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Alouddin
09-06-2003, 12:17 AM
Assalamu Alykum,

In these verses in Surat Al-Mutafifin [83: 32-34--32 And when they saw them, they said: "Verily! These have indeed gone astray!"
33 But they (disbelievers, sinners) had not been sent as watchers over them (the believers).
34 But this Day (the Day of Resurrection) those who believe will laugh at the disbelievers], we are shown the known concept of he who laughs last laughs best. The Kufar (todays imperialists) mock Islam, calling us Fundamentalists as if there is something wrong with our religion, or claim that it is we who have gone astray. They, have no right to be attacking us trying to try to fix our faults, while in the eyes of Allah they are the ones lagging behind. Although, on the day of judgement it will be us who will get the last laugh. A true reward for the righteous from Allah.

Wassalamu Alykum Warahmatu Allah

Royal
09-06-2003, 08:29 AM
"kiyimi" yoq "kiyimi" yirtiq deb kulibdi deyish shundan bolsa kerak

xotin
09-15-2003, 01:40 AM
There are fundamentalists in Christianity too and the "imperialists" are against them as well. There are many Muslims living in peace in imperialist nations. Is it true that most Muslims do not support the "taliban" and their interpretation of the Koran? What about the Wahabis who are losing support with the "imperialists"? And Saddam Hussein should not have been a dictator according to the Koran, for only God's will dictates the people. The Muslims should have overthrown Hussein long before the "imperialists" had the chance. Why was Saddam Hussein allowed to rule over Muslim people for so long? He certainly fought against Allah and all the teachings of Mohammed!!

I am sorry but after 30 years of americans being terrorized by those people who call themselves Muslims, Americans are finally fighting back. I do not call those people Muslims just like the IRA and the mafia are not true Christians.

If you REALLY want to fight "imperialist" (capitalist is a better word) then dont buy MacDonald's, or Brittney Spears, or watch American movies, or buy Mickey Mouse toys. Irrational philosophies only send you back to the medieval times.

Globalism and corporatism are the true enemies. "Imperialist" is archaic from the 19th century and Imperialism collasped after World War II. Get your facts straight buddy!! Imperialism is already dead! Now we must fight against MacDonald's and the GAP!!! :-) Our swords are our pocketbooks!!! Goodness, I need a life! I need to take off my GAP clothes and put on my Old Navy pajamas and go to sleep and cuddle in my LAura Ashley sheets.

Sunnah
09-15-2003, 09:34 AM
"Like all Americans, on Tuesday, 9-11, I was shocked and horrified to watch the WTC Twin Towers attacked by hijacked planes and collapse, resulting in the deaths of perhaps up to 10,000 innocent people.

I had not been that shocked and horrified since January 16, 1991, when then President Bush attacked Baghdad, and the rest of Iraq and began killing 200,000 people during that "war" (slaughter). This includes the infamous "highway of death" in the last days of the slaughter when U.S. pilots literally shot in the back retreating Iraqi civilians and soldiers. I continue to be horrified by the sanctions on Iraq, which have resulted in the death of over 1,000,000 Iraqis, including over 500,000 children, about whom former Secretary of State Madeline Allbright has stated that their deaths "are worth the cost".
Over the course of my life I have been shocked and horrified by a variety of U.S. governmental actions, such as the U.S. sponsored coup against democracy in Guatemala in 1954 which resulted in the deaths of over 120,000 Guatemalan peasants by U.S. installed dictatorships over the course of four decades.
Last Tuesday's events reminded me of the horror I felt when the U.S. overthrew the governments of the Dominican Republic in 1965 and helped to murder 3,000 people. And it reminded me of the shock I felt in 1973, when the U.S. sponsored a coup in Chile against the democratic government of Salvador Allende and helped to murder another 30,000 people, including U.S. citizens.
Last Tuesday's events reminded me of the shock and horror I felt in 1965 when the U.S. sponsored a coup in Indonesia that resulted in the murder of over 800,000 people, and the subsequent slaughter in 1975 of over 250,000 innocent people in East Timor by the Indonesian regime with the direct complicity of President Ford and Secretary of State Henry Kissenger.
I was reminded of the shock and horror I felt during the U.S. sponsored terrorist contra war (the World Court declared the U.S. government a war criminal in 1984 for the mining of the harbors) against Nicaragua in the 1980s which resulted in the deaths of over 30,000 innocent people (or as the U.S. government used to call them before the term "collateral damage" was invented--"soft targets").
I was reminded of being horrified by the U. S. war against the people of El Salvador in the 1980s, which resulted in the brutal deaths of over 80,000 people, or "soft targets".
I was reminded of the shock and horror I felt during the U.S. sponsored terror war against the peoples of southern Africa (especially Angola) that began in the 1970's and continues to this day and has resulted in the deaths and mutilations of over 1,000,000. I was reminded of the shock and horror I felt as the U.S. invaded Panama over the Christmas season of 1989 and killed over 8,000 in an attempt to capture George H. Bush's CIA partner, now turned enemy, Manual Noriega.

