CAN UZBEK MARRY AN AMERICAN???

[ShumBola]

Hey Guys and Gals!
I'm pretty sure this topis is going to sound really controversial since we have conservative group of students as opposed to some liberals. That's what makes it fun though ;) Ok, this is really complicated issue but I wanna know what you guys think about it. Here is the story:

"Bir bor ekan, bir yoq ekan. Qadim qadim zamonda, o'rtahol oilada bitta oddiy o'zbek bolakay bo'lgan ekan. U dunyoni kezishni juda ham orzu qilarkan. Va kunlardan bir kuni unga shunday imkoniyat nasib qilib, Amerika diyoriga tashrif buyuradi. Va buyerda u ancha vaqt o'tkazadi va bilim oladi. Lekin mana shu davrni u bir sayohat davrida tasodifan bir qiz bilan tanishib qoladi, va o'sha qiz bilan shunaqangi ayrilmas do'st bo'lishadiki. Bir birlarini juda ham qattiq sevishadi desam yahshiroq bo'ladi. Ular har safar telefonda gaplashishganda soatlab gaplashishardi va hech qachon zerikishmadi. Lekin ular albatta ularni kelajakda nima kutayotganidan habarlari yoq edi...." to be continued...

A skazke NEKONES a kto slushal molodes, a kto ne slushal tot solenniy ogures :D:):D

Vot zdes i zakluchayetsya zagadka. Mojetli eto skazka okonchitsya dobrom??? Esli net to pochemu???

Chto mojet pomeshat Romeo i Juliete jit v schastlivom brake??? What are those obstacles...i.e. O'zbek tili, O'zbek qadriyatlari, etc???

Budu jdat vashih mneniy,
Shumik

[Shumbola]

Umaus_away> Umid aka
Bilaman siz albatta bu discussionni sevasiz. Mayli fiklaringizni kutib qolamiz :):):)
Hasta La Vista
PS: bemallol hohlaganizcha gapirishingiz mumkin...no bans :) hafa bo'lish yoq

[scorpio]

Samiy bolshoy obstacle eto UMID,
a potom eto ne dlya Uzbeka jenitsya na amerikanke. Pover mne men hali Amerikada bitta ham O'zbek qiziday zo'r qizni ko'rganim yoq. Only one exception odna devushka iz Pakistana no ona toje po moyemu domoy uyehala :). Tak chto jenis v Uzbekistane gore Romeo:).
Azizbek

[Admiral]

Ha Shumik,
US ga kelib olib ham yana shumlik ni boshladingmi a ? :)
yomonsan ...
A tak tuyga aytish esdan chikmasin !!!
kusha qariyla,
a tak ertak ozgina "kurkinchli" ekan ;)

[yusuf]

I think so Shumbola, remember to invite me to your wedding as well.
take care

[Nancy]

A friend of mine (american) says she doesn't have a problem with marrying an uzbek guy, "..as soon as I marry him, he will become american," she said :)

[ShumBola]

Voy voooo :) chatoq sizlaru
Mda...Fikrlariz uchun katta rahmat juda ham yordam berdi. :P Nima ham qilardi bechora bola, albatta O'ZBEK QIZLARI'ga gap yoq, hammadan ustun...ammo sho'r peshana bola ko'ngildagi o'zbek qizini topmagan shekilli, shuning uchun Amerikalik qiz ko'ziga dur-u-gavghar bo'lib ko'rinvotti. Lekin bu degani amerikaliklar o'zbek yigitiga bo'midi degani emas. Hammalariz bilasiz taqdir degan narsa bor. Hammaga o'sha Alloh taoloning nasib qilgani bor, lekin buni faqat vaqt ko'rsatadi.

A tak oylaymanki O'zbek bola can marry American girl, if she accepts the Islam and uzbek traditions....

Nancy ne takli? :)
Yusuf, Admiral to'yda joyni to'ri sizlarniki:)
Scorpio, the boy admits that Uzbek girls are the best, but I guess he just never encountered one...as this american girl....gosh He's crazy as Tazz

crazy ROMEO
HINT: what if the boy get his parents' CONSENT for marrying an AMERICAN??? a...chto togda?

[COMRON]

Then follow this :
"Oshing halol bu'lsa ku'chada ich"
Regards COMRON

[Bratan]

Man Shumbolani kup gaplariga qushilaman, nimaga endi uzbek yigiti amerikan qizga uylana olmas ekan, albatta uylanishi mumkin agar bazi shart sharoitlar amalga oshirilsa bunga manimcha qarshilik qiladigan muammo bumiydi. Avvalambor, dinimizga kura qiz islomni tan olishi va musulmon bulishi kerak, qolaversa uzbek urf odatlarini yigitimiz u qizga urgatishi, yani uzbekistonga borganda syurpriz bumasligi uchun avvaldan qizni tayyorlash kerak uzbekiston sharoitlariga. Kimdir UMID bunga qarshi buladi debdi, manimcha tuyni uzbekistonda utkazilsa va bu tuyga umiddan vakillarni ham taklif etilsa (this one is optional) muammo bumiydi. Lekin har ikki yoshni ham qattiq hayot sinovlari kutadi oldinda, chunki ular o'z sevgilariga erishmoqchi bulsalar, katta sabr qanoat va chidamlilik kerak buladi ularga, ana shundagina ular uz maqsadlariga erishishlari mumkin. Albatta, eng qiyin narsa bu ota onaning roziligini olish. lekin manimcha agar bulajak kelin kuyovni ota onasiga ular kutgandan ham ortiqroq ko'rina olsa bu muammo ham o'z yechimini topishi mumkin.
Hullas, bu mazvu haqida ko'p tortishish mumkin va mening hech kim bilan tortishib vaqtimni ketkazish niyatim ham yuq. O'z fikrlarimni bildirdim holos.
Yigit va qizga omad tilayman.

[Davito]

Ya ne ponyal, a chto kto to uje skazal chto nel'zya!? hmmmm, mogu predpolojit' kto eto ;)

good luck, jenix! :)

[Batarin.]

Iye nimaga Ozbek yigiti Ameriqqqqqqqolik qizga uylanolmas ekan

konechno uylanishi mumkin men ham jon-jon deb uylanardim lekin jicha

yoshlik qilaman no a tak kelin tayar!!!

Toyga aytish esdan chiqmasin?!

Take care.

Batarin.

[ShumBola]

:):):) Iye mana haqiqat bor ekanku.
Mana iloji bor ekanku Rahmat Brattani firklariga meni aytoqchi bo'lgan fikrimni oydin ochiqlab berdi. O'zbek yigitining amriqolik qizga uylanishi aslo oson emas buni "bolakay" ham tan oladi. Lekin bunday vaziyatda juda ham ko'p narsani hisobga olishga to'g'ri keladi. Iloji bo'lsa pragmatik bo'lish kerak. Nu lekin bola qizni chindan ham sevarkan, shuning hamma qiyinchiliklarga bardosh berishga rozi bo'lgan. Mana endi bu yog'ini vaqt ko'rsatadi. Muammolar yoq emas bor, lekin ularni yengsa bo'ladi. Hammasi odamning niyatiga hamda harakatiga bog'liq. Nima agar amerikalikni o'zbek qisa bo'midi? O'zbeklarni amerikalik qilishganda? iye.. :) Vpolne qilsa bo'ladi, to'g'ri mushkulroq bo'ladi holos

Lekin sevgini deb odam ko'r ko'rona emosiyalarga berilishi ham mumkin emas...deb mani do'damgilar aytgandilar hali "Tohir va Zuhro" TV-1 ko'rsatishvotga :) Ilohim Alloh'ning o'zi "bolakay"ning bahtini bersin va eng munosib qizni topish nasib etsin. Qani Illoho Omiiiin !!! :)

Yashasin Liberallar!!! (te kto opravdivayut ideyu braka uzbekskogo parnya s amerikanskoy devushkoy) after all what's the difference we are all the same in front of God, only our believes matter...and if they are the same , then Yallama Yorum Yallola :D:D:D

[manosha]

Shum salom !

Znaesh vse eto horosho, lyubov , telefonnie razgovori , privyazannost.
No ponimaesh est takoe ponyatie " privichka" . I skoro ya ne govory cherez nedelyu ili cherez god, a cherez goda , proydet eto sumashedshee chuvstvo , proydut eti trepetnie momenti, togda nastrupit uje real'naya jisn.I togda ya dumayu chto ti budesh o mnogom sojalet. o tom chto u tebya jena ne takaya hozyayka ili trepetnaya kak uzbechki , chto ona ne sovsem ponimayet tvoe mishlennie i chto voobshe vse po drugomu. Seychas ti mojesh bit slep kak kotenok i daje podumaesh chto ya govoryu chepuhu. Pover mne ne vsegda budet vse krasivo i ne navsegda u tebya ostanutsya eti chuvtsva chto i seychas. Poetomu ne toropi sobitiya, jivi, vtsrechaysya, uznavay, privikay ili podstraivay pod svoy lad .

Ya znala i znayu mnogih kto sdelal takoy shag , i iz 4 etih sluchaev ya mogu zdelat vivod chto brak neschastniy i mujchini vse ravno vzvrashayutsya k svoim rodnim i samim ludshim uzbechkam:)))

jelayu tebe uspehov ,

chto bi ti ne reshil, bud schastliv:)


Manosha

[UMKA]

IF YOU ARE UMIDIE YOU CAN NOT :) LOOK AT THE NEW CONTRACT
BUT IF YOU ARE NOT WHY NOT :)?
ESPECIALLY YOU ARE GUY AND IF YOU HAVE PARENT'S "GRREN LIGHT " ON IT

:)

TUYGA ETILA BORMASEK HAM HURSAND BULAMIZ

[umaus]

Salom bro

We have already spoken about it, I ya tebe skaju. I mean vopervih, I hope for the best. I agree with BRATAN and all who say WHY NOT!! Ofcourse, kajdii iz nas sam viberaet svoi put, i ti konechno je mojesh jeniza na amerkanke. No budet li eto pravelnim shagom. Ya ne dumayu. konechno mojet povesti, ti mojesh i bit the lucky one. No ya dumau shto jenivshis na Amerikanke u tya vozniknut mnogo problem. Ya absolutno soglasen s MANOSHOI (we just have te same thoughts), no I have some more to add. Shum aka, I dont know about this American girl, but CAN u make her UZBEK And A Muslim. I think you cant, and she wouldnt want to. Again I donno her. OK lets say u marry her,And she tells you ok I will live with you I will try to become and follow uzbek traditions, but i am soo (won't say 100%) but I am soo sure that maybe like in 5 years, 6 years whenever, she will want to go back where she was born, she will want to do what her parents, her people do. Not what UZbeks do. I am sure, just put yourself in her position. U have to different mentalities. And u can not change that. UZBEK and American are two completely different persons. But now consider UZBEK girl, SHE (UZBEK GIRL) is the only one that will understand you, know what you are thinkin of, she will know exactly how to help you in bad times. Pover mne, ya ne govoru tebe shto UZBEK GIRLS ARE THE BEST ( UZB girls, dont take it worng :) Every nation has goods and bads), but UZBEK GIRLS are the BEST FOR UZBEK GUYS. AFTER YEARS, u will realize that. u will want to have an UZBEK girl, which will say, VOIIIII ADASIIIIIII,CHOI-POI ICHILUUUUUUU :) or what ever.
SO GOOD LUCK SHUM. I am nobody to tell what to do, but you know PROSTO SOVET(froma friend)
But its up to you.
Maybe it will work, and if it does, let me know :)
AIGHT GOOD LUCK
And I agree with MANOSHA :)

[dude]

What do you guys think of marrying to Japanase or Korean girls? They are quite cute, and they look like as Uzbek people.
I`m thinking of it qiute seriously.What do you say?

[........]

What a strange name, `dude`
Shu erga ham tiqildingmi 14 ing bilan?
Take care

[Don Juan]

Eee bolla manga qarela, nima kere bor ko'p gappi. the best thing have many girl friends in US or Uk wherever, but definetely get married with uzbek girl. They are the best for us, my long experience proved that:)

take care

Juan

After all they are all the same...

[Avaz]

to Shumbola:

"Ular har safar telefonda gaplashishganda soatlab gaplashishardi va hech qachon zerikishmadi. Lekin ular albatta ularni kelajakda nima kutayotganidan habarlari yoq edi...."

