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We will survive
02-24-2003, 08:02 AM
Dear forum visitors!
It's not a big secret that it is impossible not to starve to death if you live just on your Uzbek salary or pension. I would like to start this thread as a place where everyone can offer their suvival tips. This will be the Solution part in Uzbekistan: Problems and Solutions forum. Please tell us what things you do that help you survive on your salary.

Here is my tip: make pasta (spagetti, macaroni) or Ramen noodles a big part of your rations. First, it's relatively inexpensive (compared to vegetables, fruit, and meat). Second, it can keep a long time without spoiling. And third, it can make you feel full pretty fast. The drawback to this method is that lack of vitamins and minerals will make itself known after a while. And pasta can make you fat. But it is far outweighed by its role in survival.

Abc
02-24-2003, 09:33 AM
How do you expect a poor person to have an access to Internet, if he/she can;t buy food, why should he/she spend money on Internet :?:
Very Interesting topic though..

02-24-2003, 09:43 AM
You're right, I don't expect any poor people to access this. But maybe, if we gather our own survival tips from before we became rich ;) , and distribute them to real poor people in a print format (samizdat), they might be able to save some money and get some food or clothes or medicines and such.

Here is my second tip: if you live in a rural area and your gas and electricity was cut off, burning horse manure or cow dung is an excellent source of heat. It's a bit stinky, but definitely a money-saver.

We will survive
02-24-2003, 09:48 AM
Sorry, it was me above as "Guest"

02-24-2003, 10:57 AM
Here is another tip. Instead of paying the ad valorem and profit taxes, pay a bribe to the tax inspector and hide your cash in a froeign bank. That would save you some money.

Instead of having fun in choyhona drinking third rated beer and low quality food make yourself good portion o f baked potatoes.

We will survive
02-24-2003, 11:03 AM
Good going! Keep 'em coming.

Mr Potatokiller
02-24-2003, 11:11 AM
Tip 4: Instead of paying the full fee for your electricity, pay 30% of the fee to the electrician so that he changes the numbers on 'Current Meter' back to where it was. But make sure the changed digits are realistic.

02-24-2003, 11:35 AM
Here is a tip from my actual experience. A fireman once came to our mahallya, to check that everyone was compliant with the fire code. Of course, he found a few violations in every house, including ours, and was going to write me a fine. I was alone at that time - parents and brother were at work. A fireman said, OK I won't write you a fine if you give me one kiss. I said, OK, but no tongue. And I saved my family 15,000 sum (in 1996, it was decent money). Warning: this only works if you are a girl, and an attractive one at that. :D :D :D
Sad, sad, sad

MegaZ
02-24-2003, 03:56 PM
Guest - girl , very sad indeed!

Here are some tips from my hard times:
Don't go shopping to expensive bazaars such as "Alayskiy". It's generally cheaper in "Farhadskiy" or "Parkentskiy". If you live in Chilanzar, go to the new "Optoviy" bazar located close to "Sport Tovari". You'll find most of the stuff cheaper there (especially everyday items such as toothpaste, shampoo, etc).

If you don't have enough money to buy meat, buy potatoes and cabbage. I used to cook potatoes, cabbage and carrots in kazan - I would put cabbage and carrots underneath first, so that they would burn a little bit. That burned stuff will be hard to chew and sometimes even taste like real meat. Potatoes are expensive, but you can get them for cheap after 6-7 pm, when bazaars start closing. In Uzbek, it is called "Kechki Bozor". Just approach the seller and ask for a low price, saying "Keling endi, kechki bozor ku!". At least that worked for me a lot.

But I did not do much potato shopping in Tashkent, since my parents would send me potatoes through friends and relatives from Ferghana. For vegetables and fruits, bazaars in Ferghana are way cheaper compared to Tashkent.

If you are completely out of money and can't buy food, go to any bazaar and eat one-two "tryouts" from every seller. I did that a couple of times before :-) But generally I would not advice this method, because your stomach will hurt like hell later. I guess too much of "mixed food" is no good.

Another way - weddings. Just go to any medium-size wedding as if you are an invited person or a relative. Don't go to expensive weddings in "Nur" or "Zaravshan", since most of the time there will be "watchers" and people who check invitations in front of the building.

