Reason for War on Iraq?

[noodles]

Reason for War on Iraq?

[Alouddin]

how can I vote for last 4 options? :evil: i believe those are the REAL reasons....

[noodles]

Vote for the option that you think the most appropriate.

[Alouddin]

that's what i did :)

[spoon]

по моему, Сша пока не преследуют желание доминировать мировое господство.
Их сейчас больше беспокоет економическая ситуация внутри страны.
Страна находится в полном дауне.
Уровень безработницы возрасло на 2.3% по сравнению с прошлом годом.
На биржевые рынках также падают большинство акции крупных компании, инвесторы не хотят вкладывать деньги в економику.
На фоне всего происходящего, в сша постепенно повышается цена на нефть.
Все ето отражается страхом на крупные нефтяные компании, которые договорочно повышают цены.
Что касается войны в Ираке, то скорее ее уже не избежать.
Сша уже не остановятся на достигнутом, они не позволят себе собрать свои войска и вернуть их обратно, хотя бы разом не ударив по Ираку.
Исход войны также сильно повлияет на будущее сотрудничество европейских партнеров с сша.
Но все же, я надеюсь на мирное и благополучное решение данного конфликта на ближнем востоке.

[noodles]

Aleek, I consider that this another step of US towarded to dominate the East, as it did the same with Afghanistan. But, Iraq never will be as Afghanistan. US is trying to spread its power, influence on this territory. First, US thought that world community would suuport US led war against Iraq but as abvious 3 of permanent members of the Security Council rejected its draft resolution.(for e.g: Minister of Foreign Affairs of Russia - Igor Ivanov said: "It won't pass!..." and so on...) After that G.Bush openly declared that US won't wait for SC's agreement for the "security" of "his" US. What will happen next, time shows.

[Kolobok]

Hi Avaz,
Again,you have rised very interesting question here.
Why people don't understand, NoOne wants War!? Nor US nor UK
All they are asking for is,just to get rid off those WMD & that's it.
And by the way,do you really think US gives a damn about UN's resolution?! :?

[Mr Perfect]

I believe that the main reason for going to war against Iraq and invading it, is to get hold of greater control over middle east. This will not only allow the US to controll natural resources, but also to stabilize Middle east and fight "Terrorism" (as US prefers to call) more effectively.

[noodles]

Kolobok,

And by the way,do you really think US gives a damn about UN's resolution?!
that's what G.Bush thinks.I am not sure will US do so or not, but US may do so, as Bush said that he won't wait for UN's approval on this matter. But it'll be one of the most serious wrong of US.
I think that US will not be able to go against UN's resolution and I barely believe that there may be a war.

[spoon]

По последним данным США посоветовали инспекторам покинуть Ирак. Похоже что на этой неделе все начнется.

С самого начало было ясно, что Бушу наплевать на ООН и ее резолюции по поводу вопроса о войны в Ираке. Хотя, что бы не делала ООН, исход войны от этого бы не сильно поменялся. ООН уже давно утратила свою силу по решению и влияния в политические и дипломатические вопросы и морально устарела как механизм запчасти автомобиля, которая после долгих лет второй мировой войны просто утратила свою силу-мощь как всемирная организация. ООН больше не имеет никакого интереса США.
А мне кажется что потом может быть гораздо хуже. Что вместо Хусейна появится другой более кровожадный, более умный, более зверский, а не дай Бог не один, не дай Бог их тысячи появится. Новые террористы? Тысячи лишеных семей, детей, будущего, просто за то что прилетели Американцы побомбили их дома и семьи, постреляли и улетели.
Они будут ходить следом за США обвешанные взрывчаткой, они будут просто мстить. Месть в их понимании - будет иметь такое же нормальное явление, как у нас вежливость.

Канада не поддержит военную акцию против Ирака
17.03.2003 23:11 | Газета.ru


Канада не примет участия в военной акции против Ирака. "Если военная акция начнется без новой резолюции Совета Безопасности, Канада не примет участия в ней", - заявил премьер-министр Жан Кретьен, выступая в парламенте. Заявление Кретьена вызвало бурные аплодисменты.


