Aviakatastrofani kimni bo'yniga qo'yishdi?!

[Dunyokezganqalandar]

hammamiz Toshkent aeroportidagi Yak-40 samolotining halokatini guvohi bo'ldik....nimagadir manimcha hozirda yo'q odamlarni ayblash osonmi tushunmadim...bu halokatda 5 ta ekipaj aybdor ekanligini malumqilishdi... rostmi yolg'onmi bilmadimu, lekin o'sha tekshiruvchilar uchun eng oson va janjalsiz "resheniya" deb bilaman, ular o'zini ko'tini o'ylab, vafot etganlarni ayblasa aeroportga shaniga ham, prestijiga unchalik ta'sir qilmaydi..va shu...
http://www.uzland.uz/2004/january/17/07.htm

samolyot ikki marta qo'nishga harakat qilgan va shassi chiqmagan nima ekipaj, shassini atidan chiqarmaganmi, yo'q ular chiqara olmagan, va bu ularni aybi emas...oqlamoqchi emasmanku lekin...nohaqlik.. deb bilaman..bu aybni

[Royal]

http://newsru.com/world/17jan2004/yak40.html

[Dunyokezganqalandar]

Royal, yahshi silka lekin ularni bo'yniga qo'yish to'g'ri emas

[tunkis]

Qanaqasiga to`g`ri emas??

Borgan gapni aytish noto`g`rimi?

Vse slishali virajenie "chelovecheskiy faktor". Samolyot tehnik jihatdan sog` bo`lgan.
Masalan, moshinada avariya bo`lganlarni aksari haydovchi aybi bilan bo`ladi-ku. Va bunga qo`shimcha bo`lib,har hil tabiiy holatlar ham "yordam" berishi mumkin. Masalan, muzlagan yol, tuman va hokazo.
Toshkentdagi fojiada ham tuman bo`lgan va samolyot qo`nish yolidan(polosa) deyarli uchib o`tib ketgan ekan.
Shunga ekipaj aybi deb eshitganimda hech hayron bo`lmadim.

Faqatgina odamlarga achindim.

Yana bir marotaba ta'ziya bildirib,

tunkis

[Royal]

Bu yerda bir qancha tahminiy versiyalar mavjud:

1. Samalyotni gildiragi chiqmagan.
2. Aeroportda tuman bolgan.
3. Uchuvchilar ichishgan bolishi mumkin.

Bu 3 tahmin mantiqga togri kelmiydi, agarda 17 yoshidan beri uchuvchi bolgan odam samalyotni aeroportga kozini yumib qondirishi mumkin.

4. Samalyotda guvoh bolgan.
???????????????

Anchadan beri UZbda biror kori hol bolgani yoq, agarda yahshi bir nom bilan UZB dunyoda esalnmasa yomon bilan ham tilga olinishi mumkin va muhofazalari uchun bolgan fondlardan mablaglar ajratilishi turgan gap.
Agarda shu fojiani togri yol bilan olib borishganda.

Faqat odamlar uvol.

[Dunyokezganqalandar]

tunkis, somolyotning shassi si chiqmagan buni deyarli hamma tan olgan , lekin tumanda ular qanaqa qilib ko'rishgan demak ular aldashgan yoki uncha tuman bo'lmagan...
ekipaj 2 marta qo'nishga harakat qilgan, sabab shassi chiqmagan, shassi chiqmagandan keyin polosada uchib chiqib ketadida!!!

[Mona Lisa]

I may not be good at technical/engineering side of the problem but..
Air traffic controlers probably knew problem with the landing gear because there was a few attempts to land. So there was time lap between those attempts if that is the case then rescue operators should have been informed. The incedent happened not too far away rather it was just edge of airport area. Why then so many people died so quickly? Did they call rescue operations on time? :( :?

[ThisIsMee]

http://www.airliners.net/photos/small/7/2/2/219227.jpg
http://www.airliners.net/photos/small/4/0/5/190504.jpg

Powerplants

Yak-40 - Three 14.7kN (3300lb) Ivchenko AI-25 turbofans.

