WOMAN IS THE NIGGER

[[Female] Guest]

JOHN LENNON - WOMAN IS THE NIGGER OF THE WORLD (BEATLES)

Woman is the nigger of the world
Yes she is, think about it
Woman is the nigger of the world
Think about it, do something about it

We make her paint her face and dance
If she won't be a slave, we say that she don't love us
If she's real, we say she's trying to be a man
While putting her down, we pretend that she's above us

Woman is the nigger of the world, yes she is
If you don't believe me, take a look at the one you're with
Woman is the slave of the slaves
Oh, yeah, better scream about it, yeah

We insult her everyday on TV
And we wonder why she has no guts or confidence
When she's young we kill her will to be free
While telling her not to be so smart
We put her down for being so dumb

Woman is the nigger of the world, yes she is
If you don't believe me, take a look at the one you're with
Woman is the slave of the slaves, yes she is
If you don't believe me, you better scream about it

We make her paint her face and dance

We make her bear and raise our children
And then we leave her flat for being a fat old mother hen
We tell her home is the only place she should be
Then we complain that she's too unworldly to be our friend


i love you john :gorgeous: :horns:

just tell me it's wrong can you...? you are not obliged to write reply to this posting, but if you do please could you focus mainly on UZBEK women? pls no comparison of jews or christians, but just uzbeks.
thanks babe. :butterflytwo:

[[Female] Guest]

ishonchim komilki hamma "nigger" so'zinig ma'nosini juda yaxshi biladi. bilgan- bilmaganlarga, yana ham chuqurroq ma'nolari:

1. ikkinchi darajali odam (ya'ni asl odam emas)
2. qul

[Siege]

[Female] Guest, Мне кажется песня преувеличивает, все это.
Talking about Uzbek ladies I think they can get anything they want, for example my mom she is busineswoman and she thanks God for being a woman!

А так как личность я презираю Ленона, но некоторые его песни просто гениальны.

[trigger-happy]

In Uzbekistan, women are not exactly niggers, more like mulattos. :D We are more or less equal with men in business and work, but in family life we still have ways to go to true equality. Men don't appreciate their wive's efforts at home, don't help them with house work, and are often so possessive of their wives, that the "nigger" metaphor doesn't seem too far fetched.

I think Lennon just wanted to make a point, so he exaggerated a bit.

[[Female] Guest]

siege: balki sizning onangiz sanoqli ayollardan biridir. onangizga o'xshab biznismen bo'lib [muvaffaqiyatli] ish yuritayotgan o'zbek ayollari juda kam.
va ularning ko'pchiligi toshkentdadir. lekin toshkentdagi sanoq butun o'zbekistonga tegishli degani emas. bu she'rda achchiq haqiqat aytilgan, ayollrga "nigger"dek qarash erkaklarning mentalitetida! o'zbek erkaklariga kelsak u yog'ini aytib o'tirmayman.

haqiqat hamisha achchiqdir; haqiqat egiladi lekin sinmaydi.

[[Female] Guest]

"I think Lennon just wanted to make a point, so he exaggerated a bit."

what do you mean? if there is a point you don't have to exaggerate.

[trigger-happy]

[Female] Guest,
Lennon had to exaggerate to make his point because by and large, women are not actually slaves. Get it?

[Oldi qator student]

DAAAA FAMALE E GAP YO ACHIQ HAQIQAT BU ,HA BIR SAVOLIM BOR SIZGA.FAMALE GUEST SIZ BILAN TANISHMOQCHIMAN ILOJI BORMI

[[Female] Guest]

in men's mentality women are slaves. trigger just admit it or wait to see it yourself.

[[Female] Guest]

o'zingi yig'ishtir yigitcha. kimligingni ko'rsatishing shart emas. bor ..... o'yna, chundinmi?
omadlar

:gorgeous: :butterflytwo:

[trigger-happy]

Guest"]in men's mentality women are slaves. trigger just admit it or wait to see it yourself.
No need to get testy. I already said that in Uzbekistan men are very possessive of women. Read my posts first, then make attacks.
Besides, I wouldn't put all men (or all women, for that matter) into one big pile. My man treats me just fine, thank you very much. And there are some decent men out there, although they are hard to find. Don't let the men who are not worth you dictate to you what you should or shouldn't do - fight! It's hard, but you have to realize that noone makes us their slaves without our agreement.