PS: Вам не противно, когда вы слышите на НАШИХ улицах обезьяньи вопли типа "wow!, "super!" и прочую чушь унижающую наш язык? Вам не противно ходить в американские макдональдсы, пожирать низкосортный мусор американской индустрии от которых толстеет задница и растет живет? А фильмы? Как вам влияние "голливудской фантастики и вранье" на наше сознание?

Я не говорю о подлиных шедеврах, фильмах Голливуда. Я говорю о тупой американской кино, дешевых фильмов, которые крутят наши телеканалы, от которых тупеет наша молодежь, на сознание, которой выливается тонны грязных сцен, насилия и секса.

А как насчёт ИХ патриотизма, которым пропитано все - начинаяя с пирожков с тухлым сыром и заканчивая майками в стиле I LOVE NY? Наши дети, поглощают это все по своей незрелости, принимают за чистую монету и искренне считают америку, которую они никогда не видели раем на земле...

[Bush gives Saddam 48 hour]

WASHINGTON, March 17 — President Bush threw down a gauntlet Monday night to Saddam Hussein, giving him and his sons 48 hours to flee Iraq or face a massive U.S.-led invasion.

source: http://www.msnbc.com/news/842500.asp?0cv=CA01

[Odil R.]

Just hold your breath and prepare for a war. It is inevitable now. Although it was inevitable yesterday. It was an original idea of the administration. Trying to get a UN SC consent was just a show; playing good and decent guys, but as soon as they see no way of getting UN SC authorization, they set a deadline. End of democracy, tolerance and diplomacy.

There are two scenarios now.

1) Everything goes smooth; Saddam is killed with less casualties and the Iraqi opposition comes to power, the UN lifts the sanctions. In this case all who opposed the US will lose.

2) US fails the operation. This is the worst situation for everybody.

[Alouddin]

2) US fails the operation. This is the worst situation for everybody. Dear Mr. Ruzaliev,

how, do you think, this will happen?..

yours,

Observer

[spoon]

1) Everything goes smooth; Saddam is killed with less casualties and the Iraqi opposition comes to power, the UN lifts the sanctions. In this case all who opposed the US will lose.

Nobody will lose but Russia with its potential down of oil export.

[noodles]

Guest: df95726a,
PS: Вам не противно, когда вы слышите на НАШИХ улицах обезьяньи вопли типа "wow!, "super!" и прочую чушь унижающую наш язык? Вам не противно ходить в американские макдональдсы, пожирать низкосортный мусор американской индустрии от которых толстеет задница и растет живет? А фильмы? Как вам влияние "голливудской фантастики и вранье" на наше сознание?

Я не говорю о подлиных шедеврах, фильмах Голливуда. Я говорю о тупой американской кино, дешевых фильмов, которые крутят наши телеканалы, от которых тупеет наша молодежь, на сознание, которой выливается тонны грязных сцен, насилия и секса.

А как насчёт ИХ патриотизма, которым пропитано все - начинаяя с пирожков с тухлым сыром и заканчивая майками в стиле I LOVE NY? Наши дети, поглощают это все по своей незрелости, принимают за чистую монету и искренне считают америку, которую они никогда не видели раем на земле...
:) the same thing I read last year when another fire was set between Palestine and Israel. Like demands of Palestinians to the world communtiy support Palestinians. So again the same shit.

yeah, US is really going straight on its dirty policy...damn..it'd be great honour to brim US into Atlantic ocean :)

[noodles]

"If they were to wage a massive attack upon Iraq - apart from the fact that if they did it without Security Council approval it would be against international law - in practical terms, a massive attack like that ... would lose them the moral high ground completely."

"I think the world would be outraged, which is why, if there is to be ... enforcement action ... it should be done only with the approval of the Security Council."
-said Butler, a former Australian diplomat who headed the UN weapons inspection team withdrawn from Iraq in 1998.


And here is the exerpt from cases against and for US attack (http://www.noiraqwar.org/case.htm) on Iraq.

We have broken our word.