Please, let me know what operator's services they were enjoying off. Seems to be offering very good rates,

thanks..
Avaz

[Avaz]

to Shumbola:

"Ular har safar telefonda gaplashishganda soatlab gaplashishardi va hech qachon zerikishmadi. Lekin ular albatta ularni kelajakda nima kutayotganidan habarlari yoq edi...."

Please, let me know what operator's services they were enjoying off. Seems to be offering very good rates,

thanks..
Avaz

[Alpomish]

Hey bolalar va qizlar, a bu suhbatni jaa qizitvoribsilaru :) !
Shumbola: "Nima agar amerikalikni o'zbek qisa bo'midi? O'zbeklarni amerikalik qilishganda? iye.. Vpolne qilsa bo'ladi, to'g'ri mushkulroq bo'ladi holos!" --- Vpolne to'g'ri gap, lekin hechham mushkul bo'lmaydi. Faqat amerikalik qiz uzbekistonga ketsammi, yo'qmi, deb mushkullikka tushishi mumkin xolos. Albatta u yigit bilan birga ketadi, u bilan bir umr birga bo'lish uchun barcha narsaga tayyor bo'ladi, bilasilaru amerikankalarni ;)
Tasavvur qiling, uzbek yigiti va amerikankadan paydo bo'lgan farzandning millati nima bo'ladi. Amerikalik deyilmaydiyu, AmericanUzbek deb atashib, keyinchalik "AmerUz" deb atab ketishadi.

Umaus:" VOIIIII ADASIIIIIII,CHOI-POI ICHILUUUUUUU" , tillariga asal lekin uzbek qizlarimizni, ha endi buni hayot deb qo'yibdilar, davonlari kuuuupgina. Shunday shirin so'z aytgan zabondan achchiqqina so'zlar ham chiqib turadi afsuski :( Masalan: VOOOOV ADASI, ADASSI DEDIM MAN SIZGA, CHOYGA KELMAYSIZMI TEZROQ, SOVUB QOLADI", desa, tasavvur qilingki, eri nima deb javob beradi. ER: "SOVUMAYDIGAN JOYGA TIQIB TUR, HOZIR BUGALONIKIGA GOL TIQISHDI, SHUNI KO'RIB OLAY" :)
Hayot shunaqa qiziqda uzi.
Ha mayli, nima bo'lganda ham hikoyadagi ikki yoshga baxt bersin olloh. To'yga aytish esdan chiqmasin, borolmasak ham 100 gramm bilan baxt tilab qo'yamiz ;)

[sanjar]

Shumbola,

...daryo toshqin suvlar tolqin - otolmaymaney,
otim oriq manzilimga yetolmaymaney...
...otginamni oriq qilgan shu mayda toshey,
ranginamni sariq qilgan shu Amerikalik qoshey... :)

Shumbolani qoshig'i ham oziga yarashibdi-de, a?

Look, Shumbola, follow your heart, man!
The best advice: BE YOURSELF!
The worst advice: BE YOURSELF! ;)

U tya takaya skazka, chto chem dal'she tem strashneye (kak tam kto-to nameknul na eto).

Bud' ya tem geroyem tvoyey "skazki", posovetovalsya by so svoimi grannies and parents 'coz they know more than any of us here does!

p.s. Scorpio, o'sha Pakistankani qo'shnisi O'zbey bo'gandir-de :)

[ShumBola]

To Avaz:
I don't know which operator does the girl used when she called, but what matters is she never cared about phone bills :)

Sanjar:
Balli, Balli bro! Shu qo'shig'izni eshitib cho'ta yoshligim esimga keldi :) Bunaqa talantingiz borligini bilmagandim, Gap Yoq!

Sanjar:
Look, Shumbola, follow your heart, man!
The best advice: BE YOURSELF!
The worst advice: BE YOURSELF!

..Samiy umniy sovet, to'ppa tog'ri. Odamni diliga quloq solishi kerak. Lekin shunda ham oy'lab ish qilish kerak. Hech qachon, hech qayerda yozib qo'ymagan chto O'zbek yigitini bahti o'zbek qizi bo'ladi deb. Biz insonlar hech qachon bila olmaymiz 100% kim bizning bahtimiz. Lekin umid qilishimiz hamda tahmin qilishimiz mumkin. Bolakay ham umid qilyapti shekilli. Lekin ohirigacha kurashishga tayor.

Don Juan:
Eee bolla manga qarela, nima kere bor ko'p gappi. the best thing have many girl friends in US or Uk wherever,
but definetely get married with uzbek girl. They are the best for us, my long experience proved that:)

hehe..Don Juan ismi jismiga mos. Qizlarni boshini aylantirib yuribman deng...Ha mayli meshat bermaylik ;) Nuu bu man uchun emas

Alpomishjon;)
Gapizga qo'shilaman o'zbek qizlarini yahshi taraflari ham bor yomonlari ham bor. Lekin mana shunday yahshi qizlar ko'p bo'lgan ulkada yashab turib ham "yomon" (no offense girls - yigitlar ham oq qorasi bor ;)) qizlarga uylanganlar bor. Endi buni bilishgmagan bo'lishsa kerak, chunki sevgining ko'zi ko'r bo'ladi deyishadiku. Demoqchimanki qatta bo'sayam , hali go'dak chaqaloqni qornidaligida peshonasiga qanday hotin nasib qilishi yozib qoyilgan, uni yakka Allohning o'zi biladi. Lekin bolakay ham anovilardan emas, hamma narsani tarojini pallasiga qo'yib emosiyalarga berilmasdan, kallani ishlatib bir qarorga kelish kerak. Sizlarning fikrlaringizdan shunday hulosaga keldi bolakay. A poka pojivem uvidem.

No skazke eshe ne kones....
"Skazka to be continued..." :):):)

[Vatandosh]

Vot ya zhenilsya na amerikanku,, i zhivu tut pochti 3 goda kak permenant resident of USA,,, I think, we are doing good...
member of
uzbek community in America

[Dave]

Vatandosh, poprosi ee chtob ona tebe sdelala nashe nacionalnoe blyudo na vse 100%, i podala chayu, kak delayut nashi devushki! vot tak! :) odna iz samyx yarkix storon nashey nacii!!! esli kto ne soglasen, I'll nuke him/her!!!!! :(



P.S. :)

[muk14]

qoravoylar haqida nima deslar???

[Mimohodom]

Smotryu: 25 replies... ne smog proyti mimo...

Sozdali ooochen' umniy komp, kotoriy mojet otvechat' na lyubiye voprosi... U kompyutera sprosili: "Mojno li vipit' yadu?". Komp otvetil: "Mojno!".

Tak chto ya ne ponimayu gde tut sobaka zarita? Mojno li jenitsya? Mojno! A vse ostalnoye BS.

;)

[ShumBola]

Eee Dave, kto kak, agar chindan ham sevsa yotgan joyizga ham kerak bo'lsa issiqqina nonushtani tayorlab olib keladi. Agar va yana bir marta agar SEVSA, bo'masam...o'ziz bilasiz kinolarda qanaqa bo'sa (toyest "stuck up", "selfish", "likkillab qolgan" ;)) o'shana bo'lib yuraveradi. Shuning uchun menimcha o'sha bolakay qizni sinashi kerak menimcha, endi unisini sizlardan eshitamiza qanaqib sinash to'g'risida :):):) eh, attang, qizlar ham eshitishadi de

Uhti, mana sizga jivushiy primer. Vatandosh, nu munosobatila qanaqa o'zbek er-hotinlarining munosobatiga solishtirganda?
Qo'pol tuyulishi mumkin, lekin manga juda ham qiziqvomman de (I know curiosity killed the cat;)) Masalan hmm...qanaqib tushuntirsam ekan firkrimni...nu O'zbek ayoli bilan solishtirganda, mana siz uylangan erkak sifatida qanday ustunlik tomonlari va qanday yetishmovchiliklari bor deb o'ylaysiz???
Vatandosh aka, man buni amerikaliklarni past ga urish uchun so'rayotganim yoq, aslo. Hammani ham, mening ham,ana uning ham :) boshqalarni ham kamchiligi bor. Lekin hamma ham uni ochiqdan ochiq tan olmiydi. Chunki hammaga o'ziniki oy bo'lib ko'rinadi degan ekan Afandi ;) Shuning uchun iltimos Vatandosh sifatida, hamda aka ukaga gaplashgani kabi..ochiqcha gaplashsak. Va mana shu amerikalik kelin hamda o'zbek kelinning kamchilik va ustunliklarini yana "o'z" dunyoqarishizdan yozib yuborsangiz. Juda ham minnatdor bo'laman.

Ha, aytganday Dave akamizdan hafa bo'men, shunaqa deb hazil qilib turadilar ;)
Dave I owe you a beer bro :):):) You are the MAN!!!

PS: HOW CAN A BOY TEST IF THE GIRL REALLY LOVES THE BOY OR IS IT JUST "CALF LOVE"???
WHAT DO YOU THINK GUYS??? WELL GALS TOO :)

[ShumBola]

Hahahaha...
Ehh..Mimohodom, chelovek ne mojet smotret na veshi ili daje prinimat resheniya kak mimohodom...kak papolo. Ya b hotel dobavit chto "Jizn ne prosta kak mashina", u nas yest bolshe problem chem mi zaprogrammirovali v nash komputer;) A sobaka zarita za uglom okolo kommercheskoy budki okolo staroy shkoli okolo....etc life is like that goes on...and gets complicated.
If life was that easy:)We wouldn't have had this Message Board where we'd ask for the ideas of others, and secondly we'd all have the same responses...but since we are humans..We differ..that's the way it goes :)

Mayli mavzudan chalg'idim biroz..

Muk14, wow, qoravoylar degin ;) why not when "oqquloqlar"ga uylanishvotganda. Hudo oldida odamlar rangiga yoki chiroyiga qarab turishmidi, shuning uchun. Bahtizni bersin bro, eng hayirlisi bo'lsin. Hudo Taolo bizlar uchun eng maqulini biladi. Haraqat qiling faqat :)

[Vatandosh]

Hey Dave!
whas up bro? First of all, my wife is uzbek girl, but she was born in America, her ancestor arrived here a long time ago... so I don`t have problem ...................
you see here is what happened......

thanks for consern ..
take care

[ShumBola]

Vatandosh...
Bizlar bilan hayotiy tajribalariz bilan bo'lishasizmi okahon? Biz juda ham hursand bo'lardik???? ..Agar hohlasez albatta...

Mayli kutib qolamiz javoblarizni :)

[Dave]

Vatandosh, glad for ya man!!! :) good shot!

[InKo]

Elmurod uka qaleysan?

PS: HOW CAN A BOY TEST IF THE GIRL REALLY LOVES THE BOY OR IS IT JUST "CALF LOVE"???
WHAT DO YOU THINK GUYS??? WELL GALS TOO
Beryosh Romashku i nachinaesh' rvat' lepestki "LYUBIT'","NE LYUBIT'","LYUBIT'",
"NE LYUBIT'","LYUBIT'","NE LYUBIT'","LYUBIT'","NE LYUBIT'".......... :)
A esli seryozno to sprashivaetsa zachem? TEST eto nedoverie!
Mostly it's impossible to check out. Because woman can make man believe her if she wants. But man can make woman love him if he wants. But one should remember to avoid disaster - love is so inconstant.

Take Care Shumik

[Student]

i thinks german girls are cool, very good shape, very disciplined and very correct. Americans are fet, UKs sux, asians jp, koreans sec. class, asian culture is culture for slaves.

Uzbek girls... I don't know, had no good expierience, maybe they cook, clean well, and bear many kids, I don't know.

But i gotta say merriege tarditions - living with parents and serving them like slaves sucks!

[Freestyler]

Have had a chance to meet a few german dirls. Since then have been wondering what was so attractive about them. There is certainly something about them.
Na fone amerikanok, anglichanok i francujenok yavno viigrivayut.
Smart, intelligent, independant, elegant, cool (not cold), hardworking, modest - these are only a few good adjectives to describe them.
Are they all like that in Germany?

