I AM LEAVING MYSELF,NO NEED TO BAN ME!! TUPURDIM HAMMASIGA!

[MUHLIS]

SALOMLAR,
BALKI SHU POSTIM OHIRGISI BOLAR. MAN USHBU FORUMDAN OZ IHTIYORIM BILAN KETISHGA KAROR KILDIM. OYLAAAB KARASAM BEKORGA OZ KIMMATLI VAKTIMNI UVOL KILAYOTGAN EKANMAN. BUNDAN TASHKARI, BU YER UMUMAN MEN OYLAGAN YERGA OHSHAMADI HECH....AKLLI KISHILAR HADDAN TASHKARI KOP EKAN BU YERDA, AHMOKLIGIMNI YUZIMGA SOLAVERIB JONGA TEGIB KETISHDI. YOKI SIEGEGA OHSHAGAN "MADANIYATLI" (TOGRISI SOTKIN) KISHILAR BOLSIN BU FORUMDA YOKI MENGA OHSHAGAN "HARIPLAR"........BUNI KARANGKI KAMBAGALNI TUYANI USTIDA HAM IT KOPADI DEGANLARIDAY HAMMA TAYOK MANI BOSHIMDA SINMOKDA, NIMA KERAGI BOR MANGA BU MASHMASHALARNI......BU YERGA GAPNI OCHIGI, VATANIMNI ONA TILIMNI, MILLATIMNI SOGINGANIMDAN, BIROR BIR MILLATDOSHIM BILAN YURAKDAN SUHBAT KURISH, MILLATIMIZ KELAJAGI HAKIDAGI OY-FIKRLAR BILAN ORTOKLASHISH NIYATIDA KIRAR EDIM...AMMO TAASSUFLAR BOLSINKIM, HOIRGI PAYTLARDA BU YERGA KIRIB FAKAT ASABIM BUZILADIGAN BOLIB KOLDI......NAZARIMDA BU YERDA BIZI MILLATDA KASDI BOR GALAMIS KIMSALARNING UYASIGA AYLANIB BORMOKDA...SHUNDAY EKAN, MEN TARK ETAMAN BU YERNI....SHU BILAN ULAR BAHTIYOR BOLSA, MAYLI BOLA KOLSIN. SHU FORUMSIZ HAM KUNIMIZ OTAR.....
MENI BIR NARSA SEVINTIRADIKI, USHBU KISKA MUDDAT ICHIDA OZLARINI KORMASAM DA LEKIN BA'ZI BIR JUDA HAM AJYOIB INSONLARNI HAM UCHRATDIM....VA BUNDAN JUDA HAM HURSANDMAN.
MEN BILAN SUHBAT (DOSTONA VA HOLISONA) KURIB TURMOKCHI BOLGAN KISHILAR UCHUN:
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YOZING ALBATTA JAVOB YOZAMAN, UMID KILAMANKI, E-MAIL BILAN HAM YAHSHI SUHBATLAR KURSA BOLADI.
BARCHANGIZGA HURMAT VA EHTIROM ILA,
MUHLIS!

[MegaZ]

MUHLIS, no need to get so emotional.

All I asked you to do was not to cuss other members of the forum. Again, rules are rules.

[MUHLIS is wrong again]

Don't let the door hit you in the a$$. I for one will enjoy this forum that much more without you in it.

[O'siroq]

Muhlis tuyog'ingni shiqillat!

[Tappi]

ish qilib ketganing ros bo'lsin!

[Alouddin]

nima, to'g'ri gaplar yoqmadimi?!?!? :evil: ahir haqiqatdan har xil rasvochiliklar boshlanib ketdi-ku o'zbek halqiga qarshi? Muxlis noto'g'ri gapirdimi? Nahotki bu yerga kirgan hamma odam o'z "haryp"ligini tan olsa? Nahot bunga qarshi chiqqan Muxlis 'yomon otliq' hisoblasansa?..

rasvoku ishlar bu forumda :|

Constant Observer

[Soldier]

Muhlis don't leave the forum because of this some asshole!
siege is just a piece of shite, who will never do something for his country except criticizing.
I wish we had many persons like u in Uzbekistan who would do everything for the benefit of Uzbekistan and its citizens.

[Delta]

tomila ketibdi hammelani.. ili detsadga kep qoldimi!?

[Sher]

Xurmatli forum ishtirokchilari!

Vaqtim chegaralangani tufayli bu erdagi ko`p mash-mashalardan yaxshi xabarim bo`lmasada Muhlis va boshqa bu kabi tushkunlikka tushganlarga ijozatingiz bilan bir og`iz taklifim bor edi.

Forum bu fikr almashuvi va baxslashuvdan iboratdir. Shunday ekan har qanday fikrga qarshi yana boshqa bir fikr bilan javob qaytarish lozim, so`kinib haqorat so`zlar ishlatmasdan.

O`zbekiston Respublikasi Presidenti aytganlaridek "G`oyaga qarshi g`oya bilan kurashish kerak". Shunday ekan, bu kabi forumni "tantanali ravishda" tark etish noto`g`ri ish bo`lsa kerak deb o`ylayman.

Ayniqsa demokratik huquqiy fuqarlik jamiyat qurish maqsadida bo`lgan insonlar aslo baxslashishdan bo`yin tovlab kuch ishlatishga (ya`ni bu erda so`kinishga)o`tishlari kerak emas!!!

O`z g`oyasini to`g`ri deb bilgan odam uni har qanday boshqa g`oyadagi odam bilan baxslasha oladi!

Yuqoridagilarni hech bir forum ishtirokchisini siyosiy nuqtai nazarini qo`llamasdan yozganimni e'tiborga olib xolisona qabul qilasiz degan umiddaman.

Xurmat ila,
Sher

[MegaZ]

Sher, juda ham chiroyli gap gapirdingiz, rahmat. I totally agree with you.

[Siege]

Observer,
nima, to'g'ri gaplar yoqmadimi?!?!? ahir haqiqatdan har xil rasvochiliklar boshlanib ketdi-ku o'zbek halqiga qarshi? Muxlis noto'g'ri gapirdimi? Nahotki bu yerga kirgan hamma odam o'z "haryp"ligini tan olsa? Nahot bunga qarshi chiqqan Muxlis 'yomon otliq' hisoblasansa?..

rasvoku ishlar bu forumda

Constant Observer


I wish we had many persons like u in Uzbekistan who would do everything for the benefit of Uzbekistan and its citizens.


Observer, serious!

You're young Uzbek not Uzbek citizen and it seems to you that whatever Muhlis says about supporting his nationalistic ideas is right.
But he's wrong from the start, no matter what language I write I try to keep myself in civilized borders!

Second in your country there's much less Russian speaking people then Uzbekistan but Russian is the second official language and official name of your country is Kirgizia (as in russian), and not Kirgizstan, because it's as rightly understood by your government Russian language means Progress in Central Asia (like it or not dear friends).

Plus if Muhlis or you would try to find a decent job in Tashkent (not mardicar bazaar one), you would not find one because Muhlis’s and your russian proficiency is very low, but it's a must in any former USSR countries!

There were a wave of people like Muhlis in late 80s and begining of 90s whose only asset was his Uzbek language, they proved to be lazy and ignorant and been kicked out off jobs by other Uzbeks.

I think most of Muhlis likes are now in Russia, working for food because they do not have to use any language (Uzbek or Russian).