We have refused to honor treaties we have signed, and we have violated others.

We have abrogated our obligations under the Anti Ballistic Missile treaty.

We are about to violate the terms of the UN charter by pre-emptively attacking another nation.

We have thumbed our noses at the rest of the world and declared that we will do whatever we wish to do, regardless of anything anyone else says.
.............................
.............................

Shortly, US doesn't care about International Law, about UN, about the world community. But US's mask-reason to attack Iraq is: "Iraq is violating human rights in its own territory and breaking international regulative norms", sounds funny, huh?! On the one hand US admits the existance of IL on the other hand, he doesn't give a damn about it cancerning it own interests and hegemony.
http://www.globalissues.net/images/CatPics/iraqitank.jpg

[noodles]

THE UNITED NATIONS CHARTER AND THE USE OF FORCE AGAINST IRAQ

The United Nations Charter is a treaty of the United States, and as such forms part of the "supreme law of the land" under the Constitution, Article VI, Clause 2. The UN Charter is the highest treaty in the world, superseding states’ conflicting obligations under any other international agreement. (Art. 103, UN Charter)



Under the UN Charter, there are only two circumstances in which the use of force is permissible: in collective or individual self-defense against an actual or imminent armed attack; and when the Security Council has directed or authorized use of force to maintain or restore international peace and security. Neither of those circumstances now exist. Absent one of them, U.S. use of force against Iraq is unlawful.

Detailed here (http://www.lcnp.org/global/iraqstatement3.htm)...

And also a Presidential War would violate the US Constitution.

In order to protect against reckless and ill-considered wars, the framers of the US Constitution gave war-making powers to the Congress, not the President. Only Congress the branch of government closest to the people can declare war and appropriate tax funds to pay for a war. Any military move against Iraq should be put to a vote of Congress. Congress is opposing to war, it means the whole nation is opposing except President. G.Bush is aware of this protests against the US war, that's why he's hushing, for him it's much better to start the war as soon as possible so that no one will be able to stop him later.

[Odil R..]

1) Everything goes smooth; Saddam is killed with less casualties and the Iraqi opposition comes to power, the UN lifts the sanctions. In this case all who opposed the US will lose.

Nobody will lose but Russia with its potential down of oil export.

Well, France will lose too. If a pro-American government comes to power in Iraq, they won't let France do any oil business there under pressure from the US.

[quote]
Odil R. wrote:
2) US fails the operation. This is the worst situation for everybody.
Dear Mr. Ruzaliev,

how, do you think, this will happen?..

yours,

Observer

Well, I don't think Americans fully realize all the consequences. Several things may happen.

1) Iraq uses its chemical and biological weapons against attacking troops or Israel somehow extensively;

2) Worldwide protest of Muslims may fuel the creation of more suicide-bombers in the world;

3) US has illusions of trying to build democracy in Iraq. The history has shown that there can't be democracy in the Middle East as long as the US pursues double standards: they need to change their policy on the Palestinian issue.

4) US causes mass human casualties and naturally the worldwide protests.

And many more things.

People in forum be realistic!
Of course war is not a solution to bring peace for world but eather leaving Saddam is not good for Iraq and its fate under fool dictator!

Invasion of Iraq and removal of Saddam is good for the futur of Iraq and its people! And those countries which is voting for vato are losers who is left without oil and threatned by the possibelity of sharp oil price drope!

Most effected loser is Russia and its oil companies who is left without stake!

[joe parker]

otkritoe pis'mo paulo coelho prezidentu bushu (http://www.centrasia.ru/news2.php4?news=view&st=1048025400)

[SayFuLLoH]

Kak stalo izvestno voyna nachnetca 19 matra etogo goda!
Vopros v tom skolka proderjitca Iraq,protiv UK@US?

[Kolobok]

+/- 72 hours

[noodles]

_vjik_,
Vopros v tom skolka proderjitca Iraq,protiv UK@US?
I give my opinion, not sure how long will this last BUT if it is going to last at least a year then US will be down. In Vietnam US cleared off in time, otherwise the consequences of that war wouldn't be so nice as it was. US acted smarter then USSR. Because USSR walked out in Afghanistan almost 20 years, that's why it lost many of its power and potentiality. So if US-Iraq war will last at least a year, US will go down.