[sExpert]

PS: HOW CAN A BOY TEST IF THE GIRL REALLY LOVES THE BOY OR IS IT JUST "CALF LOVE"???
WHAT DO YOU THINK GUYS??? WELL GALS TOO

Tajribamdan o'tgan bitta usul bor. Koroche, sevgan odamini hamma gapiga ishonadi, biroq o'sha gapni boshqa odam aytsa ishonmasligi mumkin edi. Uni sevganidan, haddan tashqari ishonganidan hamma gapini analizsiz qabul qiladi.
Simple test: Tell her something which is pretty much obviously a lie.
If she doesn't ask more additional questions and believes immediatly, you can be sure something is going on.

[ShumBola]

Inko:
"NE LYUBIT'","LYUBIT'","NE LYUBIT'","LYUBIT'","NE LYUBIT'"..........

..mdaa Inko togda nasvete voobshe svetov ne osttanetsya;)

A esli seryozno to sprashivaetsa zachem? TEST eto nedoverie!
Mostly it's impossible to check out. Because woman can make man believe her if she wants. But man can make woman love him if he wants. But one should remember to avoid disaster - love is so inconstant.

Inko gapizga qisman qo'shilaman, lekin falokatni biz ojiz bandalar qayerdan ham ko'ra olardik. Ham uning ustiga menimcha test ishonchni yanada ham mustahkamlaydi, agar doimiy test qilib borilsa...Chunki "reliabiity is the constancy of the tests". Yani demoqchimanki bir marta sinab, natijasi ko'ngildaka bo'lmasa eeh sevmas ekan deb hulosa chiqarishga shoshilmaslik kerak i viseversa (hamda aksincha) Noumid shayton deganlar. Biz esa har doim umid qilamiz, lekin g'ira shira bo'lsa ham azgina gumon doim ichimizda bo'ladi, va gumondan qutulish uchun...sinash kerak deb o'ylayman. Tag'in bilmadim oilali bola chaqali okalarimiza boshqacha o'ylashlari mumkin...:)

Inko Shakespeardan ham bunaqa dono so'zlar chiqmagan. "Lyubit ne Lyubit??? Vot eto yest i vopros... :):D:)"

Student:
Tog'ri hamma halqda ham o'ziga yarasha ustunliklari hamda kamchiliklari bor. Bularni ko'ra olganlar albatta to'g'ri tanlov qilishga muvaffaq bo'ladilar deb o'ylayman. Lekin bir millatga yot bo'lgan bir hislatni uyg'otish mumkin, albatti ask millatdaka yuqori darajada bo'lmidiku, lekin iloji bor. Yani demoqchimanki Amerikalikni ham qozon-tovoq, supur sidir, kir-pir, bola chaqa, choy poy, qaynona-qaynota, challarimiye :) etc..gapirsa tugamidi..bechora o'zbek hotinini boshi ishdan chiqmidi. Lekin agar o'zbek hotini 21 asr bo'sag'asida, Amerikada yashayotgan bo'lsa shundaham qo'liga supurgi olib uyni supursin deysizmi, burchakda Pilesos turganda??? (o'zbeklarni supurgisini to'pib bo'lmidi:))
Yoki idish tovoqni bittalab nozik qo'llari ishqalaaab ishqalaaab yuvsinmi?:) Yoki bo'masam kirlarni ham to'g'oraga solib, oqarmasa..tag'in qaynatib ham yuvsinmi???
Demoqchimanki...amerikaliklar ham bir paytlar o'zbeklardan kam ish qilmagan balkim ulardan ham ortiq qilgandir...bundan aaaancha yil muqaddam :) Lekin buni tarih deganlar, tehnika rivojlanyapti, madaniyat ham o'zgaryapti, va uning to'sib bo'lmaydi.

Keyin "Dadasi Choiiii Ichiluuuu :)" bilan "Honeeey, would you like to have some hot "ko'k choy" ah?" farqi menimcha uncha ko'tta emas :)

sEXPERT:
..wahahah...that's a GOOD ONE. Like tell her that you been to the MOON, and see how she reacts?;) Good idea, i'll the "bolakay" to test it :)


PS: qolgani sizlarga havolar. Bu mavzu to'g'risida hamma har hil oyladi, unisi aniq balkim yechimi ham ko'pdir. Nu bolakay poka chto arqonni uzun tashlab qoyayapti, vaqt ko'rsadi, balkim kelajakda Vatandoshga o'hshab bir o'zbechkani sevib qolar...kim biladi deysiz.. uzr hamma yoq sariq kallardan to'lib ketgani uchun

[Jujarito]

sure!

[umaus]

Helloooo Shum, bro Qaleee, Salom BCEM , PLEASE READ, specially STUDENT and you Shum :)
Ya viju tvoi topic intrested many people!!! :)
Tak vot opyat, After I read all of the messages ne lenyas :) I still think that U will most probbaly regret that you married and American. I repeat again MOST probably. I am not saying 100%, anything can happen in life. You have here another person who experienced (DonJuan),

As Samjar said:
Look, Shumbola, follow your heart, man!
The best advice: BE YOURSELF!
The worst advice: BE YOURSELF!
Odamni diliga quloq solishi kerak

Ofcourse, u have to listen to yourself, as I said before it up to you to decide, nobody, or atleast I am not saying that u cant marry. U have to decide. But You all should agree that Your Heart and feelings can be wrong, u have to listen to your heart but u also have to come up
with a conlclusion, bassiacally u have to use your head too, not only your heart, U know people say that YOU are blind when you are in LOVE (i understand you) And you listen to your heart only and thats when most people make mistakes. THey only listen to the heart but the BRAIN they got. Therefore, just listen first to your heart and then try to throw away your feelings and think about it.

Shumboala
"Hech qachon, hech qayerda yozib qo'ymagan chto O'zbek yigitini bahti o'zbek qizi bo'ladi deb. Biz insonlar hech qachon bila olmaymiz 100% kim bizning bahtimiz."

And again, ofcourse Shum, No body said that Uzbek guy is happy with only Uzbek girls. But you know Uzbek guy and UZbek girl, have the same language, same mentalities, They, both, are most probably will understand each other more then UZbek Guy with any other Girl (not Uzbek), I hope u know what I mean. I mean, this girl will need your Mothers blessings, not only your mothers, but also as in Uzbek families your Grandmothers and many other people. I mean, I bet you are going to miss one day, And UZbek Girl as Dave said pouring TEA for you and your family. I am telling , if you EVER make an Amercan girl to do that, it is still not going to be the same as an Uzbek girl,
Shumbola: "Keyin "Dadasi Choiiii Ichiluuuu " bilan "Honeeey, would you like to have some hot "ko'k choy" ah?" farqi menimcha uncha ko'tta emas"-- I think there is a difference, think about it. It is not the same. THere is a difference in inner feelings of an Uzbek girl pouring TEA and inner feeelings of an American girl pouring tea to you or your mother.

To Vatandosh:
Your situation is I think a bit different, I am really happy you guys are doing good, But Your wife is UZbek, she has Uzbek parents, who were grown up in UZbekistan, so she knows what it is. And what Shum is talking about is an American/whoeveer that has nothing to do with Uzbeks.

To Mimohodom: "Sozdali ooochen' umniy komp, kotoriy mojet otvechat' na lyubiye voprosi... U kompyutera sprosili: "Mojno li vipit' yadu?". Komp otvetil: "Mojno!".
---I dont agree with you at all, Thats "WRONG"- Shum, I wouldnt listen to that
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And FINALLY, I get to the most important one!!! I donno, why nobody commented on this one, BUT THIS ONE I THINK IS COMPLETELY WRONG WAY of THINKING and there is a simple answer to that.
This is abou what STUDENT wrote:
"I thinks german girls are cool, very good shape, very disciplined and very correct. Americans are fet, UKs sux, asians jp, koreans sec. class, asian culture is culture for slaves.
Uzbek girls... I don't know, had no good expierience, maybe they cook, clean well, and bear many kids, I don't know.
But i gotta say merriege tarditions - living with parents and serving them like slaves sucks!"
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OK Man, u r wrong, u know why?? Well, first of all, YOU can not judge any nation, v Kajdoi Nazii est plohie i horoshie cherti. Therefore, you can not say "german girls are cool,Americans are fet, UKs sux, asians jp, koreans sec. class, asian culture is culture for slaves. Man there are all different, and we are not Comparing the girls here, And We are not saying that Uzbek girls are the best, What I am saying is that UZbek girl is the best choice for an Uzbek guy!!! SECOND:
You say - " asian culture is culture for slaves!!.Uzbek girls... I don't know, had no good expierience, maybe they cook, clean well, and bear many kids, I don't know.But i gotta say merriege tarditions - living with parents and serving them like slaves sucks"

Man who told you that they are slave or what made you think so, YES they cook, they clean well and bear many kids AND they are NOT serving parents like SLAVES!!!! It has nothing to do with slavary, You know what UZBEKISTAN was very famous at, IT WAS FAMOUS AT RESPECT for OLDER. RESPECT is THE most important charcteristic of an UZBEK. And that is WHAT it is all about, "RESPECT". It has nothing to do with slaves. They serve their mothers, parents because they RESPECT them. How could you even think about slavary. One question for you STUDENT - "Are you Uzbek", and if you are shame on you, because you thought that way. Well, thinkof it again.!!!

Aighttt, finally I am finished :))
Shunaka Shumbola aka :)), Ya skazal "prodoljenie sleduet" - Vot tebe prodolhjenie
And again Shumbola, as I said before, What ever your decission will be, I hope for the BEST
All the BEST to you bro.
'To be continued...' :)

[M.Ziyaev]

!!!!!!! !!!!! !!!!!!
(dumayu ponyali?)

[Mrs. Pachino]

Shumbola, don't listen to the advices of others, listen to your heart. It will tell you which way you should go. No one is insured against making mistakes, and sometimes in life you have to take on a great risk. But at the end it is all worth it, even if it makes you realize that you were wrong. Because that is the way you LIVE your life, and that is the way you LEARN.
I am not telling you to play this game when choosing whether to marry or not, not at all.
But I would strongly suggest that you stop paying attention or listening to others, when I think you already have an answer to your question, deep down inside of you. If you are in love with the girl who is American or of some other nationality, and you won't marry her just because of the traditions, fond Umid, and other circumstances, I'd say .. you are a fool.
Sorry for being so frank, but I learned that it is better to make a mistake rather than wonder your whole life what would happen if you would actually do it. I wish you good luck, I am absolutely positive you will make the best decision. Follow your heart, and you will see where it will bring you.

regards

[Freestyler]

Pryam kak v pesenke: "Listen to your heart..." by Roxette

[ShumBola]

Hey guys,
I'd really like to thank all of you who've taken part in this discussion and commented on this issue...VSEM VSEM Kattakon RAHMAT!!!
:)

Aftell long time of discussion and pondering over this matter i've come to the decision:
"I will simple FOLLOW my HEART"
I think this is the wisest and best solution to this problem.And I'll just let the TIME flow by and SEE how things will turn out in the future. Who knows maybe maybe that uzbek guy will make an excellent couple with that american girl after all...or maybe he'll meet some uzbek girl down along the road and end up marryig her and having a happy marriage...

Time will show...Pojivem Uvidem. Nu a na svadbu vsem dobro pajalovat. To'yhonaning to'ri Umidchilarga :) Umid aka, hohlasangiz kuyov jo'ra bo'linshingiz mumkin;)

Dumayu vremya chtob zakrit nashu skazku i jdat kogda pridyot etot moment kogda parenyok budet delat okonchatelnoye resheniye...Amerikanka ili Uzbekchka?:)

Mrs Pacino, thank you very much for your sound and wise advise I'll always keep that in mind.

Umaus, I do agree with your point, I honestly do, but "bolakay" is way too deep in the whirlpool of LOVE;) only time will show what he'll do...

KONES FILMA.

PS: FOLLOW YOURHEART, BE YOURSELF.

[Mrs. Pachino]

:)

[something else]

"KONES FILMA.
PS: FOLLOW YOURHEART, BE YOURSELF."
AND DRINK SPRITE!

[Umka]

:p

BUBU :)

[ShumBola]

Yuragingga Ishon, Hayotingni O'zing Hal Qil!!!

