Savol

[Royal]

Assalomu alaykom.

NIma uchun juhudlarga shanba-shabbat kuni hech narsa qilish mumkin emas, yani :

1. Chiroqni yoqisholmaydi, lekin begona dindagi yoqib berishi mumkin,
2. Ovqat pishira olishmaydi, bir kun oldin pishirib qoyishadi,
3. Mashinadan foydalanish mumkin emas,
4. Pul ushlashlari ham taqiqlangan,
5. Telefondan foydalana olishmaydi,

yana nacha mucha shunga ohshagan narsalar, bit hillar etadi bu kuni faqat kolesoga yani sinagogga borib ibodat qilishlari kerak ekan gunohlari uchun, qanday qunohlari uchun shunaqa jazo berilgan ?

Hurmat ila

Royal

[Gothica]

Royal, ochen staralas ponyat... no vot chto ya dumayu...
v shabbat nelzya nichego delat tak kak v etot den sotvoreniye mira zakonchilos i tvorec reshil otdohnut, shabbat nachinaetsa s vechera ot pyatnici i zakanchivaetsa s pervoy zvezdoy v subotu, tak kak "bila noch i bil den drugoy" ya sama malo znayu, popravte menya esli chto... eshe v v etot den horosho poest vkusnenkogo i vina popit... eto prineset udachu v techenii sledushey nedeli ... eto prosto svyashenniy den, edinstvenniy den otdiha... no ya dumayu eto nikak ne kasaetsa s otpusheniem grehov...

kstati o grehah... vy znaete chto virajeniye "kozel otpusheniya" poshlo ot evreev?!
tak vot kajdiy god evreyi derevni/sela/goroda berut kozla(nakladivayut na nego vse grehi naroda) i otpuskayut s visokoy gori, esli kozel upadet to grehov bilo mnogo soversheno za god... esli je normalno skatitsa to grehov bilo malo... v lyubom sluchaye grehi naroda otpuskayutsa...

[Alouddin]

Royal & malizia, bilganimcha:

Yaratguvchi Mehribon Olloh Taolo biz yashab turgan dunyoni, bashariyatni va boshqa qancha kere bo'sa ashuncha narsani yaratib qo'ygan bo'lsada, hech qachon, hech qachon, hech qachon, hech qachon, hech qachon, hech qachon charchamagan! charchamaydi ham! Milisa qiz, balki yahudlarda dunyo "sotvorenya"si ohiri (yanglish holda) shanba kunga to'g'ri kelar, lekin men JUMUAH kunda bitirilgan deb o'rgatiladi.

Al-Muroqib

[lazy master]

v shabbat nelzya nichego delat tak kak v etot den sotvoreniye mira zakonchilos i tvorec reshil otdohnut,


dear malizia,
think about the words that you have said above (i hope you just have that kinda info which you don't believe)
The Creator, he doesn't look like us, creations, and none of his creations look like him. He is not like us; we feel hunger, thirst, tire. He doesn't do the things like us, human beings; he doesn't sit and build houses,cars, ships, etc (in His case nature, planets, galaxy, etc). He just says "BE" and the things become from nothingness, nonexistance.
if someone accepts that the Creator gets tired it means according to him the Creator is not perfect, His power is not absolute; if He gets tired it means He should have rest and gain power, how? that's very easy: He will eat something! huh? once He ate He should digest :shock: astag'firullah
anyways, you think yourself, you decide what to believe, how to believe


kstati o grehah... vy znaete chto virajeniye "kozel otpusheniya" poshlo ot evreev?!
tak vot kajdiy god evreyi derevni/sela/goroda berut kozla(nakladivayut na nego vse grehi naroda) i otpuskayut s visokoy gori, esli kozel upadet to grehov bilo mnogo soversheno za god... esli je normalno skatitsa to grehov bilo malo... v lyubom sluchaye grehi naroda otpuskayutsa...

huh? where is the J u s t i c e??? why should goat die for others guilt :rolleyes:
mankind is so unjust, they even kill the animals for their own mistakes, sins....
bechora :(

[Gothica]

dear malizia,
think about the words that you have said above (i hope you just have that kinda info which you don't believe)
The Creator, he doesn't look like us, creations, and none of his creations look like him. He is not like us; we feel hunger, thirst, tire. He doesn't do the things like us, human beings; he doesn't sit and build houses,cars, ships, etc (in His case nature, planets, galaxy, etc). He just says "BE" and the things become from nothingness, nonexistance.
if someone accepts that the Creator gets tired it means according to him the Creator is not perfect, His power is not absolute; if He gets tired it means He should have rest and gain power, how? that's very easy: He will eat something! huh? once He ate He should digest astag'firullah
anyways, you think yourself, you decide what to believe, how to believe

chtoj ya takogo skazla chto tebya pobudilo k takim mislyam?!
ya podtverjdayu chto skazala ibo uverena chto eto imenno tak...


huh? where is the J u s t i c e??? why should goat die for others guilt
mankind is so unjust, they even kill the animals for their own mistakes, sins....
bechora

oni eto delali i do tvoego rojdeniya i do poyavleniya slova justice...
i k tomu je ty odin iz mankind...