[noodles]

Well, Kurds are not caring just about their homes and motherland but also about some petrol sources of Iraq.
Here more detailed (http://www.ntv.ru/news/index.jsp?nid=16757)

[noodles]

Как передает агентство РБК, со ссылкой на телекомпанию CNN, новый удар по Ираку будет нанесен в 20 часов по московскому времени. В Вашингтоне в это время полдень.
Here (http://www.ntv.ru/news/)

It'll be approximately after 1 hours and 5 minutes. And it'll categorically differ from the debute one.

[Royal]

Dears

I think this war is not only for the just OIL resources, main question to stabilize the U$ Dollar againsta Euro, Yen. Becouse as You people wrote only USA & UK is in favor of the war, Who was against ? France, Germany, Spain, Greece they are in EC and they get together to protect the Turkey if Turkey helps US army for that
takes over oil fields Kurd territories of IRAQ, EC would like to do business with Turkey instead of US, this IRAQ war is 2nd part old spectacle of Sr.

[noodles]

Royal: 2760655f, How and from what they can protect Turkey? And how do you get that Turkey will get oil fields in Kurd territory? I guess US won't allow Turkey to do so, because Turkey is helping US as US offered 6 billions of dollars in grant or up to 20 billions of dollars in loan.

[Royal]

US never gives any money to anyone just like that, untill know UZB could't get they money.

Turkey's first question was in case of war , becouse US war planes fly from Engirlik Air base so IRAQ start chasing them back to Turkey and war games could spreaded in they territories and to protect the kurdish land from turkish army who is also intention to join the US army to occupy the Northern part .

Turkey could't get a penny from US in cash, becouse all the money will be in material based, like importing to US Turkey industrial good can get favored nations duty discounts, if Turkey purchasing US industrial products can get special duty discounts or issued certain dotations to them . This everything is counts from pennys to billion dollars - this is simple business.

Turkey ask that money as help to they economy , but I don't think so that anyone in the world is interested to develope Turkeys economy ??? Same is with Uzbekistan.

[noodles]

US never gives any money to anyone just like that, untill know UZB could't get they money.
UZB got it :)


Turkey ask that money as help to they economy , but I don't think so that anyone in the world is interested to develope Turkeys economy ???

Not Turkey asked for money , US offered as bargain. And there's nothing about development in Turkish economy.

And I can't say exactly wether Turkey will be able to get them in cash or not. Anyways, Parliament just voted on it. And it just to begin.

[Royal]

Max,

Turkey was agreed from the beginning , but EC start to trigger them to get more share from IRAQ war compain. US was agreed only with money but any consequences after, Turkey should handled, main question was on this issue for the Turkey, France & Germany agreed to help Turkey to protect (not for nothing)

[noodles]

Sponge Bob, I don't think that Bush will go for war just for revenge. But this maybe revenge but not for that reason.

Royal: cc5ff426, Turkey has also many times acted against Iraq and they also used terrible weapons on them, so US could blame Turkey as well, why not? That's why it also served as a puch up!

[Royal]

Max, Turkey has also many times acted against Iraq and they also used terrible weapons on them, so US could blame Turkey as well, why not? That's why it also served as a puch up!

Please, First of all Turkey has elected Goverment - always some information could breakup to mass media,, Irag has dictatorship.

