Stock Ideas (For On-Line Investing)

[Крейсер]

Hey!

it might be a stretch to do this on this forum but i thought i'd try.

I recently opened an internet trading account (you only need $500). Are there any stocks that you follow? Have you studied a company and its strategy made sense to you?

If you have any ideas for good stock let's share them.

C

[ThisIsMee]

You sound like LSE Alumn.

Have a look at my portfolio performance.
Total Return: 99.18%, as in Todays

[Крейсер]

Gap,

Слышь, я в реале хотел купить.

Вымпелнинг Р/Е ёмон эмас. Факат кимматрок эканда. 500-2000га олинса 75 долларлик акция арзирмикан?

А чем Вымпел и Флекс привлекли твоё внимание? И чем вызван рост?
А сейчас если брать - то недорого? (за 12 мес. Вымпел с 30 поднялся до 75.) Насколько возможен дальнейший рост.

С

[Крейсер]

Я сейчас подумываю над покупкой Lucent (LU). В октябре мой друг изучал их "стратегию по реструктаризации" и был впечатлён. Купил по 2 с чем-то, сейчас свыше 4. Он до сих пор держит их.

Спасибо за участие, если будут советы, дай знать.

С

[Крейсер]

Gap и др. участники топика,

Только что купил LU (Lucent Technologies).

Вымпел тоже хорошая компания - все форумы говорят, что нужно покупать. Дороговато (т.е. капиталоемкое дело). 77 долл.! Можно опционы купить, только мне нельзя, т.к. тип счета не позволяет.

С

[tunkis]

Раз уж начали, тогда давайте на понятном всем языке. :shock:

Не все тут экономисты и LSE alumnees ;) :D

можно ли нам тоже здесь деньги сделать? ;)

[Крейсер]

tunkis,

я тоже вообще-то не выпускник ЛШЭ. деньги сделать можно если у тебя есть то, чего нет у остальных участников рынка (инфо, способности, предвидение).

если этого нет, то лучше инвестировать в широкий портфель акций через специальные акции ETF (как Mutual Fund, но лучше), например ETF индексов.

в индексы сша не советую инвестировать, так как многие умные люди считают, что они переоценены. по крайней мере не надо всё вкладывать туда. говорят европейские индексы лучше. но только Бог знает.

мой совет: скажем есть 10 тыс для инвестиций. я бы купил 25% некоторые SP500 index (SPY), 50% Europe350 (IEV), а остальные 25% на спекулятивные вещи, чтобы поиграть и научиться основам рынка. А если не хочется спекулировать, последние 25% положить в Мировой индекс (IOO).

Сноска: ненавязчиво выражаю собственное мнение и никому не советую распределять свои ресурсы в данных пропорциях.

[Dunyokezganqalandar]

Крейсер, ti mojesh uchastvovat yesli u tebya est money in your VISA account?

[Крейсер]

Dunyokezganqalandar,

кредитка? теоретически можно, но будет стоить дорого. объясняю:

1) когда открываешь брокерский счет, ты перечисляешь деньги в него через банковский перевод или чек. Почти все кредитки дают тебе чек (money advance checks). Но когда пишешь чек на свои кредитный счет, ты платишь комиссию от суммы.

2) пока ты там торгуешь, на кредитке наворачиваются проценты. БОЛЬШИЕ проценты (9 с лишним). Я думаю, не окупится, особенно если ето в первый раз.

Мой совет: можно открыть margin account (минимум 2000 долл.), но зато ты можешь торговать акциями на сумму не больше, чем на 4000 долл, т.е. сам брокер дает тебе кредит. По нему ставки ниже чем кредитные, около 5-9 процентов. Но если честно, я сам против заимствования.

С

[Крейсер]

еще одно...этим нужно заниматься не тем, кто хочет делать деньги!!!!!!
а тем, у кого они есть (более менее) и они хотят либо ими управлять (с риском) или научиться основам рынка.

[Royal]

Dunyokezganqalandar
I hope You are asking VISA - Debit card account, otherwise how american say, playing in market for the loan, business for poor people. becareful, advise don't even think to plasy for the loan.

[Крейсер]

Check out VIP - Вымпелком (Би-Лайн). It is in top 10 gainers on NYSE as of 3:30pm.

shweet. too bad did not buy it at 75.