Performance

Yak-40 - Max cruising speed 550km/h (297kt), economical cruising speed 470km/h (254kt). Range with max payload of 32 passengers 1450km (780nm), range with max fuel 1800km (970nm).
Yak-40D - Range with maximum fuel and reserves 2200km (1185nm).

Weights

Yak-40 - Empty 9400kg (20,725lb), max takeoff 16,000kg (35,275lb).
Yak-40D - max takeoff 17,200kg (37,920lb)

Dimensions

Wing span 25.00m (82ft 0in), length 20.36m (66ft 10in), height 6.50m (21ft 4in). Wing area 70.0m2 (735.5sq ft).

Capacity

Flightcrew of three (two pilots and engineer). Typical passenger seating arrangement for 27 at three abreast and 78cm (30in) pitch. Maximum seating for 32 in a high density four abreast configuration. Some fitted with corporate interiors with seating arrangements for 12-15 passengers.

Production

Total Yak-40 production is 1011, of which approximately 750 were built for Aeroflot. Approximately 490 remained in airline service in late 2000, others are used as corporate transports.

[Dunyokezganqalandar]

Mona Lisa, i have the same question...
but plane blew up and fell in the river....in the river and how all people burnt, they all died by burning or by smoke...

[Mona Lisa]

Dunyokezganqalandar,
You'll never get answers publicly. Since they've already announced the 'culprit'. And unfortunatly they are dead. One more thing the announcement was very quick i.e. in 3/4 days. Quite impressive don't you think? :rolleyes:

[ThisIsMee]

Has this incident ever surfaced on media in Uzbekistan. This shows that there have been an airdisaster involving the rusty Yak-40(Uzbekistan Airways) merely 5 year ago. Year 1999 Uzbekistan Airways, Yak-40. Crashed while landing at Turtkul (http://www.airdisaster.com/cgi_bin/airline_detail.cgi?airline=Uzbekistan+Airways)
Also, notice that the probability of surviving the Yak-40 crash is very close to nill Survival rate for Yak-40. (http://www.airdisaster.com/cgi_bin/aircraft_detail.cgi?aircraft=Yakovlev+YAK-40)

[Mona Lisa]

Has this incident ever surfaced on media in Uzbekistan. This shows that there have been an airdisaster involving the rusty Yak-40(Uzbekistan Airways) merely 5 year ago. Year 1999 Uzbekistan Airways, Yak-40. Crashed while landing at Turtkul
Hmm they failed to mention that before. I read sometime ago Uzairways on board magazine which says company flights never had an accedent before and they are one of the safest. I guess editor wasn't informed about the crash either. So we, public can not expect much from them.
Also, notice that the probability of surviving the Yak-40 crash is very close to nill Survival rate for Yak-40.
That speaks for itself to a certain degree.

[Asadbek]

Ma'lumotlarga ko'ra, O'zbekiston matbuoti fojeadan so'ng 3 kun davomida bu haqda xabar berib boribdi, so'ngra hammayoq tinchibdi.
Halok bo'lganlarning ro'yxati hali matbuotda e'lon qilinmadi deb eshitdim, aniqroq infolar bormi?

[Dunyokezganqalandar]

Mona Lisa, i think it very impressive.....it was easy for them just say Ekipaj-aybdor, juda ishonarli publicity tomondan, keyin cherniy yashiklarni zamaska qilib rasshifrovkasidan bildik deyishadi....buni orqasidan uzbek airways va MVD ga ham kam tashvish, ish yopiladi qo'yadi untill next crash...mana Turtkulda ham huddi shu bo'lgan, lekin endi Toshkentdagini vobshe yashirib bo['lmaydi...shunga mediadan ko'rsatishgan ...bo;lmasa uni ham zamaska qivarishadi...
mana endi Yak-40 olib tashlashdi vaqtinchalik...