There're much more subjects why people prefer Russian language (employees, schools, works) but it's theme of another topic.

Look at Muhamad Solih, he used to be very nationalistic, but everything I read now in e-mass media he wrote I read in russian. But I think it’s also theme of another topic.

LOOK I DO NOT SAY WE ALL SHALL BE SPEAKING RUSSIAN ONLY, BUT WHY I SHALL NOT USE THIS ONE OF RICHEST AND WIDELY USED LANGUAGES ON THIS SMALL PLANET IF I KNOW THIS LANGUAGE EXCELLENT!

[MUHLIS]

Observer,
nima, to'g'ri gaplar yoqmadimi?!?!? ahir haqiqatdan har xil rasvochiliklar boshlanib ketdi-ku o'zbek halqiga qarshi? Muxlis noto'g'ri gapirdimi? Nahotki bu yerga kirgan hamma odam o'z "haryp"ligini tan olsa? Nahot bunga qarshi chiqqan Muxlis 'yomon otliq' hisoblasansa?..

rasvoku ishlar bu forumda

Constant Observer


I wish we had many persons like u in Uzbekistan who would do everything for the benefit of Uzbekistan and its citizens.


Observer, serious!

You're young Uzbek not Uzbek citizen and it seems to you that whatever Muhlis says about supporting his nationalistic ideas is right.
But he's wrong from the start, no matter what language I write I try to keep myself in civilized borders!

Second in your country there's much less Russian speaking people then Uzbekistan but Russian is the second official language and official name of your country is Kirgizia (as in russian), and not Kirgizstan, because it's as rightly understood by your government Russian language means Progress in Central Asia (like it or not dear friends).

Plus if Muhlis or you would try to find a decent job in Tashkent (not mardicar bazaar one), you would not find one because Muhlis’s and your russian proficiency is very low, but it's a must in any former USSR countries!

There were a wave of people like Muhlis in late 80s and begining of 90s whose only asset was his Uzbek language, they proved to be lazy and ignorant and been kicked out off jobs by other Uzbeks.

I think most of Muhlis likes are now in Russia, working for food because they do not have to use any language (Uzbek or Russian).

There're much more subjects why people prefer Russian language (employees, schools, works) but it's theme of another topic.

Look at Muhamad Solih, he used to be very nationalistic, but everything I read now in e-mass media he wrote I read in russian. But I think it’s also theme of another topic.

LOOK I DO NOT SAY WE ALL SHALL BE SPEAKING RUSSIAN ONLY, BUT WHY I SHALL NOT USE THIS ONE OF RICHEST AND WIDELY USED LANGUAGES ON THIS SMALL PLANET IF I KNOW THIS LANGUAGE EXCELLENT!
**** you!!! **** YOU!!!
I WILL GET YOU SOME DAY!!! YOU WILL SEE,I WILL!
NOW, I AM LEAVING THIS FORUM FOR YOU MOTHER****ING PIG!!!
OUR DAYS WILL COME!!! AND WE WILL SPEAK PROUDLY UZBEK ANYWHERE IN UZBEKISTAN!!!
**** YOU AGAIN!!!
Megz and Sher, Observer and others,
Thank you for your ideas and opinions! I really appreciate tham.
Keling Uzbekcha yozay: Lekin hamma joyning ham oz toshu tarozusi bolishi lozim! Millat ham bir oilaga ohshagan narsa! Agar shu forumni bir oila a'zolari toplanadigan joy deb hisoblasak, Siege, oz uyimizga kirib bizni hakoratlayotgan bolib chikadi!!! Sher birodar, sizni tushunaman, lekin bu mahluk yozayotgan narsalar Goya emas HAKORAT!! HAKORATGA HARKORAT BILAN JAVOB BERISH KERAK!
Shu mani ohirgi kirishim bu forumga, sigega ohshaganlarga koldirdim bu forumni! U oylaydiki, fakat Toshkentda bir hovuch tekinhur, alkash uruslar yigilib olib halkimizning rizkini kiyib otirgani uchun Uzbekistonda ularning aytgani degani degan deb.....agar men shu tongizlar bosh egadigan bolsam (u aytgandek), ISHLAMAYMAN TOSHKENTSDA!
Men bir kishlaki bolaman, va bilaman Toshekntni ozi bu Uzbekiston degani emas! Uzeklar Fargonada, Horazmda, Buhoroda Surhandaryoda......chikib koring ularni!!! Bir hovuch tongizlar bu Uzbekiston degani emas!!! Agar osha, kishlaglarda jon-olib jon berib tirikchiligini otkazayotgan kishlaki Uzbeklarda ham Internet bolganda edi.......Hozir men emas Siege bu forumni tark etayotgan bolardi.....Bu forum juda ham nisbiy narsa vokelikdan yirokda. Hozir siegega ohshagan kimsalar shu nisbiy kurash maydonida oz fikrlaricha "ustun" kelmokdalar.....Ammo vokelikda esa....Men anik bilaman vokelikda Men hakman!!! Agar Siege shu gaplarini hakikiy hayotda, hakikiy Uzbekni oldida aytsa edi, kozlarini oyib olar edi har bir "Men Uzbekman" degan kishi!!! Uning hozirgi hatti harakatlari esa, eshikni orkasiga otib olib akkillayotgan laychaga ohshaydi!!! "It hurar, karvon yurar" koramiz...
Siegeni kolidan osha manfur .ru siytlaridan biz hakimizdagi iflos "makolalar"ni kochirib bu yerda koyishdan boshka ish kelmaydi!
Kiskasi ketmasam bolmaydi, bu yerda juda radikallashib ketyapman.....Ularning bu yerdagi "superior"ligi NISBIY, SAROB!!!
mani emailim: tarakkiyot@yahoo.com

MUHLIS,

Don't get so upset. I will tell you a little story. When I was little and went to school, there were a few times my mother yelled at me and called me stupid. Now I wasn't stupid, but as any kid I got a few bad grades. I could have gotten insulted and talk back to my mom saying "You yourself are stupid". Instead, I hit the books. Hit them so hard, that anywhere I went, I was in the top 5% as far as grades and studying. I now earn more than my mom and dad combined. It wouldn't have happened if my mom didn't give me that push, undeservedly calling me a bad name. Why the story, you ask? I just think it could guide you in your exchange with Siege.

Siege has offended many people on the forum by using the word "harip", but he didn't do it with the exclusive purpose to insult. He just wanted to start with smart uzbek people, and give them the push to change their lives and to pull themselves and other people out from the dirt we are all in. As a matter of fact, he has mentioned the loss of national identity as one of the biggest reasons for "slave mentality". Perhaps, you could use the national identity you have (quite a lot, I hear), and contribute to the topic with concrete suggestions on how to regain our "o'zbekchilik". Instead of pouring insults on Siege and anyone else who is handy at the time.

P.S. If you decide to leave the forum for good, that's OK. You haven't been contributing lately anyway, except teaching me a few new curse words. It's a pity though, cause I know you could have provided a good counterpoint to Siege, had you ever learnt to express yourself in a manner that didn't make me want to vomit. In either case, good luck to you.

[Prianik]

f*ck you!!! f*ck YOU!!!
I WILL GET YOU SOME DAY!!! YOU WILL SEE,I WILL!
NOW, I AM LEAVING THIS FORUM FOR YOU MOTHER****ING PIG!!!
....
tekinhur, alkash uruslar
...


