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gay_ruler
09-04-2003, 12:37 AM
who can answer me why god is creating homosexsuals all time and strongly forbided gayness in all realigons?
where is the logic?

Alouddin
09-04-2003, 01:24 AM
God creates not the 'looti's (from Loot a.s.), but the shaytan shows how much pleasent this sin is... at least this is my point of view. I know that the people of Lot (as) perished due to this particular reason. They were told by God thru Lot to stop the acts of mono-sex relations.

And Allah knows best.

If there is anyone who knows better, I'll only welcome them to share their knowledge and proofs.

wassalam,

Observer

gay ruler
09-04-2003, 01:49 AM
observer
many people(homosexsuals) aware of about their gayness from the childhood without any influence of any reasons just like heterosexsuals.As far as i know Loot's a.s. tribe that you mentioned were biosexsuals rather than homosexsulas.ok i am agree probably some males and females immitate it and become biosexsuals and maybe can give up their habbits any moment they want.
but i am here talking about born homosexsulas who are not experienced any reasons but was created in this way.

Desperado
09-04-2003, 06:18 AM
gay ruler: a637df55, because your **** anus is created with the reason that you could defocate and cleared of poison inside you. It is not for others to shove their genetials into your back.
I hope you understand this simple explanation.
No offence intended.

Akhee-Abdullah
09-04-2003, 09:19 AM
Islam's Position on Homosexuality


Homosexuality and lesbianism have been dubbed “alternative life-styles”, “personal preference”, “a natural variation”, etc. in the West today. Where homosexuality was considered an illness by the Association of Psychiatrists, it is now removed from the list and replaced by homophobia (the dislike of homosexuals and homosexuality). Consequently, Islam and Muslims are considered intolerant and biased due to their continued opposition. Arguments in favor of tolerance to homosexuals are based on the assumption that homosexual behavior is biologically based and not merely learned from society.

Early opposition to homosexuality was based on the argument that such behavior was unnatural. Sodomy cannot produce children which is one of the main natural consequences of sexual relations. “Mother Nature” did not make us that way, it was argued. To counter such arguments homosexual researchers scoured the earth until they found supposed homosexual behavior among the animal kingdom. They found that the males of some species of exotic fishes off the coast of Japan imitated the behavior of females of the species in order to prevent other males from impregnating their mates, and some rare butterflies from islands of the coast of Africa also had males exhibiting female behavior during mating season, etc. However, if the animal kingdom is to be used to justify human behavior, there also exists a spider in South America, whose female is much larger than the male. When mating is complete, the female eats her mate.

During the 80’s it was claimed that a gland in the base of the brain which is small in women and large in men was found to be small among homosexuals. However, this evidence, while seeming incontrovertible to the layman, was immediately refuted by scientists. The data was taken from cross-sections of the brains of dead adult humans whose sexual preference was identified prior to death. Consequently, the reduced size among homosexuals could have been a result of the practice and not its cause. That is, they could have been born with normal sized glands which then became small due to their deviant lifestyle.

Recently genetics has become the most commonly used foundation for the pro-gay argument. In 1993 Dr. Dean Hamer, a researcher at the National Cancer Institute, claimed to have discovered “the first concrete evidence that ‘gay genes’ really do exist.” Homosexual orientation was supposedly transmitted to males on the X chromosome from the mother. Hamer’s findings, published in the prestigious journal Science, transformed his colorless career as a government scientist into a dynamic media personality and penned his memoirs. He gave expert testimony to the Colorado Supreme Court that formed the basis of the victorious decision striking down anti-gay Proposition 2. However, a replication of his study at the University of Western Ontario failed to find any linkage whatsoever between the X chromosome and sexual orientation. It was also found that Hamer’s study lacked a control group; a fundamental principle of scientific research. Furthermore, in June 1994, the Chicago Tribune reported that a junior researcher in Hamer’s laboratory who assisted in the gene mapping in the homosexuality study, alleged that he selectively reported his data. She was then summarily dismissed from her post-doctoral fellowship in Hamer’s lab. But a National Institutes of Health investigation substantiated her claims and gave her another position in a different lab. Though Dr. Hamer was coy about his own sexuality in his memoirs, he later admitted in his lectures that he was gay.

Akhee-Abdullah
09-04-2003, 09:21 AM
It should be noted that Islam, in its final form, did not introduce anti-gay legislature to the world. The texts of the Torah are replete with clear condemnation of such practices.