I was reminded of the horror I felt when I learned about how the Shah of Iran was installed in a U.S. sponsored brutal coup that resulted in the deaths of over 70,000 Iranians from 1952-1979. And the continuing shock as I learned that the Ayatollah Khomani, who overthrew the Shah in 1979, and who was the U.S. public enemy for decade of the 1980s, was also on the CIA payroll, while he was in exile in Paris in the 1970s.

I was reminded of the shock and horror that I felt as I learned about how the U.S. has "manufactured consent" since 1948 for its support of Israel, to the exclusion of virtually any rights for the Palestinians in their native lands resulting in ever worsening day-to-day conditions for the people of Palestine. I was shocked as I learned about the hundreds of towns and villages that were literally wiped off the face of the earth in the early days of Israeli colonization. I was horrified in 1982 as the villagers of Sabra and Shatila were massacred by Israeli allies with direct Israeli complicity and direction. The untold thousands who died on that day match the scene of horror that we saw last Tuesday. But those scenes were not repeated over and over again on the national media to inflame the American public.

The events and images of last Tuesday have been appropriately compared to the horrific events and images of Lebanon in the 1980s with resulted in the deaths of tens of thousand of people, with no reference to the fact that the country that inflicted the terror on Lebanon was Israel, with U.S. backing. I still continue to be shocked at how mainstream commentators refer to "Israeli settlers" in the "occupied territories" with no sense of irony as they report on who are the aggressors in the region.

Of course, the largest and most shocking war crime of the second half of the 20th century was the U.S. assault on Indochina from 1954-1975, especially Vietnam, where over 4,000,000 people were bombed, napalmed, crushed, shot and individually "hands on" murdered in the "Phoenix Program" (this is where Oliver North got his start). Many U.S. Vietnam veterans were also victimized by this war and had the best of intentions, but the policy makers themselves knew the criminality of their actions and policies as revealed in their own words in "The Pentagon Papers," released by Daniel Ellsberg of the RAND Corporation.

In 1974 Ellsberg noted that our Presidents from Truman to Nixon continually lied to the U.S. public about the purpose and conduct of the war. He has stated that, "It is a tribute to the American people that our leaders perceived that they had to lie to us, it is not a tribute to us that we were so easily misled."

I was continually shocked and horrified as the U.S. attacked and bombed with impunity the nation of Libya in the 1980s, including killing the infant daughter of Khadafi. I was shocked as the U.S. bombed and invaded Grenada in 1983. I was horrified by U.S. military and CIA actions in Somalia, Haiti, Afghanistan, Sudan, Brazil, Argentina, and Yugoslavia. The deaths in these actions ran into the hundreds of thousands.

The above list is by no means complete or comprehensive. It is merely a list that is easily accessible and not unknown, especially to the economic and intellectual elites. It has just been conveniently eliminated from the public discourse and public consciousness. And for the most part, the analysis that the U.S. actions have resulted in the deaths of primarily civilians (over 90%) is not unknown to these elites and policy makers. A conservative number for those who have been killed by U.S. terror and military action since World War II is 8,000,000 people. Repeat--8,000,000 people. This does not include the wounded, the imprisoned, the displaced, the refugees, etc. Martin Luther King, Jr. stated in 1967, during the Vietnam War, "My government is the world's leading purveyor of violence." Shocking and horrifying.

Nothing that I have written is meant to disparage or disrespect those who were victims and those who suffered death or the loss of a loved one during this week's events. It is not meant to "justify" any action by those who bombed the Twin Towers or the Pentagon. It is meant to put it in a context..."
Larry Mosqueda, Ph.D.
The Evergreen State College
September 15, 2001

Note: by this post I do not mean that I support the 11 september attacks. That attack is un islamic and any other terrorist attacks also unislamic.