02-24-2003, 04:06 PM
If you don't have enough money to buy meat, buy potatoes and cabbage. I used to cook potatoes, cabbage and carrots in kazan - I would put cabbage and carrots underneath first, so that they would burn a little bit. That burned stuff will be hard to chew and sometimes even taste like real meat.
Love this tip! I'll call it "Vegan Dimlama".
If you are completely out of money and can't buy food, go to any bazaar and eat one-two "tryouts" from every seller. I did that a couple of times before :-) But generally I would not advice this method, because your stomach will hurt like hell later. I guess too much of "mixed food" is no good.

Another way - weddings. Just go to any medium-size wedding as if you are an invited person or a relative. Don't go to expensive weddings in "Nur" or "Zaravshan", since most of the time there will be "watchers" and people who check invitations in front of the building.
Been there, done that. Only the "free tryouts" though. Never had enough courage to go to a random wedding. I did however go to random Kelin Hayits, pretending to be a remote relative from "oblast". I really got a kick out of them bowing 12 times, even though I was just a big fraud. I was so naughty! :oops:

We will survive
02-24-2003, 04:08 PM
Sorry, forgot to log on again

MegaZ
02-24-2003, 05:21 PM
We will survive, hehe :-) Kelin Hayits huh?

I'll write more tips later, when I have some more free time.

Kolobok
02-24-2003, 05:40 PM
Here is a tip from my actual experience. A fireman once came to our mahallya, to check that everyone was compliant with the fire code. Of course, he found a few violations in every house, including ours, and was going to write me a fine. I was alone at that time - parents and brother were at work. A fireman said, OK I won't write you a fine if you give me one kiss. I said, OK, but no tongue. And I saved my family 15,000 sum (in 1996, it was decent money). Warning: this only works if you are a girl, and an attractive one at that. :D :D :D
Sad, sad, sad
Was it just a kiss or something more..? Poor fireman...'d ask for smthing more :)
Sorry for being silly...

noodles
02-24-2003, 05:42 PM
Sorry for being silly...


LoL if you're sorry why to post?:)

02-24-2003, 05:42 PM
No, just a kiss. Not even a French kiss. I was 16 and he was a cute fireman and very generous to boot - 15,000 sums for 1 kiss in 1996.

noodles
02-24-2003, 05:46 PM
turning into hardcore....

02-24-2003, 05:48 PM
no hardcore, just survival tips for uzbeks :D

MegaZ
02-24-2003, 05:48 PM
Guys, write stuff that's post-related! Not some junk :-)

noodles
02-24-2003, 05:53 PM
agree

We will survive
02-24-2003, 05:53 PM
Well, here is another one from my collection of survival tips (by no means original, but very useful). Never throw away food if you can dry it and save for later: fruit, bread, vegetables, meat. Follow food safety techniques, and with a little effort you can save lots of money on food. Sometimes, when there was no food in the fridge, I'd have tea with dried bread and dried fruits. I never starved, even if all I had was pennies.

noodles
02-24-2003, 06:02 PM
We will survive, in order to save your valueable time don't post such fool posts.

PS: just a tip:)

Delta
02-24-2003, 06:11 PM
tips from me: the best saving is making.
1. if you have a house, repair it,
No money to repair? ..No Problem, borrow from someone who has.
Later, you can rent some rooms that you don't use.
2. offer professional cleaning/cooking/taking care of house in newspapers.
3. baby sitting
4. go to "bazar" and look around, there are always something to do... you will make some money, at least you will explorer how people making money for living.
5. cook some hanim/pirajki/blinchiki and sell it.

I don't know if those will work...since i have not been home for a while.
However, I think if the person uses his brain a bit ...he can always survive, even if he is physically disabled.

(it's interesting, i'm sitting here and writing this, but my neighbors are pissed off and discussing how their favorite team lost the basketball game. dang fat boy!)

It would be a good idea, if this topic gets big and may be helpfull to others, somebody could summarize and print an article in newspaper...since, none of the people you are talking about has an access to internet.

Mr Potatokiller
02-24-2003, 07:28 PM
Vital tip for survival:
Use expired news-papers or some other old document instead of a toilet-paper

Mr Potatokiller
02-24-2003, 07:43 PM
Tip No8:
Whenever you expect many guests, don't place fizzy drinks on the table, like Fanta or Coca Cola. Instead place ones like 'Silver Water' so that it is CO2 free. Whenever the guests finish the drinks, just refill the drink bottle with the tab-water. Nobody will see the difference, proven and safe method to save money.