[Royal]

Lyudiiii, Lyudiii.

Ne nado nad moim voprosam drug druga rezat a to vas toje otpushi s gori gruzom.

Vopros bil yasen potomu chto slushali quraan i tam ob etom est slova no ne do kontsa (tawba qildim agar notogri bolsa) i mi sprosili odnoy kotoraya perepodayot kak uchit quraan v machete i ona skazala: etot den Subbota -Shabbat dano kak za nakazaniya lyuidiyam evreyskomu religii. Eto otnositsya k otnosheniya lyudey evreyskogo religii k bojskim zapretam, kotoriy vsegda eti zapreti hoteli oboyti ili vsegda hoteli chto-to delat vrode takoy protivo bojskogo zapreta. Vspomnite proisshetvie vo vremya Moisseyya (Muso a.s) kogda evreyyi ne hoteli slushatsya slovam Moisseyya (Muso a.s) i prevrashayutsya na kamni.

S Uvajeniem

Royal

P.S. Malizia , po uzbekskomu ne ponimaesh poetomu ya napisal po russkomu kak smog , proshu izvineniya za oshibki.

[wyxpat]

dear malizia,
think about the words that you have said above (i hope you just have that kinda info which you don't believe)
The Creator, he doesn't look like us, creations, and none of his creations look like him. He is not like us; we feel hunger, thirst, tire. He doesn't do the things like us, human beings; he doesn't sit and build houses,cars, ships, etc (in His case nature, planets, galaxy, etc). He just says "BE" and the things become from nothingness, nonexistance.
if someone accepts that the Creator gets tired it means according to him the Creator is not perfect, His power is not absolute; if He gets tired it means He should have rest and gain power, how? that's very easy: He will eat something! huh? once He ate He should digest astag'firullah
anyways, you think yourself, you decide what to believe, how to believe

chtoj ya takogo skazla chto tebya pobudilo k takim mislyam?!
ya podtverjdayu chto skazala ibo uverena chto eto imenno tak...

malizia wrote:
v shabbat nelzya nichego delat tak kak v etot den sotvoreniye mira zakonchilos i tvorec reshil otdohnut...



huh? where is the J u s t i c e??? why should goat die for others guilt
mankind is so unjust, they even kill the animals for their own mistakes, sins....
bechora

oni eto delali i do tvoego rojdeniya i do poyavleniya slova justice...
i k tomu je ty odin iz mankind...

lol a very big L O L

[Royal]

Royal, ochen staralas ponyat... no vot chto ya dumayu...
v shabbat nelzya nichego delat tak kak v etot den sotvoreniye mira zakonchilos i tvorec reshil otdohnut-1, shabbat nachinaetsa s vechera ot pyatnici i zakanchivaetsa s pervoy zvezdoy v subotu, tak kak "bila noch i bil den drugoy" ya sama malo znayu, popravte menya esli chto... eshe v v-2 etot den horosho poest vkusnenkogo i vina popit... eto prineset udachu v techenii sledushey nedeli ... eto prosto svyashenniy den, edinstvenniy den otdiha-3... no ya dumayu eto nikak ne kasaetsa s otpusheniem grehov...

kstati o grehah... vy znaete chto virajeniye "kozel otpusheniya" poshlo ot evreev?!
tak vot kajdiy god evreyi derevni/sela/goroda-4 berut kozla(nakladivayut na nego vse grehi naroda) i otpuskayut s visokoy gori, esli kozel upadet to grehov bilo mnogo-5 soversheno za god... esli je normalno skatitsa to grehov bilo malo... v lyubom sluchaye grehi naroda otpuskayutsa...


Malitza,
Ya spetsialno postavil nomera k tvoim slovam , esli ne protiv.
Chto raskazala, horoshaya Vesh ochen blizko k klipu ot show Sullivana pokazannogo v Kosbiy show: Tam sprashivaet u malchishki chto ti znaesh o Boje, malchik dumaya otvechaet: -"Znaete-li tam oni ukrali yabloku i za eto bili "grounded" i potom ih privezli v aeroport i otpravili v zemlyu".
Sprashivayut u malchika kak Bog sozdal cheloveka, Otvet: Bog sozdal cheloveka iz zemli, Vopros: a jenshinu ?, Otvet: Iz kosti kuritsi. Sullivan: Ochen pahoje istine."