Prodoljeniye sleduyet....tan tan tadaaaaan :)

PS: Stay tuned for the next Episode of "CAN UZBEK MARRY AMERICAN" "R" Children below 18 stronly cautioned to watch with parents' content ;)

[Bond, James Bond]

Hey guys, vy uje za**ali svoimi ob"jasneniyami v ljubvi, chto eto, kak eto, kogda eto, zachem eto ...
koroche, shumbola idi podrochi i vse proydet! :)
nadeus na etom vy zakonchite.

[ShumBola]

Bond, kakoyje vi UMNIK..da Great Britain ne zrya tratit beshenniye dengi na MI5;)

Esli eto vas za**balo,to mne jal:) smogli voobshe ne chitat ili prosto predvaritsya chto ne videli;)

Kstati mi uje davno zakonchili, udivlyon pochemuto chto vas ob etom ne informirovali:) ...ito nash SNB toje bistree rabotaet

po vishe posmotrite...tam s bolshimi bukvami napisano ....ko'rga hassadak qilib (j/k):D

[Smartass]

Here is an address of James Bond From England, if you, Shumbola, wanna go ahead and beat the shit out of his head. I wouldn't stand that :).

Tera-Byte Online Services (NETBLK-TERA-BYTE-1)
Suite 900, CN Tower, 10004-104 Ave
Edmonton, AB T5J0K1
CA
IP: 216.234.161.71

[Smartass]

Sorry, Shumbola, it was actually, Edmonton, Canada. It is much closer to you now. Oh, shit, I couldn't let him say that, I would go and beat his ass down right away :)
Smartass

[SUN6500]

Everything boils down to a cultural acceptance of both parties. For instance, is a forecoming bride "OK" with a notion that to-be-husband's parent's will be visiting them almost once a year, staying about a month in their house? That prospecting husband's sister or a brother will also be visiting them as well contributing to a traffic in the house not mentioning other relatives with a "vision of striking a big business in US" ?? Or will she put down her demands asking for "whole attention" and nothing less, comprising her future husband's ability to adhere the conventions he always lived by? Now, I had an American girlfriend, so by and large, according to my experience it was a bit strange to observe their straightforward selfishness and inability to understand the terms of who we are. Cultural acceptance and understanding, will be the major stonehold in this relationship unless she (the other agreeing party) understands all the intricacies of this specific relationship. In case of Japanese or any oriental women I think they are MUCH closer to our culture and share similarities, therefore their social adaption should not pose any problems. Bottom line, East-West relationship: traditions, conventions, religion.

[Smartass]

Nice theoretical approach to resolving this issue, also, it seems some wordy and scientific. I guess you must be majoring/must have majored in Liberal Arts at your school in LA. Nevertheless, you made a good judgement on tackling on Shubola's problem.

[Duma]

Shumbola., ee uylanib qo'ya qolmaisizmi endi? Arzimagan narsayu. Jaa yoqmasa qo'liga pattasini to'tqazib yuborasiz, i vassalom ! Menga qolsa Amerikada bitta, O'zbekistonda yana bitta hotinlik bo'lvolardim. Shundayam ustiga yana ikkita hotun olishga haqqim bor.
Eeeh.. Shuyam muammo bo'ptiyu. Hammani boshini qotirib..
:)

[Echo]

DUMA ---> Boplapsan, bro! lol

Bunday qarasalaring, hammamiz BITTA planetada yashaymiz. Agar ikkala PARTNER ham shuni PHILOSOPHICALLY tagiga yetib borsa---> NO problem bo'ladi. Ikkalasi ham man DIFFERENTman deyaversa, unda ana sanga deb hech narsa ishla olmaydi. CONSENSUS, bolla, hamma gap consensusda!

[SUN6500]

To Smartass:

Thank you for your comments. Few "gotchas":

Nice detective method on "majoring/must have majored in Liberal Arts"
based on my response, but sorry to disappoint, I am not BA major.

As far as "...at your school in LA," good use of 'nslookup' but it shows only whom does the circuit belong and not where it terminates. Am I in LA ... ;) I would leave it up to you ;)

[Shumbola]

Voy voo...Ya dumalto chto mi uje officialno zakrili topic??? Kajetsya ya oshibsya :)

Smartass, thanks for advise but I don't want to disappont millions of fans of American fans of James Bond by terminating him with a Satellite ;) nu spasibo za sovet. K stati ya ne jivu blizko k Kanade.

Sun6500:
"Cultural acceptance and understanding, will be the major stonehold in
this relationship unless she (the other agreeing party) understands all the intricacies of this specific
relationship."
Eto kak ras to chto ya imel ya hotel skazat, no vi smogli virazit eto v bukvalno odnom predlojeniye. Awesome!!!

Duma:
eee..o'zbekchilikka yarashmidi bu bratan. Bu yog'da bitta hotining, o'tta bitta hotining...bu faqatgina ana u James Bond'ga yarashadi..har qadamda bittasi bilan yotib chiqadi;) (I don't mean our Bond) a tak it sounds really intriguing and charming...no ne dlya uzbekov

mdaa...daje ne znayu kak zakonchit, baribir kto to zaydyot i skajet chtoto :) eh Nu ladno...

CHEERS AND OMAD VSEM!!!

[MegaZ]

Ooo...Smartass :)
Nauchilsya pol'zovat'sya nslookup i Neotrace ili whatever.
Krutoy...

[Ravil]

Salom Shumbolla,

I didn't have time to read everything but would like to give you some feedback on this issue.

In my opinion, first thing you should ahve done is to talk to your parents and relatives ( we 've got pretty extended family relationships, your desicions will affect your relatives too). In the conditions on our mahalla you may also need the aggrement of your neighbors :) anyway, i'd get the blessing of my parents first. if so, may God make your marriage happy and joyful.

Take care,

Ravil

[Shumbola]

Ravil rahmat maslahatiz uchun bro...
A tak ota onam'ga namek qilgandim ular aytishdiki: "O'g'lim qayerdan yok kim bo'lishidan qat'iy nazar bahtingni bersin" tamom. Bilamam complexitilar bor..lekin uni vaqt ko'rsatadi. O'zbekchlikni qabul qila olsa bas :):):)

[ELBRUS]

Shum bola bilasanmi sanga juda qiyin.
man sanga bitta primer aytaman. mani togam anuv student maqtagan Nemkaga uylangan germaniyaga kelib 2 yashagan bir paytlar. Unda u juda aqqli va maqsad yulida kuchli bulgan karoche Sovetni zamonida bu masalani hal qilgan tugri juda qiyin bulgan unga (ota-ona....USSR laws..)
10-15 yil birga yashagan on seychas sojelet uzbek qizga uylanmaganiga (Yaqinda uylandi eski bilan ajrashib) urtoqlaridan ajralib qolgan chunki qandaydir kurinmas barer borde. Bu barerni togamni pullari ham boshqa usnliklari ham olib tashlolmaydi, Uzbekni quvonchi bulgan Farzand kamoli unda yoq.:(
But agar ushanda nemkaga uylanmaganda butun umr sojelet qilardi usha nemkani eslab manimcha:)
tak shumbola chuqur chuqur uyla faqatgina hozirgi barerlarni emas 15-20 yillik barerlarni ham uylashing shart ato unda juda-juda kech buladi ... qolaversa qonimizda UZBEK degan millat qoni bor uni sof saqlash kerakmikin....
lekin qurg'ur LOVE borda LOVE bor:)))

[ELBRUS]

shumbola san ahir shumbolaku 2taga(bitta uzb1ta amer) nima deysan islomda mumkinku?:)
faqat ikkovini ham kundirish kerek. Uzbek qizni eplashing mumkin chunki ular sodda:)
ammo amerikankani bunga bilmadim:(
anyway uylab kursang buladi.

[ShumBola]

da??? Yog'ey...tog'ri ikkitasini ammalasa bo'ladi lekin ortiqcha bosh og'riqku, hali bunisiga sovg'a, hali unisiga sovg'a ;) qarabsanki kashalekda pul qolmidi
Manga bittasi ham yetadi ELBRUS, ha hayotiy misoling uchun rahmat, men ham shunga o'hshashroq missollarni eshitgandim, bazilar bahtli bo'lib ketishgan bazilari sening tog'angning (afsuski) ahvoliga tushishgan...
ha...bir narsa deb bo'lmaydi..hali beri uydagilarning uylantirish niyatlari yoq, poka gudet qilib turamiza...

ShUmBoLa

[Uylangan]

Uyoq buyog'ini quylaring,
Uylanganlaringdan keyin bilasanlar,
A LABBAY? ;)

[Pakhtakor]

Hey bollar, kimki Amerikankalarga uylansa uylanversinu lekin bir narsani esidan chiqarmasin; Amerikankalarning 99.99% 'qiz' emas, bu bilan nima demaqchiligimni uylanaman deb yurganlar yahshi tushunsa kerak. Agar tushunmasa uylanishga hali ancha yoshlik qiladi.

Take ccare!

[ShumBola]

erh... virginity??? ;)

[Cute]

Prosto ne stoit

[Kidding]

Prosto ne stoit ili prosto ne stoit? :) :) :)

[Cute]

Hahaha, znal chto obyazatelno kto nibud...

[friendly]

ShumBola and all others,

Mrs. Pachinoning gapi to'gridek, yani " follow yr heart", ammo men o'tgan hafta turmush qurish
to'g'risidagi kitobni topib o'qidim va shularni bu erda yozishim m-n:
"sevganning ko'zi ko'r - qiz/yigit haqida uning yaqinlari ham ko'rib-surishtirib fikr bildirishlari k-k ekan; hatto oldin ota-ona b-n qiz/yigitni tanishtirish ham maslahat berilgan. Qizga faqat to'rt narsasi uchun uylaniladi: boyligi, go'zalligi, nasli-nasabi (oila reputaziasi, vhz) va dini uchun; dini uchun uylanish maslahat beriladi."
O'zimdan bir narsa qo'shadigan bo'lsam, turmush o'rtog'ini odam qaerda uchratishini hech kim aytolmaydi - bu nasib ishi va buni vaqt ko'rsatadi. Turmush qurish qochib ketmaydi, hamma bilishi kerak-ki, erkak ayol uchun va ayol erkak uchun yaratilgan. Shunday ekan odam sabrli va
o'z nomus va iffatini saqlashi k-k. Sharoit bo'lsa turmush qurishi k-k ( agar sabr qila olmasa umuman turmush qurish farz). Ammo sevgi degan narsa bor va bu ham bir ne'mat - buning qadriga borish kerak; ammo lekin har doimgidek bu masalada ham odam hushyor bo'lishi k-k.
Er va hotinning bir-birini tushunishi juda muhim va shuning uchun o'z qabilasidan (o'z yurtidan, dinidan) uylangan afzalroq deb o'ylayman ... Yana ham ishongan va/yoki yaqinlari b-n
maslahatli qilinishi k-k bo'lgan ish bu. Qanday bo'lsa ham hayrli bo'lsin.

[Cute]

Follow your mind, heart gives blood to your brain...

[hehe]

It's always better to choose a virgin in this kind of situations, because if she has a habit to have a sex without marrige, it will be very difficult to change her. She would simply continue her customs, because she used to do so. If you want to live with this kind habits, than would you be able not to kill her, when once you find her with a stranger in your bed? Besides it, there might be some problems in your marrage, which require proper solutions. If she can have a sex aside, she might prefer to "relax" with someone else, rather than to solve this problems. Besides it, if you marry a virgin, you have a garantee from many illnesses. So, go for virgins !!!!!! :)
This was my advise.
Thanks,
hehe. :)

[ShumBola]

Voy DonJuan eyy :)
Of course, virgins...ya voobshe daje ne dumal o devis bez virginity. Sevsa ham :) man baribir o'zimga ep bilmasdim...O'zbekchilik, musulmonchilik deganday....
A tak u bolakay sevib qolgan qiz pokiza hamda bokira po uzbekskim standartam...(never kissed etc);) I guess Bolakay found the right girl...but we'll see how thing will proceed further along...
I'm following my Brains, and listenning to my Heart :):):)

[Kroka W. Bush]

Mlya vot vy nudnie... da jenis na kom hochesh - i ostav vseh v pokoe...