Muhlisbek, yarashmas ekan sizga bunaka gapla, hakoratla. Siz nima uchun ketayapsuz? shu nima birta ikta "warning" olghaniz uchunmi? shu narsa sizga tegib ketdimi? nahotki shu siz uchun zarur bulsa? holbuki bunga uziz sababchisiz. man bilasizmi sizda kimni kurayapman? uzini goyasini yoki fikrini TUGRI bildira olmaydigan, va kerak bulsa usha fikri uchun kurashadigan odamga uhshamaysiz. gap kolmagandan keyin, odam kuch ishlatadi. hosh usha Siegni bir kun ham topdingiz deyaylik (albatta bu juda kulgili gap), nima kilasiz? bir musht urasiz, keyinchi? nima u sizga ikki bukilib tazim kiladimi? hudo kursatmasin sizga ushagan odam davlat boshiga kelsa nima buladi bilasizmi? hayotda odam bir biriga kulok sola bilishi kerak, kompromisga keta bilishi kerak, va eng asosiysi UZIDA BULGAN kamchiliklani tan ola bilishi kerak.


...
kozlarini oyib olar edi har bir "Men Uzbekman"
...


mana shunaka "Uzbekla" uchun bizani davlatimiz orkada kolib ketmokda. manimcha siz, "hey urus alkash, ket rossiyanga, idi damoy" degan odamladan bulsayiz kerak ha, nima uzbeklani orasida ichadigani yukmi? koying bunaka gaplani. siz shu harakteriz bilan man uzokka, katta natijalarga erisha olmaysiz. usha urus alkashlani gapiga amerika va evropa karab turishadi, usha urus alkshalani davlatida necha ming uzbek ishlaga boradi, usha urus alkshalani moshinasini minib yuramiz... kalangiz ishlasaydi sizni ula bilan dust bulishga intilardiz... kuying uzi tushunmadim sizga va sizga uhshagan "uzbeklaga".

[kkk]

hehe
Official name of Kyrgyzstan is "Kyrgyz republic" ili je "Kirgizskaya respublika" k vashemu svedeniyu...
Siege,don't even try to reply me:)

[Alouddin]

[quote="MUHLIS"]

assalamu alaykum

avvalo, Muxlisbek, bu forumda nafaqat bu seksiya, balki boshqalari ham bor. Siz bilan bir muncha vaqtdan beri O'zbekiston, Qirg'iziston va qolaversa yak Turkiston haqida fikrlar almashib do'st bo'lib qoldik. Mana sizga meni do'stona maslahatim: ketishni umuman hojati yo'q!.. Men Siegeni yomon demoqchimasman, ki uni umuman bilmayman, lekin butun boshli o'zbek halqini "harip"ga chiqargani menga ham yoqmadi, albatta. Lekin bitta bu postni deb butun boshli forumni tark etish, uzr do'stim, ozgina aqlsizlik. Chunki men bilgan O'zbekiston forumlaridan eng yaxshisi (bu hech kimga kompliment emas, balki oddiy observation) shu forum.

shuning uchun, ketib, Muxlisbek, siz hech kimga qayg'u olib kelmaysiz. Hech kim hafa bo'lmaydi. Yaxshisi qoling va ota-bobolarimiz aytganlariday, "ohirgi tomchi qongacha..." a? nima dediz? aminmanki, bu narsani bir boshdan fikrlab chiqib, ketishdan qolish afzalroq-foydaliroq ekanini tushunasiz. Sizning hayar-ma'zur postingizni esa (ayni shu postga hozir javob yozyapmanku, ana o'shani) MegaX'ga aytib o'chirib tashlaymiz ;)

Hurmat bilan,

O'shlik kuzatuvchi yigit Elmurod

[XSpider]

Muhlishbek hafa bulmen , hozirda uchrab turadi uz yurtini uz milatini sotgan , kerek bulasa ota pushtini sotatigan insonlar shu forumda bor ular hartarafizda , harbir qadamizda oyg tagidan chiqadi shunda ezib tashlagiz keladi , lekin shu forumda odam jinde uzini tegishkere ekan qonun qoydaga roya qilgan holda albata , sizga uhshagan insonlar bor edi , albata haliham bor ular lekin juda kamnamo bulib qatnashadilar , Muhlisbek man ismizi bilmiman lekin albata tanishish uchun fursat buladi deb uyleman , siz bir nimani bilinki " Inson hamisha ezgulikga intilishi lozim ekan aks holda u hur buladi . "
bilinki biz buyuk milat vakilimiz , tarihda ota bobolarimiz uchmas iz qoldilishgan .......
omad
me
prince_uk .
:P

When I said that "war stories" movie was lame because every Uzbek there had a doppi it was Muhlis who got all nervos and start telling me what to do. I think u r chovinist and I don't like chovinists.

[joe parker]

When I said that "war stories" movie was lame because every Uzbek there had a doppi it was Muhlis who got all nervos and start telling me what to do. I think u r chovinist and I don't like chovinists.


why should muhlis give a damn about what you like and what you dont? nima bo'lsayam muhlis - millat uchun yongan yurak! shunisi hisob. siege'ga oxshagan mayda psevdointernacionallardan ming bora afzal.
sen o'zi shovinist degani nimaligini bilasanmi? hehe.. sovet paytida millatparvarlarni millatchi deb haqorat qilishardi. sen shu bilan adashtiryapsan shekilli. bo'sh paytingda kitob o'qigin, bola (eto ne ukaz, a drujeskiy sovet). dunyoqarashni kengaytiradi.

[Alouddin]

Observer, serious!

You're young Uzbek not Uzbek citizen and it seems to you that whatever Muhlis says about supporting his nationalistic ideas is right. But he's wrong from the start, no matter what language I write I try to keep myself in civilized borders!
Hello Siege (nu i stranny je nick u tebya...)

