Is Uzbek language same as Turkish?????

I was in my car the other day listening to Ozoda Nursaidova and I was giving a ride to this guy who is from Turkey. He said he understands every word of it :shock: Iz Uzbek language same as Turkish :?:

maybe she sang in turkish

It is not the same but similar.

[etchgow]

Is American English the same as Australian English?

This is the answer to your question.

By the way the only Uzbek singer singing in Turkish is Shahsenem and she has been living in TR for years.

[Royal]

Long time ago Uzbek people was teaching Turkish people to talk in Uzbek, but Turkish people was very bad students and they never talk straight in Uzbek and Turkish people learn Uzbek language only part of it and rest of it they just add-on them selfes and from that they create they own "turkish" language. May God Bless them. About that they understand all the wording , but they can not talk straight. :D

[alparslan]

uzbek turkish and anatolian turkish are two dialects of grand turk language.


uzbek turkish of today is a descendant of chaghatay turkish, qarluq turkish, qipchaq turkish, oghuz turkish branches.

anatolian turkish of today is a descendant of oghuz turkish branch.


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balkan turkish dialects, anatolian turkish dialects, azerbaijani turkish dialects, khorasan turkish dialects, turkmen turkish dialects are very close to each other.

uzbek turkish dialects and uyghur turkish dialects are very close to each other.

qazaq turkish dialects, qirgiz turkish dialects, qaraqalpaq turkish, tatar turkish dialects, bashkir turkish dialects, qarachay turkish, qumik turkish, noghay turkish are very close to each other.

Is American English the same as Australian English?

This is the answer to your question.

By the way the only Uzbek singer singing in Turkish is Shahsenem and she has been living in TR for years.
strange but i do not understand turkish songs and turkish language.
but i understand american and england english.

Is Uzbek language same as Turkish?????
no
but it something like ukrainian and russian
they resemble to each other but you can ot understand ukrainina without any tasks.
so is turkish.generally turkish language is not understood among majority of uzbeks(99%) only boys who studied in turkish high school or people who laerned turkish understand it.

Is Uzbek language same as Turkish?????
no
but it something like ukrainian and russian
they resemble to each other but you can ot understand ukrainina without any tasks.
so is turkish.generally turkish language is not understood among majority of uzbeks(99%) only boys who studied in turkish high school or people who laerned turkish understand it.!!! It isn't true. Uzbek Language don't like Ukrainian or Russian. Don't you know Uzbek Language ? It's Grammer and words like Anatolian Turkish. You must read it again:

uzbek turkish and anatolian turkish are two dialects of grand turk language.


uzbek turkish of today is a descendant of chaghatay turkish, qarluq turkish, qipchaq turkish, oghuz turkish branches.

anatolian turkish of today is a descendant of oghuz turkish branch.


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balkan turkish dialects, anatolian turkish dialects, azerbaijani turkish dialects, khorasan turkish dialects, turkmen turkish dialects are very close to each other.

uzbek turkish dialects and uyghur turkish dialects are very close to each other.

qazaq turkish dialects, qirgiz turkish dialects, qaraqalpaq turkish, tatar turkish dialects, bashkir turkish dialects, qarachay turkish, qumik turkish, noghay turkish are very close to each other

[Junaid]

salom,
men turkiyadanim va uzbekcha yozishmoq, uzbekcha o'rganmak istayman. agar istayan borsa, menga yozib turing! june8@gmx.net
inglizcha va nemischa gapira olayman.
Cuneyt

salom,
men turkiyadanim va uzbekcha yozishmoq, uzbekcha o'rganmak istayman. agar istayan borsa, menga yozib turing! june8@gmx.net
inglizcha va nemischa gapira olayman.
Cuneyt
www.uzland.com da Uzbek tilini organish uchun yahshi manba'lar bor.

!!! It isn't true. Uzbek Language don't like Ukrainian or Russian. Don't you know Uzbek Language ?
who said you uzbek language is like ukrainian?
it is clearly said uzbek and turkish languages are like russian and ukrainian..
now you understand?

[Dunyokezganqalandar]

Royal, a tak to'g'ri aytdingiz
manda ham shunarsa yuz bergandi turkcha o'rgganganimdan keyin , o'zbekchdan o'zim qo'shib turkcha lug'atni boyitaman.asosiysi turklar tushunadi

[badbashara]

I would say that Uzbek language is pretty much close to Nigerian, for example word "Ahmok (stupid)" would be "Ahmaka" see how close we are! I think we all brothers and sisters, but it is very sad that no Uzbeks who can speak Nigerian :)

[Dunyokezganqalandar]

badbashara, hammamiz Odam Ato va Momo Havodan tarqalganmiz!

[Junaid]

Guest(d360a0b7): Rahmat!!! uzland.com'i ko'rdim, faqat uyerda fe’llarning zamoni yoq... ya'ni;
i come>gelirim>>>?
(you come>gelirsin>>>?, he/she/it comes>o gelir>>>?)
i'm coming>geliyorum>>>? kelayman?
(you're coming>>>geliyorsun>>>?)
i came>geldim>>>keldim?
i was coming>geliyordum>>>?
i had come>gelmishdim>>?
i will come>gelajag'im>>>keladim?
ayricha;
i can/may come>gelabilirim>>>?
i could/might come>gelabilirdim>>>?
i must come>gelmaliyim>>>?
i must have come>gelmaliydim>>>? ....