Try to watch the BBC and CNN to have more info, also that info like "fog",

Who cares that Turkey use on kurd "terrible weapons", Turkeys & Irags "terrible weapons" was supplied by them in own time, about that every time inspectors come with report that they could't find anything they say "look better" must be there, Inspectors listed all the bio-chem equipments and they are MADE in there".
Main point for them "who cares when to brothers killing each other" and they sell "terrible weapons" to them , could you tell me here which side is lost they mind. WAR is business, untill today US was not agree for turkey's enter to nirag and plains was flying from (not from tuker as next door) Eng. any doubts ? main object is here that turkey should not get they hand to n.irag oil field, but turkey not stupid , they assabled kurdish division 1500 of them pas the n.irag border, for that in CNN they was torturing the turkey embasador, with this turkey trying to get to points, 1 point in this campaign they start own operation 'free n.irags kurdistan" and only kurd-soldiers from turkey will be send there! After the ware over that kurd may ask the separation as they doing for sow many years, turkey easiliy put on they neck certain $$$ billions to they neck, also same thing gonna do France & Germany. So poor kurds will have they freedom but , whatever they will generate in face $$ will go to Turkey & EC pockets for several decades. This is much more that the chess movements.

[Quick]

Whatever is the reason its all good for the Iraqy people and its fate!

[noodles]

Quick: 6f88a287, How it could be good for Iraqis?

[spoon]

народ, временно отвлекитесь слегка от новостей и поглядите:

смотрим почтовый ящик Джордж буша. Внимательно смотрите на все детали :)
http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/picturejokes/7471.gif

[spoon]

27.03.2003, Вашингтон 02:27:38. США не позволят ООН осуществлять контроль над послевоенным обустройством Ирака. Такое заявление сделал госсекретарь США Колин Пауэлл, выступая в подкомитете палаты представителей американского конгресса, сообщает ABC News.

"Мы и наши союзники не стали бы взваливать на себя бремя по свержению режима Хусейна, если бы не были уверены, что сможем впоследствии контролировать ситуацию в Ираке, а новое иракское правительство будет полностью поддерживаться коалицией", - подчеркнул он.

В то же время американский дипломат отметил, что ООН должна быть отведена роль в постсаддамовском обустройстве Ирака, но только потому, что это поможет другим странам "внести свою финансовую лепту в реконструкцию страны".

Вот оно как! Все становится на свои места!
Разбомбят все к черту, нефть заберут, а востанавливать страну будет ООН.

[Pax]

that's what i did :)
Yeah, and why don't you introduce a... let's say... a ranging poll sheet?

I think the foremost reason is the (1)desire to dominate...perhaps eternally, and to (2)control the oil resources as one means of it. Thus it's the second!
The list goes on.... and the last will be "to disarm" Iraq, for, they really intetend it, but no so much as that come above.

Why don't you modarator enhance polls, so that they refelect our attitudes better??

[spoon]

Pax-Americana
How do you want us to "enhance" it?

[fox]

America as a model for the world (c) Kenneth Waltz

:)

Ирак: первые дни агрессии
Как и чем бомбят Ирак
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Как и чем бомбят Ирак


Вспомогательная группировка кораблей в Средиземном море


JBU – одна из тех бомб, которые союзники сбрасывают на улицы Багдада


На теле самой бомбы этикетки отсутствуют


Бомбы тщательно закрепляют под крылом


Подвозятся "сайдвиндоры", ракеты "воздух-воздух".


В комфортабельной комнате для инструктажа собираются пилоты


Пилот застегивает комбинезон, надевает шлем и уходит бомбить Ирак



Вспомогательная группировка кораблей в Средиземном море, а это 40 транспортов, перебрасывается в Персидский залив. Это сообщение британской корпорации Би-Би-Си. Впрочем, авианосцы "Теодор Рузвельт" и "Гарри Трумэн" с якоря не снимаются. Палубная авиация совершает налеты на Ирак по-прежнему из Восточного Средиземноморья через территорию Турции. Боеприпасы - будь то лазерного или спутникового наведения - все равно несут смерть мирному населению. Суммарная мощь только одного ночного удара по Багдаду превосходит, по мнению ряда военных экспертов, мощь всех подобных операций со времен Второй Мировой Войны.

JBU – одна из тех бомб, которые союзники сбрасывают на улицы Багдада, весит 2 тысячи фунтов и стоит 6 тысяч долларов. Когда спрашиваешь, где здесь боеголовка, отвечают: это все боеголовка. Нет такого здания, в котором эта "малышка" не могла бы проделать дырки, шутят люди в красном, сотрудники оружейного департамента. Но вот что удивительно, сегодня на бомбах нет лазерных прицелов. То ли за навигацию будет отвечать спутник, то ли оккупационные войска всерьез готовятся к ковровым бомбардировкам.