yes, I am only 21 years old, and I am non-citizen of Uzbekistan. However, I travel a lot to this country, for my hometown lies right on the border. I travel to Tashkent on a frequent basis as well (once in 2-3 months)... hate your cops!!! :evil: Even though I am not from there, Siege, I have my own points of view and besides, I was not exposed to whatever is going on in Uzbekistan, therefore, I can clearly see-to the best of my knowledge and observations-what's going on. And I never ever agreed with Muxlis in a blind way. I thought over his posts all the time, believe or not, but found lots of good things. And as I seem to understand from the first paragraph (quoted above) you think that I blindly believe in Muxlis's words... well, buddy, it ain't so...
Second in your country there's much less Russian speaking people then Uzbekistan but Russian is the second official language and official name of your country is Kirgizia (as in russian), and not Kirgizstan, because it's as rightly understood by your government Russian language means Progress in Central Asia (like it or not dear friends)
the answer is given in KKK's words "Official name of Kyrgyzstan is "Kyrgyz Republic" or "Kirgizskaya Respublika" k vashemu svedeniyu...
Plus if Muhlis or you would try to find a decent job in Tashkent (not mardicar bazaar one), you would not find one because Muhlis’s and your russian proficiency is very low, but it's a must in any former USSR countries!
знаешь, мне вот здесь стало вдруг очень смешно... а потом вдруг очень грустно... ты первый человек, которого я встречал в своей жизни, кто считает "my Russian is proficiency is very low." знаешь, я наверно вырос в русскоязычной атмосфере. в детстве увлекался книгами Марка Твена и прочих писателей и только, заметь (!) только на русском языке. Хехе, я даже преподовал этот язык некоторым. но сейчас речь не об этом. Речь о том, можем ли мы с Мухлисом найти работу в Ташкенте, столице Узбекистана, где перефразировав цитату из фильма "Здрасьте, я ваша тётя" и вложив "её" уста твои слова получаем: "где много-много диких харыпов". Так вот, я наверно со своим "гордым" (не "горным" :D) киргизским паспортом и не сумел бы обеспечить себе работу. ты будешь удивлятся, но я уже (!) работаю на одну международную организацию, в детали о которой вдаватся, конечно, не будем. Так вот у меня возник вопрос, а с чего ты это вдруг взял что ни я и ни Мухлис не владеют данным языком? Ведь данный "могучий и великий язык, который использовали Ленин и Толстой" только так навязывался во времена другого "могучего и великого", т.е. Советского Союза (последний, между прочим, тоже был навязан на тогдашний Туркестан). "Выучил бы я русский язык, только потому что на нем Ленин говорил!.." Чушь это всё, братан. Чушь, навязанная на нас!!! Нет, я конечно рад, что владею данным языком в совершентсве(!!!). У Мухлиса та же история, так что не стоит недооценивать тех, кого ты не знаешь, да и в глаза не видел.
There wes a wave of people like Muhlis in late 80s and begining of 90s whose only asset was his Uzbek language, they proved to be lazy and ignorant and been kicked out off jobs by other Uzbeks.
I cannot say anything about this, because at that time I was too young to realize what was going on around me, however, I remember that in early 90s of the last century, people were struggling with death to survive in post "Great and Eternal" Union's collapse era. But I hope that you are not trying to say that one has to "denounce" himself from being an Uzbek for finding employment...
Look at Muhamad Solih, he used to be very nationalistic, but everything I read now in e-mass media he wrote I read in russian. But I think it’s also theme of another topic. I respect this gentleman for his views and the acknowledgement he gained around the globe. I don't know much about him, but being young and inexperienced, I tend to trust the world leaders, who did acknowledge him as an Uzbek oppositioner.

LOOK I DO NOT SAY WE ALL SHALL BE SPEAKING RUSSIAN ONLY, BUT WHY I SHALL NOT USE THIS ONE OF RICHEST AND WIDELY USED LANGUAGES ON THIS SMALL PLANET IF I KNOW THIS LANGUAGE EXCELLENT!
dude, use your language skills as much you want/need/desire. But plz use it in a proper manner; use it not to call the entire Uzbek nation "nothing but a bunch of haryps"... If you can communicate in Russian fluently good for you! But, as you said somewhere, you are of Uzbek ethnicity... Do not forget that! do not forget the awesome and colossal legacy that we have inherited from Bobur, Ulug'bek, Amir Temur, Buhoriy, Tirmiziy, Ibn Sino, Alisher Navoiy!!! Dude!!! Don't call the Uzbeks "haryps" otherwise you can get yourself into a trouble within Tashkent!!!

Wassalam, Observer

p.s. plz, let us NOT argue about the ethnicities of the gentlemen listed above. I fully realize that at their lifetimes, there was no such ethnicity as UZBEK, however, they lived in the geographic are where we live now, therefore, we are their direct inheritors!!!

Ky3aTyB4u

[Soldier]

Siege is just a dumb **** :D :D

[Batur]

Yazimi turkce yaziyorum, beni anlayacaginizi umuyorum.
Arkadaslar arasira bu foruma bakiyorum ve her zaman hayretler icinde kaliyorum. Beni sasirtan, rus etkisinin ve sovyet zamaninin bu kadar daha ozbekistan ve Orta Asyada canli olmasi.
Biraz sert konusacagim, ama gercekleri soylemek en dogrusu oldugunu savunan birisiyim. On yildan fazla "bagimsiz' olmussunuz ama bence daha bircok kisinin kafasinda mustakiliyet olusmamis. Bu forumda bazi sahislar iddia ile rusca konusmaya diretiyor. Nedenmis? O dili daha iyi konusuyormus. En basta forumun bazi bolumleri sadece rusca yazilmis.
Simdi bir anadil nedir? Anadil bir insanin kulturunun ve kisiliginin yasadigi en onemli varligidir. Anadiline dikkat etmeyen bir insan kendi kulturune saygi duymadigini soylemektedir!
Bazi istirakcilar rusca ile daha 'modern' olunuyormus havasi vermek istiyor. Bence esas bunlar eski zamanlarin ve gecmis donemlerin dusunceleri - veya bunlar ozunde ozbek olmayan ama mide bulandirmak isteyen sahislardir .
Ama her neyse arkadaslar. Siz kendi dilinizi ve kulturunuzu ve ulusal duygunuzu daha bilincli korumazsaniz, bunun faturasini cok cok agir odersiniz. Tekrar rus emperial gucu altinda kalir ve bir kule ve kukla devleti olmaya mahkum olursunuz.

Ayrica bu forumda, kendi yolunuzda gitmek yerine, rus yalakaciligi yapan bir cok insanlar goruyorum. Bunlar buyuk capta burasini fikirlerini yayma platformuna cevirmisler.
O yuzden Muhlis gibi dusunceleri saglam arkadaslarin bu forumdan gitmesi yazik olur. Ve yakinda gercekten bu forum adina layik olamayacak duruma duser.

Muhlis bu yerdan ketishingiz noto'ridir, bu bilan siz o'z maglubiyatingizni ko'rsatmoqdasiz. Sizni doim qo'llab quvvatlayman. Va so'zimning yakunida bu halq so'zi bilan tamomlayman:
"Bezme -Bezdir!! ayni seklde "Gitme, Gitsinler!!!"

Saygilarimla...

[old member]

SAN KETMA QOLGIN SHU FORUMDA

HAR KIMMI GAPIGA ETIBOR BERMA MINGTA OGIZDAN MING HIL GAP CHIQADI

KURASHGANDAN KEYIN OHIRIGACHA BO'SINDE :D

SANGA OMAD

[Siege]

Siege wrote:
Observer, serious!

You're young Uzbek not Uzbek citizen and it seems to you that whatever Muhlis says about supporting his nationalistic ideas is right. But he's wrong from the start, no matter what language I write I try to keep myself in civilized borders!

Hello Siege (nu i stranny je nick u tebya...)

yes, I am only 21 years old, and I am non-citizen of Uzbekistan. However, I travel a lot to this country, for my hometown lies right on the border. I travel to Tashkent on a frequent basis as well (once in 2-3 months)... hate your cops!!! Even though I am not from there, Siege, I have my own points of view and besides, I was not exposed to whatever is going on in Uzbekistan, therefore, I can clearly see-to the best of my knowledge and observations-what's going on. And I never ever agreed with Muxlis in a blind way. I thought over his posts all the time, believe or not, but found lots of good things. And as I seem to understand from the first paragraph (quoted above) you think that I blindly believe in Muxlis's words... well, buddy, it ain't so...
Siege wrote:
Second in your country there's much less Russian speaking people then Uzbekistan but Russian is the second official language and official name of your country is Kirgizia (as in russian), and not Kirgizstan, because it's as rightly understood by your government Russian language means Progress in Central Asia (like it or not dear friends)

the answer is given in KKK's words "Official name of Kyrgyzstan is "Kyrgyz Republic" or "Kirgizskaya Respublika" k vashemu svedeniyu...
Siege wrote:
Plus if Muhlis or you would try to find a decent job in Tashkent (not mardicar bazaar one), you would not find one because Muhlis’s and your russian proficiency is very low, but it's a must in any former USSR countries!