[MUHLIS]

come>gelirim>>><<kelaman (do not confuse with "gelamam" in Turkish)
(you come>gelirsin>>><<<kelasan, kelarsan
he/she/it comes>o gelir>>><< u keladi, "gelirmi?=keladimi?"
i'm coming>geliyorum>>><<< kelyapman, kelmokdaman
(you're coming>>>geliyorsun>>>kelyapsan, kelmokdasan
i came>geldim>>><<keldim (correct)
i was coming>geliyordum>>><<<kelayotgandim, kelayotgan edim
i had come>gelmishdim>><<kelgandim, kelgan edim, kelmishdim (the last one is very rarely used, but undersandable)
i will come>gelajag'im>>><<kelaman

ayricha;

i can/may come>gelabilirim>>><<< "i can come"=kela olaman ("olaman" is equivalent of "bilirim"), "i may come"=kelishim mumkin
i could/might come>gelabilirdim>>><<< kela olardim, kelolardim
i must come>gelmaliyim>>><<<kelishim kerak, kelishim shart
i must have come>gelmaliydim>>><<< kelishim kerak edi

[Junaid]

rahmat!
faqat: kelajak zamon(future tense) bilan genish zamon(simple present) arasida hich farq yoq mi? ayricha "i am going to come" qanday so'ylanir/denir?

[Bir_Turk]

come>gelirim>>><<kelaman (do not confuse with "gelamam" in Turkish)
(you come>gelirsin>>><<<kelasan, kelarsan
he/she/it comes>o gelir>>><< u keladi, "gelirmi?=keladimi?"
i'm coming>geliyorum>>><<< kelyapman, kelmokdaman
(you're coming>>>geliyorsun>>>kelyapsan, kelmokdasan
i came>geldim>>><<keldim (correct)
i was coming>geliyordum>>><<<kelayotgandim, kelayotgan edim
i had come>gelmishdim>><<kelgandim, kelgan edim, kelmishdim (the last one is very rarely used, but undersandable)
i will come>gelajag'im>>><<kelaman

ayricha;

i can/may come>gelabilirim>>><<< "i can come"=kela olaman ("olaman" is equivalent of "bilirim"), "i may come"=kelishim mumkin
i could/might come>gelabilirdim>>><<< kela olardim, kelolardim
i must come>gelmaliyim>>><<<kelishim kerak, kelishim shart
i must have come>gelmaliydim>>><<< kelishim kerak edi

Sevgili Muhlis Kardesim,

Yaptigin cok faydali bir is olmus bire biraz daha dilbilgisi ogretirsen sevinirim. Mesela del, dur, git gibi Fiillerin emir kipi, evin penceresi gibi isim tamlamasi yada sari ev eski okul gibi sifat tamlamasi vesaire vesaire. Birde ev- eve - evde - evden - evin gibi ismin hallerinide ogretirsen sevinirim. Simdiden tesekkur ederim.

Rahmet.

[Administrator]

Ozbek va turk tili birhil mi?
yoq bu yerda bazilarning tamoman bir hil deyapganlar notogridir.
Hich umrida ozbekchani eshitmaga turk ozbekchani birinchi eshitganida tshunmaydi.ha togri halq orasida yurib kop narsalarni organishi mumkin lekin jidiy bir ozbek tilida yozilgan matin qoliga tushib qolsa tshunmay qoladi.Va tshunish uchun oqimoq va organmoq zarur.
Ozbeklar uchun ham huddi shu aytaman.

yani australian english bilan england english ni turkcha va ozbekcha bilan qiyoslash bu ahmoqlikdur.
gapni ochigini aytdim qoydim.

[etchgow]

Long time ago Uzbek people was teaching Turkish people to talk in Uzbek, but Turkish people was very bad students and they never talk straight in Uzbek and Turkish people learn Uzbek language only part of it and rest of it they just add-on them selfes and from that they create they own "turkish" language. May God Bless them. About that they understand all the wording , but they can not talk straight. :D

No. No. It did not happen that way.

Long, long ago, in a galaxy far away, there were only Turks and Uzbeks as the civillised human beings. The rest of the human races did not appear. Turks were benevolent creatures spending their lives on herding and agriculture. However Uzbeks of that time were spiky-eared horny demons, balrogs wielding a whiplash and a sword in both hands, gushing blood and breathing fire from their maws. These evil Uzbeks massacred the peaceful Turks, scorched their homes and yurts, killed even their beautiful horses. The few Turks left alive were forced to slavery, bonded and sold for centuries. The evil Uzbeks forced the poor Turkish slaves to learn their filthy language, which sounded the barking of a gurgling dog. These blood-chilling days are still narrated through the Turkish legends, like the torture of the poor Turkish slave who rejected adopting an Uzbek name:

"Speak!! Your name is Toby!!!" (whiplash sound)
"Noooo!!!! My name is Kunta-Kinte!!!"
"Speak!! Your name is Toby!!!" (another whiplash sound)

Um.. er.. well... I probably have mistaken with another legend. This wasn't a scene from the "Poor Turks Slaughtered By The Evil Uzbeks" movie.