Tak je v tvoyom-je raskaze est takay misl, evreyi v osnovnom hodyat v sinagogu v subbotu i molyatsy za svoi grehi, dela i mogut prosta molitsya bog, nu BOG reshaet kak chto.

Vopros bilo chto nekotorih izdaniyah i perevode korana (svehshyonnogo knigi musulman prostite prishlos zdes upominut ob etom)bilo zamecheno neskolko slov ob nakazniye naroda v evreyskom religii v etot den.

Za namechenniy slova:
1. Otvetili uje.
2. Kogda pishesh ne-nado zaikatsya,
3. Prostite pojalyusta den otdiha togda ne bilo, eto sozdano nedavno.
4. A otkuda berut stolki kozlov, a sami ne mogut taskat s gori vniz ?
5. Poetomu oni nachali pokupat i stavit tanki i vezdehodi na gorah da ?
(esli eto vsyo hvatitli im ?)

S Uvajeniem

Royal

[Gothica]

nu ne znayu ya chto v Korane napisano i o chem vy govorite... zdes nahodyas v israele ya imenno takoye i slishala :) :P
i chto eto vy tak vse?! rasslabtes hihi...
master, jelayu vsego horoshego ...

[Gothica]

8)

[Gothica]

Observer, priznala ya sovoyu oshibku nu i chtoje?! ... vse ravno v shabbat nujno otdohnut... tak on reshil...

[DOOOST]

malizia,

hoy qizaloq mazur tutingu lekin bir savolim bor

YAHUD EMASMISIZ?

UNDA NIMAGA ULARNI BAYROG'INI KO'KRAGINGIZGA OSIB OLIB FAXR BILAN QO'LINGIZNI IYAGINGIZGA QO'YIB QARAB TURIBSIZ?

UZR :!:

[Gothica]

DOOOST: 0828cf90, kogda smotrish v profile chitay slovo "location" 8)

[wyxpat]

master, jelayu vsego horoshego ...

senkyuu....

DOOOST: 0828cf90, kogda smotrish v profile chitay slovo "location"

ghmdaa, mne toje nado bilo smotret na flajok ;) lol

[malizia-away]

master, luchshe pozno chem nikogda ;)

[mujreem]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm de uj
:)

[Royal]

8)

A chto zdes ochki viravnivala chto li 2 raza ?

[Royal]

Uvajaemoy affiristi etogo topika,

Biza judayam asosiy savoldan chetga chiqib ketdik
Mi ushli v druguyu storonu ot osnovnogo voprosa ,

u yoq, bu yoq deb gapni aylantirmasdan javobini koriylik
ne nado ot i do, nenado krutit ... nado nayti otvet k voprosu

bu erda yoki ozilani shahsiy masalalarini kormoqchisilami
Eto topik po moemu ne dlya chastnih razgovorov

[Alouddin]

Royal,
Uvajaemoy affiristi etogo topika,
:lool:

[Gothica]

Royal, vse vse... yasno :P molchu... ;)

[Alouddin]

malizia, neeeeeeeeeeet. teper uje ne molchi. raz skazala chto-to, to teper nado budet privodit, kak dokazatelstvo, stroki ili stihi s Tory ili otkuda tam esho ty brala...

a my kak raz za etim i budem nabludat 8)

vot tak =]

Al-Muroqib

[Gothica]

Observer, tebya kstati toje kasaetsa... eslib ne ty ya bi molchala....

Royal, premnogo izvinyayus... uhoju ;)

[Alouddin]

malizia,
Observer, tebya kstati toje kasaetsa... eslib ne ty ya bi molchala....
:?: :? ty o chom????

[Royal]

Hurmatli dostlar
Uvajaemiy druzya,

Men bir savol togrisida soradim, balkim bu men notogri eshitgandirman (qarichilik endi)
Ya sprosil odin vopros, mojet bit oshibka u menya (primite za starost) sluhom,
Men bu savolni Quronni eshitayotganimizda paydo bolgan savolni soradim, chunki SHANBA kuni bu jazo deb berilgan deyilgani uchun
Ya sprosil ob odnom voprose , kotoriy u menya poyavilsya vo vremya slushaniy Qorana , chto subbota DANO KAK NAKAZANIYA i vsyo.

Qanday, Nima uchun, Nimaga ? Etilmagan
Kak, zachem, pochemu ? ne skazano .

Oldingi postimda hatolar uchun uzr, togrilab qoydim.
Prededushim postu bilo neskolko oshibok, izvinyayus, ispravil.

Yoq, malizia endi Szini qizil gilamga taklif qilamiza huddi juhudlarni vakili hisobida.
Net uj malizia , seychas Vas priglashayem na krasniy kovyor. Kak predstavitelya evreyev.