знаешь, мне вот здесь стало вдруг очень смешно... а потом вдруг очень грустно... ты первый человек, которого я встречал в своей жизни, кто считает "my Russian is proficiency is very low." знаешь, я наверно вырос в русскоязычной атмосфере. в детстве увлекался книгами Марка Твена и прочих писателей и только, заметь (!) только на русском языке. Хехе, я даже преподовал этот язык некоторым. но сейчас речь не об этом. Речь о том, можем ли мы с Мухлисом найти работу в Ташкенте, столице Узбекистана, где перефразировав цитату из фильма "Здрасьте, я ваша тётя" и вложив "её" уста твои слова получаем: "где много-много диких харыпов". Так вот, я наверно со своим "гордым" (не "горным" ) киргизским паспортом и не сумел бы обеспечить себе работу. ты будешь удивлятся, но я уже (!) работаю на одну международную организацию, в детали о которой вдаватся, конечно, не будем. Так вот у меня возник вопрос, а с чего ты это вдруг взял что ни я и ни Мухлис не владеют данным языком? Ведь данный "могучий и великий язык, который использовали Ленин и Толстой" только так навязывался во времена другого "могучего и великого", т.е. Советского Союза (последний, между прочим, тоже был навязан на тогдашний Туркестан). "Выучил бы я русский язык, только потому что на нем Ленин говорил!.." Чушь это всё, братан. Чушь, навязанная на нас!!! Нет, я конечно рад, что владею данным языком в совершентсве(!!!). У Мухлиса та же история, так что не стоит недооценивать тех, кого ты не знаешь, да и в глаза не видел.
Siege wrote:
There wes a wave of people like Muhlis in late 80s and begining of 90s whose only asset was his Uzbek language, they proved to be lazy and ignorant and been kicked out off jobs by other Uzbeks.

I cannot say anything about this, because at that time I was too young to realize what was going on around me, however, I remember that in early 90s of the last century, people were struggling with death to survive in post "Great and Eternal" Union's collapse era. But I hope that you are not trying to say that one has to "denounce" himself from being an Uzbek for finding employment...
Siege wrote:
Look at Muhamad Solih, he used to be very nationalistic, but everything I read now in e-mass media he wrote I read in russian. But I think it’s also theme of another topic.
I respect this gentleman for his views and the acknowledgement he gained around the globe. I don't know much about him, but being young and inexperienced, I tend to trust the world leaders, who did acknowledge him as an Uzbek oppositioner.

Siege wrote:
LOOK I DO NOT SAY WE ALL SHALL BE SPEAKING RUSSIAN ONLY, BUT WHY I SHALL NOT USE THIS ONE OF RICHEST AND WIDELY USED LANGUAGES ON THIS SMALL PLANET IF I KNOW THIS LANGUAGE EXCELLENT!

dude, use your language skills as much you want/need/desire. But plz use it in a proper manner; use it not to call the entire Uzbek nation "nothing but a bunch of haryps"... If you can communicate in Russian fluently good for you! But, as you said somewhere, you are of Uzbek ethnicity... Do not forget that! do not forget the awesome and colossal legacy that we have inherited from Bobur, Ulug'bek, Amir Temur, Buhoriy, Tirmiziy, Ibn Sino, Alisher Navoiy!!! Dude!!! Don't call the Uzbeks "haryps" otherwise you can get yourself into a trouble within Tashkent!!!

Wassalam, Observer

p.s. plz, let us NOT argue about the ethnicities of the gentlemen listed above. I fully realize that at their lifetimes, there was no such ethnicity as UZBEK, however, they lived in the geographic are where we live now, therefore, we are their direct inheritors!!!

Ky3aTyB4u

Observer!

You just lost my last respect I had for your young growing personality :(((

DID ANYBODY IN THIS FORUM SAY TO MUHLIS HAS TO LEAVE THIS FORUM BECAUSE HE HAS IDEAS THAT I DO NOT LIKE OR EVEN EXPRESSING ANY HIS IDEAS - NO!

ALL THEY ASKED HIM TO NOT TO CUSS, EVEN HE CUSSED ALMOST EVERYDAY TO ME AND SOME OTHERS, EVEN THEN MEGAZ AND OTHER MODERATORS DID NOT CARE, THEY STARTED TO CARE ABOUT IT WHEN HE CROSSED LAST LINE FOR ANY MAN - HE STARTED TO CUSS SMB'S (MY) MOTHER!!!

EVEN NOW MUHLIS WRITES HERE HE'S GOING TO GET ME FOR AN ARGUMENT. AND YOU STILL WRITE ABOUT THIS CULTURE.

(THOUGH SWEAR BY GOD I'M SURE I WOULD BEAT SHIT OF HIM IN MATTER OF FEW MINUTES! BECAUSE AS HARIP HE DOES NOT UNDERSTAND GOOD WORDS THE PAIN IS THE BEST EXPLANATION FOR THIS HALF-ANIMAL!)

MUHLIS DOES NOT UNDERSTAND RUSSIAN THAT'S WHY HE ACTS LIKE SCARED MONKEY.

BUT ENOUGH OF HIM.

IF YOU WOULD CARE LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT OTHER FORUM MEMBERS
YOU WOULD NOTICE THIS LONG TIME AGO! BUT YOU'RE PROBABLY WAS GROWN UP THIS WAY THINKING ONLY ABOUT YOUR SORRY ASS AND EVEN PUTTING YOUR OWN NICK NAME FOR PASSWORD!

I UNDERSTAND YOU AND SOLDIER - YES YOU AND SOLDIER HAD BEEN HUMILIATED BY SOME KIRGIZS FOR BEING UZBEK, AND IT SOUNDS VERY SWEET TO YOU THAT UZBEK MUST BE EVERYTHING BUT IT JUST DOES NOT WORK.


AND I BET IT'S F-NG DANGEROUS TO SPEAK A WORD IN UZBEK IN YOUR KIRGIZ CITY, ESP-LY WHEN DARK PART OF TIME :shock: ! THOUGH NOBODY CARES FOR RUSSIANS BECAUSE THEY DO NOT SHOUT ABOUT THEIER "SUPER CULTURE" ON EACH CORNER!

AND WHAT F-ING DIFFRENCE BETWEEN KIRGIZIA AND KIRGIZISKAYA RESPUBLIKA?! THOUGH I'M F-NG SURE THEY SAY KIRGIZIA!

AND I'M ALSO SURE THAT'S WHY OUR NEIGBOUR NATIONS HATE US - BECAUSE YOU GUYS ONLY JOB IS CLAIMING TO BE SUPER CULTURED, SUPER MUSLIMS, SUPER LANGUAGE SPEAKERS.

SO YOU FOUND SOME RUSSIAN FRIEND HE HELPED YOU TO WRITE FEW LINES AND NOW YOU THINK I'VE BOUGHT IT?! AND DO NOT YOU EVER FEED ME WITH I TOUGHT RUSSIAN CRAP!

WE ARE NOTHING BUT ONE OF THE POOREST NATION OF 25 MIL ON THIS PLANET, RULED BY DICTATOR RAISED BY COMMUNIST SISTEM.

