Some interesting statistics

[MegaZ]

Check out the statistics for forum.uz (top.arbuz.com):

- 93% of forum users browse with Internet Explorer.
- 36% use Windows XP, 27% use Windows 2000.
- 70% have a screen resolution of 1024x768.
- The highest number of hits is from US, UK and Turkey.
- Google and Yahoo are the most used search engines.
- Most used keywords are "Sevara Nazarkhan" and "Choyhona".

Detailed statistics can be found from the following URL: http://top.arbuz.com/exec/stats?cmd=traffic&year=2003&month=06&id=1020

[badbashara]

well, just 36% on Xp?
Interesting about Sevara....

[trigger-happy]

- 93% of forum users browse with Internet Explorer.
- 36% use Windows XP, 27% use Windows 2000.

That figures. Evil, evil Microsoft! Oh, how I dream of the day when a decent operating system will cost around $50, instead of an average Uzbek's yearly salary! :twisted:
:D We can still dream, right?

[Sher]

Check out the statistics for forum.uz (top.arbuz.com):
- Google and Yahoo are the most used search engines.
- Most used keywords are "Sevara Nazarkhan" and "Choyhona".


Hi MegaZ!

One question, если можно :)
How the search engine popularity and forum.uz statistics are related to each other7

you have IPs and some other stats, related to OS, Screen res. etc.
But how about the search engines? Do they put cookies, so that you read it or what? Sorry if it sounds too lame to ask such a question :oops:

[etchgow]

:P :P :P :D :D :D

[etchgow]

- 93% of forum users browse with Internet Explorer.
- 36% use Windows XP, 27% use Windows 2000.


Unfortunately I couldn't have access from home yet, I have to use public computer

- 70% have a screen resolution of 1024x768.


If I can log in from home I will increase this avarage



- The highest number of hits is from US, UK and Turkey.


Qayerda koprok "bilgisayar" barsa oyerdan daa koprok "hit" bolur :)


- Google and Yahoo are the most used search engines.



typing "google.com" or "yahoo.com" is quite easier than "altavista.digital.com" (less characters)


- Most used keywords are "Sevara Nazarkhan" and "Choyhona



Choyingiz qo'p yaxsi!! Bir bardak daha alabilir miyim?! :D

[MegaZ]

Sher,
Hi MegaZ!

One question, если можно
How the search engine popularity and forum.uz statistics are related to each other7

you have IPs and some other stats, related to OS, Screen res. etc.
But how about the search engines? Do they put cookies, so that you read it or what? Sorry if it sounds too lame to ask such a question
No, it doesn't sound lame or anything.

I should have explained this a little clearer earlier. By "Search Engines", I mean not the search engines that people use when they are already on forum.uz. When someone goes to www.google.com or www.yahoo.com, they type in a search phrase. If the search results return a link to www.forum.uz, they click on that link and appear on the forum. This information is recorded in "referer" field by the web server. That's how it finds out where the users are coming from.

So, if you had some information on your site about let's say "Sherali Juraev" and let google index your site, whoever types in "Sherali Juraev" in a search might end up being on your site. In this case, the search engine is Google and the keywords are "Sherali Juraev".

The same thing applies to Ratings/Catalogs stats in top.arbuz.com.

I don't know if the above makes any sense. If you have any other questions, please let me know.

- 93% of forum users browse with Internet Explorer.
- 36% use Windows XP, 27% use Windows 2000.

That figures. Evil, evil Microsoft! Oh, how I dream of the day when a decent operating system will cost around $50, instead of an average Uzbek's yearly salary! :twisted:
:D We can still dream, right?
happy trigger gde ti propala?
chot tebya ne vidno

[MegaZ]

Sher, by the way,

How is the IT stuff moving at your work? Any news? I know you guys are working on a new government portal, which is quiet exciting.

By the way, how come UzInfoCom took over the domains? Are you sure they're trustworthy?

I checked out the site http://www.ictcouncil.gov.uz
Seems like it's written in pure html & some php+mysql. I have some ideas for the site, if you are open to them.
Here are some of them:
1) Hosting should be moved off the ChinaNET (it's too slow) or another faster mirror should be opened up.
2) Writing pages in html or SSI will only add additional problems in the future, when you will eventually move to dynamic page generation. I recommend writing the site at least on something like php & mysql. If you expect a high load, consider using Java technology and Oracle as a database backend.
3) Instead of using the customized forum that you have, consider using something like phpBB (http://www.phpbb.com) or InvisionBoard (http://www.invisionboard.com).
4) Remove the guestbook - an official site should never have a guestbook. It only makes the site look bad. Plus, it will be your nightmare maintaining it in the future.
5) Consider hiring a good designer to design the site.
6) The html code contains around 300 errors.
7) Uzbek and Russian versions of the site are completely different (both in design and structure).

I don't want to criticize anything, I'm just trying to help you guys out a little. I know you are doing hell of a job and I wouldn't want to be another site reviewer.

If you need my help in anything, let me know. I don't know if I'll have free time for coding, but me and I'm sure some other guys in forum would gladly help out as much as we can.

[Delta]

- 93% of forum users browse with Internet Explorer.
- 36% use Windows XP, 27% use Windows 2000.

That figures. Evil, evil Microsoft! Oh, how I dream of the day when a decent operating system will cost around $50, instead of an average Uzbek's yearly salary! :twisted:
:D We can still dream, right?

no need to dream, you can get real now.

you can download any Linux distribution (OS) for free from their website..
ex: redhat.com or suse, debian...
it does everything that microsoft windows does, even better...does not crush and has high security set up.

includes...ex:

* open office/star office...has word/power point...
* photo editors/media player/games..Quake/smaller games.
* realplayer/chat tools - GAIM - supports msn/yahoo/aim ....
* browsers /mozilla/netscape/opera....
* dial up/ethernet set up tools.
* ....

if you want to purchase a CD with an Operting System...you practically pay for shipping only maybe $1 for CD.