We will survive
02-24-2003, 08:22 PM
Tip No8:
Whenever you expect many guests, don't place fizzy drinks on the table, like Fanta or Coca Cola. Instead place ones like 'Silver Water' so that it is CO2 free. Whenever the guests finish the drinks, just refill the drink bottle with the tab-water. Nobody will see the difference, proven and safe method to save money.
Dear Mr. Potatokiller,

Why not just serve tap water without going to the trouble of filling empty bottles? You mean, so people don't know it's tap water? :D I have a related tip. If you are serving guests hard liquor, such as vodka or cognac, serve it not in bottles but in "grafins". That way you'll be able to water it down. Not only will you save money, but also prevent your friends from driving home drunk.

MegaZ
02-24-2003, 10:05 PM
Dear Mr. Potatokiller,

Why not just serve tap water without going to the trouble of filling empty bottles? You mean, so people don't know it's tap water? I have a related tip. If you are serving guests hard liquor, such as vodka or cognac, serve it not in bottles but in "grafins". That way you'll be able to water it down. Not only will you save money, but also prevent your friends from driving home drunk.


Hahahaha! Better not serve alcohol at all :-)

Delta
02-24-2003, 11:36 PM
we gotta invite RobenHood from England :)

Delf
02-25-2003, 01:48 AM
TIP: if you work, take some food from home for lunch and save 500-1500 per day (10,000-40,000 per month for food)

TIP: bribe a university teacher to get student ID and buy student monthty ticket (saves you 5,000-10,000 per month for transportation)

TIP: (Concerning Potatokillers' Vital tip for survival) If you live in your own house (hovli), don't read newspapers, and don't have or already out of old documents, you can use "kesak" to wipe your a$$

With best wishes,

Delf

Delf
02-25-2003, 01:49 AM
TIP: if you work, take some food from home for lunch and save 500-1500 per day (10,000-40,000 per month for food)

TIP: bribe a university teacher to get student ID and buy student monthty ticket (saves you 5,000-10,000 per month for transportation)

TIP: (Concerning Potatokillers' Vital tip for survival) If you live in your own house (hovli), don't read newspapers, and don't have or already out of old documents, you can use "kesak" to wipe your a$$

With best wishes,

Delf

Delta
02-25-2003, 05:41 AM
TIP: (Concerning Potatokillers' Vital tip for survival) If you live in your own house (hovli), don't read newspapers, and don't have or already out of old documents, you can use "kesak" to wipe your a$$

if you do so.. you will have holes all over your "hovli",
just use water.

1. if you smoke quit it.
2. if you drink quit it.
3. if you have no job, get some chicks and grow a chicken :)

Gogi
02-25-2003, 05:42 AM
Fireman-jan ne bil gruzinom - eto tochno (gruzinskiy jigit kiss-om ne agranichivaetsya. No on, kane'shna, i dal bi bolshe chem 15,000 sum)

A uaavshe, we-will-survive-jan - malades, haroshiy topik atkril. Ochin pale'zniy i praktichniy. Day Allah tebe zdarovya!

De'rjites, Uzbeki! Gruzinskie bratya idut k vam na pomosh :D



Assa!

Siege
02-25-2003, 05:54 AM
Once when I was living next to Tekstil Kombinat. And there're big time unemployment, and there're not much food for humans not talking about home pets - I saw my neighbor's dog eating his own shit :shock: ! No BS DS (if you know what i mean) :D !

I thought well LIFE ALWAYS FINDS A WAY!

Dressirovshik
02-25-2003, 06:16 AM
Once when I was living next to Tekstil Kombinat. And there're big time unemployment, and there're not much food for humans not talking about home pets - I saw my neighbor's dog eating his own shit :shock: ! No BS DS (if you know what i mean) :D !

I thought well LIFE ALWAYS FINDS A WAY!
Stop barking pigodogus! :twisted:

realist'
02-25-2003, 06:30 AM
To Girl:
I think the fireman was just joking he liked you as a daughter or as a sister perhaps.
TO MEGAZ: You see brother I used to live in Chilanzar. It is very sad to hear about your efforts to survive, even parens sent potatos from Fergana. Which years that all happened?
You should meet me that time. I would not allow my zemlyak to have such a sad life.