[JUST]

ShumBola

agar haqiqatdan sevsang va qiz aytganingdek zor bosa:

* avvalo yahshilab oyla, uylanish bu jiddiy masala, Umausning gapiga qoshilaman, butun umring shunga bogliq bolib qoladi.
* ota-onangni rozi qil
* uylanvotganda qizni musulmon qil
* nikoh bilan uylan
* ZAGSdan ham otib qoy :)


I wish you ALL THE BEST !!!

JUST ;)

[hehe]

If she is pokiza, never kissed + AMERICAN (!), then she is UNIQUE! Don't loose your chance and get married right now!:)
A tak, this is just my advise. GOOD LUCK to you, Shumbola!!
With great Respect,
hehe. :)

[Davito]

Armyanskoe radio sprashivayut:
- Mojno li iznasilovat devushku na Krasnoy ploshadi?

Armyanskoe radio otvechaet:
- Nel'zya, tak kak vse sovetami budut meshat!

Shum, smotri s moim reply ty uje 75 replies poluchil :) mojet vse taki sam reshish che delat'?
Tebe zdes takie replies dali po prikolu, navernoe nujno ves topic na Funny Corner move sdelat' a eshe luchshe k yaponcam ili francuzam, ne to odni tam voshe odichali :), voshe topicov net! :( poluchat xot' ne mnogo clicks. :)

udachi.


me.

[Alex]

Nadoeli, tot kto pribavit noviy message k etomy tot p..... hehehe

[BOBOY]

to Shumbola:

"Ular har safar telefonda gaplashishganda soatlab gaplashishardi va hech qachon zerikishmadi. Lekin ular albatta ularni kelajakda nima kutayotganidan habarlari yoq edi...."

Please, let me know what operator's services they were enjoying off. Seems to be offering very good rates,

thanks..
Avaz

:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

[Knyaginya]

Assalom Aleykum Shumbola!

Savolingizga javob berish onson emas.Man sizni tarihingizni bilaman, balkim shuning uchun sizni bu savol bir qiyin ahvolga quyvotgandur,
balkim shuning uchun sizga bizlardan maslahat kerakdur.
Har bir inson, bir insonni jonidan sevishi mumkin lekin turmush qurish va shu tanlagan inson bilan bir umir yashab utish bu bir hazil gap emas.

Kajdiy chelovek v prave rasprijatsya so svoey jiznyu tak kak on jelaet i tak je sozdavat semyu s tem chelovekom ne smotrya ot nasionalnsti.Ne zabivayte odnu vech, mi uzbeki,mi ne nasionalisti no nash mentalitet, nasha kultura,nash obichay otlichaetsya ot
drugih nasionalnostey kak i drugie.Nesmotrya na to chto mi mojem jit, uchitsya zarubejom i bit vse storone razviti mi priderjivaemsya nashey kulture.
No glavnoe vo vsom etom voznikaet vopros, jenivshis` na inostranke (amerikanke)po lubvi, budet li ona vam predanna vsyu jizn? Budet li ona s vami v trudnuyu minutu vashey jizni kogda vi poteraete vso: dom, mashinu,rabotu? (ved raznoe bivaet v jizni) eto ne iskluchenno i potom ni kakaya vasha bolshaya lubov ey ne nujna budet i tak je vi, a potomuchto amerikanki ne privikli k trudnostyam jizni.Tolko lish Blagorodniy chelovek, ponimayuchiy vas ot odnogo vzglyada i na samom dele lubyachiy ot chistogo serdsa budet s vami v holode i v golode!
Govorit mojno mnogo, no kajdiy chelovek sam stroit svoyu jizn i svoyu semyu.Please rebyata ne letayte v oblakah ot lubvi,lubite i trezvo rassujdayte.Jenites i sozdavayte krepkuyu zdorovuyu semyu a netu kotoraya razvalitsya cherez nekotoroe vremya.

Sincerely,
N.U.
USA.

[Admirallll]

Ehhh ... Shumbola !
odamno qon qilib yubordingku eyyyyy ....
uylsansang uylan ! bumasa chetga ot, uzim uylanaman !
XAXAXA :)

soonest weddings,
me

[kazraid@aol.com]

I think it would be almost impossible for an Uzbek man to be happily married to an American woman. Most Uzbek men are raised in a society where the men are the dominant partner in a marriage. In America the woman expects to be at a minimum an equal partner, and possibly even the dominant mate. The American woman expects the man to cook, clean, do laundry, watch the children, etc ... I am very happily married to an Uzbek woman and would never consider marrying an American woman. If you have any questions about American/Uzbek marriages feel free to email me at : kazraid@aol.com

Anthony

Bollar

Shumbolaga yozmayla. U yigit ohirgi postini 2000 yilda yozgan. Hozir u uylanib, bola chakali bolib, ushbu saytni allaqachon esdan shikargandur.

To Karzaid

It's not all doom and gloom as you descrive it.
Although employment among females is up, most of it comes from part-time, like a few hours per week, public and low end jobs.
Especially in countries where the childcare is still largely unavailable (such as suprisingly in US and UK), most of women, apart from high flying Ivy Leage types and underclass inner city minorities, are expected to look after the house, raise the children and behave like good middle-class Republicans.

Like in a popular song

I will do the laundry you will pay the bills.

[Delta]

well, i'm not sure if i will sound right, since i'm tired.. but bored :)

Shumik, if you want US residency & if you are sure she can go through that process with you...which will take i believe at least 2 years, then it's up to you.

If that is not the case, why would you marry american ? where our beloved girls need a guy like you. In addition, think about your parents too.

ALL of the below concerns only majority of Americans.
I believe after growing up in massive American brain wash process,

No American Girl can Undersand you and Read Your Mind and Support you Emotionally Like Your Own Uz-Girl does.
No American Woman Would be as Loyal as Uz-Girl would.
No American Woman would be your soul mate religiously as Uz-Girl would.

Overall, think if you will regret in a future that you married american.
No matter what, our nation pulls each other as one like a magnet, no matter where you are.
think if you can resist to that uz. magnetic field.

Plus, don't forget that Love is partially dependent on factors around us, it changes day and night.

may be sounded like lecturing, take this as what i think about this issue...or i was lecturing myself
------
oh, well i was just kidding :) no worries, why not marry her, if you don't like it you can always marry another one later :P

don't think i'm a two side person... as you guys know there are multiple solutions to any problem :)

~cheers

[Toshkent Girl in US]

Of course you can marry her! Who says you can't? Even if you are an Umidie, no contract in the world can prevent you from marrying someone. (If there is indeed such a clause in the Umid contract, which I doubt, it would be invalid, since Uzbek laws would override it.) Many people talk about cultural differences. That could be. However, often personal compatibility can mean much more than cultutral compatibility. You can learn another's culture, language, traditions, and religion, but you cannot learn love, respect, sense of humor, kindness, honesty. If you found what you want in a woman who happens to be an American, I say why not. However, I am assuming that her nationality is the only reason for your doubt and there aren't any other reasons.

From personal experience, I can tell you this. I married a foreigner and I can tell you 100% I couldn't be this happy with anyone else. My family was in shock at first, but I had to decide where my priorities were, and I was convinced ours was a love for life (after 5 years, I'm still sure of that). At risk of alienating my family, I didn't let go of my husband. Seeing how happy he makes me, they now adore him, accepting him as their own son. That's it, that's the question - do you make each other happy, and will you still do after 5, 10, 40 years?

Word of caution: divorce rate (as well as marital infidelity rate) among Americans is much higher than among Uzbeks; it's rare for American women to remain virgins until marring (this being a big issue for most Uzbek men); American women are much more independent than Uzbek women and won't play gender roles so easily; physical abuse against women is dealt with very seriously in America (I'm not saying all Uzbeks beat their wives, but a lot of them do and think it's normal); and the attitude toward Muslims (and foreigners in general) in America is not very rosy at the moment. If you think these factors won't be a problem for you, go ahead!

From the bottom of my heart, I wish you and your loved one all the best. It's a beautiful thing when two people are joined together by love.

[UZBEKKIZI]

"sevgi" deb hayotni barbod qilish [ham] mantiqqa to'g'ri kelmas... avvalo, u haqiqatan ham asl sevgimi yo'qmi buni anglab yetish zarur... keyinini ham biroz o'ylash kerak-da. bolalikning bir shirin tuyg'usi deb boshini berk ko'chaga olib kirish, albatta, yaxshi natijalar bermas... "keyingi pushmon o'zingga dushman" deyishadi...lekin, bu taqdir, faqat ollohga ayon... biroq, olloh insonga AQL/ONGni berib qo'ygan, qanday ish tutish o'zimizdan...

asosiy gapga o'tsam. fikri ojizimcha, amerikaliklar hech qachon o'zbek bo'la olmaydi. ayniqsa, ayollari. :) agar bo'lib qolsa mo'jiza! degan bo'lar edim. juda qiyin bo'ladi, juda. :) ular o'zbek qizlariday huquqlarini toptatib qo'yadiganlardan emas. buni o'zingiz ham juda yaxshi bilasizlar. ular qaynanani ishini qilib o'tirmaydi, kir-chirini yuvmaydi. BUNI FAQAT O'ZBEK AYOLI qiladi xolos. "buni unutmang" degan bo'lar edim o'sha yigitga. yana bir gapni aytsam, o'zbek yigiti ham chinakam amerikalik bo'la olmaydi, hech qachon! ich-ichida baribir O'ZBEK bo'lib qolaveradi (agar ruslashgan yoki evropalashgan oilada o'smagan bo'lsa, demoqchimanki haqiqiy o'zbek oilasida tarbiya topgan bola bo'lsa uning o'zgarishi juda qiyin, u faqat qo'g'irchoqdek "amerikalik" rol'ini o'ynashi mumkin xolos). o'zbek yigiti/qizi amerikalik bilan oila qurib, amerikada (yoki istalgan bir horijiy mamlakatda) qay darajada umrbod qolishni niyat qilgan bo'lmasin, kunlar kelib u baribir o'zligini qo'msaydi, vatanini so'ginadi.... gaplarim "patriotcha" tuyulishi tabiiy. lekin, nima demoqchi bo'layotganimni tushunasiz degan umiddaman.

yuqoridagi fikrlarim bilan "o'zbek yigiti/qizi Amerikalik bilan oila qura olmaydi" demoqchi emasman, aslo. biroq, hayotga haqiqat ko'zlari bilan qarash kerak demoqchiman. agar amerikalik, hoh erkak, hoh ayol bo'lsin, o'zbek/musulmon bo'lish niyati avvalo o'zida bo'lsa, hech kimning ra'yiga qaramay o'z hohishini bajaradi. agar ko'ngilda bo'lmasa, ming urinilmasin, hammasi befoyda...

bular shunchaki firklarim. tanqidlarni kurib qolaman.

hammaga baxt tilayman
rahmat

[Delta]

vah vahay uzbakizi :)


Just uylanmoqchimisan amerikankaga dostim ?
a tak toyga mersla mandan buladi gap yo :P

sevgi sevgi disila... qani uzi u :rolleyes:
shu disela dostlarim.. odami qoliga keyboard tushib qosa yozvurarkande :arrow:
keyboard janivoram sarg'ayib ketgandir..
allright back to work
ttyl

[Узбекйигити]

Шуни айтинг Узбеккизи!Ахир америкалик аел Сарбадорлар каби Ватан углонларини дунега келтира оладими? Факат Узбек аели бунга кодир.Тугри бизлардаям ачинарли холлар куп, масалан киз бола укишни тугатмасдан уйини совчилар босади.
Нима бусаям сизга койилман Узбеккизи. Шахарингизни емгирли хавосию, атрофингиздаги итларни акилаши узбеклигингизга заррача тасир кимапти.

[fox]

If she is pokiza, never kissed + AMERICAN (!), then she is UNIQUE!


vot eta fignya vsem i meshayet spokoyno jit'. Shum, ti je chital "O'tkan kunlar". Tam i opisivayetsya vse eti prepyatstviya, kotoriye prostavil sebe uzbekskiy narod. Samiy luchshiy sovet, kotoriy uje prozvuchal naverno, ne prosi sovetov po takim delam. Luchshe, postupay kak sam hochesh. Zabud' pro "soveti" drugih. U kajdogo svoya jizn', i kajdiy otvechayet tolko dlya sebya.