I'M NOTHING BUT GRATEFUL, REMEBERING ABOUT UZBEK GLORY OF SOVIET TIMES - TRYING TO IMPROVE MY COUNTRY! CARING ABOUT OLD FOLKS AND TEENS DYING OF POVERTY!

ALSO MY UZBEK KIRGIZ CITEZEN YOU THINK YOU'RE RIGHT LIVING IN US USING I-NET, ILLIGALY WORKING IN TASHKENT (IF WORKING)

I WISH YOU WERE PUT IN COTTON FIELD HARVESTING COTTON THEN SOME FAT BUSTARD ON "NEKSIA" WOULD TAKE HALF OF FOR FREE SAID SMTH HOW GREAT OUR CALTURE IS AND THIS HOW IT WORKS, JUST BECAUSE. AND THEN YOU WOULD F-NG DIE OF F-ING CANCER IN YOU THERTIES, ROTTENING JUST LIKE DOG THERE ON THE FIELD OF HARD WORK AND DEFILIANTS THEY USE!

HOW ABOUT THAT INSTEAD OF BEING ONE OF 0,01% USING I-NET IN US AND WRITING YOUR "SMART" THOUGHTS OF CULTURE?


TO BE CONTINUED!!!

[Siege]

Observer,
Too offensive staff

[Desperado]

Siege, and u r a piece of shit, that counts as an opinion about a person, like urs :)
however i respect you opinions at some points.

[Mr Potatokiller]

If you look at Sun after sitting in the darkness for a long period, it can hurt your eyes. :D

[Siege]

Gangste®,
Siege, and u r a piece of shit, that counts as an opinion about a person, like urs
however i respect you opinions at some points.



I took it off! :D

Can you explain what you wrote :D ?

[Desperado]

i state only, dont explain my friend.

[Siege]

Mr Potatokiller,
If you look at Sun after sitting in the darkness for a long period, it can hurt your eyes

???

Siege , durak ti.... slov net

[not enough memory to disp]

"I am leaving myself..."
hmm, interesting, how you leaving yourself?


"no need to ban me..."
what for?..

kinda confusing....

[not enough memory to disp]

"I am leaving myself..."
hmm, interesting, how you leaving yourself?


"no need to ban me..."
what for?..

kinda confusing.... anyways...

[quote="Anonymous"]When I said that "war stories" movie was lame because every Uzbek there had a doppi it was Muhlis who got all nervos and start telling me what to do. I think u r chovinist and I don't like chovinists.


why should muhlis give a damn about what you like and what you dont?

why do i give a damn about what u think? because people generaly give damn what other people say.

nima bo'lsayam muhlis - millat uchun yongan yurak! shunisi hisob.

Man ham patriotman, shunisi hisob masmi? keyi vatanparvarlik ham har hil buladi, va Uzekistonda hozir davltaga karshi bulgan odam sotkin, vatanparvar emas deb hisoblanadi. Davlatimizning muamolari kup, ularni Uzbekistonda hech kim muhokama kilvotgani yuk. Siege manga masalan eqadi chunki uni topiklarida mazmuni bor, va kup Uzbekistanga tegishli problemalar muhoqama kilinadi. Kimga eqmasa uqimalar. Kim psevdo kim haqiqyiligini man uzim biliman, sen erdam berishing shart emas.

sen o'zi shovinist degani nimaligini bilasanmi?

Aggressive or fanatical patriotism, particularly during time of war, in support of one's own nation (eg. government, culture, etc).

Filmda har kim Uzbek duppida edi, Uzbekistonda hammasi duppida yurmidi. Shunaka disam, Muhlis manga sakrashi boshaladi "Sanga nima eqmadi, problemalaring bormi duppi bilan?" Man ayitgan gapimda doppiga qarshi hech qanaqa gap yuqidi, bu chovinism eqi ahmokgarshilik, uzing tanla. Qitoblarini uqib utiribman, hovatir olmagin

[Siege]

To Observer:

Насчет Оша я говорю со знанием дела, у меня много знакомых, которые там жили. В темное время суток узбекам опасно появлятся в некоторых райнах. И ты меня не переубедишь, что в неузбекских районах ты можешь "там орать на узбекском".
Межэтнические отношения там очень наколенны, о чем я время от времени читаю в электронных СМИ, также ошские события конца 80х, ты тоже видимо "забыл".
А причина в том же нечего выебываться - "узбек булсанг сенга яхши", понял. А нас из-за глупых претензий не любят во всей Средней Азии - от Ашхабада до Душанбе и Астаны и Бишкека.
И судя по тому как ты назвал титульную нацию - узкоглазыми братьями, ты их сильно побаиваешься.
Насчет illegaly working я видимо в точку попал :D.
Все остальное что ты напиcал ерунда.

Иэ-за таких придурков как ты и Мухлис мы не будем в общем Туркестане никогда!
Потому что в Средней Азии каждый народ думает, что его культура самая, самая.
И никто не в праве им говорить нет, узбеки лучше!
А такие придурки как ты мне постоянно пытаются мне это "втереть".

[asdf]

Зиге я одно не понимаю,
С Мухлисом уже все ясно было, он покинул форум а то что в данный момент столько шума вокруг этого то умный человек может предвидеть что вскоре все эти страсти стихнить, все забудиться и никто даже и не вспомнить кто такой Мухлис. А ты все не смог успокоиться, ладно это можно понять, Мухлис сильно задел тебя, он перешел на личность, но разьве тебе не ясно было что он kinda sample of your tоpic о ком в основном шла и речь. Ты совсем глупо поступил споря с Обсервером, а то что ты постанул сюда ПМ, это подло по всем правилам, ну разьве что по харипскому.
В заключении хочу процитировать Лао Цзи:
Побеждая, надо уметь остановиться.
с уважением,
мужрим.
Вассалам.

[Siege]

asdf,
а то что ты постанул сюда ПМ, это подло по всем правилам, ну разьве что по харипскому.


Дорогой Мужрим!

Я не постил его PM, хотя и предупредил его об этом!
Но так как я только что запостил последний топик, да может показаться, что я поступаю некрасиво.
ОК! Я убираю ссылки на его PM.

С уважением Сидж!

[Alouddin]

Observer dicided to write me in PM. I did not cut and pasted what he wrote - he uses a lot of "emotional" words, though writes in Russian.
This is my answer to chidish crap he wrote about how great Uzbek influence is in Central Asia. And how kirgizs do not abuse uzbeks in Kirgizstan. And how he hates Tashkent and Tashkenties :rolleyes: .
__________________________________________________ _________

Насчет Оша я говорю со знанием дела, у меня много знакомых, которые там жили. В темное время суток узбекам опасно появлятся в некоторых райнах. И ты меня не переубедишь, что в неузбекских районах ты можешь "там орать на узбекском".
Межэтнические отношения там очень наколенны, о чем я время от времени читаю в электронных СМИ, также ошские события конца 80х, ты тоже видимо "забыл".
А причина в том же нечего выебываться - "узбек булсанг сенга яхши", понял. А нас из-за глупых претензий не любят во всей Средней Азии - от Ашхабада до Душанбе и Астаны и Бишкека.
И судя по тому как ты назвал титульную нацию - узкоглазыми братьями, ты их сильно побаиваешься.
Насчет illegaly working я видимо в точку попал :D.
Все остальное что ты напиcал ерунда.