All the best.

Delta
02-25-2003, 06:59 AM
I thought this topic is not about humiliating others, but rather ...try to find ways how to help others. :rolleyes:

We will survive
02-25-2003, 07:17 AM
Exactly! Guys, stick to the topic please. The side story with dog s**t was cute, but really, how realistic is it asa survival tip? And wiping ass with kisaks - that's unhygienic - you could get worms in your ass and die. So much for survival.

Here is another time-tested survival tip from me: if you milk or other dairy products went bad, don't throw them away. You can use them to make cheese. It might taste funky, but my mom always said it's a sin for Muslims to throw away food. I always thought, why just Muslims? But I digress.

02-25-2003, 09:28 AM
To Girl:
I think the fireman was just joking he liked you as a daughter or as a sister perhaps.
realist, the way he kissed me was not in a brotherly or fatherly way. Besides, he couldn't be older than in his late 20's, how would he feel fatherly toward a 16-year-old girl? I liked his looks, and under different circumstances the kiss might have happened anyway, but the fact that it saved me 15,000 sums, made me feel a bit dirty, and was in a way a survival tactic. Thank god only a kiss though, I wouldn't have wanted my first time to be under such circumstances.

f ®
02-25-2003, 10:07 AM
learn english or some foreign language, go for studies abroad, settle there (find a job, merry a local to get the same social rights), make money and help your relatives in UZ; when it does not work, do what you can do the best and what you can afford, say the life is beautiful, take problems as opportunities.

We will survive
02-25-2003, 11:13 AM
Great tip for those who already have some money and just want better quality of life. We are talking tips for people who are afraid to starve to death, and you are talking about foreign schools with tuition and living expenses and such. Do you know how to make money "last longer"? If so, those tips would be invaluable. Thank you.

MegaZ
02-25-2003, 11:41 AM
The side story with dog s**t was cute, but really, how realistic is it asa survival tip? And wiping ass with kisaks - that's unhygienic - you could get worms in your ass and die. So much for survival.


Hahahahahah :-) "Get worms in your ass and die"! I could not stop laughing for half an hour! LOL!

We will survive
02-25-2003, 11:51 AM
Glad that could make you smile

MegaZ
02-25-2003, 12:30 PM
We will survive :-)

One more tip - don't buy "lepeshki" and buy "hleb" isntead. It's cheaper and will make you full pretty fast.

realist':

TO MEGAZ: You see brother I used to live in Chilanzar. It is very sad to hear about your efforts to survive, even parens sent potatos from Fergana. Which years that all happened?
You should meet me that time. I would not allow my zemlyak to have such a sad life.


It is all right :-) I am even glad that it happened to me - I started to appreciate life a little more. Btw, that happened in my student years and even after I came back from the US :-) There were days when I worked in central bazaar in Ferghana as well. I remember some people were talking about me, being an Umidie and having western education and working in bazaar...but I really did not care. I earned a lot more in bazaar than at work provided by Umid and at least could feed by family.

I am not the worst case scenario, though. There are many Umidies who still work in bazaars selling ice cream or "somsa". I personally know a couple of Umid graduates who work as couriers from Tashkent "Ippodrom" to some regional bazaars.

Hong Kong
02-25-2003, 03:24 PM
In my humble opinion, can be two approaches to this problem:
1) radical;
2) opportunistic.

Examples for approach #2:
* catch fish
* eat less
* collect wild fruit

Examples of approach #1:
* mary russian (korean, kazak) girl and re-locate to russia (korea...)
* get rich
* e-e-e-e...

This is kind of sad though that we are talking about survival when
nobody is attacking or trying to occupy us

:-(

Hong Kong

02-25-2003, 03:30 PM
Hong Kong, how can you talk about such a thing while you are in Hong Kong?
hmm, very interesting story ;)

We will survive
02-25-2003, 03:33 PM
Hong Kong,
We are being attacked. Just not from the outside. ;) But, as my username says, we Uzbeks are very "zhivuchie" - we will survive in Devil's ass if that's where life finds us. :)

Mr Potatokiller
02-25-2003, 04:04 PM
we will survive in Devil's ass if that's where life finds us. :)

EEEGGHHH!!!!....