-Cheers

v uzbekistane za 1 dolllar lyuboye vremya mojete kupit nelagal any windows operating systems :D

[trigger-happy]

- 93% of forum users browse with Internet Explorer.
- 36% use Windows XP, 27% use Windows 2000.

That figures. Evil, evil Microsoft! Oh, how I dream of the day when a decent operating system will cost around $50, instead of an average Uzbek's yearly salary! :twisted:
:D We can still dream, right?

no need to dream, you can get real now.

you can download any Linux distribution (OS) for free from their website..
ex: redhat.com or suse, debian...
it does everything that microsoft windows does, even better...does not crush and has high security set up.

includes...ex:

* open office/star office...has word/power point...
* photo editors/media player/games..Quake/smaller games.
* realplayer/chat tools - GAIM - supports msn/yahoo/aim ....
* browsers /mozilla/netscape/opera....
* dial up/ethernet set up tools.
* ....

if you want to purchase a CD with an Operting System...you practically pay for shipping only maybe $1 for CD.


-Cheers
Thanks, Delta. I know about Linux and heard great things about it. However, Microsoft has manages to stong-arm all the major hardware and software companies to the point where Linux has to struggle to make it.

[trigger-happy]

- 93% of forum users browse with Internet Explorer.
- 36% use Windows XP, 27% use Windows 2000.

That figures. Evil, evil Microsoft! Oh, how I dream of the day when a decent operating system will cost around $50, instead of an average Uzbek's yearly salary! :twisted:
:D We can still dream, right?
happy trigger gde ti propala?
chot tebya ne vidno
Do I know you? :oops:

yep. but as a unknown guest :)
where were u anyway last days?

[Sher]

MegaZ,

thanks bro :) Now it is clear with that :)

About the .uz It is not an accident that UzInfoCom got the right to administer it. It was a very long process of redelegation. UzInfoCom is not the private company. It is organized by the Decree of the President, so there is no question about the trustworthiness from the Governmental perspective :) .

About the ICTCouncil: I know that the current site is really bad. So we're now trying the new version with dynamic content and some other features. I might give you a sneak preview :)
Check www.ICTCouncil.gov.uz/test

Comments are welcome! It should also have databases of ICT Jobs and ICT Companies and some other features related to enhanced interactivity.

It was on the process of being finished, so I didn't care much about the improvement of the current version.

And as you know, bureaucratic work has its peculiarities. It is usually very hard to find finance and it is always very difficult to make a good web project only with an administrative authority :)

I'm very greateful for all your advise. ICTCouncil's site should be a very useful meeting place, which should provide an exchange of ideas and improve interaction between public and private sectors in the ICT sphere. At least, this is my personal goal.

Sincerely,
Sher

[MegaZ]

Sher, thanks for the reply.

The test site does look a LOT better :-) Good job!
But the front page took forever to load :( Maybe you guys should still think about a mirror or a better hosting...

The design looks professional - I like it. But you still have a guestbook! :-) I highly suggest to remove it :-)

The site developer seems to be doing a pretty good job. I also like the way he/she integrated phpBB into the site. It doesn't work yet, but I guess it's on the way ;-)

I'll let you know if I have any other suggestions.

[MegaZ]

Sher,
If your developer doesn't mind, I would love to look at the way he designed the database. Simple table structure in text format would be good enough.

I might have some more suggestions afterwards :-)

[CrazyDT]

MegaZ, Do you have any stats on how much CPU is utilized?Something like this open source utility http://www.orcaware.com/orca/example_sites.html shows.
nice examples from this site: http://www.orcaware.com/orca/orca-example/

I was curious how much CPU power is needed for the project like this one. You don't have to make this stat public.

[MegaZ]

CrazyDT, CPU usage for a project like top.arbuz.com? Or for the whole server?

[CrazyDT]

MegaZ, I had www.forum.uz in my mind. Are all your projects run under one server?

[MegaZ]

CrazyDT, well, it's impossible to find out the CPU utilization for forum.uz alone, since I have all of arbuz.com on the server.

I do have the stats, but they wouldn't make much sense anyway. But I can send you an image, if you want it. Overall - the server is close to overloaded :-)

[CrazyDT]

MegaZ, wow ok.

[MegaZ]

CrazyDT, check my reply here: http://www.forum.uz/viewtopic.php?t=13415&highlight=

[noodles]

New version is better than the older :) But, when I tried to search for e.g.: the word "guestbook" there appeared a link like: href=http://www.ictcouncil.gov.uz/contacts.html>"Контакты". It's an error rather than a result I suppose.

Have a luck ;)

[MegaZ]

Max, seems like the database is almost empty right now :-)

[trigger-happy]

yep. but as a unknown guest :)
where were u anyway last days?
OK then. :D
Where was I? Same old place, but I just didn't have the time to go to forum.uz. Now that I have I see I missed quite a bit. :D

[Sher]

MegaZ,

Thanks for your comments. I'll ask the developer about the database structure. There is a little problem: he is absent now (hozir uni voenkasi bor ekan :) ) So after his return I'll send you the structure.

We're also thinking about the changing of hosting or some other mirror site. However, theresn't any decision yet.

Max, the search shows some part (+/-100 words from the search string) of the message, not all the message. So it found the "guestbook" in Help section of the site. And of course it requires further development, because it didn't display the section's name, and it didn't display in proper format and showed the HTML code.

[Sher]

MegaZ, btw, the forum is not phpBB. It only looks like that (because I showed forum.uz as an example :) ), but as developer said it is our own creation.

[MegaZ]

Sher, I see :-)

[noodles]

Sher, I got that :)