[[Female] Guest]

trigger what are you talking about? :splat:
and then, let's be realistic. i know that there are FEW Uzbek men who treat women properly. but very FEW. and i am talking about real uzbeks, not russionized and not amercanized. do you understand? now tell me more what you think.

[[Female] Guest]

tell me more about the "agreement".

[[Female] Guest]

one of my friends just told me one saying:
:read:
"God made man as a rough draft, so He could make a woman."

i thank you my friend. btw he is also one of the FEW Uzbek men.
:gorgeous:

[Delta]

mdaa :)

[trigger-happy]

Guest"]tell me more about the "agreement".
If you allow a man to treat you like a slave, that is the agreement I was talking about. You have legal rights - so go ahead and assert them and stop whining. If you behave like a slave, you will be treated like a slave. If you behave like a queen, you will be treated like a queen. If you behave like an equal, you will be treated like an equal. It's very simle really. Men treat you badly? Do not associate with those men! If I kept whining like you, I'd probably still be a "slave" and ended up with a wife-beater alkash husband, 5 kids, and no future. No offense, Female, but I would like you to see it from a more proactive point of view - nothing positive will happen in your life if you don't make it happen.

[Delta]

off the topic. :fig:

Guest"]tell me more about the "agreement".
If you allow a man to treat you like a slave, that is the agreement I was talking about. You have legal rights - so go ahead and assert them and stop whining. If you behave like a slave, you will be treated like a slave. If you behave like a queen, you will be treated like a queen. If you behave like an equal, you will be treated like an equal. It's very simle really. Men treat you badly? Do not associate with those men! If I kept whining like you, I'd probably still be a "slave" and ended up with a wife-beater alkash husband, 5 kids, and no future. No offense, Female, but I would like you to see it from a more proactive point of view - nothing positive will happen in your life if you don't make it happen.

trigger: you seem to be "testy" not me. so calm down. and i am not here to tell what you are telling is wrong, and it is the same for you too. first, of all you have no idea who i am and don't know a thing about my life, then don't try to teach me. i am sure i have more experience then you. so don't waste your time. second, :laughing: i am not whining at all. you made me laugh here. as i said dont' make any judgements if you don't know anything about me. my male friends, real uzbek men, treat me very well, but they are just exceptions out of our society.
and then, as i told you be realistic. write your opinion, teach yourself, and i did not write this posting because i wanted some "help" :) :); everytime you reply i can smell that. so also please stop doing that, it is just waste of time.
regarding your statement that a woman should "assert" her rights is just weak. it soudns like you made a general statement. but i am talking only about UZBEK women. and it is a phenomenon if an ordinary uzbek women can assert her rights. before that you have to ask the question whether she knows her rights or not.
:morning:

[[Female] Guest]

trigger-happy wrote:
[Female] Guest wrote:
tell me more about the "agreement".

If you allow a man to treat you like a slave, that is the agreement I was talking about. You have legal rights - so go ahead and assert them and stop whining. If you behave like a slave, you will be treated like a slave. If you behave like a queen, you will be treated like a queen. If you behave like an equal, you will be treated like an equal. It's very simle really. Men treat you badly? Do not associate with those men! If I kept whining like you, I'd probably still be a "slave" and ended up with a wife-beater alkash husband, 5 kids, and no future. No offense, Female, but I would like you to see it from a more proactive point of view - nothing positive will happen in your life if you don't make it happen.


trigger: you seem to be "testy" not me. so calm down. and i am not here to tell what you are telling is wrong, and it is the same for you too. first, of all you have no idea who i am and don't know a thing about my life, then don't try to teach me. i am sure i have more experience then you. so don't waste your time. second, :laughing: i am not whining at all. you made me laugh here. as i said dont' make any judgements if you don't know anything about me. my male friends and my boyfriend, real uzbek men, treat me very well, but they are just exceptions out of our society.
and then, as i told you be realistic. write your opinion, teach yourself, and i did not write this posting because i wanted some "help" :) :) ; everytime you reply i can smell that. so also please stop doing that, it is just waste of time.
regarding your statement that a woman should "assert" her rights is just weak. it soudns like you made a general statement. but i am talking only about UZBEK women. and it is a phenomenon if an ordinary uzbek women can assert her rights. before that you have to ask the question whether she knows her rights or not.
:morning:

[trigger-happy]

