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Mr.Patriot
12-01-2003, 05:05 AM
Ma'lumki, bugun-gi kunda turli mamlakatlarda universitetlarda o'qish tizimi turlicha. Masalan bizda o'qish tizimi (mening fikrimcha) boshqa bir qancha davlatlarnikidan ancha farqli. O'quv yilini boshlanishi, baholash tizimi, sohalarni tanlash va fanlarni o'qitish. Ko'pgina mamlakatlarda talabalar o'zi hohlagan fanlarni tanlab o'qishi mumkin. Shuningdek ularda baholash tizimi ham bizlarnikidan farqli o'laroq Zachotka balo battar narsalar mavjud emas, shuningdek talabalar universitet domlalariga ham qistir qistir qilmaydi. Albatta bunga turli sabablar bo'r.

Endi savol shundaki. O'zbekistonda o'liy ta'lim tizimiga qanday qaraysiz?
Izohlar keltirib, mamlakat o'liy ta'lim tizimi haqida to'liq ma'lumot bersangizlar va zarur bo'lgan o'zgarishlar.

12-02-2003, 01:56 AM
O'quv sistemasi O#zbekistonda umuman talabga javob bermaydi!
Talim sistemasini radikal o'zgartirish lozim.

Cutie
12-02-2003, 11:18 AM
Sorry for replying in English
Here couple of points need to be considered
1. Organisational structure of education system is very old, like beuraucratic and too much intervention of govt. So education system needs to be independend solely concerning education and R&D
2. Overall student & learning support is very low. I mean library material and other support services. I personally know some students use books from 1980's in order to learn about marketing which puzzles me is this book really give knowlege about marketing for today?????. Never mention the Internet.
3.Admission to universities is open to abuse and corruption. Furthermore there is no intencive for applicants since there more chance failing than entrying to uni.
4. Marking and exams also open to abuse and corruption. Because students and marker (examiner) know each other so well that there is no need for such thing as impartiality or independence. Hence how it is possible to know real (fair) mark student get?
5. There is no sence direction and specialisation. Do current students/school leavers know what they gonna do after finishing uni/school. Furthermore students must be able to choose to learn subjects in order pursue their career which is not the case in our current education system

Dunyokezganqalandar
12-02-2003, 11:19 AM
o'zbekiston universitetelarida o'qish tizimi juda past, odam shuni ko'rganidan keyin bizani ajdodlarimiz beruniy buhoriylar bo'lganiga ishongisi kelmaydi, ayniqsa o'sha domlalar tanish bilish bilan boyvachchalarning bollariga universitetga kirib olishi uchun porani og'ziga tiqishini aytmaysizmi?! :shock:

GAGARIN
12-02-2003, 04:30 PM
Obsheobrazovatelnaya sistema v Uzbekistane navernoye na odnom iz samih poslednih po reytingu mest sredi stran mira. Ona nujdayetsa ne tolko v reforme, schitayu shto yeyo voobshe nado ubrat i vvesti sovershenno inuyu. V universitetah u nas uchat odnomu, kak davat' vzyatki prepodam i dekanam. Tak o kakom je obrazovanii mojet voobshe idti rech pri takom rasklade, a delo ne v plohih uchitelyah, i daje ne v bogatih studentah, delo v nashem pravitelstve, kotoroye natolknulo prepodovateley na takiye shagi. Yesli mi hotim sovremennuyu, otvechayushuyu na vse trebovaniya Obrazovatelnuyu sistemu, to nam nujno imet snachala normalniy uroven jizni v Uzbekistane. A chto bi imet normalniy uroven jizni, nujno imet normalnuyu ekonomiku, kotoroy k sojelenuyu u nas ne budet poka za rulem koye kto. Nu poziciya naverno moya yasna. Vot i vsyo chto ya hotel skazat. Yesli kto to ne soglasen, pust' ostavit post. Bye.

Max_
12-03-2003, 07:46 AM
ya za svobodnoe poseshenie =)

ho'kiz
12-03-2003, 08:25 AM
Avvalambor Uzbekistonda ijtimoiy va iqtisodiy ahvolni yaxshilash kerak dep oylayman.Chunki hammaga malumki , zachetlar vaqtida soqqakahlik boshlanadi,bu muallimlarning aybi dep oylamayman.Nega? berayotgan oyligi yol kirasiga yetadi.Muallimnig esa bola-chaqasi, qozon-tovogi va boshqa narsalari bor.
Iqdisodiy va ijtimoiy axvolni togirlash uchun nima qilish kerak??!! sizlarga savol.

MEO
12-03-2003, 09:28 AM
ya za svobodnoe poseshenie =)
TUYA CHOLNI ORTASIDA HAMMOMNI ORZU QILIB QOLIBDI

Dunyokezganqalandar
12-05-2003, 06:26 PM
MEO, manimcha to'g'rirog'i
tuya hommomni orzu qilibdi
yoki
tuyani dumu yerga tekkanda
deyish kerak