J1-viza problemasi

[USplaya]

Salom Azizlar,man silarni bir narsada fikrilarni bilmokchiman.Bu koprok
USAda yashayotgan hamyurtlarimizga tegishli desa ham boladi.
Demak,mani bitta tanishim ACCELS dan undergraduate student bolib
1 yil okish uchun USga kegan.1 yildan keyin yana kaytib borib Uzbekistonda okishini davom ettirish kerek.U bosa USda kolib ketmokchi.
Kim nima fikr bildiradi shu hakida? Oramizda shunaka ishni amalda kollab korganla bormi? U bolaga US yoki Uzbekiston tomonidan hech kanaka kidiruv e'lon kilinmidimi? Man bilamanki u USAga kelish uchun oz chontagidan bir som sarf kimagan unga osha programmasi pul tolagan
va vizasiga two-year-home residency majbur deb yozib koyilgan.
Oldindan kattakon rahmat fikrlar uchun.

USplaya,

Nimaga tanishim disan. Man desang kimdir sani urushadimi yo ustingdan kulamizmi?

Nimaga hamma bitta tanishim unisi bunisi deyishadi.

Ok po teme: AFAIK It is hardly possible to stay here if you exchange student. Maybe scholarship or a good letter from the prezident of your college that asks IREX allow you to continue your education in the USA.

Good luck anyway

[Dangal]

USplaya,
O'sha "tanishingizga" maslahatim. Biroz sabr kilsin. Ehheee, endi "undergraduate"dan kelibdiyu...kaytib borib okishini yahshilab okisin keyin "graduate"dan kelsin...zora u vaktlargacha akli kirib kolsa.

[Royal]

Salom Azizlar,man silarni bir narsada fikrilarni bilmokchiman.Bu koprok USAda yashayotgan hamyurtlarimizga tegishli desa ham boladi. Demak,mani bitta tanishim ACCELS dan undergraduate student bolib 1 yil okish uchun USga kegan.1 yildan keyin yana kaytib borib Uzbekistonda okishini davom ettirish kerek. U bosa USda kolib ketmokchi. Kim nima fikr bildiradi shu hakida?
Hozirgi ahvolda ancha qiyin , yana hudo biladi - ol qulim desa , hammasi yahshi boladi. buni uchun bir qancha qogozlarni toplashi kerak va creditlar ham juda yuqori bolgani holda , oqiyotgan sohasidan tashqari bolgan , lekin shu oz sihasi uchun zaril - kerakli bolgan yana bir sohada oqishga harkat qilishi va creditlari bilan ancha buncha unversitetlarga jonatish kerakki ulardan biror moddiy yordam olinishi mumkin bolsa, ozini davrida bolgan bir shunday voqea: ma'alum vaqtga oqishga kelgan student ketishidan oldin boshqa Universitetdan yordam olib yana oqishini 3yilga chozdirgan edi.
U bolaga US yoki Uzbekiston tomonidan hech kanaka kidiruv e'lon kilinmidimi?Bettdagilarni undan boshqa qiladigani ishi yoqmi?
Man bilamanki u USAga kelish uchun oz chontagidan bir som sarf kimagan unga osha programmasi pul tolagan va vizasiga two-year-home residency majbur deb yozib koyilgan.Oldindan kattakon rahmat fikrlar uchun.Tuzgan kontraktida nima deb yozilgan edi, unda: Agar men shu kontrakt asosida berilgan shartlarni bajarmasam jinoyiy javobgalikga tortilishga ham roziman" deganga ohshagan joyi bormidi ? Agar shunaqa bir gap bosayam, agar bomasayam unda harajatlarini tlaganlar shu pulni
qaytarishni sorashadi uyam bosa oqishni tugatgandan keyin, tolashi kerak, oqivotgan studentda pul nima qiladi, hali ishlashni boshlamagan bosa ?

[USplaya]

Demak yurursa boluradi agar kolga tushib kosa
deportation boladi bu degani 10 yilgacha USga kiromidi

[ББ]

после J-1, можно получить F-1, но перед тем как получить H1B (рабочая виза) нужно на 2 года вернуться. (были случаи, года некоторым удавалось в 1996 году, но сейчас шансов нет, так теперь ИНС ошибки не делает).

т.е. можно остаться в сша на учебной, но после окончания ВУЗа все равно нужно будет вернуться. есть 2 выхода:

1) как сказали вернуться, и самостоятельно подать на магистратуру. после Ф-1, рабочую визу получить можно.

2) сейчас подавать на продолжение учебы, самостоятельно закончить. потом найти работу вне сша - в европе (что будет трудно!), а потом попытаться вернуться в сша по рабочей визе.

Правила не нарушать. Если человек образованный, то он не захочет работать на бензиколонках за наличные. Терпение поможет.

