View Full Version : Will uzbekistan ever be able to create convertable currency?
Honest
03-16-2003, 02:45 AM
Now, for years we have being having problems with conversion. it has become a major obsticle for the investors to put any money into our economy. They feel risky than to any foriegn country cause they know, though they make some money in Uzbekistan, they wont be able to convert it to any convertible currency nor wont be able to take it out of the country. :?: now we have another compatative country "Afganistan" where most of the investors will be interested in to go, eventhough they have unstable government. But as long as their opportunities to earn they wont stop.
cheers,
Honest
CrazyDT
03-16-2003, 03:10 AM
Honest: af62d3fa,
Yes, Uzbek government is half way through, and working very hard. It established buying process, and now working on the other part. I know it's very encouraging. So, tune in the channel 2, and be happy. :)
CrazyDT
thanx for your comments, but we all know that what they show in TV is just propaganda and just to brainwash people!! in fact all the money given by US and other aids isn't reaching it's purpose, but going into officials wealth.
cheers,
CrazyDT
03-16-2003, 03:37 AM
Man, after so many discussions, and talks, sometime wanna put a bullet in my head blow it off. But no, we have to deal with this. I guess it's our life time challenge. Everyone wants good, but noon can do it anything. It's kinda Nobel prize challenge. Think, think, and maybe , maybe it's possible. I am optimistic about our future. I don't want to live abroad like a rat that fled a sinking boat, but I have to for now at least, and this is sad.
Honest
03-16-2003, 04:03 AM
i understand you my friend CrazyDT, i know how you feel, cause i feel the same way. i don't want to think about myself, because i have friends and a lot of people who are precious to me back in uzb. they suffer, they struggle for every peace of bread everyday. and this problems that aren't even put effort to be solved frick me out too. i want to do something but how? if you take any actions you most likely to end up in jail, as an Islamic rebel, or enemy of society. but i am sure there will be one day, guys, when our country will need us and we can put our effotrs to make chages!!!
best regards for you my friends!!
CrazyDT
03-16-2003, 04:06 AM
Honest: af62d3fa, Thanks, I'm with you.
Royal
03-17-2003, 03:48 PM
Everyone would have happiness , just around horizon.
I think no economist are in this forum to know simplicity of this /that mess.
Honest
03-20-2003, 03:26 AM
there is one main solution for this problem; "Freedom of Trade" and "Reduction of Income taxes for SMEs". isn't it very simple? Yes for us!! but no for our authorities who want to get as much money as possible out of it!! This brings another problem"Corruption" which is very beneficial for our prisident too.
cheers.
House Member
03-20-2003, 06:28 AM
Vopros navernoye v drugom: Kak jit?
Nedavno my obsuzhdali vopros kak vizhivat. Ochen horoshiye byli mysli po planirovaniyu byudzheta
i minimizacii rashodov. Nekotoryiye dazhe shutili, nastolko interesniy byl topic. No en ne otvechal na glavniy vopors:
KAK ZHIT'? Zamette--ne kak vyzhivat, a kak zhit?
To yest yesli chelovek sumel perebitsya so dnya na den, eto ne ploho. No i ne horosho. Vopros v tom, shto kazhdiy chelovek hochet dobitsya yeshyo chego-to. I chtoby dobitsya svoyey kakoy-to postavlennoy cely on zhivyot. Dopustim, ne vse soglasny s takoy racionalisticheskoy tochki zreniya i kogo-to ustraivayet suchestovovaniye radi sushestvovaniya. Odnako, dumayetsya, sredi posetiteley foruma mnogo celeustremlyonnyih, na podderzhku kotoryh ya nadeyus.
Itak, postanovka problemy. My zhivyom v lzhivom obshestve (ya ne znal, kak tochneye perevesti termin "suniy jamiyat"). Vokrug nas prinyato govorit odno, dumat drugoye. Inagda dazhe delat' sovsem tretye. Lyudi uvazhayut tolko silu (ne physicheskuyu, konechno, no i yeyo tozhe). I oblaladyut drugimi kachestvami kotoriye opisal nedavno Siege. Lyudi schitayut za normu podmazyvatsya k silnim, a potom pri udibnom sluchaye predat'.
Kak nado vesti sebya, shtoby: a) dobitsya uspeha, b) ostatsya chelovekom c) ostatsya v zhivih.