The consequence of AIDS is enough to prove that homosexuality is evil and dangerous to society. The early spread of AIDS was concentrated among the homosexual community. It later spread to the heterosexual community through blood transfusions and intravenous drug usage and so-called bisexuals. And continues on a rampage among promiscuous heterosexuals.

Islam considers homosexuality to be the result of a choice. It is inconceivable that God made people homosexuals then declared it a crime and prescribed punishments for it in both this life and the next. To accept such a proposition is to accept that God is unjust. Inclinations can exist within humans for a variety of natural and unnatural acts, from fornication to rape and from necrophilia to bestiality. These inclinations may come from jinn-suggestions, media influence, or even from human whisperings or direct contact. Human beings are not like robots who only do what they are programmed to do. Humans choose and God holds them responsible for their choices. Were homosexuality a product of genetic destiny, it would be unfair for God to criminalize it and punish those who practice it. Currently, some scientists are even claiming that murder is of genetic origin. To accept that would mean to excuse murderers and tolerate murder.

Islam instructs parents to separate their children in their beds by the age of ten in order to avoid sexual experiences which may result from childhood experimentation. Such experiences may be reinforced by contacts in schools and through abuse from adults. Also the distinctions between male and female are strongly made in Islamic teachings. The Prophet cursed men who imitated women and women who imitated men. The Western fashion industry is controlled by homosexuals who attempt to blur the distinction between males and females in order to make their behavior more acceptable. Consequently, men’s fashion has become more feminine in style and color and women are now wearing three-piece suits, ties and hats and traditionally men’s shoes. These distinctions may be relative and vary from society to society. For example, in Scotland men traditionally wear little knee-length dresses called “kilts”. In Scotland it would not be considered imitation of females, but in a society where only women wear such dress it would be considered imitation.

gay ruler
09-05-2003, 11:52 AM
Desperado homosexuality is not just anal sex or kind of sexual desire but it is sexual orientation and behavior.it is such kind of feeling.

Lucky
it is not a choice at least in my case.i never considered myself as a male however i am carrying male body but my soul always was a womanic.it is not my fault if my soul was penetrated to wrong body.i was grown up in Uzbekistan where people had no idea about homosexuality nor homosexsuals (in my childhood).first time i heard about it when i was 16.(yes,yes,at 16 !!!) until that i thought only i was in whole planet with such kind of unnatural soul.so nobody can blame me immitating it from others here.As i said i never even heard and had no idea about such kind of sexual references until 16.so those two post that you had posted are biase.(at least forme) and i do not believe that god is going to punish me someday.

Saif Al-Pakistani
09-26-2003, 01:37 PM
Allah doesn't punish anyone for his or her feelings (which they have no control over) but rather for their wrong actions.

Life is a test. Sex is not everything it is only a small part of life.

If you give up having sex with other men for the sake of Allah, Allah will reward you in the afterlife with a happy eternal life in Paradise but if you don't control your self in this world then you will be punished in the fires of Hell...

If you give up something out of obedience to Allah He will give you something better in return.

May Allah make you, me and this whole Ummah true followers of Islam and may He save us from the fires of hell and grant us salvation. May the peace and blessings of Allah be upon our Prophet Muhammad, his family and his companions.

09-26-2003, 04:47 PM
Allah doesn't punish anyone for his or her feelings (which they have no control over) but rather for their wrong actions.

Life is a test. Sex is not everything it is only a small part of life.

If you give up having sex with other men for the sake of Allah, Allah will reward you in the afterlife with a happy eternal life in Paradise but if you don't control your self in this world then you will be punished in the fires of Hell...

If you give up something out of obedience to Allah He will give you something better in return.

May Allah make you, me and this whole Ummah true followers of Islam and may He save us from the fires of hell and grant us salvation. May the peace and blessings of Allah be upon our Prophet Muhammad, his family and his companions.

ammo yuqoriagi gaplaarni tolik oqib chiqdinghizmi?
yana osha eski gaplar ku..