By the way. This period of slavery continued for a few millenia, and by time Turks resisted every torture and rejected learning the filthy Uzbek language, but the filthy Uzbeks began to talk in a way similar to the very nice language of Turks. Of course they did not continue their lives as slaves any longer. New races were emerging around the world, and the filthy Uzbeks began to employ Turkish renegades as their protectors. By the time Turkish slaves could flee the Uzbek yoke, their children learned to hide in the mountains and fight the Uzbek hordes. Therefore they grew up as great warriors. This gave them a new status, as the renegade forces of the Uzbek army. Of course the point of Uzbeks was to get rid of both these Turkish renegades and the upcoming new folks by letting them kill each other. However, among Turks, a hero named Gilgamesh led his Turkish fellas and the newcomer nations against the Uzbek yoke - a long story - and destroyed the Uzbek kingdom. The Uzbeks left alive had to hide underground, the place they ought to be.

Of course peace did not last long. New nations began to consider their rightful Turkish lords as dominators, and began to mutiny. BASTARDS! During that time, a Chinese wizard named Shang Tsung made truce with an Uzbek ruler named Shao Khan, and married his daughter. Their child, a hybrid of Uzbek and Chinese was a demi-giant with four arms, named Goro. With the help of Goro, Shang Tsung and Shao Khan have managed to win the tournament for the rule of the world. However, Liu Kang, a Chinese warrior rejected obeying Shang Tsung, and alongside with his Chinese comrade Mao Zedung - sorry, Kung Lao, and a Turkish blade artist nicknamed Sub-Zero, they battled Goro, also killed Kintaro and Motaro, killed Shang Tsung and banished Shao Khan from the surface of the world. Khan underground began to spend his time on researching genetics, and added human genes to the new Uzbek siblings. Therefore Uzbeks began to look similar to humans. Some managed to appear exactly like humans and were sent to the surface of the world as the representatives of the Uzbek nation. The rest of them still had pointy-ears and moved to planets Vulcan and Romulan, and some still could not change much and moved to planet Klingon. So, if you still want to know what the Uzbeks originally like, see a Klingon. Also you will have an idea about how the original Uzbek language was. The Klingon language is quite similar to that, and they even can read Shakespeare!

[Temur]

I was in my car the other day listening to Ozoda Nursaidova and I was giving a ride to this guy who is from Turkey. He said he understands every word of it :shock: Iz Uzbek language same as Turkish :?:


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[simplex]

Türkceyle özbekce cok benziyor ama özbekce sanki türkcenin kalin seslerle konusulani..Özbekce bi yaziyi ilk okudugunuzda hic bi anlam ifade etmiyor bi Türk'e,ama zamanla pratikle seslerin türkcedeki karsiliklarini ögrenince kolay anlasiliyor

[indirdim]

Arkadaşlar (Arkadashlar)

I am from Turkey and when i tried to read your language, i can understand something but not all. Turks and Uzbeks can understand eachother nearly, but not speak same language. We can say they are from same origin.

[MUHLIS]

Sevgili Muhlis Kardesim,
Yaptigin cok faydali bir is olmus bire biraz daha dilbilgisi ogretirsen sevinirim. Mesela del, dur, git gibi Fiillerin emir kipi, evin penceresi gibi isim tamlamasi yada sari ev eski okul gibi sifat tamlamasi vesaire vesaire. Birde ev- eve - evde - evden - evin gibi ismin hallerinide ogretirsen sevinirim. Simdiden tesekkur ederim.

Rahmet.
evin penceresi - uyning derazasi
sari ev - sariq uy
eski okul - eski maktab
In Turkish: Ev-eve-evden-evin
In O'zbek: Uy-uyga-uydan-uyning

[MUHLIS]

If you put average Turk and average O'zbek,
They cannot understand each other at all.
However, just 150-200 years ago not only Turks and O'zbeks but whole Turkic world could understand each other. I would even say that had one generic language which had the same (at least formal) standart. After invasion of Turkestan by Russians and Empowerment of the West in general Turkic nations started to orbit away from that Generic (classic) Turkic. Each of them started to develop in different directions. This process is still active and if we do not do something about it Classic Turkic will be a dead language like Latin.

[MUHLIS]

Pardon I forgot to mention:
There was two major standarts: Oguz and Karuluk. Oguz standarts were used in Ottoman empire and Karluk is used in Central Asia and in Tatar khanates. However, they were just two variations of the same language and people could understand each other without translation.

[MUHLIS]

etchgow, Onayni amerikada skameykada o'tirganini o'zim ko'rdim!

[Administrator]

Long time ago Uzbek people was teaching Turkish people to talk in Uzbek, but Turkish people was very bad students and they never talk straight in Uzbek and Turkish people learn Uzbek language only part of it and rest of it they just add-on them selfes and from that they create they own "turkish" language. May God Bless them. About that they understand all the wording , but they can not talk straight. :D

No. No. It did not happen that way.