We will survive
02-25-2003, 04:06 PM
Don't take everything so literally, Mr. Potatokiller. :D

Delta
02-25-2003, 07:07 PM
well, if you are weak You won't survive!
Can't keep everyone from death. Even in nature, wolf eats a rabbit, leon eats a jiraf...so on.
that is how life is. if you have to survive, you know you survive even in a middle of desert.
~peace.

Mr Potatokiller
02-25-2003, 08:12 PM
Tip No 10)
Save money and make money
If you have quiet a lot of cash in Sums in your house and you don't need to spend most of it, then don't just keep it. Due to high inflation, your cash will lose its value very quickly, so try investing it in precious metals or buy land. This way, not only will your cash hold its value, but in case of increase in prices of metals or land, your investment will yield high positive returns.

Tip No 11) Be rational

The household equipments that consume most electricity are, iron, electric heater, and air conditioner, and refrigirator. Pay special attention to these equipments, and check that they are turned on when not needed. If you refrigirator is almost empty, then it maybe a wiser choice to turn it off, unless you have meat there.

Tip No 12) Cash waiting for you outside

If you are unemployed, but you have a car, then don't just waste your time sleeping, take your car outside and you are bound to meet few clients. This means extra 500-2000 sum.

Tip No 13) Saving money on the road
If you are stopped by police for breaking the law, don't just say "I am sorry, I did not notice' Be emotional, and tell him that your sister has just passed away while giving birth. This worked in 100% 6/6 cases

Mr Potatokiller
02-25-2003, 08:24 PM
small correction
[Tip No 11) Be rational

The household equipments that consume most electricity are, iron, electric heater, and air conditioner, and refrigirator. Pay special attention to these equipments, and check that they are turned off when not needed. If your refrigirator is almost empty, then it maybe a wiser choice to turn it off, unless you have a meat there.

We will survive
02-25-2003, 08:47 PM
Thanks for the tips Mr. Potatokiller. Here is a related tip:
- in the winter (and summer too) thoroughly check insulation in your house. That way you won't waste electricity heating or cooling your home. You can use any materials you have handy to insulate: cotton, cellophane, old newspapers. Seal off your house to cold or heat and enjoy the savings.

Here is one for women: don't use expensive foreign cosmetics. You can get the same result with natural herbs, fruit, and vegetables. For example, instead of firming cream for wrinkles, rub your face with slices of cucumber (it will also lighten your skin). Use herbs such as "petrushka" - they are great for the skin. Another plus is you can eliminte food waste this way. Say, you are making salad and you peeled some cucumbers. Then rub your face with the inside of the peel before discarding it. If you do need cosmetics, then use Uzbek or Russian ones. They are OK, and much cheaper than some Lancoms and Estee Lauders.

B94
02-26-2003, 03:43 AM
Don't chit and wash your face at home. Go and do it at your place of employment. This way you will save on paper and soap.

02-26-2003, 03:44 AM
Don't smoke don't drink alcohol and don't waste cash on bitches.

Doctor Aybolit
02-26-2003, 04:32 AM
Ok. Here we go,
The most impotant tip from doctors;
Don't eat junk food and then become ill,
Cause if you do so, u will get sick and the results could be more harmful and you could end up in the hospital under the expensive treatments.
So it is better to consume and healthy food.

never
02-26-2003, 04:35 AM
Toshkentda obshakda yashaganimizda havodan boshqa hamma narsani ekonom qilardik... WE HAD NO CHANCE BUT TO SURVIVE :)

1. Sandvich of my personal invention :)
ikki bolak buhanka noniga tomat surib orasiga piyoz qoyib yer edik (osha davrda piyoz bilan tomat bozorda eng arzoni edi)

2. Yoki tomatni yog'da ozgina qizdirib piyoz qoshib qovursa yomon ovqat bolmaydi (tez va toyimli)

3. Kaloriyasi kotta (ya'ni uzoq vaqt odamni toq saqlaydigan) ovqatlarimiz: moshkichiri hamda makaronni har hil turlari (manga eng yoqqani qovurmasi). Qovurma makarron yoki SPAGETTI: makaronni qaynab turgan suvda pishirib so'ng sovutib piyoz va tomat bilan qovurilsa AJOYIB ovqat boladi (ustiga tuhum qovurib qoyinglade endi qizg'onmeng!) :)