Guest"]tell me more about the "agreement".
If you allow a man to treat you like a slave, that is the agreement I was talking about. You have legal rights - so go ahead and assert them and stop whining. If you behave like a slave, you will be treated like a slave. If you behave like a queen, you will be treated like a queen. If you behave like an equal, you will be treated like an equal. It's very simle really. Men treat you badly? Do not associate with those men! If I kept whining like you, I'd probably still be a "slave" and ended up with a wife-beater alkash husband, 5 kids, and no future. No offense, Female, but I would like you to see it from a more proactive point of view - nothing positive will happen in your life if you don't make it happen.

trigger: you seem to be "testy" not me. so calm down. and i am not here to tell what you are telling is wrong, and it is the same for you too. first, of all you have no idea who i am and don't know a thing about my life, then don't try to teach me. i am sure i have more experience then you. so don't waste your time. second, :laughing: i am not whining at all. you made me laugh here. as i said dont' make any judgements if you don't know anything about me. my male friends, real uzbek men, treat me very well, but they are just exceptions out of our society.
and then, as i told you be realistic. write your opinion, teach yourself, and i did not write this posting because i wanted some "help" :) :); everytime you reply i can smell that. so also please stop doing that, it is just waste of time.
regarding your statement that a woman should "assert" her rights is just weak. it soudns like you made a general statement. but i am talking only about UZBEK women. and it is a phenomenon if an ordinary uzbek women can assert her rights. before that you have to ask the question whether she knows her rights or not.
:morning:

Female,
I was not trying to teach you or make assessments of you or your life. If you think you have more life experience than I (although you don't know me either), good for you. I just post my opinions (cause it's a public forum) and if you don't like them, tough. Yes, I made a general statement, because you asked me a general question. And you ARE whining, because no matter what you get in reply, you keep writing the same old thing, oh poor Uzbek women and men who don't respect them. If you don't have that problem yourself, then what makes you think you are qualified to assert such strong opinions on the topic?

P.S. This is a discussion forum and if you don't like discussions, then you are in the wrong place.

[Delta]

:beat: :kill:

[trigger-happy]

Delta,
no domination - just an open discussion of an important issue. :)

[[Female] Guest]

Female,
I was not trying to teach you or make assessments of you or your life. If you think you have more life experience than I (although you don't know me either), good for you. I just post my opinions (cause it's a public forum) and if you don't like them, tough. Yes, I made a general statement, because you asked me a general question. And you ARE whining, because no matter what you get in reply, you keep writing the same old thing, oh poor Uzbek women and men who don't respect them. If you don't have that problem yourself, then what makes you think you are qualified to assert such strong opinions on the topic?

P.S. This is a discussion forum and if you don't like discussions, then you are in the wrong place.


trigger: i was trying to tell that there was no need to judge me myself as a woman (i think you still cannot get my point) and that i am whining about it. you just keep saying that i am whining, but what do you really mean by that? i am not whining, and if you cannot understand me then it is your problem. please stop concentrating on me and thinking why i am writing such topics [that's very funny] and focus on the topic, if you cannot do it, oh well, then leave babe. don't waste your health and time. :doctor:

and the, let's stop this getting-stupid-dialogue between us. because i don't have time to answer and prove that my life is not connected to what i am writing. it would be a nonsense. sorry.

:drinking:

ps. i think..........i know you, but that's not the point and who cares.....take care

[trigger-happy]

[quote="[Female] Guest"]trigger: i was trying to tell that there was no need to judge me myself as a woman (i think you still cannot get my point) and that i am whining about it. you just keep saying that i am whining, but what do you really mean by that? i am not whining, and if you cannot understand me then it is your problem.
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relax, Female. What I mean by whining is presenting Uzbek women as victims - in 21st century no less. Now that is just my opinion and if you disagree it shouldn't bother you.
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please stop concentrating on me and thinking why i am writing such topics [that's very funny] and focus on the topic, if you cannot do it, oh well, then leave babe. don't waste your health and time. :doctor:
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Glad I made you laugh. I'm just interested, why you started this discussion and when I disagreed with you, you try to boot me off, as if you own the topic just because you opened it. Also, it's cute how you worry about my health, but I'm fine. :P
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and the, let's stop this getting-stupid-dialogue between us. because i don't have time to answer and prove that my life is not connected to what i am writing. it would be a nonsense. sorry.