Long, long ago, in a galaxy far away, there were only Turks and Uzbeks as the civillised human beings. The rest of the human races did not appear. Turks were benevolent creatures spending their lives on herding and agriculture. However Uzbeks of that time were spiky-eared horny demons, balrogs wielding a whiplash and a sword in both hands, gushing blood and breathing fire from their maws. These evil Uzbeks massacred the peaceful Turks, scorched their homes and yurts, killed even their beautiful horses. The few Turks left alive were forced to slavery, bonded and sold for centuries. The evil Uzbeks forced the poor Turkish slaves to learn their filthy language, which sounded the barking of a gurgling dog. These blood-chilling days are still narrated through the Turkish legends, like the torture of the poor Turkish slave who rejected adopting an Uzbek name:

"Speak!! Your name is Toby!!!" (whiplash sound)
"Noooo!!!! My name is Kunta-Kinte!!!"
"Speak!! Your name is Toby!!!" (another whiplash sound)

Um.. er.. well... I probably have mistaken with another legend. This wasn't a scene from the "Poor Turks Slaughtered By The Evil Uzbeks" movie.

By the way. This period of slavery continued for a few millenia, and by time Turks resisted every torture and rejected learning the filthy Uzbek language, but the filthy Uzbeks began to talk in a way similar to the very nice language of Turks. Of course they did not continue their lives as slaves any longer. New races were emerging around the world, and the filthy Uzbeks began to employ Turkish renegades as their protectors. By the time Turkish slaves could flee the Uzbek yoke, their children learned to hide in the mountains and fight the Uzbek hordes. Therefore they grew up as great warriors. This gave them a new status, as the renegade forces of the Uzbek army. Of course the point of Uzbeks was to get rid of both these Turkish renegades and the upcoming new folks by letting them kill each other. However, among Turks, a hero named Gilgamesh led his Turkish fellas and the newcomer nations against the Uzbek yoke - a long story - and destroyed the Uzbek kingdom. The Uzbeks left alive had to hide underground, the place they ought to be.

Of course peace did not last long. New nations began to consider their rightful Turkish lords as dominators, and began to mutiny. BASTARDS! During that time, a Chinese wizard named Shang Tsung made truce with an Uzbek ruler named Shao Khan, and married his daughter. Their child, a hybrid of Uzbek and Chinese was a demi-giant with four arms, named Goro. With the help of Goro, Shang Tsung and Shao Khan have managed to win the tournament for the rule of the world. However, Liu Kang, a Chinese warrior rejected obeying Shang Tsung, and alongside with his Chinese comrade Mao Zedung - sorry, Kung Lao, and a Turkish blade artist nicknamed Sub-Zero, they battled Goro, also killed Kintaro and Motaro, killed Shang Tsung and banished Shao Khan from the surface of the world. Khan underground began to spend his time on researching genetics, and added human genes to the new Uzbek siblings. Therefore Uzbeks began to look similar to humans. Some managed to appear exactly like humans and were sent to the surface of the world as the representatives of the Uzbek nation. The rest of them still had pointy-ears and moved to planets Vulcan and Romulan, and some still could not change much and moved to planet Klingon. So, if you still want to know what the Uzbeks originally like, see a Klingon. Also you will have an idea about how the original Uzbek language was. The Klingon language is quite similar to that, and they even can read Shakespeare!
etchgov
oli agar bitta narsaga tushungan bosam shu postdan..

[Mirzabek]

ulan kim bilmiyor ozbekche veya turkche zorlananlar ichin bir ip ucu
eski til dili yok daha dogrusu bir az cok edebiyat okuyun sonra daha iyi anlarsiniz
ozbekche tirk edebiyat dilline benziyor...yani 85% kadar benzer

[SmIlIk]

shu anda onlar ayni degil...birde cok az yonden bir birini benzer...Hicte katilmam benzer deyenlerin fikrine. Muhlis, dedigin gibi bazi kelimelerinde benzerlik vardir ama genelde oyle degildir.

Mirzabek, su yerde size...o'zbek edebiyatinda turk (yani su anki turk kelimeri az) ama turk edebiyatinda su anki kullanilan o'zbek kelimeleri vardir (hatta turklerin kendileri anlamazlar) Ama bu gene demek degilki onlar benzer :) Eskiden belki..ama simdi..yok !:)

[Mirzabek]

Julian siz ne zamandan beri Turkche konushuyorsunuz ? bu cok acayip soru oldu
ama ben turkiyedeyim ve kim nasil konushtugunu ve nasil konushacagini da biliyorum... ondan dolayi soyledigim gibi edebiyati okuyan adam kim nne oldugunu ve nasil konushtugunu anlar.
shu achidan soyluyorum ozbek edebiyatini da okudum ve hala okuyorum ve turk edebiyatini...
ben hepsi benzer demniyorum ama iyi de anlashilir...
ozbekler nasil turkleri anliyorsa turklerde anlar...

omadla

[Orhan]

sellam gardaslar(sillam ba gadaslar)(is kipcak and pecenek turk language)

Turkiye turkcesi ve ozbek turkcesi bir degildir cunku Bizler Asyadan turkiyeye geldigimizde (SELCUKLU TÜRKLERI(TÜRKMENISTAN)OGUZ HAN)
sizler gibi(OZBEK)konusurduk biz zamanla turkiyede turkceyi degistirdik
yani SELCUKLU TURKCESI OSMANLI TURKCESI OLDU sonrada MODERN TURKCE oldu .