Brat' i davat' vzyatki, donosit' na neugodnyh, uprekat v nedostatke manaviyat i marifat, nachinat kazhdoye svoyo pismo "Posle obreteniya nezavisimosti". a zaknchivat " ..ga o`z minnatdorchiligimizni bildiramiz". Ili nado priderzhivatsya dvoynih standrtov: na sobranii govorit odno, i s druzyami v kurilke drugoye?
I yesli shef oskarblyayet, nado terpet ili vozrazit? A yesli ment oskarblyayet? Srazu prava kachat ili sterppet a potom nayti yego i tihonko nakazat?
I chyi interesy dolzhny byt previshe vsego: narod, gosudarstvo ili semya? Eto vopros tem, kto na gossluzhbe.
Naverno u vseh uzhe yest svoi mysli po-etomu povodu, prosto hotel podelitsya i uznat. Ved zhit zhe kak to nado.
Yesli komu-to zahochetsya kritikovat', to ya ne obizhus'. Just thoughts.
Royal
03-26-2003, 06:55 PM
there is one main solution for this problem; "Freedom of Trade" and "Reduction of Income taxes for SMEs". isn't it very simple? Yes for us!! but no for our authorities who want to get as much money as possible out of it!! This brings another problem"Corruption" which is very beneficial for our prisident too.
cheers.
Shortway to say : "Fish is spoil from the head" - Baliq boshidan sasigan
ok, to begin with uzbek government needs to let small and medium sized business grow, so we don't have to import the stuff from abroad but export and get the sucking US dollars.
the benefit
- we won't run out of us dollars, instead we'll be able to increase our supply of it
- the more we export succesfully, the stronger uzbek currency becomes
as we import even toilet papers, we have to pay in US dollars that leads us dollar stock of uzbekistan to go abroad. that's why nowadays uzbek government is afraid of running out of this stock. the consequences of running out of that stock is quite disastrous.
to be continued...
i understand you my friend CrazyDT, i know how you feel, cause i feel the same way. i don't want to think about myself, because i have friends and a lot of people who are precious to me back in uzb. they suffer, they struggle for every peace of bread everyday. and this problems that aren't even put effort to be solved frick me out too. i want to do something but how? if you take any actions you most likely to end up in jail, as an Islamic rebel, or enemy of society. but i am sure there will be one day, guys, when our country will need us and we can put our effotrs to make chages!!!
best regards for you my friends!!
i like what u r saying man i was exaclty thinking the same i mean 1 day will come and we can put together all and struggle the corruption and all the mess das goin on there good man all the best
Royal
03-29-2003, 08:03 AM
I don't want to live abroad like a rat that fled a sinking boat, but I have to for now at least, and this is sad. :( :arrow:
If the buildings foundation is wrong , crooked and has problem no matter what You built will not be right and eventually would collapse. (Italian Piaza not for example).
You noted right regarding the sinking boat, can I ask You question :
- When ship has hole and all the intentions are not to patch that hole but
start take out nails & screws and woods to build own personnal boats.
Forget the rats or other animals, what other people should do in this case ?
Doesnt matter who You or where are You this issue will make You think always. " TUZINI EGAN TUZLIGIGA TUPRMAYDI".
With regards,
Royal :(
"As we import even toilet papers, we have to pay in US dollars that leads us dollar stock of uzbekistan to go abroad. that's why nowadays uzbek government is afraid of running out of this stock. the consequences of running out of that stock is quite disastrous."
Of cource that is very important issue, but problem is how many time this import transaction of this kind ? What is the U$ dollar amount ? (including the "kickbacks").
Do other republics are conducting same type of transactions always, so if production lines installed in UZB , this products are also could be exported.
How mach is the cost smallest toilet paper/napkin production line including the waste paper /cellolose reproduction line ?
Buying the ready product doesnt involve much efforts and labor, but production lines are need labor , so our people can able to work not to think something else, like to get pay for distributing some kind papers and get prosecuted.
Regarding bribery or others , becouse people are hungry they are not hungry for they stomack they hungry for they EYE's. I think this my opinion: Regulate with strict regulation or/and law to indicate that any government employee or officials to have/own minimum amount of stock / shares on privat companies. I think this opinion is may become handy with present income tax regulations. This is just simpe opinion, not an advise.
Royal
03-29-2003, 09:02 AM
Sorry, I forget to put : Royal
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