C

[WASP]

Hee hee.. Krejser Krejser.

Neskol'ko voprosov k tebe, esli ne vozrozhaesh:

1. Imeetsya li u tebya licenziya na brokerovskiy akount? - Ya zakony horosho znayu, net licenzii, net akounta!
2. Yavlyaeshsya li ty grazhdaninom SSHA? - Esli net.. to s tebya za kuplyu prodazh akciyami ne smogut sobirat' nalogi - ne nalogo platel'schikam ne otkryvayut akount brokera.
3. $500 - hahahh! Ne znayu, znaesh li ty ili.. net, za kazhduyu pokupku i prodazhu akcii firma na kotoruyu ty vozmozhno zaregistrirovalsya sobiraet po $10-$20. Pri $500 v akounte pokupat' v akcii s SP500 prosto smeshno! Tem bolee kak ty utochnil, 500x.25=125, za 125.. esche huzhe haha...za 125 chto ty sobralsya kupit' (u tebya okolo $40 tolko dlya togo chto by kupit' prodat' akcii v reale, kupil prodal kupil "one share" ..bylo 125..net 125 :)? Bratan, horosh chepuhu tolkat'. No, esli ty na samom dele otkryl akount, podskazhi na kakuyu firmu (. com) ty rabotaesh.

[Крейсер]

TT,

scottrade.com
you need NOT to be a broker. millions of individuals do it in the US. as a non-US citizen you can open an account but you have to have a social security number.

$500 minimum to start. you might want to invest more. I'd recommend no less than 4-5k.

let's say you buy 1000 shares of Lucent Technologies at $4. That is $4000, plus $7 comission which is only .7 cents per share. So one share costs you $4.007.

lastly, get a grip. let's talk after you learn more about the subject. until then you are on the ingore list.
C

[WASP]

Listen, I was not trying to offend you, so no need to be rude.

lastly, get a grip. let's talk after you learn more about the subject. until then you are on the ingore list.

I have been in the market when I was 16, when they did not have those "new" rules and rugulations imposed... bro, it does not matter whether it is scottrade.com fedelity.com ameritrade.com tdwaterhouse.com and finally the one that I used sharebuilder.com, they are not the ones who will grant you the permission to trade.. it is the Credit Information Services (CIS) which is directly affiliated with the government. You cannot trade in NYSE if you are not a US citizen period. But I will sure check with them, as my accnt in sharebuilder.com is still active. If they changed the laws.. great, but I don't think they did.

Besides, if you did seriously got into market - great. If you are thinking about about investing in Lucent Tech. Inc.. think again, although they are expected to outperform the market, tech. stocks are now out of favor... too risky, especially when you are investing in a company whos sales are down by $160 million for last 12 months. I apologize if I came out as a complete jerk, but I simply cannot stand those who 'f' around messing with people's head.. I am not saying you did, but I hesistate to believe that you are in market, but we will see. I might be wrong.

[Крейсер]

TT,

i think you got to be 18 or older to participate. i actually am trading and holding a portfolio of 5 stocks (that is 5 different companies not 5 shares). :)

i don't know what how else i can convince you (although it is not my goal to convince you).

C

PS sharebuilder refused to open an account for me because they only serve US citizens. So I have two accounts: one with scottrade and one with ameritrade.

PPS lucent was $2.5 when i looked at it, now it is $4. go figure... it was just an example not advice.

[WASP]

Krejser,

well, than I guess I might be wrong. Because I was using sharebuilder.com and I had just one stock.. but very strong one. They closed my account, returned my money and took away my stock in 2001/2002, I was working on behalf of my relative with fake SSN, as you mentioned I am supposed to be 18 to trade. But then this year, when I turned 18, I tried to register myself, and I did. But the CIS sent me a mail about them rejecting my account. That's where I derived my assumptions.

Lucent indeed has been performing well, but they are tech company, which are presently out of favor according to my recent research... many tech companies including very strong ones, such as Dell and Intel, are not credible companies to invest to due to jobs going overseas to India, engineers etc. There is a chance they might be cheating as they cannot be controled as well as they are in the US,thus they will be making more money by cuting on wages (cheap labor in India), and yet they will try to cheat its investors dismissing the fact that the less money spent on the labor.. etc.etc it is your decision nonetheless, and it was my two cents. I will try to register with scottrade.com and let you know the results.. I do hope I was wrong in this case :P

[WASP]

Overall in 5 years Lucent's performance is down by 27% until today. Moreover, they lost $160 million in *incomes* just in last 12 months, which leaves you with 0.00% devidents.. i don't see why would you invest in something that won't yield any money whatsoever.