[spoon]

There will be no problem if you are:

Rich enough to pay all the expenses that will cost you during the marriage(like taking her home, giving her enaough money, raising children, buying a good house, buying her a car, etc)

[UZBEKKIZI]

Uzbek yigit,

"javob"ingiz uchun minnatdorman. lekin, boshqa "mayda-chuyda" kesatiqlaringizga bu yerda hech o'rin yo'q deb hisoblayman. qandaydir ma'lumotga ega ekanligingizni ko'rsatib qo'ymoqchi bo'layotgan bo'lsangiz buning ham hech zaruratligi yo'q, fikri ojizimcha.
bizlardagi achinarli hollar haqida aytib o'tibsiz. qani aytig-chi o'zingiz mazkur hollarni o'zgartirish haqida hech bosh qotirdingizmi? a?

komplement ichin tashakkur. ha aytganday, shahrimda yomg'ir ko'p yog'maydigan bo'lgan, boxabar qilib qo'yay. undan keyin atrofimda itlar borligini qayerdan bildingiz? mana shu eyrda biroz adashibsiz. 'profile'ga qaytadan qarangiz. ;)


rahmat

arzimaydi

[Lilo]

RE:CAN UZBEK MARRY AN AMERICAN???



We have already spoken about it, I ya tebe skaju. I mean vopervih, I hope for the best. I agree with BRATAN and all who say WHY NOT!! Ofcourse, kajdii iz nas sam viberaet svoi put, i ti konechno je mojesh jeniza na amerkanke. No budet li eto pravelnim shagom. Ya ne dumayu. konechno mojet povesti, ti mojesh i bit the lucky one. No ya dumau shto jenivshis na Amerikanke u tya vozniknut mnogo problem. Ya absolutno soglasen s MANOSHOI (we just have te same thoughts), no I have some more to add. Shum aka, I dont know about this American girl, but CAN u make her UZBEK And A Muslim. I think you cant, and she wouldnt want to. Again I donno her. OK lets say u marry her,And she tells you ok I will live with you I will try to become and follow uzbek traditions, but i am soo (won't say 100%) but I am soo sure that maybe like in 5 years, 6 years whenever, she will want to go back where she was born, she will want to do what her parents, her people do. Not what UZbeks do. I am sure, just put yourself in her position. U have to different mentalities. And u can not change that. UZBEK and American are two completely different persons. But now consider UZBEK girl, SHE (UZBEK GIRL) is the only one that will understand you, know what you are thinkin of, she will know exactly how to help you in bad times. Pover mne, ya ne govoru tebe shto UZBEK GIRLS ARE THE BEST ( UZB girls, dont take it worng <img src="Images/Happy.gif" border="0" alt="Happy Face"><!--e1--> Every nation has goods and bads), but UZBEK GIRLS are the BEST FOR UZBEK GUYS. AFTER YEARS, u will realize that. u will want to have an UZBEK girl, which will say, VOIIIII ADASIIIIIII,CHOI-POI ICHILUUUUUUU <img src="Images/Happy.gif" border="0" alt="Happy Face"><!--e1--> or what ever.
SO GOOD LUCK SHUM. I am nobody to tell what to do, but you know PROSTO SOVET(froma friend)
But its up to you.
Maybe it will work, and if it does, let me know <img src="Images/Happy.gif" border="0" alt="Happy Face"><!--e1-->
AIGHT GOOD LUCK
And I agree with MANOSHA <img src="Images/Happy.gif" border="0" alt="Happy Face"><!--e1-->[/quote]Salom Shum aka, yahshimisiz? About the story you told, I would recommend for every race to marry its own. But if you are a flexiable kind of person with a open mind and heart then go on ahead, nobody is stopping you. American girls are flexialbe open minded girls, BUT they are stuburn. They will change on you anytime, not all, but some or even MOST. The thing that supports their stuburness is the liberal country they group up in. They are encouraged to do mostly what they want. This doesn't just apply to american girls but to lots (maybe all) cocasian females in the world.
However, if the uzbek guy really knows this american girl and they have the same feelings and thoughts, May God Bless their marriage. Hope this uzbek guy finds the answer to his question. May God give him wisdom. ;)
Take care. ~New Comer~Lilo~
RE:CAN UZBEK MARRY AN AMERICAN???

[B-52]

CAN u make her UZBEK And A Muslim


What nationality or religion has to do with it ? We have 23+ million population of Uzbekistan, majority of which are Uzbek, and still have a high divorce rate. Yeah, yeah, there are significant economic implications to this trend, but not everything can attributed to this factor. I think as long as there is a mutual understanding, respect and of course 'le amour' it shouldn't matter what religion/nationality/race this person belongs. As far as " UZBEK GIRLS ARE THE BEST" statement, hmmm... Sure they're decent, but most of the are totally dependent on their husbands. They don't provide initiative, or pull together and whine a lot. Being submissive, doesn't meant that you shouldn't be working on your career and make something out of yourself instead of being your husbands 24/7 servants. (Ooouch, did I fire up a flame-bait ?!) Besides, once you get married to her, experience the wrath of your mother-in-law riding you like a sad Pakistanian donkey.

Cheers.

P.S. Sorry for the flame-bait, didn't intend to, but hopefully you guys will understand me correctly.

[Ziko]

Davayte rebyat, vse poydyom jenitsya na Americanok :D

[AmericanBoy]

yeaah I luv uzbek girls I wanna mary with some uzbek girls is there any one ...

Let's hear something from Shumbola..ohir oqibat uylanmoqchi bo'lgan uning sirli do'sti. Bu posting yozilganigaham 3 yil bo'lib qolibni. U bolakay qanday fikrlarda yurgan ekan...

BEST

[SmIlIk]

forgot to login :)

BEST,

SMILE

[Delta]

it's all about the money again!

I don't see any difference between uzbek/american/african/chinese ../ girls, since all change depending on environment they live.
So,
if you got money, go to africa or korea...or some other place and marry as many women/men as you wish. If you are muslim, can marry up to 5, but for a woman if she is muslim....he has to be muslim to marry her.
If you got the money, don't even worry about the consequnces of her actions or stupidity, since money will take care of her.. and she will be soft as pussy cat and be happy with you as long as you are man enough, to be able to show a little action at night or whenever.
If you don't have the money, marrying a foreigner is a catarstrophy...or even getting married to anyone may not end up well, since without the money you are not ready yet!
However, there is one good solution, which is marrying your computer, and make some money using it.
that is it folks :rolleyes:

[Monik]

Delta, opyat' money :evil:

[Royal]

Yahshi niyat yarim savings account degandek nimasi yomon ?

Delta, bular manimcha hasad qilishayapti. :)

[Free]

Amerikaliga uylanish yahshi niyat bulsa kerak :)

[CrazyDT]

However, there is one good solution, which is marrying your computer, and make some money using it.


Being a muslim, I wonder how many computers one can marry :?

[badbashara]

As many as you can provide with fast connection and updating them equally

[badbashara]

I think this all about marrying on status (green card, citizen ship…), which is meaning he cares about his future, which is leads to money, consequently it’s all about money.

[CrazyDT]

badbashara, your avatar 's reminded me this: http://www.intothematrix.com/ choose the second one.

But seriously, we, uzbeks are brainwashed with all the nonsense about not getting married non-uzbek.

Fact: In 2020, the probability that your children would engage with other nationals would be much higher. I think 5 fold. And what's the point of maintaining this pure uzbek blood stream, when we are descendants of thousands of other ethnicities? Give it up now! You would self deny just like I did in the past. If you're to be with someone that you think you'll be happy with then go for it! We are all humans! You will probably have a healthier relationship if you do with accordance what you want to, not as someone dictates you.

[Royal]

Evlasang qandini ur !! Agar ozbe bosa yana nur ustiga alo nur degan ekanlar !!!

[Amirsaid]

Salom bro

We have already spoken about it, I ya tebe skaju. I mean vopervih, I hope for the best. I agree with BRATAN and all who say WHY NOT!! Ofcourse, kajdii iz nas sam viberaet svoi put, i ti konechno je mojesh jeniza na amerkanke. No budet li eto pravelnim shagom. Ya ne dumayu. konechno mojet povesti, ti mojesh i bit the lucky one. No ya dumau shto jenivshis na Amerikanke u tya vozniknut mnogo problem. Ya absolutno soglasen s MANOSHOI (we just have te same thoughts), no I have some more to add. Shum aka, I dont know about this American girl, but CAN u make her UZBEK And A Muslim. I think you cant, and she wouldnt want to. Again I donno her. OK lets say u marry her,And she tells you ok I will live with you I will try to become and follow uzbek traditions, but i am soo (won't say 100%) but I am soo sure that maybe like in 5 years, 6 years whenever, she will want to go back where she was born, she will want to do what her parents, her people do. Not what UZbeks do. I am sure, just put yourself in her position. U have to different mentalities. And u can not change that. UZBEK and American are two completely different persons. But now consider UZBEK girl, SHE (UZBEK GIRL) is the only one that will understand you, know what you are thinkin of, she will know exactly how to help you in bad times. Pover mne, ya ne govoru tebe shto UZBEK GIRLS ARE THE BEST ( UZB girls, dont take it worng <img src="Images/Happy.gif" border="0" alt="Happy Face"><!--e1--> Every nation has goods and bads), but UZBEK GIRLS are the BEST FOR UZBEK GUYS. AFTER YEARS, u will realize that. u will want to have an UZBEK girl, which will say, VOIIIII ADASIIIIIII,CHOI-POI ICHILUUUUUUU <img src="Images/Happy.gif" border="0" alt="Happy Face"><!--e1--> or what ever.
SO GOOD LUCK SHUM. I am nobody to tell what to do, but you know PROSTO SOVET(froma friend)
But its up to you.
Maybe it will work, and if it does, let me know <img src="Images/Happy.gif" border="0" alt="Happy Face"><!--e1-->
AIGHT GOOD LUCK
And I agree with MANOSHA <img src="Images/Happy.gif" border="0" alt="Happy Face"><!--e1--> :shock: Izvenite Kakaya Amerikanka budet vihodit z muz za Uzbeka ili s Disabilities of she has uzbek parents

[BOBOY[]]

yeaah I luv uzbek girls I wanna mary with some uzbek girls is there any one ...

NO UZBEK GIRLS FOR YOU BUT WE HAVE A GOOD DEAL ON AMERICAN GIRLS BUY ONE GET 50 FREE

SOUNDS GOOD?

[Tank]

[quote="Delta"]it's all about the money again!

It seems to me Delta that you believe money is a power, belief is a power.

[truth or your old friend]

Shumbola,

there is no such rule that one cannot marry another nationality. it's all about peoples beliefs and so forth.
if the person is confident/strong and ready for consequences of what s/he is doing then it is absolutely fine. one just needs to consider everything, take risks.
actions change people.

[-JUST-]

Wow, I didn't think someone would dig up my old post after 3 long years....

Well, I was only an 18 year old kid when I initially posted the discussion. Now I've matured quite a bit and started looking at things from a real life perspective. Back then I was full of dreams and high hopes, which in real life were impossible. I guess I was blinded with love and hybernating in a state of illusion disguised as platonic love. As time went by, I gradually started realising that in the end I might regret my decision. It's not that I"m afraid of taking risks, it's just this is the only thing which I really don't want to jeopardize, my future family. Anyways, to make the long story short I came to conclusion that only uzbek girl would understand uzbek guy the most.

Vot i skazke konec. Sorry esli zaklyuchenie kogo nibud' razocharovalo.

Peace,
JUST

PS: Now when I look back to some of the stuff I wrote, I can't believe I wrote them. :) As the saying goes : Yoshlik - Beboshlik.

[dona]

Of course, he can marry an American girl, as long as he has enough balls to stand up to his parents, friends, and anyone who would oppose it.

I married a foreigner, and my family almost disowned me. But I thought of my happiness and put it above anybody else's. If that entails his remaining in the US, then, it's a different question. He will have to bring the bride to sunny Uzb or face some immigration problems, as well as problems with the authorities back home who paid for him to be in the US.

Dona

[Delta]

Dona,
remarkable selfishness, but the truth.
Great example. :)

Question: How do you like your life so far ?

[ozbekina]

No body couldn't predict somebodies future, so we are just wait and see the result but the main is .... try it ....

[LaNoSha]

Esli ti uveren chto ti budesh schstliv s ney To jenis i ne jeley ob etom delay tak kak podskazivaet. Tebe tvoyo serdce. Udachi.