Иэ-за таких придурков как ты и Мухлис мы не будем в общем Туркестане никогда!
Потому что в Средней Азии каждый народ думает, что его культура самая, самая.
И никто не в праве им говорить нет, узбеки лучше!
А такие придурки как ты мне постоянно пытаются мне это "втереть".

ndaaaa... vidat' takie kak ty ne ispravlayutsa... och. jal' konechno. a napisal ya tebe v privat poskol'u, ya ne dumayu, chto ostalnym posetitelyam bylo by interesno. a naschot raboty moyey tashenskoy ty konechno oshibaeshsa, no kajetsya tvoya gordost' slishkom zatmila i zatumanila tvoy razum... znaesh, chto? Bog s toboy... jivi v svoyom malenkom mirke... udachi, i day Bog tebe prozreniya! Ya Oshskiy i znayu kak obstoyat dela namnogo luchshe tebya. tak vot, nazyvav menya pridurkom ty dokazyvaeash svoyo nevejestvo, kotoraya vyrajaetsa v tvoyom "dare" otsenivat ludey nikogda ne videvshih...

Wassalam, Observer

p.s. ksta., ne stoit bespokoitsa i otvechat mne... Hudo o'zi yordamchi bo'sin senga...

MeH, Ky3aTyB4u

[Alouddin]

И никто не в праве им говорить нет, узбеки лучше!
А такие придурки как ты мне постоянно пытаются мне это "втереть". [/U]

poslednee slovechko: ya nikogda ne govoril, chto uzbeki luchshe... vse ravny pered Bogom, tak chto...

hmm... pridurok, huh?! ndah, ty uje u nas not mentally challenged, tak? tak vot, esli ludi razgovarivayut s toboy na tvoyom urovne (ili daje vyshe), to znachit oni toje not mentally challenged... ili ty toje pridurok, poskolku uroven intellekta pochti u vseh posetiteley pochti odinakov...

Ты совсем глупо поступил споря с Обсервером, а то что ты постанул сюда ПМ, это подло по всем правилам, ну разьве что по харипскому.
мужрим.
Вассалам.Mujreem, nice nick (to the best of my knowledge, means "a criminal" in Arabic :)

Wassalam

[Siege]

Observer,
ya nikogda ne govoril, chto uzbeki luchshe...


O Yeee? А как ты назвал киргизов? Напомнить?

Если я еще не прозрел, я уже не прозрею никогда :D.

Придурок, это относится не к IQ, а к поведению, в отличие от дурака.

Перестань заниматся самолюбованием, мой тебе совет.

Mahmud xat eozdi.Ъchjmk Ъchkchldcho u E'yaoui, zse'u
vouyu`utsjchoku, lukch zhchnjcho.
Ъutsjchozhch AEЪ Yuyasmomdchzhu pchlue'jcho, ┘. Schk `chjmk
vyumouznpujcho.Ъchkchldcho lukch ichhpuyu iejkmibukch`ku`chl
,kel `elu iyapuyu yapuouyukchl.Ya eodch Schk iutsbchjcho yuujchl
yahlchyu vouyu`chlku? Ichhpuyu iej`chlzh iyatsulzhch
iyao`chpchkchl.Kchskyadzhch `omblm smpul mjuyu yueochkuts. Tyadch
yatsudchl iepznpu .Yuutsjcho `elu tyadch `mzhuldui. Ъelu iuouyu
iejchepzhchl Lchaoyats yuchhochku yuujchl
pchyuouijchhkuts.Yatsjchoulzhutsdch lukch zhchnjcho? Ue'jchoulzhuts
zse'uku
Kchl, Luzhmoch ┘, iehul E'chaichp.

[Alouddin]

O Yeee? А как ты назвал киргизов? Напомнить?
ne nado napominat, ya pomnyu chto ya ix nazval "uzkoglaziya bratya", poskolku oni proisxodyat iz toy je geograficheskoy territorii, chto i my. i yazyk u nix prinadlejit k tyurksoy semye yazykov. nadeyus, chto ponyatno...

prikin', ya mogu daje kazahov, turkmen i tadjikov mogu nazvat svoimi bratyami :shock: shunaqa bashariyatni sevadigan bollardanman :evil:

Me, Observer

[Mr Potatokiller]

Как я понел, здес идет "Разборка в мальенком Насим-Лендэ"

Оч бикинига ур, оч бикинига...... :D


Siege and Observer, I understand that I have no rights to interfere your discussion, since it looks very private, but don't let yourselves get angry because of some other member(MUHLIS). He left, we will remember his heroic and fierce battle for truth and pride of Uzbek nation.

"Let there be peace in the middle east, as well as in here"

Глупая гордость некоторых участников форума мешает им понять точки зрения друг друга и за счёт этого обогатиться интеллектуально и духовно. Меня это просто раздражает, когда отвлекаются от темы и переходят на оскорбления личности.
Если б всю эту энергию приложили к тому, чтобы найти адекватную замену слову "харыпизм" в рамках обсуждения Сиговской темы, давно бы уже нашли! И наверное, уже выработали бы план по укреплению национального менталитета. Эх вы... :(

[Alouddin]

Как я понел, здес идет "Разборка в мальенком Насим-Лендэ"

Оч бикинига ур, оч бикинига...... :D


Siege and Observer, I understand that I have no rights to interfere your discussion, since it looks very private, but don't let yourselves get angry because of some other member(MUHLIS). He left, we will remember his heroic and fierce battle for truth and pride of Uzbek nation.
"Let there be peace in the middle east, as well as in here"

c'mon in, Mr Killer ;-)

MUXLIS haqidagi fikringizga qo'shilmasamda (and I hope he'll return), MIDDLE EAST'ga qo'shilaman :|

Wassalam, Observer

p.s. that' what I thought! I thought it was a conversation between me and Siege, however, the latter decided to pour it into here... well, what can I say...

Observing,

Observer

[Siege]

Observer,
prikin', ya mogu daje kazahov, turkmen i tadjikov mogu nazvat svoimi bratyami
Ты случайно их не братьями меньшими нашими называешь?! :D

ya pomnyu chto ya ix nazval "uzkoglaziya bratya", poskolku oni proisxodyat iz toy je geograficheskoy territorii, chto i my. i yazyk u nix prinadlejit k tyurksoy semye yazykov. nadeyus, chto ponyatno

А ты их спросил, им самим нравится когда их так называют?! Мне кажется не очень. Чурка тоже значит обгоревшая головешка, в принцип ничего обидного, а мне почему то неприятно, когда меня так называют. :D


p.s. that' what I thought! I thought it was a conversation between me and Siege, however, the latter decided to pour it into here... well, what can I say...


Да ты сказал, что ты действительно думаешь. У тебя есть стороники, и я не хочу тратить отдельное время на каждого из них, пусть знают твои истинные мысли.

Короче Обсер, ты мелкий слизняк и и такой же мелкий националист. Хотя и это с возрастом проходит.
Ты вроде не глупый человек у тебя пройдет.

Давай закончим наши дискуссии на в этом топике.

Хотел я тебе дать более глубокую оценку, но сейчас видимо не успею.

[noodles]

thank God that you finished :)

[_Charosoy_]

Siege, ti schitayesh sebya umnim? :rolleyes:

[Siege]

charoshon,
Siege, ti schitayesh sebya umnim?


А что? Стараюсь оценивать себя трезво. Просто есть несколько человек в этом форуме, которые меня заводят.