4. baqlajonnni po'stini archmasdan ovqatga solardik rangi qoraligi uchun go'shtga ohshab ketardi :)

5. kosmetika masalasida: yog'li yuzni quritish uchun kechasi lemon surtib uhlansa ertalabgacha yuz emas chehra boladi. Huddi shunday quruq yuzga suzma surtiladi faqat ozroq muddatga

WE WILL SURVIVE!

katie
02-26-2003, 06:06 AM
Tip #...
I think I've lost the track of all tips, anyway my tested and tried tip is :
if you do have little money or enough please try to plan your spending. of course stick to your plan all the time. if you arrange your income expenditure according to importance then you wouldn't end up spending on something which has less need in everyday life. e.g make up or new dress;the same applies to food, not like one day 'palov' and next day tea & bread.
lastly, esp for guys don't show off to your girlgriend that you're some sort of rich or with lots of money (in fact you or your family having hard time) instead of going to cinema or taking her to bazar to buy some stuff just give flowers they grow in your garden all yr round.

Verniy
02-26-2003, 06:46 AM
Verno

02-26-2003, 06:49 AM
Nu mlin rabyata, vas pochitaesh kolenki podgibayutsya :) Mne mlin skoro domoy, teper' dogonayu k chemu mne pridiotsya privikat' :shock:
Eh, proshay straussina, olechina, delikatessi, i kucha sladostey po lyubomu povodu. :(

Verniy
02-26-2003, 07:02 AM
Guest,
Eto oni pishit svoi vospominaniya kogda bili studentami.
Nadeyus chto ti budesh rabotat. Tak cho ne perejivay, s golodu ne pomryosh bro.
Vot tolko polnotsennuyu pishu konechno ne obeshayu.
Pease

We will survive
02-26-2003, 07:25 AM
Great tips everybody. This collection of tips is a bit different. It's what you should NEVER try to save money on, because it will turn out more expensive in the end:

- your health: if you are sick and need medicine, I don't care if you don't have the money. Borrow from friends or sell something, but do not let a disease go untreated. It may become chronic, and in the end you'll have to buy even more expensive drugs. Same goes for home stay. If you can't go to work because of sickness, don't, even if you lose a day's pay. Otherwise, you might have to stay home longer or even go to a hospital in the end.

- contraception. What is a few sums spent on condoms or birth control pills if you don't have to worry about unplanned pregnancy? Year, temperature method and counting days is cheaper, but much less effective.

- children. If your kid has been begging you for months for a toy or a book, for god's sake, get it! Even if you eat "suhari" for the next few days, children need to develop: not only physically, but also mentally and emotionally.

- education. Yes, you may live like you died and went to hell for the next 4-5 years, but higher education will allow you to find a higher paying job and better support yourself and your family. One warning: I consider bribes to teachers a waste of money, not an education expense. I spent 2 years in one of the most notoriously corrupt universities in Tashkent, and haven't given a single bribe. The only exception were flowers for women professors for 8th of March. And I had high grades that were considered by everyone "honest grades". If you have to retake an exam, or write an extra essay to raise your grade, do it. Not only will you save $5-50 per teacher, but will also become sure in your knowledge.

Keep those tips coming, if we get enough of good ones, maybe we could "samizdat" them and distribute to those who need them. They say "If you give a man fish, you'll feed him one day; teach him how to fish and you'll feed him all life". I want to do the second part for our fellow Uzbeks.

Mr Potatokiller
02-26-2003, 09:37 AM
temperature method .