ББ

[Alouddin]

USplaya, qaytgani ma'qul deb o'yleman. chunki men Lucy Jilka degan ECA dan kelgan opa bilan suxbatlashganimda "keyinchalik har xil problemar tug'lishi mumkin" degandi. a tak bizzi O'shdan odamlar kelib hech qanaqa 2 year home residency qilmasdan ketib qolishdi :D uch kishi hozircha.... no dla etogo nujni veskie prichini.... da i vashe, tam mojno jit ne boyas deportatsii da hot vsyu jizn. glavnoe bitta yarimta ish bo'lishi kere, i medical coverage =)

Former SoCal resident

p/s da ya by mnogo chego napisal, no visit tut mujik kakoy-to visit za spinoy i vsyo chitaet. i daje znaet, chto ya pishu eti stroki :D :lool:

[Royal]

Vsyo vozmojno sdelat tolko nado nemnojko podumat na svejiy golovu i rasstaviot vse tochki i po razmislit i peryod.....
Nado horoshenko prochitat zadavaemih voprosov i nado posmotret ne tolko vopros , nado podumat kak zadayushiy etih voprosov vot togda mojno poluchit otvetov toje i smisl.

Observer,

p/s da ya by mnogo chego napisal, no visit tut mujik kakoy-to visit za spinoy i vsyo chitaet. i daje znaet, chto ya pishu eti stroki

Nu ti hot jiv bratan. S mujikom problemi ne bili potom

[Studentka]

nado srazy k specialistu obrashatsya, v universitetah yest' ins officers, nikovo ne nado slushat'. toko tochka zreniya eksperta v takih delah nujna.

[royal#]

Studentka: 5fb7951a
Pered tem podoyti k INS expertam v uni, prejdevremenno nado prigotovitsy !
Nado sdelat ochen horoshenko svoyu domashnuyu rabotu, a to etot expert skajet: -"Tak, Vi hoteli tolko ostatsya na kakuyuto ne opredelyonnogo vremya ?"
i otvet budet odno znachno. Bez podgotovki nelzya udaryat golovu k bettonnomu stenu, mojesh golovu poteryat...

[Dunyokezganqalandar]

birinchidan shtatni bilish kerak, chunki har hil shtatda immigrantlarga tegishli qonunlar har hil?

[didiko]

Hamma bu yerga kelib qolib ketaversa, azizlar, vatan nima bo'ladi? Vatan...eh Vatan...oldin vatandigi problemani hal qilishsa hamma oshata otirgan bolardi hech kim uzbekistondan chetigayam chiqmasidi odamlar och otirganidan kora borib pul topib kelaman deb yuribdi san bosa vatan deysan hozirgi paytda kopla uzbekiston vatanim manim degan sozi esidan chiqarishvoti chunki iqtisodiy tarafdan tepadigilar halqdi juda ezib qoyishdi

[didiko]

Demak yurursa boluradi agar kolga tushib kosa
deportation boladi bu degani 10 yilgacha USga kiromidi manga qara chumchegida soqasi bosa biza oldimizaga kesin hamma prtoblemasini hal qilib beramiza 301 brightone beach ave, brooklyn, ny 11235 hollasa green card ham boladi ortoginda!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Martingale]

Shu joyga kelganda manda bitta savol tugildi.

Man bir necha uzbeklarni bilaman. J-1 dan keyin, F yoki H olib USda uqishlarini davom ettirishmoqda. Undan tashqari bir nechtasi Kanadaga kelishgan. Lekin yana boshqa uzbeklarni bilaman, qulida I-20 yoki university acceptance busa ham otkaz olishgan. Bu haqda fikrlariz qanday? Javobiz uchun oldindan rahmat.

[bonu]

Shu joyga kelganda manda bitta savol tugildi.

Man bir necha uzbeklarni bilaman. J-1 dan keyin, F yoki H olib USda uqishlarini davom ettirishmoqda. Undan tashqari bir nechtasi Kanadaga kelishgan. Lekin yana boshqa uzbeklarni bilaman, qulida I-20 yoki university acceptance busa ham otkaz olishgan. Bu haqda fikrlariz qanday? Javobiz uchun oldindan rahmat.
Avvalam bor, J-vizasini olish uchun DS- 2019 beriladi. I-20 F-1ga moljallangan.
J vizasi exchange programmalar qatnashchilariga beriladi, va ko'p hollarda programma ohirida vatanga qaytishga majbur etadi. Bu majburiyat J vizasidan boshqa hil vizaga otgan holda ham qatnashchi bo'ynida qoladi. Bundan tashqari, exchange programmalar ikki davlat orasida, aynan Uzbekiston va AQSh orasidagi muloqotga ijobiy ta'sir etadi.

I-20 hech qanday majburiyatlar yuklamaydi. Bazilar, man ularni ayblamiman,
I-20dan (F-1) foydalanib AQShga daromad topish uchun kelishadi, oqish uchun emas. Shuning uchun ham konsul I-20 egalariga har doim ham ishonch kozi bilan qaramaydi. Oziz hulosa chiqaring.

Tushuntira oldim degan umiddaman.

[Martingale]

Avvalam bor, J-vizasini olish uchun DS- 2019 beriladi. I-20 F-1ga moljallangan.
J vizasi exchange programmalar qatnashchilariga beriladi, va ko'p hollarda programma ohirida vatanga qaytishga majbur etadi. Bu majburiyat J vizasidan boshqa hil vizaga otgan holda ham qatnashchi bo'ynida qoladi. Bundan tashqari, exchange programmalar ikki davlat orasida, aynan Uzbekiston va AQSh orasidagi muloqotga ijobiy ta'sir etadi.