Sizin Ozbek turkceniz ise cok fazla degismedi bu yuzden sizinki oz ve oz TURKCEDIR ama yinede hepimiz bir dili konusuyoruz ALTAIC DILI TURKCE

Dun gece okudum Turk dili 10000 sene yasinda bu cok uzun bir zaman
bu zaman icinde turk dili cok degisti yani turk dilinden MONGOL dili oldu
ve KOREA dili oldu

Biz TURK MILLETI(HEPSI (ALL TURKS)hepimiz bir yerde olmadigimiz icin
degisik memlektlerde oldugumuz icin dillerimiz degisti anladinizmi???

Dilimiz gegisti ama nerden geldigimizi ve kim oldugumuzu unutmadik

ASYADAN GELDIK TURKIYEYE VE TURK OGLU TURKUS ATTILA HANIN TORUNLARIYIZ


Ben bir Selcuklu ve Kipcak TURKUYUM yani babamin trafi anadoludan gelmis yunanistana(GREECE) Anamin tarafi ise bulgaristandan(bulgarien)
KIPCAK TURKU

Turkiyeye cok uzak degiliz 1 saatlik yol ama yinede bizim YUNANISTANDA(GREECE)TURK DILIMIZ DEGISIK
Ozbekistan ise yuzlerce binlercé kilomtre yol tabi ki dilerimiz degisik olur zamanla unutulur ve degisir

CHILD IN ENGLISH

Azeri TURKCESI :Bala
Turkiye TURKCESI:Cocuk
Trakya TURKCESI:kizan

okudunuz?
Turkiyeden 1 saat uzak ildugum halde biz BALAYA,COCUGA...
KIZAN diyoruz


Where we are going: in english

Wo gehen wir hin:in german

Wo gehma da hi: in german(region bayern)

okudunuz??almanya icinde bile almanlar degisik konusurlar

WO GEHEN WIR HIN

WO GEHMA DA HI

bizim TURKLERIN ISE DEGISIK KONUSMASI BENCE NORMALDIR CUNKU ARAMIZDSA DAGLAR YOLLAR VAR


Ben bir bati TRAKYA TÜRKÜ olarak(YARIM AZERI TURKU)Butun TURKLERI severim ve birgun ozbekistana, azaerbeycana,turkmenistana,kazakistan...
gelecegim ve oralari gorecegim ATALRIMIN geldigi topraklari gorecegim


hosca kalin orhan tuluhan

http://www.westtrakien.com/images/w2dlogo.jpg

[SmIlIk]

kusura bakamayin Mirzabek abi...yani turk lisesinde onca okuyupta turkceylen o'zbekchenin farkina varmamisim. Turkiyede yasiyorsaniz bu sizin her seyi bildiginiz demek degildir.

Oyleyse turk arkadaslarinizla gidipte tami tamina o'zbekche konusunda bakalim ahvalinize.

"Turkceyi kim ne zamandan konusuyor" sorunuza...cevap vermeyimde, mutevazilik olsun biraz.

[unseen]

LOL @ badbashara

[Mirzabek]

eyvallah Smilik... kabul ediyorum...beni yanlish anladiniz veya ben yanlish ifadeettim galiba en iyisi ben yanlish ifade ettim kabul ediyorum.
Ama bir nokta var deginmek istiyorum. Niye derseniz.
mesela siz Amerikada okuyorsunuz veya yashiyorsunuz, galiba oyledir ve ordaki hayati is benden daha da iyi bilirsiniz o sozsuz oyledir, ve bende buradaki hayati sizden daha da iyi bilirim, kabul etmeniz lazim... etmiyorsaniz ben tartishman...
bu sizin fikriniz ve her zaman saygiliyim...

arkadashlarim anlar ama hepsini degil, soyledigim gibi anlashilir...
omadla

[Temur]

Ben bir yorum getireyim size arkadaslar, Hem Mirzabek hem smilik, her ikinizde cok guzel Turkce konusuyorsunuz. Yazilarnizda hemen hemen hic hata yok. Sanki Istanbullu iki kisi yazisiyormus gibi. Lakin asil demek istedigim sudurki: Turk edebiyatini iyi bilen bir kisi Ozbekceyi biraz daha rahat anlar, yani Mirzabek'e katiliyorum. Cunku bizim suanki gunluk Turkcede kullanmadigimiz lakin eski Turkcede olan bir cok sozcuk hali hazirda Ozbekcede faal kullaniliyor.


diye dusunuyorum Saygilarimla...

[etchgow]

etchgow, Onayni amerikada skameykada o'tirganini o'zim ko'rdim!

Skameyka ne abi? Sinema mi?

[etchgow]

yav neyin tartismasini yapiyoz?

ben iki yildir Uygur, Ozbek, Kazak arkadaslarla hep yazisiyorum. Benim kapi komsularim Turkmenistan Turkmeni. Pek bir ders falan almadim ogrenmek icin, biraz zor oluyor anlasmak ama anlasiyoz iste. Azeri ve Kirim Tatarlari ile anlasmakta hic zorluk yok zaten. Cografi yakinlik belirleyici oluyor.