Just out of curiosity, how does the temperature method work? That must be something new, never heard of it

We will survive
02-26-2003, 11:42 AM
Mr. Potatokiller, getting off topic, eh? OK, the temperature method is based on the fact that most women experience slight increase in body temperature shortly before ovulation. So you avoid relations during ovulation to prevent a woman's egg from being fertilized. But it doesn't take into an account things like maybe this month a woman will have 2 eggs (like when both ovaries release them, not just one), or that sperm can stay alive for up to 3 days. On the other hand, condoms have effectiveness rate of like 95%, and pills are 97%. So you get what you pay for. ;)

02-26-2003, 11:47 AM
Toshkentda obshakda yashaganimizda havodan boshqa hamma narsani ekonom qilardik... WE HAD NO CHANCE BUT TO SURVIVE :)

1. Sandvich of my personal invention :)
ikki bolak buhanka noniga tomat surib orasiga piyoz qoyib yer edik (osha davrda piyoz bilan tomat bozorda eng arzoni edi)

2. Yoki tomatni yog'da ozgina qizdirib piyoz qoshib qovursa yomon ovqat bolmaydi (tez va toyimli)

3. Kaloriyasi kotta (ya'ni uzoq vaqt odamni toq saqlaydigan) ovqatlarimiz: moshkichiri hamda makaronni har hil turlari (manga eng yoqqani qovurmasi). Qovurma makarron yoki SPAGETTI: makaronni qaynab turgan suvda pishirib so'ng sovutib piyoz va tomat bilan qovurilsa AJOYIB ovqat boladi (ustiga tuhum qovurib qoyinglade endi qizg'onmeng!) :)

4. baqlajonnni po'stini archmasdan ovqatga solardik rangi qoraligi uchun go'shtga ohshab ketardi :)

5. kosmetika masalasida: yog'li yuzni quritish uchun kechasi lemon surtib uhlansa ertalabgacha yuz emas chehra boladi. Huddi shunday quruq yuzga suzma surtiladi faqat ozroq muddatga

WE WILL SURVIVE!
Zo'r oshpoz e'kansiz-u, never-aka.

02-26-2003, 11:54 AM
- contraception. What is a few sums spent on condoms or birth control pills if you don't have to worry about unplanned pregnancy?

don't you think you're getting away from survival tips, bcause it's more like 'western' survival of social life. ordinary uzbek country boy and girl never thought about condoms and pills even they may haven't seen in it their lives.

We will survive
02-26-2003, 11:59 AM
and that's why they have 5-10 kids they can't feed. :(
I disagree with you. Reporductive planning is very important for survival. When you don't have enough money to support yourself, how would you like to support your unexpectedly pregnant wife and then an unexpected child. This is especially important for those living in poverty.

Mr Potatokiller
02-26-2003, 12:20 PM
Tip No 13:

Instead of going to a doctor and getting prescribed expensive medicine, visit traditional doctors (Taibs). They are cheap and 10x more effective. Although, I can personally afford visiting the most expensive doctors in Uzb, I have long discovered the true effectiveness of the traditional herbs prescribed by 'Taibs'. But you have to first find experienced and talented Taib.
The best Taib I know is in Tashkent, but he regularly visits other regions of Uzb and he also has an office in New York, where he treats Americans!

katie
02-26-2003, 12:21 PM
ok try to teach those people who has little money but living govt benefits given to their children

Gogi
02-26-2003, 01:16 PM
Vah-vah, kak harasho kipit etot forum. Uoshem, djigiti', padelyus s vami opitom svoey mamochki. Ana minya vsegda uchila: "Gogi-jan, nikogda ne vibrasivay pishu, patamushta iz neyo mojna zdelat drugoy pisha!" I eto istinnaya pravda, day Bog maey mamochke zdarovya i dolgih let jizni. Esli tri dnya nazad eli plov, a teper on nemnojka vanyuchiy plov, to iz neyo mojno zdelat mastava. A mastava cherez tri dnya stanet vanyuchiy mastava, to mojna dabavit nemnojka makaron - vot tebe aaaatlichniy makaron-sho'rva. Vah-vah, palchiki ablijesh. Ya pashyol ujinat.

Assa!

We will survive
02-26-2003, 01:32 PM
Vah-vah, kak harasho kipit etot forum. Uoshem, djigiti', padelyus s vami opitom svoey mamochki. Ana minya vsegda uchila: "Gogi-jan, nikogda ne vibrasivay pishu, patamushta iz neyo mojna zdelat drugoy pisha!" I eto istinnaya pravda, day Bog maey mamochke zdarovya i dolgih let jizni. Esli tri dnya nazad eli plov, a teper on nemnojka vanyuchiy plov, to iz neyo mojno zdelat mastava. A mastava cherez tri dnya stanet vanyuchiy mastava, to mojna dabavit nemnojka makaron - vot tebe aaaatlichniy makaron-sho'rva. Vah-vah, palchiki ablijesh. Ya pashyol ujinat.