[Abu Hurayra]

badbashara, your avatar 's reminded me this: http://www.intothematrix.com/ choose the second one.

But seriously, we, uzbeks are brainwashed with all the nonsense about not getting married non-uzbek.

Fact: In 2020, the probability that your children would engage with other nationals would be much higher. I think 5 fold. And what's the point of maintaining this pure uzbek blood stream, when we are descendants of thousands of other ethnicities? Give it up now! You would self deny just like I did in the past. If you're to be with someone that you think you'll be happy with then go for it! We are all humans! You will probably have a healthier relationship if you do with accordance what you want to, not as someone dictates you.
Me dont think so that uzbeks were brainwashed with what u have mentioned.
It depends on person. I do not see any problems in marrying other nationalities.:cool:


PS:3 year old but interesting thread ...

[Sawaddeeka]

well, i'm not sure if i will sound right, since i'm tired.. but bored :)

ALL of the below concerns only majority of Americans.
I believe after growing up in massive American brain wash process,

No American Girl can Undersand you and Read Your Mind and Support you Emotionally Like Your Own Uz-Girl does.
No American Woman Would be as Loyal as Uz-Girl would.
No American Woman would be your soul mate religiously as Uz-Girl would.

Overall, think if you will regret in a future that you married american.
No matter what, our nation pulls each other as one like a magnet, no matter where you are.
think if you can resist to that uz. magnetic field.

Plus, don't forget that Love is partially dependent on factors around us, it changes day and night.

may be sounded like lecturing, take this as what i think about this issue...or i was lecturing myself
------

~cheers

I see some of another racism here.
I hope you're happy with your pure decent beloved uzbek girls since non uzbek girls are not perfect for you.

[Sawaddeeka]

[quote=kazraid@aol.com]I think it would be almost impossible for an Uzbek man to be happily married to an American woman. Most Uzbek men are raised in a society where the men are the dominant partner in a marriage. In America the woman expects to be at a minimum an equal partner, and possibly even the dominant mate. The American woman expects the man to cook, clean, do laundry, watch the children, etc ... I am very happily married to an Uzbek woman and would never consider marrying an American woman. If you have any questions about American/Uzbek marriages feel free to email me at : kazraid@aol.com

Anthony[/quote
Thank you for making me realized that after all,what uzbek guys want is a slave not his wife :D

[Sawaddeeka]

I think it would be almost impossible for an Uzbek man to be happily married to an American woman. Most Uzbek men are raised in a society where the men are the dominant partner in a marriage. In America the woman expects to be at a minimum an equal partner, and possibly even the dominant mate. The American woman expects the man to cook, clean, do laundry, watch the children, etc ... I am very happily married to an Uzbek woman and would never consider marrying an American woman. If you have any questions about American/Uzbek marriages feel free to email me at : kazraid@aol.com

Anthony


Thank you for making me realize that what uzbek guys want from mariage is slave not wife :cool:

[Sawaddeeka]

No American Girl can Undersand you and Read Your Mind and Support you Emotionally Like Your Own Uz-Girl does.
No American Woman Would be as Loyal as Uz-Girl would.
No American Woman would be your soul mate religiously as Uz-Girl would.




May I change your statement a little bit

No American Woman would tolerate Uzbek guys as Uzbek Girls would :D

[Pinkie]

Me dont think so that uzbeks were brainwashed with what u have mentioned.
It depends on person. I do not see any problems in marrying other nationalities.:cool:


PS:3 year old but interesting thread ...
I am not trying to label all Uzbeks. The ones I have met are very keen on marrying their own race. Maybe, this concept of purity is very strange for me :?.

Sawadeeka: Not all American girls are like that ;)

[Bonik]

May I change your statement a little bit

No American Woman would tolerate Uzbek guys as Uzbek Girls would :D


Savadi krap Savaddeeka,
:) It's very refreshing to hear these words from a Thai girl :)

[Legend]

.... budu jdat vashih mneniy,
Shumik

Back to the old topic....Why not ? :)

[UzLand]

May I change your statement a little bit

No American Woman would tolerate Uzbek guys as Uzbek Girls would :D

Wo-ha-ha-ha!:lol:

[Aziz]

the only case that I may marry an American...if she is Uzbek;).

[Royal]

May I change your statement a little bit

No American Woman would tolerate Uzbek guys as Uzbek Girls would :D
Because majority, once more not everyone but majority of US woman life is for one day! they don't think about tomorow, like we do. they may plan something for the tomorow, but in sence of own needs not for family oriented, same as US woman not family oriented..they would not like to burden responcibilities them selves with such obligation...for them family or matters of the family some kind of heavy thing, they plan or think about the life very lite.

that way i understand...

[Uyyonli]

the only case that I may marry an American...if she is Uzbek;).
or if she is citizen, and if you want to get citizenship. :) just a bad joke !

[melo]

Because majority, once more not everyone but majority of US woman life is for one day! they don't think about tomorow, like we do. they may plan something for the tomorow, but in sence of own needs not for family oriented, same as US woman not family oriented..they would not like to burden responcibilities them selves with such obligation...for them family or matters of the family some kind of heavy thing, they plan or think about the life very lite.

that way i understand...

Well the majority of uzbek women don't plan anything either. They are told who to marry. They move to a new house and become a slave. If this is what you are looking for- you will quickly turn to prostitutes like most uzbek men. I guess this is better, right?:rolleyes:

[PainKiller]

Well the majority of uzbek women don't plan anything either. They are told who to marry. They move to a new house and become a slave. If this is what you are looking for- you will quickly turn to prostitutes like most uzbek men. I guess this is better, right?:rolleyes:Atpaint, thank u 4 being worried of uzbek women.:)

[melo]

Atpaint, thank u 4 being worried of uzbek women.:)

somebody needs to.:? :shock: :?

[Sawaddeeka]

Well the majority of uzbek women don't plan anything either. They are told who to marry. They move to a new house and become a slave. If this is what you are looking for- you will quickly turn to prostitutes like most uzbek men. I guess this is better, right?:rolleyes:


That's suck
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[PALESTINE]

Well the majority of uzbek women don't plan anything either. They are told who to marry. They move to a new house and become a slave. If this is what you are looking for- you will quickly turn to prostitutes like most uzbek men. I guess this is better, right?:rolleyes:

ya, ofcourse you are right !

please, send your country forces to liberate them
also the mustnt forget to construct new =abu ghraib hotel for women= in uzbekistan !

ofcourse, this is an american measurable successful studied plan in preventing rights of women ...

regards >>>

[UzLand]

My precise answer is YES.

Да хоть на папуаске, лижь бы человек был нормальный.

[melo]

ya, ofcourse you are right !

please, send your country forces to liberate them
also the mustnt forget to construct new =abu ghraib hotel for women= in uzbekistan !

Your logic is very interesting- women rights and military action. Hmm- what world do you live in? :rolleyes: Not even George Bush would claim they are liberating a country for women's rights.:P He is more creative than that- weapons of mass destruction:lol:

ofcourse, this is an american measurable successful studied plan in preventing rights of women ...

regards >>>

not sure what this means? But you can ask women who have lived in Uzbekistan and the US. Take a poll and get back to me.

[Пушкарева]

My dady used to say "..even if he is Afro-american, as long as my daughter is happy".

PS: and my mom bitterly asked him not to say that in front of us :)

[Oyaji]

My dady used to say "..even if he is Afro-american, as long as my daughter is happy".

PS: and my mom bitterly asked him not to say that in front of us :)

Uzimizzi negirlar (afro-uzbek) qurib qobtimi :D

[Oyaji]

American wooman, stay away from meeee!
American wooman, mama let me beeee!

Don't come a hangin' around my door
I don't wanna see your face no more
I got more important things to do
Than spend my time growin' old with you
Now Woman, I said stay away
American Woman, listen what I say-ay-ay-ay-ay-ay

:) Xazil. Baxtli boling, kim bilan bolsangiz xam.

[Пушкарева]

qurib qopti :(

PSga PS: albatta bahtli bolaman :)

Uzimizzi negirlar (afro-uzbek) qurib qobtimi :D

[Oyaji]

qurib qopti :(

PSga PS: albatta bahtli bolaman :)

ps shumbolaga edi-ku! :D

[Пушкарева]

Nima bopti, manam bahtli bolishni hohlaganim uchun ettim-qoydim :)

ps shumbolaga edi-ku! :D

[guest2005]

My dady used to say "..even if he is Afro-american, as long as my daughter is happy".

PS: and my mom bitterly asked him not to say that in front of us :)

I bet your dad did not say "afro-american" :). He probably used shorter and less politically correct version of the same thing,

Guest

P.S. BTW are you married? Just wondering if you did get married to "Afro-American" :)

[Martingale]

My dady used to say "..even if he is Afro-american, as long as my daughter is happy".

PS: and my mom bitterly asked him not to say that in front of us :)

nezabudkahoooon,

iltimos, negrlarga tegmaaang, iltimos qilamiz, iltimos...:) :lol:

[Пушкарева]

right, it was that "politically less correct" word used back home :)


I bet your dad did not say "afro-american" :). He probably used shorter and less politically correct version of the same thing,

Guest

P.S. BTW are you married? Just wondering if you did get married to "Afro-American" :)

[Uyyonli]

Yes, they can, question should be should they merry to american.
even if Uzbek man is muslem, he still can merry a women who is not muslim. so yes he can.

[StU]

My dady used to say "..even if he is Afro-american, as long as my daughter is happy".

PS: and my mom bitterly asked him not to say that in front of us :)

ana endi chiqyapti ;). Hush - topildimi uje bittasi?
Martingalening gapiga qo'shilaman :?...

[HustleR]

"bir kuni ketyasam bitta negir yolimdan chiqdi, iye bu negir cheto uzbekka uhshedikanu dedim, keyin suradim, oshna mabodo Quchqarvoyakani uglimasmisiz? Negir bola javob berdi: <- Ayam uzbek, dadam afrikadan shu afro uzbek man deb javob berdi>"....ja qora millat bilan uzbek millati qushilsa ancha qiziq chiqar ekan...

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Jumbo-Humbo...

[Pinkie]

My dady used to say "..even if he is Afro-american, as long as my daughter is happy".

PS: and my mom bitterly asked him not to say that in front of us :)
My parents tell me I can marry whoever I want. One day I will put them to the test :lol:.

[R.Azimov]

nezabudkahoooon,

iltimos, negrlarga tegmaaang, iltimos qilamiz, iltimos...:) :lol: lol.

UK da qizlar bilan bir qiziq research o'tkazilibdi. Turmushga chiqish haqida.
Ularning "Negr yigitga turmushga chiqishni xohlayman"-deganlarini tanlab olishibdida "jinsiy hayot, unda erkaklar tana a'zolarining qanchalik muhimligi" -mavzusida 1 soatlik ma'ruza tinglatishibdi.

Qayta so'rovnoma qilishsa barcha qizlar "yo'q, negrga turmushga chiqmayman" degan javob berishganmish.


Ana ko'pchilik qizlar nima sababdan negrga turmushga chiqaman... deyishadi.


jk.
R.A.

[Shahnoz]

Can uzbek marry an american

Hecham muammoni ko'rmootman... nimasi yomon? Tuzik odam-u, miyasi joyda bo'lsa-da... ko'rinishi yam "shinam" bo'lsa hecham yomon joyi yo'.

[Gareeb]

Yes of course if both are muslims or otherwise

[PALESTINE]

dear pinkie,

according to our present moment, what trend your parents expectaions are going?? do the days proving or dis-aproving there expectations??

atpaint,
am not too much interested by the step you suggested before as all the world have previous experience about it, however if you dont know how your government -respect!- women in prisons its your own problem which i dont hold its responsibility ...

also mr, you are to respect uzbek women and there traditions, why to describe her as "slave!" ??

move to a new house and become a slave.

please, dont open more discussion about this matter
just respect forumers and traditions of the uzbek people and country .