Unknown
09-26-2003, 06:12 PM
I don't hold any prejudice against anyone (at least i want to beleive in it) I'm not a racist, i'm not a gay/lesbian hater or anything like that. But I can't understand how one can claim "why God forbid me to be a homosexual" Doesn't it sound awkward? God has created humans as they were supposed to be.He created a man and then created for him a woman,for them to be together and comfort each other.Isn't that what is said in every holy book?
I can't understand why you gay-ruler allowed yourself to fall in this false believe that God creates gays.And where here do u see logic? God does not create gays.People convince themselves that they are different and beleive it and live with this sin.
There is no logic in your question.God does not create gays or lesbians(and I will write it as many times as I can,because it's the only truth).And don't you contradict yourself by writing "strongly forbided gayness in all realigons? " Does any of known to you religions teaches that homosexualism is right and it is the way that God wants us to live?
Educate yourself and then ask these stupid questions like "why God forbidded me to be a homosexual".Read the only right book in this sick world,look for answers in Quran- this is the only source of information ,of why Allah did this or that.(da prostit mne Allah moe upominanie ego imeni v takom topike)

P.S. I'm really getting sick of this immorality going on.Women can't find themselves men to marry and start a family,grow children together,because these men are all finding attractive their own sex.What are they showing on TV?Madonna kissing britney,and the last one emmie awards or smth men kissing on stage on the national tv? What is it? Sploshnoy razvrat...Toshnit uje ot etogo vsego.
U.S. strana vozmojnostey,svobody i sploshnogo razvrata.Delay chto hochesh,spi s kem hochesh,menya svoy pol,rojay detey ot kajdogo bf.It is so hard not to judge people.I'm not a saint myself.But I can't watch it calmly(someone would say don't watch it then,and I am not watching,but i'm leaving among these people).
Anyway this is getting too long for "post scriptum",so this is my opinion on this topic.

Unknown
09-26-2003, 06:27 PM
One last question to gay-ruler. If God creates gays why then he made it impossible for them to have children?

I think I'm fed up with this gay issue.

gay bola
09-26-2003, 06:57 PM
One last question to gay-ruler. If God creates gays why then he made it impossible for them to have children?

who said you that it is so important to have a child?
heteresexuals are enough to keep the popultion.

G
09-26-2003, 07:42 PM
E sanlarga qizlarni bir eri kamlik qilyaptimi nima qilasan har hil teshiklarni izlab
Uylanib mazza qilib hotiningni quchog'lab yot

Unknown
09-26-2003, 07:56 PM
One last question to gay-ruler. If God creates gays why then he made it impossible for them to have children?

who said you that it is so important to have a child?
heteresexuals are enough to keep the popultion.

why don't you ask yourself when you are gonna be 70 years old living in "old community" and nobody will come to visit you,care for you and call you father or grandfather???

grow up,wise up and stop asking those stupid questions.

09-26-2003, 08:20 PM
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E sanlarga qizlarni bir eri kamlik qilyaptimi nima qilasan har hil teshiklarni izlab
Uylanib mazza qilib hotiningni quchog'lab yot

siz erkak bilan birga bolish maasiga tshunmayniz bolmas bu gaplarni gaparmagan bolardingiz sizga achinam shudo zor hisni bilmasda otib ketasiz bu dunyodan.



why don't you ask yourself when you are gonna be 70 years old living in "old community" and nobody will come to visit you,care for you and call you father or grandfather???

but most abondened parents are heterosexuals not homos..

09-26-2003, 08:35 PM
Guest: b46c9a75,

E koynilarim aynib ketdi sani postingini o'qiganimda.

Unknown
09-27-2003, 05:51 AM
Guest: b46c9a75,
don't bring this statistics. The point I was trying to show is that: homosexuals can't have kids.

And I will agree with you most heterosexuals get abandoned by their own children,because they have children!
and homos can't be abandoned because by nature they can't have them, therefore they can't be abandoned.
But following the path gays chose,lonely life awaites them.This was my point.

yana bitta gay
09-27-2003, 07:37 PM
unknown va boshqalar erkak kishini tanasini ham oziga hos mazsi bor faqat ayyollarda emas yoqsa qizlar va ayollar erkaklarga qaramagan bolar edi.Shuning uchun gaylarni ham hislarini hurmat qilinglar koyininlar ozmasin agar koyningiz ozsa unda qizlarga ham shu gaplarni garpiring ahir ular erkak tanasin sevishadiku.yoki notogrimi?

Royal
09-28-2003, 03:48 AM
Observer,

Sizdan bir katta iltimos shu topikni oborib Fleymga otkazib qoyin, oshatda sorasin kimdan bosayam soariydiganini....

Alouddin
09-28-2003, 06:38 AM
patsany,

vrode topic nachinalsa s interesa tochki zreniya religii na homosexualism, a vy ego kuda-to ne tuda poveli...

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