[Крейсер]

Wasp,
yes LU really sucked. what do you think about Sattelite radio stocks? There are two of them XMSR and SIRI?
thanks,
Aurora

[Martingale]

Wasp,
yes LU really sucked. what do you think about Sattelite radio stocks? There are two of them XMSR and SIRI?
thanks,
Aurora

kreyser, I am interested in trading too.

I have done lots of simulation stock trading games in class, off-school etc.

Right now Im trading on factsim (futures) in one of my classes. I got some ideas about derivatives. I think Im making good money for now. But money is not real. but factsim allows to make it real.(factsim also gives real-time quotes) couple of guys(mostly MBAs) are trading on their own money. But I personally beleive that trading can only benefit you if you have large amount of money.

how does this stocktrade work. how large the margin amount, if I want to buy or short sell on margin? can anyone without nasd licenses trade throuhg it? Im not good at these things, but eager to know.
finally, how much you made so far? what was your rate of return?
thansk, in advance.;)

[Hamitovich]

kreyser, I am interested in trading too.

I have done lots of simulation stock trading games in class, off-school etc.

Right now Im trading on factsim (futures) in one of my classes. I got some ideas about derivatives. I think Im making good money for now. But money is not real. but factsim allows to make it real.(factsim also gives real-time quotes) couple of guys(mostly MBAs) are trading on their own money. But I personally beleive that trading can only benefit you if you have large amount of money.

how does this stocktrade work. how large the margin amount, if I want to buy or short sell on margin? can anyone without nasd licenses trade throuhg it? Im not good at these things, but eager to know.
finally, how much you made so far? what was your rate of return?
thansk, in advance.;)

You better trade commodity futures, guys!

[Крейсер]

to the previous two posters:

STOCKS
I don't trade on margin and I don't short. Simply buying and selling it is very limiting, but it is better to stay away from something you are not comfortable with.

scottrade, e-trade and many others are online retail brokers. they trade on your behalf so that you don't have to have any license. comissions vary from $7-20 per trade.


FUTURES
You need a separate broker for futures. I am thinking about it but can not find someone who's done it and can explain how it works. Because with futures it is like trading on margin, you can get significant expoure without putting up much money. Again, it is dangerous because you are leveraging (borrowing) up.


So no word on Sattelite Radio stocks?

[Oyaji]

Folks, is it a good time for investing into Japanese market today, what do you think?

Today Nikkei 225 index is at 13,505 - 21.5% down from 52 weeks back.

Could this be a momentum for it to turn upwards?

[passer_by]

It is much harder than I initially thought. Americans became a very buerocratic. I don't know if it worth. :?
Hee hee.. Krejser Krejser.

Neskol'ko voprosov k tebe, esli ne vozrozhaesh:

1. Imeetsya li u tebya licenziya na brokerovskiy akount? - Ya zakony horosho znayu, net licenzii, net akounta!
2. Yavlyaeshsya li ty grazhdaninom SSHA? - Esli net.. to s tebya za kuplyu prodazh akciyami ne smogut sobirat' nalogi - ne nalogo platel'schikam ne otkryvayut akount brokera.
3. $500 - hahahh! Ne znayu, znaesh li ty ili.. net, za kazhduyu pokupku i prodazhu akcii firma na kotoruyu ty vozmozhno zaregistrirovalsya sobiraet po $10-$20. Pri $500 v akounte pokupat' v akcii s SP500 prosto smeshno! Tem bolee kak ty utochnil, 500x.25=125, za 125.. esche huzhe haha...za 125 chto ty sobralsya kupit' (u tebya okolo $40 tolko dlya togo chto by kupit' prodat' akcii v reale, kupil prodal kupil "one share" ..bylo 125..net 125 :)? Bratan, horosh chepuhu tolkat'. No, esli ty na samom dele otkryl akount, podskazhi na kakuyu firmu (. com) ty rabotaesh.