Ayni mi degil mi? Vallahi anlasmak icin ders almadigimiza gore bence ayni ya da cok benzer. Simdi senin tipin evdeki kardesine mi daha benzer yoksa dunyanin oteki ucundaki adaminkine mi? İlla ikiz kardesin gibi benzemen gerekmiyor kardesine ama seni goren bir de kardesini goren diyor ki aha siz kardessiniz.

Turkce ile Ingilizce ayni degil, cunku Turk Ingilizi, Ingiliz Turk'u anlamak icin ders almak zorunda. Turk Ozbeki anlamak icin ders almak zorunda degil. Sadece biraz zaman gecmesi gerek hepsi o.

[Reza]

badbashara, hammamiz Odam Ato va Momo Havodan tarqalganmiz!

Salam beh Hamehi<

Why have u got a map of afghanistan in your icons. Ahuramazda...?:)
btw i am afghan

[Mirzabek]

ee o'la bu odam keyerdan chikti..

Smilik inshallah beni onladiniz...
Kaan tesekkur ederim, etchgow dogru diyorsun... ama bir az daha ach konuyu chunki bazilari ben degilde bashkalri yanlish anlayabilir, anlarsinya insanlik hali...ona gore...


omadla

[Oguzhan54]

I was in my car the other day listening to Ozoda Nursaidova and I was giving a ride to this guy who is from Turkey. He said he understands every word of it :shock: Iz Uzbek language same as Turkish :?:
Bir Turk olarak burada neler deniyor, cogunu anlayabiliyorum. Tabi'ki, zaman icinde diller'de degisiklikler olmustur. Bir devletin icinde bile sive'ler vardir, devletler arasinda tabi'ki fark olur, bu normaldir.

[berke khan]

Xo'p..
Southwestern languages:
Oghuz group: Turkish, Azerbaijani, Turkmen, Gagauz, Crimean Turkish
Khorasan group: Iran
Northwestern languages: Kypchak group
Aralo-Caspian: Kazakh, Kyrgyz, Karakalpak, Nogai)
Ponto-Caspian: Karachay-Balkar, Kumyk, Karaim, Judeo-Crimean Tatar, Pecheneg (extinct), Kuman (extinct)
Uralian: Tatar, Bashkir, Chulym
Northern languages:
Siberian group Altai, Khakas, Shor, Tuvin, Yakut
Eastern languages:
Uighur-Chagatai group: Uzbek, Uighur
Bolgar languages: (sometimes considered to be a separate altaic language family)
Chuvash, Bolgar (extinct) , Khazar (extinct)

I think ability to understand each accent depends on person's capacity of using his own language effectively.

I can understand Turkic languages more or less.but can not speak.
But I see that Uzbek language Juda easy to understand.

[Pax]

maybe she sang in turkish
Maybe not.
Pehaps, he really understood the core of it, and guessed the rest.
If it's a romantic song, the lyrical stuff is very similar.

[Pax]

Türkceyle özbekce cok benziyor ama özbekce sanki türkcenin kalin seslerle konusulani..Özbekce bi yaziyi ilk okudugunuzda hic bi anlam ifade etmiyor bi Türk'e,ama zamanla pratikle seslerin türkcedeki karsiliklarini ögrenince kolay anlasiliyor
özbekce sanki türkcenin kalin seslerle konusulani.
Hm... bence bu konu tartışılabilir.

Bir kere, sadece yazılışına bakarak karar vermek çok yanlış olur.

Özbekçede "k" ve "g" ("q" ve "ğ" ile karıştırmayalım) hep yumuşak okunur. "Kar"daki gibi (profita).

Mesela "aka" kelimsi, beklediğinden daha yumuşak telaffuz edilir. "a"ların her ikisi "şapkalı" (yani "kahya"daki gibi).

Harf düzeyinde Türkçe o/ö, u/ü ve ı/i ayrımı yoktur, fakat etrafında bulunan sesszilerin niteliklerine bağlı olarak değişen sesler düzeyinde mevcuttur.
Mesela... Şimdi Özbekçe kelimleri Türkçe transliterasyonula yazıyorum.

Qo'l - kol (tabi "k" burada Doğu lehçelerinin "k"sı).
Ko'l - köl (görüyorunuzu, demi, aynı harf - farklı ses)

Qul - kul
Kul - kül

liste uzatılıbilir, ama artık gitsem daha iyi olur.

Selamlar...

[Guardian]

i have been living with 3 other turkish guys for 6 months and now i can clearly understand them. Originally, i am from Samarkand and my (local) language is tadjik. i use to study in tadjik for 9 years and uzbek 4 years.... i can communicate in uzbek completely free so i found turkish language very similar to uzbek. ther are some exceptions, but nearly 70 parsent is very similar...

[Qarama]

i would like to learn uzbek or turkmen or tadjik or kazakh, but i don't know somebody who can teach it to me.

There was a cute kazakh girl i wanted to know, but she was too unfriendly... so i let her.

[Administrator]

tadjik language is like persian but a little rough comparing with iranian language.

[etchgow]

i would like to learn uzbek or turkmen or tadjik or kazakh, but i don't know somebody who can teach it to me.