Assa!
Eto v kakom zhe gruzinskom dome gotovili plov, mastavu, i makaron-shurva? :D :D

Gogi
02-26-2003, 02:54 PM
Eto v kakom zhe gruzinskom dome gotovili plov, mastavu, i makaron-shurva? :D :D

Ne athadi' at temi', we-will-survive-jan. Vay kak neharasho...

We will survive
02-26-2003, 09:03 PM
Tip #...
В свободное время, займитесь полезным делом: вязание или шитьё для женщин, ремонтирование для мужчин. Таким образом, не нужно будет покупать одежду или вызывать всяких сантехников, монтёров, и слесарей. А вязанные свитера можно дарить друзьям на праздники - и уникально, и денег много не надо тратить (только на шерсть и материалы). Говорят это ещё для нервов полезно. А можно даже шерсть не покупать. Если у вас или соседей есть бараны, то можно их стричь и прясть всё это в шерсть. Красить не обязательно - будет красивый свитер в серых тонах.

Eternity
02-27-2003, 09:39 AM
Znaete, chitaya eto vse, ya prosto stanovlus irritated. Eta realnost, kotoryu nado prinyt. Nu chto Ya mogu posovetovat, slava bogu Y menya v jizni practicheski nebilo takih sityaciy.
Naschet Alayskogo bazara. Schitau nespravedlivim mnenie chto eto samiy dorogoy bazar. Na Alayskom vse very differentiated and very often you can find a lot of thing which are more expensive in other bazars, just have patience and keep searching.
Udachi vsem u kogo v karmane ne gusto, vam obyzatelno povezet, eto jizn segodnya ti nikto, no mojet zavtra prosneshsya bogachem, Glavnoe nado v eto verit.
Poka

02-28-2003, 04:29 AM
Y podderjivayu Eternity v tom chto segodnya tebe trudno, zavtra mojesh stanesh bogachom.
No problema v tom chto na tvoyom meste okajetsya kto nibud dryugoy v takom polojenii.
Eto ploho.
Udachi vsem.

_Charosoy_
03-01-2003, 05:08 AM
Da...interesniyi soveti.. Spominayesh studencheskiyi godi, i hochetsya smeyatsya i plakat. U meny bila podrujka s Andijona, ona bila prosto umnitsa... Vsegda umela delat chto to neobichnoye.. Yo'qdan bor qilardi. Hochu podelitsya odnim eyo retseptom.
Lyubitelyam myasa. Myaso ne vsegda bivayet vozmojnosti kupit. Letom ochen devshevo bivayut bakladjani, berete 4-5 baklajanom s korochkoy ego rezayte na melkiyi kusochki, luchshe cherez myasorubku, tuda nemnogo muki i dva yaytsa i chto bi poluchilas kak gustaya smetana potom, berete kak aladi jarite. Posle etogo vi daje ne budete znat chto eto kakiye to baklajani. Vkus pohoj na myasa.. Prosto i vkusno..
Esli u vas horosho rabotayut mozgi, i u vas krasiviy pocherk,ili u vas est dopusk k kopyuteru napishite drugim te kto ne pishut na lektsiyah konspekti. ili napishite referati.. Toje neplohiyi dengi..

Trudnosti vsegda zakalyayut nas
:)

We will survive
03-03-2003, 02:01 PM
No activity on this topic for the past couple of days, eh? OK, here is my tip. When they turn off electricity (often) and you have to burn candles, don't throw away burnt out candles. Gather the paraffine and make a new wick using a thread greased in some oil. Melt the paraffine and form it around the new wick like a regular candle - voila!

Another tip - grow fruit trees. They won't take too mcuh of your time and effort, but you'll have seasonal fruit that you can conserve for the winter. My personal favorites, cherries and apples, are very easy to take care of and make for greatest jams.

Mr Potatokiller
03-03-2003, 02:05 PM
Think about the consequences of your actions with your brain, not with your tummy. Meaning, don't attack trucks carrying flour, for you will get the poor driver sucked, and you too will be jailed.

trigger-happy
03-03-2003, 02:09 PM
Mr Potatokiller,
Oh my god, did that really happen?