:drinking:
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A dialog is only as stupid as the people engaging in it: if that's how you view both of us, it's pretty telling. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

ps. i think..........i know you, but that's not the point and who cares.....take care
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Don't kid yourself. We probably socialized in entirely different social circles.

Take it easy,
trigger-happy

[[Female] Guest]

you are right and you are absolutely welcome in my postings.

i appraciate it. feel free replying. ;)


Ey behabar, haqqa kongil yugurtmading
Dunyo harom andin kongil sovutmading
Nafsdin kechib Ollo sari tolgonmading
Bu nafs uchun zoru-hayron boldim mano

A. Yassavi

[Royal]

Dears ,

Try understand that:

" Womens are not bad, We are Mens are BAD , for that GOD send the
women to punish the men."

[CrazyDT]

Damn, and this happened just before march 8th. :)


I love all of you, women. There are certainly problems, and we have to make them public aware, just like it had once done sometime ago on march 8th. There has been so much progress since then, and I think there has to be done more.

[Royal]

Question : Forgive or not ?
Vopros : Prostit ili net ?
Savol : Kechirish kerakmi yoki yoqmi ?

Agarda turmush ortoq togri yoldan adashib boshqasi bilan bolsa, bu ish qaerdan malum boldi unga shunday bolganligi haqida ozi etganmi demak shu etishini ozidan malumki ularni ortasida bir norozilik bor. Huddi bir-biridan bir narsadan kongli tolmaganligi uchun. Birinchi bolib kechirish va kechirmaslikdan oldin asosiy narsa nima uchun shu ish sodir boldi shuni bilish kerak.

Kechirmasdan erdan ajrab ketaverish bilan ish bitmaydi .

Hamma bir ish qilsa oziga qiladi birovga emas, uoki birov uchun emas, Nima qilsa osha qaytadi - Nima eksangh oshani orasan.

1.Oila qurish sababi nima ozi ?
2.Farzand korish sababi nima ?
3.Bu farzandga/larga ota-ona bolish sababi nima ?

Inson hayotdagi yolini topishi kerak, yani olloh-taolo korsatgan togri yolni.
Bu hayotda oz javobgarligini bilishi kerak, chunga ularni ham ota-onalari orgatishlari kerak , chunki AVLODlarini togri yolga boshlash ota-onani javobgarligidir, agar birortasi bir nomaqul ish qilsa halqimiz birinchi bolib uni otasini qarqhaydi "PADARINGA MING LANAT SANI" deb.

Har qanday insonni ham qolidan keladi farzandli bolish inshoalloh, lekin shu farzandlarni togri yolga boshlash asosiy javobgarlik.
Shundan ayonki : "hamma uyida korganini qiladi"

Agar farzandlarini bir ozi voyaga etkazib togri yolga sola bilsalar , unda oila qurushni nima keragi bor , doctorga borib suniy ravishda urughlantirib yurishsa ham bolardi. Ona keyin ularga nima deydi : Sizlar probirkadan bolgansizlar debmi.

Ayol kishi har doim va har qanday sharoitda oilada bir paghona pastroq turishi kerak, shunda oila saqlanib qoladi.

[Sunny Eternity]

I can understand , sorry really not understand but I see how badly sometimes man treat their woman, but what I raelly don't understand why women treat badly other woman? I mean relationship b/w mother in law and doughter in law in uzbek families. This is really prolem, ther r sometimes really behave like gestapo, and pooor young girls should accept it, ****ing relationships tHIS IS REALLY SLAVERY, ISN'T It?

[trigger-happy]

It's all husband's fault! He should either talk to his mother and wife and sort it out, or make enough money to have a separate house or apartment. The problem is, a lot of young men get married without really loving or respecting their wives. That's why they will always take mothers' side, and the wife will be the outsider in her husband's family. Girls shouldn't get married without getting to know their future husband and his family first, and make sure that love and respect are mutual. Unfortunately, it's become somewhat of a fashion trend to marry the first guy who proposes.

Most of the Uzbek women do not understand how to deal with their young daughter-in-laws. they don't realize that by making them miserable, they are making their sons miserable. There are mother-in-laws who do not learn from their mistakes. There is a saying 'keep both hands occupied by holhing your mouth and back then everything else will be ok' ;it applys to when you have to deal with your daughter-in-law and son-in-law. Instead of managing young women to be fit to their new family, mother-in-laws compete or try to reverse them from their family.
These things happen because a lot of women are not educated. They were miserable daughter-in-laws then they are miserable mother-in-laws. They know nothing else.
Alot of Uzbek women have very-very difficult lives. BEEN THERE,DONE THAT.