Правда, наверное, и в том, и в другом. Точная, но все же менее аккуратная по сравнению с лазерной, система спутникового наведения действительно вмонтирована в оперение бомбы. Сигнал из космоса принимается специальным микрочипом, а тот действует на стабилизаторы, отклоняя их вправо или влево. На каждой такой насадке фабричное клеймо – "Сделано в Сент-Луисе, использовать до июля 2022". На теле самой бомбы этикетки отсутствуют. И часто товарный вид заставляет задуматься о сроке годности. Хотя едва ли тут думают о правах потребителя.

Серые, похожие на сигары бомбы, тщательно закрепляют под крылом. За ними подвозятся "сайдвиндоры", ракеты "воздух-воздух". Самые мощные -"Финикс", "Маверик" и ракеты средней дальности "Амраам". Механики готовят к вылету Ф-14 "Томкэт" и Ф-18 "Хорнэт". Неспешно моют стекла. Над авианосцем висит радуга. Тем временем в комфортабельной комнате для инструктажа собираются пилоты. Интеллигентные люди среднего возраста, есть даже летчицы - воплощение американской мечты о равноправии полов. Основное задание каждому уже известно, но в зале есть телекамеры, с помощью которых, листая слайды электронным пультом, можно уточнить последние детали.

"Нам предстоит уничтожить две основные цели - иракский аэродром и штаб-квартиру одного из ведомств, – говорят летчики. – Это здание уже было повреждено. Оно относится к комплексу правительственных сооружений. Мы используем GPS – спутниковое наведение, обеспечивающее большую точность. Мы специально берем ракеты поменьше размером и снабдили их такими приспособлениями, которые ограничивают площадь взрыва размерами цели".

В зале сразу несколько боевых звеньев с условными названиями - Быки, Фехтовальщики и Шахматисты. Последние приготовления. Пилот молча застегивает комбинезон, надевает шлем с эмблемой своего звена и уходит бомбить Ирак.

В этот момент на авианосце на какое-то время заканчивается свобода слова. Вводится эмбарго на разглашение любой информации, связанной с полетами, да и вообще на все телефонные звонки, прямые включения и электронную почту и Интернет. Мотивировка – безопасность пилотов. Правда, поговаривают, что первое эмбарго было введено после того, как одна из телекомпаний показала в прямом эфире взлет боевого самолета еще до официального объявления об атаке. Якобы это увидел сам Томми Фрэнкс. Работа журналистов возобновляется только тогда, когда бомбардировщики садятся на палубу.

"Мы наносили точечные удары по западной части Багдада, – говорит адмирал Джон Стафолбин. – Нашими целями стали военные объекты и ряд правительственных зданий. Мы можем сказать, что и на "Гарри Трумэне" и "Теодоре Рузвельте" миссия завершена успешно. Все самолеты вернулись на базу, повреждений не получил ни один".

Пилоты больше хотят спать, чем общаться с прессой. "Как выглядит война с высоты в несколько километров?" – "Так же, как обыкновенная географическая карта", – отвечают они. – Просто иногда над ней появляется дым".

[noodles]

Aleek, intersting :) (mailbox)

[spoon]

Max
What about my mailbox? http://smilies.sofrayt.com/%5E/r/auskosten.gif

[noodles]

Aleek, :) let's look at it first ;)

[spoon]

Max
xex, don't see any parallels here %)

[noodles]

lmao

[spoon]

результаты последних опросов в США: (по данным из сиэнн)

как вы относитесь к войне в Ираке? (3/29-3/30)

за - 70%
против - 27%

3/24-3/25 эти цифры были 71% - "за" и 27% - "против"

[Guardian]

There is a high risk of civil war in Iraq. :(

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4742188.stm

[Abu Hurayra]

There is a high risk of civil war in Iraq. :(

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4742188.stm

This is wellknown Old strategy of US Military and enemies of Islam.
Making all those bombings murderies theirself and claiming as if it was done by others.
In Islam there there is not any belief that allows to ruin Mosques and kill innocent people.
US wants Shia and Sunnies and other Iraqies to destroy one another.
Do they think that they were the smartest ones?
Nope...,


PS: Soon They will get what they deserve and ask for.;)

[Pinkie]

There is a high risk of civil war in Iraq. :(

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4742188.stm
There was always a high risk of civil war ever since this whole thing started :(. I wonder who the Americans will "help"...the Kurds?