There was a cute kazakh girl i wanted to know, but she was too unfriendly... so i let her.

olm bilmiyon mu Turk kızları vermiyo :lol:

[black_cat]

ne? kim kime vermiyormush?

[Temur]

ozbekcha ve turkcha kardash tildir oxshah emas birak kop yaqin.

[Guardian]

ozbekcha ve turkcha kardash tildir oxshah emas birak kop yaqin.
Above quoted sentences in Uzbek.

O'zbekcha va Turkcha qardosh til[lar]dir. O'xshash emas, biroq ko'p yaqin.

Don't they sound almost the same? :)

[Aybike]

olm bilmiyon mu Turk kızları vermiyo :lol:

hooooop ne vermiyo kardeş..?
Anladığım şeyse iyiki vermiyor dangoz..verse dahamı iyi?

[cool-gafur]

uzbek language is not similar to any other language . it is a very rare language. distant asian 1

[asena]

so how come i understand %30 of it,even if i didn't learn even a minute in my life?

[cool-gafur]

so how come i understand %30 of it,even if i didn't learn even a minute in my life?well all languages have similar words that why . just like aero port in english its airport . so bug off with your turkish

[erk]

well all languages have similar words that why . just like aero port in english its airport . so bug off with your turkish

What are you saying? You cant attack on our language. Who are you? Dont you know that, both Turkish and Uzbek belong to the Ural-Altaic languages? Apologise from Turkey Turks!!!
Aero port comes directly from English cant you understand!!!

[Temur]

Erk hoqli yaxshi biledi! Turkcha Japoncha Korecha Mogolcha Ural Altay til familyasindan keledi. Ozbekcha farqli gurup emas ozbekcha ham Ural altayliqtir.Literaturge korsan ozbekcha kazaxcha Uygurcha Azericha yoxdu! Tek Turkcha ve Turkii tiller digen Vordir...

[erk]

Erk hoqli yaxshi biledi! Turkcha Japoncha Korecha Mogolcha Ural Altay til familyasindan keledi. Ozbekcha farqli gurup emas ozbekcha ham Ural altayliqtir.Literaturge korsan ozbekcha kazaxcha Uygurcha Azericha yoxdu! Tek Turkcha ve Turkii tiller digen Vordir...

Aynen katılıyorum ve senin dediklerinin hepsini anladım. Keşke ortak bir Türk dili olsa okullarda eğitilse. 3 aylık bir eğitim bile yeterli olur.

[Temur]

Abi cok degil ben de 3 ay kazakca baktim hepsini anlar oldum kisa zamanda. Hemde kazakca digerlerinden en uzak en muskul olani olmasina ragmen.Yani butun diller arasinda derin bir bag var bunu ogrenirken cok net goruyorsun.

[erk]

well all languages have similar words that why . just like aero port in english its airport . so bug off with your turkish

Endonezyalı ajanı gördünüz. dün 3 ceza puanı verdim. Forum istesin kellesi gitsin. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Şaka bir yana "bug off" nedemek eğer f*** off dediyse ki bence öyle cezasını verelim. Kendisini uyardım bizlerden özür dilemezse cezasını çeksin.

[Temur]

Abi bug off ne demek tam olarak bilemedim. Birde biz buraya insanlari cezalandirmak aninda fisini kesmek icin gelmedik.Adam elemek adam kaybetmek, düsman kazanmak icin degil tam aksine dost kazanmak icin geldik.

Ozbek milleti ile Turk milletini kaynastirmak Muhabbetini artirmak icin burada bulunuyoruz. Cezalandirmak kücüklükten gelir affetmek ise büyüklükten azizlikten gelir. Affeden daima üstündür.

[asena]

Nedense Endonezya'dan katilip Ozbek forumlarinda kufur eden 1-2 kisi daha olmustu.
Nedir bu Endonezya hikayesi?

[Bilge_Kagan]

Daha once endonezyadan kufur eden adam, benim bildigim kadariyla yine Ozbekti ( alakasiz alakasiz yerlerde " freedom for uzbekistan ! " gibi naralar atiyordu yanlis hatirlamiyorsam... ). Digerini bilemem...

Ama endonezyalilarin Ozbeklere bir kasti olabilecegini de zannetmiyorum..

[asena]

Hayir,irki ne olursa olsun Endonezya'dan kalkip nifak cikarmanin anlami nedir onu anlamadim.
Hani bizde Isvicre'ye falan siyasi sebeplerle ilticada bulunanlaar,ordan ahkam keserler,ayni durumu gordum.Ancak neden Endonezya onu anlamadim.

[dervish]

herhalde "buzz off" demek istedi

Endonezyalı ajanı gördünüz. dün 3 ceza puanı verdim. Forum istesin kellesi gitsin. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Şaka bir yana "bug off" nedemek eğer f*** off dediyse ki bence öyle cezasını verelim. Kendisini uyardım bizlerden özür dilemezse cezasını çeksin.

[Bilge_Kagan]

Hayir,irki ne olursa olsun Endonezya'dan kalkip nifak cikarmanin anlami nedir onu anlamadim.
Hani bizde Isvicre'ye falan siyasi sebeplerle ilticada bulunanlaar,ordan ahkam keserler,ayni durumu gordum.Ancak neden Endonezya onu anlamadim.