I-20 hech qanday majburiyatlar yuklamaydi. Bazilar, man ularni ayblamiman,
I-20dan (F-1) foydalanib AQShga daromad topish uchun kelishadi, oqish uchun emas. Shuning uchun ham konsul I-20 egalariga har doim ham ishonch kozi bilan qaramaydi. Oziz hulosa chiqaring.

Tushuntira oldim degan umiddaman.
Rahmat javobiz uchun.

Lekin masalani kup tomoni ochiq qolmoqda. Masalan, har doim ham beravermaydi degan gapizdan, bazida J-1 dan keyin F beriladi degan hulosa qisa buladi, tugrimi? Uzi bu narsa qonuniymi? Undan tashqari konsul ishonch kuzi bilan qarashi uchun nima yoki qanday yul tutish kerak deb uylaysiz? What about H visa?

hurmat bilan,

[htoshmatov]

Question: How Do I Get a Waiver of the Foreign Residence Requirement if I am an Exchange Visitor?
Answer: click here (http://uscis.gov/graphics/howdoi/exchvisit.htm#waiver)

This is brief description for J-1 Non-immigrant Visa:
(J) an alien having a residence in a foreign country which he has no intention of abandoning who is a bona fide student, scholar, trainee, teacher, professor, research assistant, specialist, or leader in a field of specialized knowledge or skill, or other person of similar description, who is coming temporarily to the United States as a participant in a program designated by the Director of the United States Information Agency, for the purpose of teaching, instructing or lecturing, studying, observing, conducting research, consulting, demonstrating special skills, or receiving training and who, if he is coming to the United States to participate in a program under which he will receive graduate medical education or training, also meets the requirements of section 212(j), and the alien spouse and minor children of any such alien if accompanying him or following to join him;

for more nonimmigrants visa click here (http://uscis.gov/graphics/services/visas.htm)

now, do me a favor grab your Uzbekistan Passport and open US visa section which you came to US and there is somewhere says: "Bearer is (or not) subject 212 E (212(j),) or something like that, if it says Bearer is not subject to that category that is very good for you, even your pink form says the same thing.
In that case go ahead enroll at 2 year or 4 year college and apply for changing status from J-1 to F-1 at BCIS
I also did like this, First J-1 served J-1 and applied for F-1 and got H-1 then Green card.

Another way would be easier for you is, J-1 to F-1 then marriage to USC--> green card.

If you are subject to Foreign Residence Requirement, I would suggest you to contact your program director or advisor in Uzbekistan or USA and request a waiver, make sure you show very good reason listed in immigration law.

Second option, you need to provide some kind of evidence that you are being prosecuted in your home country because of your race or religion.

Third; if you are married to USC or LPR and having hardship, let says if you leave US would cause severe consequences to your spouse or child

It all depends your luck too sometimes, for the fact, I even know some people who received their green cards in the mail.

Anyways, I still have an Immigration Attorney, if you want I can ask some questions about your case.
Or I will give legitimate source where you can get answers for your questions,
Here is address: Immigration Portal (http://www.ilw.com/)
They have chat sometimes and certified attorney answer questions, check their schedual for next chat session.

Good Luck my friend!



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Rahmat javobiz uchun.

Lekin masalani kup tomoni ochiq qolmoqda. Masalan, har doim ham beravermaydi degan gapizdan, bazida J-1 dan keyin F beriladi degan hulosa qisa buladi, tugrimi? Uzi bu narsa qonuniymi? Undan tashqari konsul ishonch kuzi bilan qarashi uchun nima yoki qanday yul tutish kerak deb uylaysiz? What about H visa?

hurmat bilan,

[bonu]

Rahmat javobiz uchun.

Lekin masalani kup tomoni ochiq qolmoqda. Masalan, har doim ham beravermaydi degan gapizdan, bazida J-1 dan keyin F beriladi degan hulosa qisa buladi, tugrimi? Uzi bu narsa qonuniymi? Undan tashqari konsul ishonch kuzi bilan qarashi uchun nima yoki qanday yul tutish kerak deb uylaysiz? What about H visa?

hurmat bilan,
Ha, man ko'plarni bilaman J-1 dan F-1 vizasiga otganlarni, ular, ko'p hollarda, oqishlarini davom ettirish maqsadida shunday qiladilar. Ularning biron bir universitetda tahsil olaetganliklari haqida isbotlari boladi. Buning ozi konsulga etarli bolsa kerak. F-1 dan keyin H-1 ham olganlarni bilaman. Bularning hammasi qonuniy. Ammo, baribir, ular vataniga qaytish majburiyatini otashlari kerak, umuman olganda. Yoki, htoshmatov aytganlaridek, waiver olishlari mumkin, ammo waiver osonlikcha berilmaydi. Immigraciya qonuni juda mushkul. Konsul ishonch kozi bilan qarashi uchun nima qilish kerakligini aniq ayta olmayman.