[trigger-happy]

Most of the Uzbek women do not understand how to deal with their young daughter-in-laws. they don't realize that by making them miserable, they are making their sons miserable. There are mother-in-laws who do not learn from their mistakes. There is a saying 'keep both hands occupied by holhing your mouth and back then everything else will be ok' ;it applys to when you have to deal with your daughter-in-law and son-in-law. Instead of managing young women to be fit to their new family, mother-in-laws compete or try to reverse them from their family.
These things happen because a lot of women are not educated. They were miserable daughter-in-laws then they are miserable mother-in-laws. They know nothing else.
Alot of Uzbek women have very-very difficult lives. BEEN THERE,DONE THAT.
Personal question that you don't have to answer if you don't want to. Did you manage to solve problems with your mother in law? (I assume you've had them by your "been there, done that" conclusion.) If so, what method did you use in solving them?

[Sunny-Eternity]

I have an example. I think it's relevant one.

Y menya podrujka vishla za muj. Do svad'bi tipa vse super sovremennie i civilizovannie,s obrazovaniem. Posle svad,bi okazivaetsya im bila nujna slujanka bez kakogo-libo mneniya i prava golosa. Kogda Ya uvidela ruki svoey podrugi gde-to posle 1,5 mesyca posle svad'bi mne stalo strashno. Ona ubiraetsya na etom dolbanom uchastke kajdiy den', uchenie im ne nujni-slova svekrovi.
A esli chto ne nravitsya dver' vsegda otkrita.A sin chmoshnik natural'niy, s pontom mujik, chut' chto sprosi chto mama skajet tak i budet.
Kstati uchilsya v US, vrode doljen bil perenyt hot' kakie-to ustoi zapadnogo obshestva.
Ya ey govoru, da plun' ti na vse, zachem tebe nujna takaya jizn' k chertu. No kak teper' ona vernetsya v mahallu, chto ludi skajut.
Koroche seychas y nee est' rebenok, a otnoshenie eshe huje, teper' tipa komu ona nujna.

Dumau zdes mnogoe zavisit i ot roditeley devochki. Ya bi davno ee zabrala ee iz etogo ada.

P.S. Ochen izvestnie i uvajaemie sem'i v Tashkente, kstati

[[Female] Guest]

Sunny,
thanks for your reply. I appraciate it. If you have more comments please share with us.

rahmat,
Belly Dancer ;)

[Sunny-eternity]

[Female] Guest: d83500ec,

Nice. arzimidi. Hursand man chto you have appreciated it and it's not boring.
Most of my personal experience have the same outcomes or opinions. It's always about man's inability to expreess their opinion to their mothers.
Even if they really try hard it's not for a long time, kind of blood voice will take revenge. anyway I think it's depend on you.
If the girl is financialy independent, I mean not depends on her husband and family's money it's easy for her to solve many problems, but still there are some...........

A esli chestno , blin, izdevalis' svekrovi, izdevautsya i budut prodoljat' v tom je duhe.
Vot chego ya ne ponimau chestno, eto otnosheniya mnogih roditeley k dannoy probleme, tipa zamyt', proyvit' uzbekskyu diplomatiu.Was involved in negotiations by myself ((not a diplomat at all, cruppy deal). I esli naprimer svekrov' ili muj izbili molodyu nevestku, Ya dumau, I hardly believe, chto nado i muju dam po mozgam i svekrovi. No zachastyu zalovki chasto tozhe podlivaut maslo v ogon', im osobenno ne jivetsya spokoino, tak vot dat' im vsem po mozgam.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:twisted:

[Sobir]

Womenlar ko'pincha qishloq joylarda nigger bo'lishadi. Shahardagilarini ularga nisbatan ancha omadlari chopgan!

[[Female] Guest]

sobir:

o'zingiz qaterdansiz? shahar yoki qishloq?...

[Sunny-eternity]

Sobir,

Before I 've thought the same. Nea. V kishloke oni konechno pahaut kak "negri", no zachastyu svekrov' tozhe pashet takje, da i ludi v kishloke poproshe i po dobree budut. A v Tashkente, vse s pontom obrazovannie i uhitryutsya pridumivat izdevatel'stva poslojnee. Tak chto I am not agree...

