Grave mistakes of Hizbut Tahrir!

[AbdurRahman]

Founded by Taqi ud-Din an-Nabahani, a Mu'tazilee and Ash'aree in thought and belief, this group has made the restoration of the Khilafah the main focus of its call (http://www.spubs.com/sps/sp.cfm?secID=GRV&subsecID=GRV03&loadpage=displaysu bsection.cfm)

[Gareeb]

Hurmatli Adminstratorlar, bu yana nimasi. Hozirgina bittasini qulflasa yana boshqasi boshladimi? Yuqotiylar bunaqangi topiclarni. Nima keragi bor har hil firqalarni bu erda muhokama qilishni. Bu erda gapirilsa faqat Quroni Karim V aHadisi SHarif gapirilsin.ILTIMOS.

[mujreem]

Wohobilani ham ban qilish keri torimi betayin? ;)

[AbdurRahman]

Allaah subhanahu wa ta'ala orders us to enjoin the good and forbid the evil. and in usool us sunnah forbidding evil precedes enjoining the good.

The reason why i posted abt mistakes of hizbut tahrir is that I heard many times some uzbeks especially those r in UK; london have mixed up with hizbut tahrir and joined them. Allaahummusta'an. and U all aware that how much fitnah and killings this hizbut tahrir caused in uzbekistan and in other places. I have to love for my brother what I love formyself. I dont want that my uzbek brothers and other muslim brothers join hizbut tahrir and mislead by them. That is why i posted above link so that people will be aware of grave mistakes of hizbut tahrir and thus be away frm it. But if posting that link causing more harm than good then I agree to remove this thread totally barakaAllaahu feek.

as What brother mujreem (May Allaah guide him and give him understanding of deen) trying to accuse me of being 'wahaabi'. I dont know what he means by that. If he means by wahaabi likes of bin ladin, islamic movement of uzbekistan , and other revolutionary people like them, then I free myself from them, and from their actions.

I would also request brother Observer to control places where people are accused without any daleel in order to establish justice. Jazakallah Khayr.

[Alouddin]

assalamu alaykum
betayin, menimcha bu postda hizbiylarni hatolari va kamchiliklari ko'rsatilgan maqolalarga link berilgan... what's wrong with it?!.

AbdurRahman, I would also request brother Observer to control places where people are accused without any daleel in order to establish justice. Jazakallah Khayr. I haven't observed any false accusations yet...

wassalam

[ayatullah]

" But if posting that link causing more harm than good then I agree to remove this thread totally barakaAllaahu feek."

Please do remove this thread since it is causing nothing but confusion and harm. I find a lot of slander is spread over the internet about HT in relation to aqeedah, slander by people who have no knowledge of HT and their views about aqeedah. It's disgusting how this is present in multiple threads on this forum and throughout the internet, and that by the writings of muslims themselves.

In the past some scholars have said muslims should belief in grave punishment but not take it into their aqeedah, others said it should, however they recognised and respected the difference of opinion. We need to do this when looking at other muslims.

AbdurRahman, assume my aqeedah is exactly the same as yours, except on one issue where I believe in grave punishment 99.9999'% rather then 100%. Assume the small difference has been supported by classical scholars. Will you now call me a kafir or a sect?

Hizb Tahrir does not adopt on any aqeedah, however it says its members must believe in the minimum articles of faith to be considered muslim. 100% certainty in grave punishment is not one of these articles. Thus Hizb Tahrir will consider someone who does take grave punishment into their aqeedah and someone who may not as muslims. This is why their are members of Hizb Tahrir who DO take grave punishment into their aqeedah and their are members who may believe in it 99.99999*%

I maybe someone who takes beliefs based on ahad hadiths into my aqeedah and be a member of Hizb Tahrir. However if someone does not take ahad based beliefs into their aqeedah I will not call them kafir/sect, I will recognise this as difference of opinion(due to what classical scholars said) and treat them as muslim brothers. As you can see Hizb Tahrir respects all aqeedahs which can be classified due to valid differences in opinion. They expect their members to tolerate differences, but they do not say all members cannot take grave punishment into their aqeedah. Thats is upto the muslim based on which views they feel is strongest.

Another way of looking at this is the khilfah will have to kill apostates. If a muslim comes and says I dont believe in angels he will be considered an apostate and killed. This is because there is no difference of opinion on whether angels are 100% for obvious reasons. On the other hand if a muslim says:
"I believe in everything 100% except beliefs based on ahad hadith which I believe to be 99.99*%. The reason why I believe this because they are based on ahad hadith and scholars have supported this view".
then he will not be considered apostate.

Of course if the khalifah feels this issues is causing fitah then he will adopt what he thinks are the requirements to be a muslims e.g. he may include grave punishment to be in the aqeedah. If so all muslims must follow.

Having said that I doubt he will adopt this since the views about not taking ahad hadith based beliefs into the aqeedah is recognised by most shcolars.

Inshallah this clarifies all this nonsence.

[Royal]

Wohobilani ham ban qilish keri torimi betayin? ;)
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