[free radical]

If it were my option to chose as a reliable friend between 1000 guys with the character of Siege and the one of 1 Muhlis, i would go for the a guy like Muhlis ;)

It's sad that Muhlis left the forum, but he's taken the right direction - while abroad one should learn culture and lifestyle of the country where one is, that will contrubute to persoanlity building and hopefully to nationbuilding process in UZ. Killing the time in the forum while abroad - lost opportunity.

[Siege]

free radical,
while abroad one should learn culture and lifestyle of the country where one is, that will contrubute to persoanlity building and hopefully to nationbuilding process in UZ. Killing the time in the forum while abroad - lost opportunity.


Yes FR I agree with you!
I think you're abroad, right? :D

[free radical]

free radical,
while abroad one should learn culture and lifestyle of the country where one is, that will contrubute to persoanlity building and hopefully to nationbuilding process in UZ. Killing the time in the forum while abroad - lost opportunity.


Yes FR I agree with you!
I think you're abroad, right? :D

yes, I am abroad, but the difference is I am here not for studies, but for good.

[Alouddin]

Observer zashol, mahnul rukoy na vsyo i podumav "bukrini qabr to'g'rilaydi" pokinul etot topik na sovsem! :evil:

Wassalam, Ky3aTyB4u

p.s. he sendaqa odamlarga baho beradiganlardan o'rgildim!!! :evil:

Me, Observer

[qori yigit :D]

uyamas, buyamas, Siygek bolani betiga tupurvorish kereganakan :D

[MUHLIS]

Observer zashol, mahnul rukoy na vsyo i podumav "bukrini qabr to'g'rilaydi" pokinul etot topik na sovsem! :evil:

Wassalam, Ky3aTyB4u

p.s. he sendaqa odamlarga baho beradiganlardan o'rgildim!!! :evil:

Me, Observer
Photoalbumga kiring ketishdan avval kaminani basharasini korib keting:):):) Yana Oshda yonimdan hoshshirayib otib ketmang:):):)
Photoalbumga kiring, osha yerda man ozimi rasmlarimi koydim ;)

[Siege]

MUHLIS,
Photoalbumga kiring ketishdan avval kaminani basharasini korib keting:) Yana Oshda yonimdan hoshshirayib otib ketmang:)
Photoalbumga kiring, osha yerda man ozimi rasmlarimi koydim


I saw your pictures. You seem to be a nice (dobriy) guy there (serious).
But still a h-p. I think by the end of eductaion there you will change.
And that was right idia for you to involve more in other (american) culture instead of spending your time with compatriots in this forum.

[Alouddin]

MUHLIS,
Photoalbumga kiring ketishdan avval kaminani basharasini korib keting :) Yana Oshda yonimdan hoshshirayib otib ketmang :) Photoalbumga kiring, osha yerda man ozimi rasmlarimi koydim

I saw your pictures. You seem to be a nice (dobriy) guy there (serious).
But still a h-p. I think by the end of eductaion there you will change.
And that was right idia for you to involve more in other (american) culture instead of spending your time with compatriots in this forum.

damn it, dude :evil: after this u r making me (!) think that you (!) are a cool guy as well :evil:...

daaaaaaamn... Observer

MUHLIS,
Photoalbumga kiring ketishdan avval kaminani basharasini korib keting:) Yana Oshda yonimdan hoshshirayib otib ketmang:)
Photoalbumga kiring, osha yerda man ozimi rasmlarimi koydim


I saw your pictures. You seem to be a nice (dobriy) guy there (serious).
But still a h-p. I think by the end of eductaion there you will change.
And that was right idia for you to involve more in other (american) culture instead of spending your time with compatriots in this forum.
Would give as a favor and show your pic.s as well? That would be a great honor for us! Or you are too weas to show your face???

[ARAKUDZE]

assalamu alaikum!
siz kimsiz nimasiz bilmayman, muhlis qanaqa bo'lgan uniyam bilmayman...
lekin sizga bitta maslahatim o'zini tilini mukammal ishlatish bu millatiga vataniga bo'lgan hurmati va sodiqligidir. Rossiyada NON puli uchun ertalabtan kechgacha ter tokayotganlar HUKMDORINGIZ dastidandir. ularni kamsitish discrimiacia bunga sizni mutlaqo haqqingiz yoqkim chunki siz SIRADAN BIRISI siz! unaqa haqga ega bola olmaysiz men bunga kafilman!
yana bitta gap Muhammad Solihdan ornak olmang, u vatangado!
qorqoq odam!

[Gareeb]

ketadigan bo'lsangiz yo'qolib keting, hech kim ushlab turgani yo'q. Hech kim taklif ham qilmagan bu erga. O'zim ham to'grisi ko'p ham yoqtiravermayman shu forumni. Ba'zi bir zaharlangan qatnashchilar qonimni qaynatadi. Lekin nachora chidaysiz, chunki hech kim majburlagani yo'q qoling deb. Boshqalarga achchiq qilib chiqib ketish bu zaiflik deb bilaman. Umuman olganda yahshi ish qilgansiz, chunki bu erda o'tirishning foydasidan ko'ra zarari ko'p, vaqt isrof bo'ladi.Oq yo'l sizga.

[Gareeb]

Bu mavzu almisoqdan qolgan ekanku kimga kerak edi buni kovlash .... :(

[Pythagor]

... bu erda o'tirishning foydasidan ko'ra zarari ko'p, vaqt isrof bo'ladi..... yuqoridagi gaplarizga qisman qo'shilaman, lekin forumni ham o'ziga yarasha foydali tamonlari ko'p...

[Gareeb]

ha men umuman foydasiz demadim, lekin zarari ko'payib ketadi ortiqcha o'tirsangiz .Chunki bundan ko'ra foydali ish qilish mumkinku. Shuni nazarda tutgandim.

[-Resident-]

Shu mavzuni o`qib chiqdim hozirgina Muhlis va Sige ni ja yahshi bilvormaymanku(forum orqali) lekin shu Sige ga o`hshagan odamlarni yo`qtirmadim afsuski hozirgi paytda ham forumda shunga o`hshaganlar yo`q emas!:twisted:

[Mogul]

Shu mavzuni o`qib chiqdim hozirgina Muhlis va Sige ni ja yahshi bilvormaymanku(forum orqali) lekin shu Sige ga o`hshagan odamlarni yo`qtirmadim afsuski hozirgi paytda ham forumda shunga o`hshaganlar yo`q emas!:twisted:
We need more Sieges and less Muhlises in this forum.
Of course this is just my IMHO.

[-Resident-]

We need more Sieges and less Muhlises in this forum.
Of course this is just my IMHO.
Of cource everyone has own IMHO but I would suggest you take a look some words of that guy siege and espessially #56 where you can see what is inside of him!

[Mogul]

Well before judging somebody's posting you have to understand what was the reason for that. Obviously these two were bitter enemies and they were looking for any chance to offend each other. But if you go and search the profile of the Siege and read his postings and topics then you will understand that this guy was very smart.

[-Resident-]

Well before judging somebody's posting you have to understand what was the reason for that. Obviously these two were bitter enemies and they were looking for any chance to offend each other. But if you go and search the profile of the Siege and read his postings and topics then you will understand that this guy was very smart.
If someone smart is it enough you think? But not for me!
"Olim bo`lish oson odam bo`lish qiyin"
PS.And this is my last post here in this topic