Ayni insan olduktan sonra sri lankaya da gitse ayni seyi yapardi bunda cok sasilacak birsey yok, sadece tesaaduf...

[Tangriberdi]

Ozbek va turk tili birhil mi?
yoq bu yerda bazilarning tamoman bir hil deyapganlar notogridir.
Hich umrida ozbekchani eshitmaga turk ozbekchani birinchi eshitganida tshunmaydi.ha togri halq orasida yurib kop narsalarni organishi mumkin lekin jidiy bir ozbek tilida yozilgan matin qoliga tushib qolsa tshunmay qoladi.Va tshunish uchun oqimoq va organmoq zarur.
Ozbeklar uchun ham huddi shu aytaman.

yani australian english bilan england english ni turkcha va ozbekcha bilan qiyoslash bu ahmoqlikdur.
gapni ochigini aytdim qoydim.
(Yorum: Demek ki anlayabiliyormuşuz. Benim Özbek yazısını çözmem bir gün aldı. Ama İlşk Özbekçeyi işittiğimde %50 oranında anlamıştım. Yani Özbekçeyi işiterek anlamak okuyarak anlamaktan kolay.
TERCÜME:
Özbek ve Türk dili aynı mı?
Yok, bu yerde bazılarının tamamen aynı demeleri doğru değildir.
Ömründe Özbekçeyi hiç işitmeyen Türk Özbekçeyi ilk işittiğinde anlamaz. Evet doğru, halk arasında yürüyüp çok şeyi öğrenmesi mümkün lakin ciddi bir Özbek dilinde yazılan metinle karşılaşsa anlamayacaktır. Ve anlamak için okumak ve öğrenmek zaruridir.
Özbeklere için de şunu söyleyeceğim. Australian English ile England English i Türkçe ve Özbekçe ile kıyaslamak ahmaklıktır. Sözün doğrusunu söyledim.

[kurshad]

(Yorum: Demek ki anlayabiliyormuşuz. Benim Özbek yazısını çözmem bir gün aldı. Ama İlşk Özbekçeyi işittiğimde %50 oranında anlamıştım. Yani Özbekçeyi işiterek anlamak okuyarak anlamaktan kolay.
TERCÜME:
Özbek ve Türk dili aynı mı?
Yok, bu yerde bazılarının tamamen aynı demeleri doğru değildir.
Ömründe Özbekçeyi hiç işitmeyen Türk Özbekçeyi ilk işittiğinde anlamaz. Evet doğru, halk arasında yürüyüp çok şeyi öğrenmesi mümkün lakin ciddi bir Özbek dilinde yazılan metinle karşılaşsa anlamayacaktır. Ve anlamak için okumak ve öğrenmek zaruridir.
Özbeklere için de şunu söyleyeceğim. Australian English ile England English i Türkçe ve Özbekçe ile kıyaslamak ahmaklıktır. Sözün doğrusunu söyledim.

Ozbekceyi nerede/nasil ogrendin tanriverdi?

[Bilge_Kagan]

Diger Turki dilleri ogrenmek icin once kril alfabesi bilmek gerekiyor. Devletlere gore Kril alfabesinin nasil degistigini gosteren kisa hos bir kaynak var elimde ( lise edebiyat ogretmenimden fotokopi cektirmistim ) isteyene gonderebilirim ( tabii tarayabilirsem )...

Sonra yine Tum lehcelerin yapi bakimindan ogrenilebilmesini saglayacak kisa bir kaynagim var ( o da fotokopi ), eger onu da tarayabilirsem herkes faydalansin diye foruma koyacagim zaten. Bundan bilgiyi aldigin zaman sana sadece kelime ezberlemek kaliyor ( yani guzel, iyi yerine "yahsi" demeyi bilmek lazim ;) ). TDK'nin boyle sozlukleri var, gidip bir bakmak lazim, ben henuz alamadim. Ama alirsan Tum lehceleri kusursuz konusabilirsin gibi geliyor bana...

[Tangriberdi]

Ozbekceyi nerede/nasil ogrendin tanriverdi?
YULDUZ USMANOVA SAGOLSUN

[Bilge_Kagan]

Sarkici degil miydi o ? ( buyuk bir yanlis yapiyor olabilirim, hataliysam duzeltin... )

[Tangriberdi]

Sarkici degil miydi o ? ( buyuk bir yanlis yapiyor olabilirim, hataliysam duzeltin... )
Ortalık Asyanın en büyük Yıldızı YULDUZ USMANOVA öyle bir insana şarkıcı denmemeli sanatçı daha yaraşan bir söz.

[Bilge_Kagan]

Cok tanimiyorum...Rahatsiz edici olduysa kusura bakmayin...

[Administrator]

'dunyada olumden baskasi yalan' sharkini orijinali ozbekche olup oda yulduz usmanovaya aittir.bildigim kadariyle bu sarkin turkce versiyonu yeni ciktiginde turkiye cok popular olmush ..

[Bilge_Kagan]

Evet onu biliyordum...Hatta o sarki yuzunden otobus firmalari bayagi dertlenmisti ;)