Udachi

[[Female] Guest]

Good points Sunny.

[Sobir]

Salom [Female] Guest: d83500ec,
Qattanga uhshayman? Qishloqda i-net bomi uzi?
Bilmadim yahshimi yomonmi shaharda tug'ilib shaharda o'sganman!

[sunny -eternity]

Sobir,
hey Sobir,

i am not going to say that in uzbek kishloq life is better or not so much pressing and in tashkent is sux. I am from Tashkent and I was grow up in Tashkent and I am completely Tashkent person. But, I 've visited uzbek kishloqs many times, common it's not a big deal.And I can make some comparisons.........

Peace

[[Female] Guest]

Sunny,

yep you are right. i also grew up in tashkent and have seen all kinds of brutalities towards kelin and her family... i have aslo witnessed kelins' situations in qishloqs and it is not that bad compared to kelins' in tashkent, unfortunately...

Sobir,

:) qishloda internet bomi uzi deyishizdan qattanligiz bilinib turibdi. javobizga qarab savol bermoqchiydim xolos. no need to be guffy. but forget about it.

[[Female] Guest]

correction: goofy

:)

[Delta]

:super:

[[Female] Guest]

delta,
in US men are not slaves. i dont' know what you wanted to say with your reply.

see you

[Delta]

gone

[Sunny-Eternity]

Kruto!! Mne ponravilos'

[trigger-happy]

Delta,

Who you been hanging with? Sounds like a horror movie. :D

American families that I know have about 50/50 ration of man/woman power. The guys at work make themselves sandwiches for lunch, but that's because their wives work full-time too and make their lunches and ones for the kids. One guy used to call it a day at 4:00 PM every Thursday because of his daughter's soccer practice, but his wife did the same for their son's Little League practice.

I can imagine the situations you have described occuring in the lowest social strata, but women's terrible treatment of men is balaced by domestic violence toward women that is prevalent in the same circles.

And don't forget, that women even in America still make less than men for the same work, so family responsiblities are not distributed evenly, let alone favorably for women.

P.S. What's wrong with taking turns to do dishes :?:

[Delta]

mmm horror :)

[[Female] Guest]

Thanks for you comments everybody. Appraciate it.

Btw, Delta, how do you know how many families I have seen? Do you think I have only seen 2, because I am a WOMAN? Hmm, that was weird. :) Anyways, I respect your opinions, but it does not mean that I agree with them. Keep commenting. :super:

[Delta]

grrr

[[Female] Guest]

Delta,

maybe you were in a bad mood when you were replying this posting, which made the reply sort of "qo'pol". but you knew and know that somethings you said there, are not quite right. and i agree with trigger's arguments. i have seen and heard here, how men treat thier women badly and vice versa. ko'p gapirishga hojat yo'q menimcha. it is your choice whether you want to stop replying or not. i have no POWER over you ;).

belly dancer

[Yozuvchi]

What's wrong with taking turns to do dishes


trigger-happy,

:? :? :?

[u]

nega amerikadey joyda ayol prezidentla bumagan va hoziram yuq???
hmm is it really 50/50????

nega amerikadey joyda ayol prezidentla bumagan va hoziram yuq???
hmm is it really 50/50????

Recent estimates of the gender equality index in UK revealed that after 203 years women will carry the same weight as men in terms of probability to run forr higher official positions

nega amerikadey joyda ayol prezidentla bumagan va hoziram yuq???
hmm is it really 50/50????

Recent estimates of the gender equality index in UK revealed that after 203 years women will carry the same weight as men in terms of probability to run forr higher official positions

Almost forgot to add, this only applies to EU, Australia, America and other "democratic" countries.

[eh delta]

eh,eng yahsi postlaringni o'chirip tashapsan

[eto ya]

delta why did you do that?

hmm.................

[Delta_off]

sorry,
i realized it was not worth it, life is too short to worry about those things.
i'm sorrry again.

[[Female] Guest]

so you realized it after you wrote it...?

best

[Delta]

:?

[[Female] Guest]

delta it was just a question out of a curiousity, nothing personal.

i hope you are doing alright and wish that things work for you.

best in your life

[Delta]

http://www.irex.org


Nargiza Khodjaeva, Uzbekistan
US Host Institution: American Association of Suicidology
US Internship Institution: Rescue Mental Health Services

Suicide and Open Society (http://www.irex.org/programs/ci/spotlight/aug-dec01/khodjaeva.pdf)



Albina Komachkova, Uzbekistan
US Host Institution: School of Public Health, University of Michigan
Women's Health and Social Stability (http://www.irex.org/programs/ci/spotlight/aug-dec01/komachkova.pdf)

[mda]

bla bla bla lalalala what' s lovvveee lalala?