[Bonik]

There was always a high risk of civil war ever since this whole thing started :(. I wonder who the Americans will "help"...the Kurds?

Eh Pinkie Pinkie... Americans will always HELP their pocket :)
they just bought some 3 more years of freely staying in Iraq by spreading this civil War :(

[ДЖИГИТ]

On March 18, Stop the “war on terrorism” by exposing the 911 Inside Job.

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Truth Goodall
Date Created
12 Mar 2006
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Do we really want to stop the slaughter that is taking place in Iraq? Do we really want to stop future wars in Syria, Iran and wherever else the globalists have set their sights to? Then we must expose the real perpetrators of 911 – elements within our own government who needed to fabricate a war for their global agenda.
http://www.sbindymedia.org/usermedia/image/10/expose_coverup.jpg
Why is accepting that 911 is an inside job so hard for so many Americans to accept? If they believed this administration lied to the American people to get us to support a war with Iraq than why not believe that this government would lie to the American people about what happened on 911? Why can you believe one set of lies and not another?

Oh, that’s right, this administration wouldn’t do something so sinister against their own people? Right? Wrong. They would and have. One thing to wrap your head around is that these people are not patriots in so far as serving the interests of the American people or protecting them. They are working for a global capitalists’ agenda, or a New World Order, as George Bush Sr. so eloquently announced on September 11, 1990 (see: www.sweetliberty.org/issues/war/bushsr.htm (http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/war/bushsr.htm))— one were corporate and banking interests take precedence over national sovereignty. 9/11 was their “false flag” to get the whole globalization process happening by getting the American people behind the new “war on terrorism” and to accept the derogation of civil liberties and the police state here at home.

Not only is there enough documented evidence to see them tried and convicted at the Hague (see Michael Ruppert’s Crossing the Rubicon and David Ray Griffin’s “911 Commission, Omissions and Distortions” for the evidence), but we have their own documents which shows their murderous mindset, documents like “Operation Northwoods”, which describes US forces attacking and killing Americans and then blaming others (in this case the Cubans) as a pretext for war and the Downing street memo.

If we are truly serious about stopping the war it is not enough to say “Stop the War!” or “Say no to Torture!” We must not legitimize the war by accepting the globalists premise that “arabs” did it, like so many in the left do, including Moveon.org and the Democrats.

As noted scholar Michel Chossudovski puts forward in his book “America’s War on Terrorism:

“Once the fundamental premise that the US Administration is committed to curbing international terrorism is accepted, these leftist intellectuals and civil society critics are invited to express their “reservations” regarding America’s conduct of the war, the impacts on civilians or their humanitarian concerns regarding the derogation of the Rule of Law.

In this ritual, the main justification for waging the war, which is a complete falsehood, is never questioned despite documented evidence that the “war on terrorism” is a fabrication. For instance, numerous NGOs have accused the Bush administration for having breached the 1949 Geneva Convention on the treatment of prisoners of war, yet these same organizations have failed to question the overall legitimacy of the Bush administration’s “war on terrorism.

While the “globalizers” are subjected to “constructive criticism”, their legitimate right to rule remains unchallenged. What this “left accommodation” and “civil society mingling” does is to reinforce the clutch of the military-intelligence elites and the corporate establishment, while weakening the real protest movement.”

Stop the War, expose the 911 treason.

www.911truth.org (http://www.911truth.org/)


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http://www.whatreallyhappened.com (http://www.whatreallyhappened.com)
http://www.ST911.org (http://www.st911.org/)