Regards >>>

[PALESTINE]

dear forumers,

some of my friends are merried from american individuals and live great happy moments, and i have nothing against .

but, the american government destroyed the repuation of its own people by the last wars against different countries of the muslim world .

important point, neither me nor any of muslims against any kind of friendship with other peoples, really we are interested in having relations with other peoples but, good relations began to be born from actions of governments as hold the word and responsibility about its people ...


regards >>>

[melo]

also mr, you are to respect uzbek women and there traditions, why to describe her as "slave!" ??

please, dont open more discussion about this matter
just respect forumers and traditions of the uzbek people and country .

Regards >>>

Sorry- I forgot you are the expert on everything. I will consult you next time before talking about any issues. :rolleyes: I didn't know talking about Uzbek women was not allowed in the forum.

[Royal]

PS: and my mom bitterly asked him not to say that in front of us :)
Oyiz aqqli gap etganakanla....chunki yahshi gapgayam va yamon gapgayam farishtalar omin deydi degan gap ortada...towba qildim deyish kerak.

[Sevinch]

Ok,aytaylik amerikankaga uylandingiz.Hammasi yahshi bahtli hayot kechirasiz.Baribir hech kim bir umr Amerikada qolmasa kerak.Bir kuni yoshingiz anchaga etgach, yoki ish yuzasidanmi biron nima bulib uz yurtingiz Uzbekistonga yashashingizga tug'ri kelib qolsa.U amerikanka bunga rozi bulmasa,keyin nima? Ajralishga tug'ri keladi.Dunyodan utgandan keyin sizni qabringiz qaerdayu uniki qaerlarda qolib ketadi.

[melo]

What if the American was interested in and understood Uzbek culture? What if this American spoke Uzbek? Would that make it okay?

ps. not for me obviously:P I'm taken.

[runawaygirl]

atpaint,you seem to have a very low self-esteem if you had a heart to call most uzbek men prostitutes. Keep one thing at the back of your head "WE DON'T SEE THINGS AS THEY ARE. WE SEE THINGS AS WE ARE". IF one is a liar,he/she doubts everyone's words; if one is cheater,he/she thinks everybody is trying to cheat him,to pull his/her leg; and so on...I can give you loads of examples here. What do you know about Uzbekistan or uzbek men or women? What did Uzbek people did to you that you hate them so much? Or why do you hate yourself so much? Why did I ask this question,you wonder?Because a person incapable loving himself cannot love or respect others. Good luck to you.

[Pinkie]

dear pinkie,

according to our present moment, what trend your parents expectaions are going?? do the days proving or dis-aproving there expectations??

atpaint,
am not too much interested by the step you suggested before as all the world have previous experience about it, however if you dont know how your government -respect!- women in prisons its your own problem which i dont hold its responsibility ...

also mr, you are to respect uzbek women and there traditions, why to describe her as "slave!" ??

please, dont open more discussion about this matter
just respect forumers and traditions of the uzbek people and country .

Regards >>>
My parents? I don't think they care. Just as long as their future son in law is responsible and has morals, there wont be a problem. I don't have a crystal ball, so I cannot foretell the future. Only Allah (swt) knows if they will keep their word when they meet their future son in law.

I know you were addressing atpaint in the second half but I don't think he said anything offensive about Uzbek culture.

[PainKiller]

Atpaint only expressed his negativity against those who cheat on their wives, why are u Protectin such people, Palestine?

[Destankutluhan]

With all of my respect to you, I want to tell a few things on this marriage issue;

Marriage should be a result of love and respect to each other. If an Amercian respect you and your values and loves you, then Marry with him/her !
But don't forget to teach Ozbekche to your children, PLEASE !
If you won't, then, you and laters are the lost ones.

He/She loved you with your identity and you should never give it up.

Never marry just because she/he is an Amercian, otherwise you will give up too much from you selfesteem and unfortunately loosing in the end is much likely.

Please allways remember, you would have cultural and linguistical problems regardless how well you speak the language, hence do not forget to listen and completely understand what the other side is saying. And ask your partner allways to do same. If not you will find yourself in the court for a few years later to divorce.



Saglicakla,
(means stay healthy)

[PALESTINE]

As-salamu alaikum,

Dear sister pinkie, take it easy please,
No one here know what may happen in the future, all what I was to say just "according to your future expectations if there were any trend about this matter, and allah not ban us from planning and expecting for our future, and that neither be looking in crystal balls nor being claiming about future "

Sorry dear pinkie if I caused any type of hurting for your senses, please accept my apologize.

About atpaint,
His words explaning this "he has aspecial look to the majority uzbek women life style, describing her life in her husband house as same as the life of aslave in his master house"

And I expressed my opinion on that matter that the uzbek people has his special social life traditions that differs the western societies, and atpaints fast describe was not appropriate, if he couldn’t understand the uzbek life style well not appropriate to put such description !, cuz this is not amatter of personal chating with forumers, but adescription for the society it self .

Also, if there were any type of misunderstanding, ofcourse I apologize for any one may insulted of my words .

Painkiller, I think you have understood my answer from the previous words .

Special Regards >>

[PALESTINE]

also i said,

we are interested in friendship with other peoples and persons, and holding the message of truth and love .

but at the same time, alot of western values not accepted in east, also alot of the eastern values not accepted in the west, and putting total description on some society will be akind of jokes !

also i said, when i answer some one, my answer be to him/her self only, not any other of the forumers, so my words to atpaint are to his openion and person, not to americans .

Regards

[Pinkie]

As-salamu alaikum,

Dear sister pinkie, take it easy please,
No one here know what may happen in the future, all what I was to say just "according to your future expectations if there were any trend about this matter, and allah not ban us from planning and expecting for our future, and that neither be looking in crystal balls nor being claiming about future "

Sorry dear pinkie if I caused any type of hurting for your senses, please accept my apologize.

About atpaint,
His words explaning this "he has aspecial look to the majority uzbek women life style, describing her life in her husband house as same as the life of aslave in his master house"

And I expressed my opinion on that matter that the uzbek people has his special social life traditions that differs the western societies, and atpaints fast describe was not appropriate, if he couldn’t understand the uzbek life style well not appropriate to put such description !, cuz this is not amatter of personal chating with forumers, but adescription for the society it self .

Also, if there were any type of misunderstanding, ofcourse I apologize for any one may insulted of my words .

Special Regards >>




Laaaa, :). You misunderstood me. I was not angry at all.
Painkiller already mentioned what I was going to say. atpaint was talking about men who cheat on their wives and treat them badly. It's ok if a woman is a housewife, there is no problem with that, but how her husband treats her is very important too.

:fiaman:

[PALESTINE]

but how her husband treats her is very important too.

you are right, did i said anthing against?!
ofcourse the man must respect his wife and treat her well, really that is the natural right of her, not -agift!-

atpaint was talking about men who cheat on their wives and treat them badly.

apologize me please, he said that the majority of uzbek men are doing that, is that right ??

however, forget what i said, i think there is no problem, you just misunderstood me, or i may misunderstood some details of the story .

all what i was against just describing the uzbek life style in relation between husband and wife as arelation between master and slave, as i know that the uzbek men are good husbands in majority, some mentioned false relations are not amonobole on some society, and am never to defend any worst husband by any way, if he was uzbek, american, and also if he was palestinian !

ok ok, i think that was just misunderstanding, we are deal .

:fiaman:

[SayyedRiyad]

A, yana Uzbekchilik boshlandimi!!!?
Oy! Sanlarga nima, Uzbekga uylanadimi, Rusgami eki Amerikalikga.
Uziga yahshi bulsa, birbiriga hurmat bulsa - boldide!
Hozir zamon shunaka! Dune bitta. Inson nima hohlasa - shuni kiladi.
Man naprimer: judayam hursand bulamanki, uzbek kizi - boshka millatga eki boshka davlatga turmushka chiksa, bahtli bulsa.
A to 17 eshda uzatvorshadi, i vse . haet yok, uydan chikmaydi. ikkinchi boladan keyin - semiribketadi, 35-40 eshiga borganda - girt kampir.
tak chto man za. Azgina bolsayam Uzbek konini azgina-azgina aralshtiribtirishkerak, shunda soglom avlod tugiladi.

[xon_usa]

Agar chuqurroq mulohaza qiladigan eng yahshisi yigit va qizni uzbek bo`lgani a`lo bo`lardi aytmasangiz ham tushunadi andisha ibo hayo farzandingizga tarihni ertak va masallarda hurmat bilan tarbiya beradigan Amerikan yoki boshqa millat vakilasi emas. Ota-onani turmush o`rtog`ini va uni oila a`zolarini hurmat va ezozlash kerakligini haqida tarbiyani uzbek qizi olgan hamma har hil fikrda mani shahsiy fikrim yigitla ham qizla ham o`z tanigan va bilgan inson bilan hayotini bog`lashi kerak. 3-4 yil chetdaman deb yoki sevdim deb (agar u sevgidek oliy tuyg`u bo`lsa) shartta uylanishi ... ... ... Hop yigit uylandi yashadi ma`lum vaqtdan keyin Uzb ga qaytib ketdi ham deylik. Qiz bolachi yahshi qizla mahalla o`shib ketmaydi. Hamma narsani chetga qo`yib ota-onasi ma`qul ko`rgan insonga agar yigiti bo`lmasa (hozirgi sharoitni bilmadimu lekin mani davrimda bunaqa narsala juda kam edi.) turmushga chiqqani ma`qul. Ma`lum vaqtdan keyin u ham uzbekistonga borib yashagisi kelsa turmush o`rtog`i uzbek bo`lsa nur ustiga nur agar sla etvotgande amerikalik bo`lsa nima qiladi Shuni uchun yurak bilan emas aql bilan ish ko`rgan ma`qul

[Unique]

12 betni o'qib chiqish ancha muncha vaqt..... uni-buni qo'yila, undan ko'ra Shumbola o'sha qizga uylandimi yo'mi shunisi qiziq???;)

[lips]

May I know whether most Uzbek girls are interested to marry American guys or vice versa. Sorry for my ignorance since I am from Malaysia.
Over here, people will marry who they are interested in.

[lips]

May I know whether most Uzbek girls are interested to marry American guys or vice versa. Sorry for my ignorance since I am from Malaysia.
Over here, people will marry who they are interested in.

[kingdom]

Shumbola man sizni urningizda buganimda amerikadan bitta uzimizni qizlardan bittasiga uylanibolib har 3-4oyda Uzb-Amerika yunalishida qatnardim!:lol:

[illusion]

As long as that someone is a decent human being. Why not?

[Пушкарева]

True. It is not nationality/ethnicity that's important, but his/her personal qualities.

As long as that someone is a decent human being. Why not?

[NYyankNY]

1savol?
misol Uzim uzbek man lekin I'M US citezen 1
Agar man Uzebk giz bilan uylansam ,
Bu yam she is marry to american boladi mi ?

[Alesser]

of course one can marry whoever he likes, but the question is "can he survive or can their marriage survive?!" and it varies from person to person...I personally think American girls are too much, my personal experience they get drunk most of the time and go nuts (not all, but some)... many of them also demand too much from their marriage (Uzbekcha qilibaytganda, kuzi ochiq, haqqini juda yahshi biladi) and marriage will become not like a family but like a company... husband and wife will be like business partners (not all of them, but some) if something goes a little bit wrong, they will end up in trial suing each other for nothing (Uzbekni esa manimcha bunga toqati bulmasa kerak)...

[melo]

I find Uzbek views of Americans hilarious!:lol: :lol: :lol:

[MAJESTY]

Absolutely can and why not! Indeed, it's up to a person/particular situation. Minor complications [cultural values, views, mentality, background etc.] may occur, but if you believe in and both feel to pull out then my call would be - go for it.
Just be extra responsible before you make decision and some juniors ;). There is no specific formula for happiness, so whatever makes you content and satisfied in your life. At the end of the day, we all stand equally straight in front of God.

[Magnolia]

What's the big dilemma anyway? So what if Uzbek girl marries American...if she loves him and he loves her then why not?:rolleyes:
If he is a good guy why not go for it?;)

P.S. I support mixed marriages,they create beautiful babies :cool:

[melo]

P.S. I support mixed marriages,they create beautiful babies :cool:

That's true. Not sure why, but mixed marriages have the best looking kids.

[Magnolia]

That's true. Not sure why, but mixed marriages have the best looking kids.
Probably because blood "wears" out ;),needs fresh flow in...

[MAJESTY]

mix is good, indeed! ;)

[Asian_girl]

k...what if will be the same situation but uzbek gir