[Hippy]

Check these out

[Hippy]

This one too

[Bittasi]

May the Allmighty help the poor men of the Planet WOMEN.

[HattaB]

mdaa...shuncha muammolar turganda uzbek ayollari bunaqa revolutsiya haqida hayol surishvotti. Erkaklarning chap tomondagi bitta qovurgasi qaerga ketganini yahshi bilasila :D
Nega endi, ba'zilar etgandek uzbek yigitlari bu sohada amerikadan urnak olishlari kerak? Nega uzimizni uzbekcha Kumushbibi bilan Otabeklar ideal bo'lolmaydi? Indan keyin man sizga etsam, bunaqa gaplarga hali juda erta.
Qurbaqa experimentini eshitganmisila.
Agar qurbaqani qaynab turgan suvga tashlasa, u darhol tashqariga sakrab chiqadi, yana qaytarib tashlasa, yana qaytib chiqadi, bu hol qurbaqa holdan toyguncha davom etaveradi. Lekin agar, qurbaqani sovuq suvga solib, keyin asta sekinlik bilan tagidan qizdirsa, qaynab sho'rva bolguncha ham indamay utiraveradi.
Buni aytishimdan maqsad, hurmatli uzbek ayollari, shoshilmanglar, bunaqa uzgarishlarni ko'tara olmaysizlar hali.... ahir yaqindagina (hali 100 yil ham bulgani yoq) paranjidan qutuldinglar. Ha endi, sizlar hohlayotgan sharoitlar ham asta sekinlik bilan bo'lib qolar, musulmonchilik asta sekin deyishadiku, bu ish biz erkaklarning kelayotgan 1000 yillikdagi rejalarimizning eng asosiylaridan biri. Qolaversa, hozirgi statistika boyicha erkaklar kamayib ketvotti, bu Uzbekistonda ham kuzatilyapti, qaeqqa qarasang faqat qiz tugilvotti. Yaqinda dunyodagi ko'p davlatlarning armiyalarining asosiy qismini amazonkalar tashkil qiladigan zamon keladiganga o'hshaydi. :D

Bir hazillashdimdee :D

Man endi borib bir puleneprobivaemiy jilet zakaz qili...har ehtimolga qarshide :D shuncha gapdan keyin bilib bo'ladimi...

PS: Hippy qoyil, gap yoq lekin... Ayol kishi 2 so'mlik umuman keraksiz narsani 1 so'mga oladi, erkak kishi kerakli 2 so'mlik narsani 2 so'mga oladi

[nycratkiller]

Never in the history of Uzbek womanhood, a woman spoke out more than in this posting.
Bravo (lol)

[trigger-happy]

Never in the history of Uzbek womanhood, a woman spoke out more than in this posting.
Bravo (lol)
What about "Kelinlar qozgoloni"? They spoke out alright. ;)

[badfish]

LET ALL WOMAN SPEAK AND RULE!!!!......................in their kitchen (xixi)

[Dunyokezganqalandar]

i think you are wrong
men control in day
women control in night!
women are more powerful than men and they have more contribution to history
because they are smarter !
and smart person know if they want high level, they should keep themselves one step behind men and men respect them, after that atually men are one step behind women.
that's why i and everybody love women.(not only because of sexual attracting) :!:

[trigger-happy]

that's why i and everybody love women.(not only because of sexual attracting) :!:
Really??? :? :) ;)

[badfish]

that's why i and everybody love women.(not only because of sexual attracting) :!:
Really??? :? :) ;)

Not applicable to average American women.

Remember that song "American women" .... :)

really, reallytrigger-happy,

[Monik]

Hahahaha, of course women are smarter. They can be nice to men & at the same time they can control them.
Actually, I have no thoughts regarding the poor condition of women in Uzbekistan, but it is all because of social pressure. Damn those men who don't respect their wife, a mother of their children. Women should also put themselves in an appropriate place in family.
Actually, I didn't like this topic.

[Dunyokezganqalandar]

i think it is bad topic against women
because it breaks the spirit of uzbek women :x :rolleyes: