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vassili
04-27-2004, 03:01 PM
Bir savol keb qoldi, faraz qilin toydan keyin yangi - chiroyli hotiniyizni Virgin emasligini bilib qoldiyiz, Nima qigan bolar ediz? (manga tegishli yamon gapla gapirganni hotini non-virgin bo'lsin !!! :lol: )

Joha
04-27-2004, 04:30 PM
The post has been moved as It (The question and Poll) has no connection with Religion.

Mazhur "So'rov" Dinga munosabati yoqligi sababli bu sahifadan ko'chirildi.

vassili
04-27-2004, 08:02 PM
The post has been moved as It (The question and Poll) has no connection with Religion.

Mazhur "So'rov" Dinga munosabati yoqligi sababli bu sahifadan ko'chirildi.
Mayli, o'chirib tashlamagani'laga katta rahmat! bettigi ass pass larni korib, salomat bo'lilar!!! :D

Unregistered
04-27-2004, 08:16 PM
First of all I'd make sure before marriage. If I was betrayed, I'd politely get divorced, without publisizing the fact.

If I didn't have chance to make sure, as for our traditions (brides found by parents), I'd get divorced anyways. With the same politelessness. No difference if the girl is awfull, love and etc...

There's one man for one woman. Don't want to be one of those losers who passes by without having his own woman.

vassili
04-27-2004, 08:21 PM
First of all I'd make sure before marriage. If I was betrayed, I'd politely get divorced, without publisizing the fact.

If I didn't have chance to make sure, as for our traditions (brides found by parents), I'd get divorced anyways. With the same politelessness. No difference if the girl is awfull, love and etc...

There's one man for one woman. Don't want to be one of those losers who passes by without having his own woman.
Yashshavorin-ey, ana erkelayam borakan-u yozadigan... kelajak turmushiyizga omadla... Virginidan toping (o'ziyiz virgin bomasayizam :lol: /hazllashdim/)

a_farganiy
04-27-2004, 10:38 PM
Bir savol keb qoldi, faraz qilin toydan keyin yangi - chiroyli hotiniyizni Virgin emasligini bilib qoldiyiz, Nima qigan bolar ediz? (manga tegishli yamon gapla gapirganni hotini non-virgin bo'lsin !!! :lol: )
Allohning o'zi asrasin bunday sharoitlardan ilohim...

vassili
04-27-2004, 10:42 PM
Allohning o'zi asrasin bunday sharoitlardan ilohim...
Man bu savolni berishimdan maqsad eshitishimga qaraganda ko'pchilik shunaqa ahvolga tushib qovottiykande hozrgi vaqtda... o'shanga silarri fikrilani so'ragandim...:?

a_farganiy
04-27-2004, 10:53 PM
Man bu savolni berishimdan maqsad eshitishimga qaraganda ko'pchilik shunaqa ahvolga tushib qovottiykande hozrgi vaqtda... o'shanga silarri fikrilani so'ragandim...:?Bo'lmasa mening fikrim agar iymoni uylangan vaqtingizda kuchli, boshqa unaqa yamon ishlarga kirib ketmaydigan bo'lsa siz aytgan relationshipni davom
ettiraverar edim, lekin baribiram hudo saqlasin deyman....

Asadbek
04-28-2004, 02:01 AM
Bir ayolga bir erkak! :)

Slimshady
04-28-2004, 03:50 AM
Birinchidan oladigon ayol insoli bolsin.. Ilohim... shunakasini kidirib yurib olamiz... imon insopli deb olgan ayolingiz shundok bolsa... ahvoliga va ishlagan jrumidan nahoyatta uyalgan bolsa uni kechirish yollarini oylanish kerak... erkak bolsak ohirigacha erkaklik kliish kerak... tem bolee Alloh Sattordur gunohlarni yashirsanigz ularni bolamganday hisoblaydi...

men shahsan hotnim imon insopli bolib ishlagan gunoh ishidan hakikatdan ham uyat bolib, tavbakor bolib kolgan bolsa meni uni kechirar bolardim... ahir ozingiz oylang erkaklar... u hotin siz talok kilganingizdan kegin kayokka boradi... yashirib divorce kilgan bolardim debsiz.. hayotta yashira olmaysiz. devorni ham kulogi bor deydiku... u kiz hakida mish mishlar tarkalib ozini oldirib olishi ham mumkin ana oshanda siz katil kilgan bolasiz u zino bilan bab barobar... oshaning uchun talok malok bitta hotinga bitta erkak deyishdan oldin kelib chikadigonlarni ham oylab gapirilar... Hudoyim hech kimimizga bunaka musibat a'to etmasim... Ozi asrasin...



Davayte a tak ... j.......p bosa konechno men ham idi po dalshe dimanda :)))

tak care

shaken
04-28-2004, 08:44 AM
endi birodarla.. uje bilbo'ganidan keyin qarorga kelolmiy o'tirgan kuyov bolani erke qilish kere manimcha birinchi novbatda..

atak mundo o'ylab qarasa uchrashtirib srazu to'y qiladigan zamon bumasa hozir.. oldin yaxshilabro tanishadide to'ydan oldin agar tekshirib ko'rish qo'ldan kemasa..

Kolobok
04-28-2004, 09:26 AM
Этот топик - одна из больных тем узбекского народа.
Вопрос на засыпку:
Если парни намерены жениться только на детственниц,что будете делать,если девушки в свою очередь будут требовать,чтоб их будущий жених был детственником?

Maroon
04-28-2004, 09:48 AM
Guys get a life.

Did you post this post coz you know that the numbers of so called "virgins" are decreasing? LOOOL! Eh vi bechorashki.

Takie egoisti. All you can is screw around with girls and then except them to be virgins.

Kolobok, I guess in the future women will except their husbands to be virgins,LOL! Eto bilo bi chto to!:cool:

Cheers!
p.S Oh yeah sorry that I interfered in a "guys talk".:lol:

Maroon
04-28-2004, 10:07 AM
It is like saying what a girl would do if her "man" turned out to be impotent?

Don't get insulted though you "manly" human beings.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Joha
04-28-2004, 10:23 AM
Davayte a tak , j.....p bosa konechno men ham idi po dalshe dimanda :)))

tak care

Iltimos sal qog'ozga orab gapirilar!

SayFuLLoH
04-28-2004, 11:04 AM
Qogozga orashdi!:)

vassili
04-28-2004, 12:19 PM
Guys get a life.

Did you post this post coz you know that the numbers of so called "virgins" are decreasing? LOOOL! Eh vi bechorashki.

Takie egoisti. All you can is screw around with girls and then except them to be virgins.

Kolobok, I guess in the future women will except their husbands to be virgins,LOL! Eto bilo bi chto to!:cool:

Cheers!
p.S Oh yeah sorry that I interfered in a "guys talk".:lol:
Ofarin Lady D(ilnoza, ilafruz ... bilmadim), lekin qoyil, mardlarcha forumga kiribsiz, sizdaka mard ayollardan butun o'zbek halqi fahrlansa arziydi. Javobingiz uchun minnaddormiza, salomat boling...

vassili
04-28-2004, 12:21 PM
It is like saying what a girl would do if her "man" turned out to be impotent?
Don't get insulted though you "manly" human beings.
:lol: :lol: :lol:Man lichna lekin sizi hapa qib qoymasidim :lol: ,
voy yo'g'e yana hudo biladi :lol:

Royal
04-28-2004, 12:45 PM
Man lichna lekin sizi hapa qib qoymasidim :lol: ,
voy yo'g'e yana hudo biladi :lol:
Tufliyin turganda kalish sudrarmidin?

vassili
04-28-2004, 01:43 PM
Tufliyin turganda kalish sudrarmidin?Oshan'ga Yana hudo biladi devommande Royal

vipshams
04-28-2004, 03:06 PM
Bir savol keb qoldi, faraz qilin toydan keyin yangi - chiroyli hotiniyizni Virgin emasligini bilib qoldiyiz, Nima qigan bolar ediz? (manga tegishli yamon gapla gapirganni hotini non-virgin bo'lsin !!! :lol: )

VASSILIJON. Sizga qarshi gap gapirmoqchi emasman. :)
Hechkimda bunaqa voqea sodir bo'lmasin. Lekin hayotda ko'p eshitganman bundaylarni.
Ko'pchilik keltirib o'tishibdi..Agar Iymoni kuchli bo'lsa., gunohkor bo'lmasa.....men hayotimni davom ettirardim..deb...Men ularga ham qarshi gapirmoqchi emasman.
Shuning uchun misollarga tayanib gapiraman.

1). O'zim juda yaxshi taniydigan odam uylandi..Va siz aytgandek..Nima qilsin.Yigitlik g'ururi..degan narsa bor. HAydavoray desa.....Xotinning ota onasi erning ota onasiga yaqin tanishlar. Tanish -bilishchilik aloqalari uziladi..Haydamay desa..Aytganimdek..Oriyat...
Bo'lmadi..4 oydan keyin xotiniga nima bo'lganligini yozdirib olib, Javobini berdi...Aytganimdek tanish -bilishchilik aloqalari birozgina chetga surildi..

a). Uylandingiz, usha yuqoridagi gaplar....Xotiningizning iymoni ham kuchli deylik...Ertaga bordiyu..oradan 4-5 yoki 10-15 yil o'tsayu..bir joyi kelib qolib....bitta <<G'isht bashara>> odam sizning yuzingizga tirjayib qarab: <Xotining mendan qolgan sarqit>> degan (yoki shunga o'xshagan) gap qilsa...Sizga qanday ta'sir qilishini o'ylab ko'rdingizmi??

b). Uylandingiz, Ne-ne orzular..orada qancha qancha shirin suhbatlar, uchrashuvlar bo'lib o'tgan..Va...<<usha>> kechasi ahvol...bunaqa bo'lib tursa..Har qanday yigit ham..(mening fikrimcha) Oxirini surishtirib o'tirmaydi..(JALLOD aka aytganlaridek). Shartta javobini berib qo'yaqoladi...(Chunki bu vaqtda odam o'zini idora qilishi qiyin bo'ladi, Medicinada qanaqadir termini bor edi. hozir esimda yoq...shok ga o'xshagan narsa. Ya'ni o'ylab o'tirilmasdan qaror chiqariladi)

>. Yana bitta gap. Medicina rivojlangan sayin ko'p narsalarni iloji topilayapti. Qayta <<QIZ>> ga aylanish ham shu jumladan.(jarrohlik yo'li bilan deya qolay..)
Mening bilishimcha odatda..kelin-kuyov (er-xotin) to'ydan bir kun o'tgach..bir birlari bilan er-xotinlik munosabatda bo'lishadi. Lekin bunga ham Medicina rivoji tufayli Samarqandda chek qo'yilgan (boshqa joylarni bilmadim).

Ya'ni Kelin kelgach..2 kun mehmon qilinadi..kuyov (er) uchinchi kuni kelin (xotin) bilan birga bo'ladi. Sabab, Jarrohlik yo'li bilan <<qiz>> ga aylangan xotinning soxta <<NIQOB>> i bor yo'g'i 2 kunga yetadi.
Shu yo'l bilan ham necha yuzlab erkaklar <<qiz>> larga aldanadilar.
(2001 yilda jarrohlikning narxi joyiga qarab 5000 so'mdan 50.000 so'mgacha edi).

>. Endi savolga javob bersam..
Xudo ko'rsatmasin shunaqa bo'lib chiqquday bo'lsa, men Qog'oz qalam (ruchka albatta) olib, to'laligicha yozdirib olib, imzolatib olgandan keyin..Har qanday sharoitda ham kamida bir hafta yashab..(birga bo'lmasdan)..Xarakterimiz bir birimizga to'g'ri kelmadi...deb...yoki shunga o'xshagan sabani ro'kach qilib.....Javobini berardim..(Chunki u ham odamzot, xudoning bandasi, kuyganni yana kuydirib nima qildim..sharmanda qilib..)

Yana bir bor xudodan tilayman. Har kimni to'g'ri yo'lga boshqarsin...



hurmat bilan vipshams

vassili
04-28-2004, 03:40 PM
VASSILIJON. Sizga qarshi gap gapirmoqchi emasman. :)
Hechkimda bunaqa voqea sodir bo'lmasin. Lekin hayotda ko'p eshitganman bundaylarni.
Ko'pchilik keltirib o'tishibdi..Agar Iymoni kuchli bo'lsa., gunohkor bo'lmasa.....men hayotimni davom ettirardim..deb...Men ularga ham qarshi gapirmoqchi emasman.
Shuning uchun misollarga tayanib gapiraman.
>. Endi savolga javob bersam..
Xudo ko'rsatmasin shunaqa bo'lib chiqquday bo'lsa, men Qog'oz qalam (ruchka albatta) olib, to'laligicha yozdirib olib, imzolatib olgandan keyin..Har qanday sharoitda ham kamida bir hafta yashab..(birga bo'lmasdan)..Xarakterimiz bir birimizga to'g'ri kelmadi...deb...yoki shunga o'xshagan sabani ro'kach qilib.....Javobini berardim..(Chunki u ham odamzot, xudoning bandasi, kuyganni yana kuydirib nima qildim..sharmanda qilib..)

Yana bir bor xudodan tilayman. Har kimni to'g'ri yo'lga boshqarsin...



hurmat bilan vipshams
Mayli Vipshams'ni manga qarshi gapirmasdan bergan javobiga rahmat deb qolamiza, o'zini fikrini to'liq tushintirberganiga,

Qani endi bashqala... Hech javob bermagan taqdirda ham, poll'ga javob berila...

Dunyokezganqalandar
04-28-2004, 03:59 PM
yomon topic emas...manimcha JALLODning maslahatlari yahshi...umuman olganda "trouble"ni oldini olgan yahshi. lekin JALLOD ertasi qiladigan ishni vohliroq to'ydan oldin qilish kerak. Bo'lajak kelin bilan birga borib qon topshirish kerak, o'shanaqa joyga borganda boshqa venericheskiy kasallikga ham tekshirtirish kerak. keyin o'sha joyda qizdan (ochilganmi yoki yo'qmini) so'rash noqulay bo'lmaydi. agar yo'q deb aldasa to'ydan keyin ajrab ketish osonroq bo'ladi. Buning hammasi faqat er-hotin uchun emas balki bo'lajak farzandlarni sog'lig'ini nazarda tutib ham qilish kerak.

endi temadan chiqib ketish kerak emas, sagar salomatlik jihatdan hammasi yahshi bo'lsa,ikkiqat bo'lib qolmagan bo'lsa manimcha yashab ketsa bo'ladi, yoki 1-2 yil yashab ikkala tomon roziligi bilan ajrab ketish kerak. srazu ajrash yahshi emas, gap so'z ko'p bo'ladi. undan keyin shuni ham bilish kerakki bir hil qizlarda qon chiqmasligi mumkin, ayniqsa sportsmenkalarda chunki o'qiganim bo'yicha ulrda ko'p harakat natijasida yoki tug'ma elsticheskiy bo'lib birinchi marotada yirtilmasligi mumkin...shu yoqlarini ham qarash kerak...



undan keyin bitta narsani esdan chiqarmanglar,agar qon chiqdi degani bu haqiqiy virgin degani emas, chunki Toshkentni o'zida 54,000minglarga "detstvennaya pleva"ni tiklab beradigan joylar bor. ko'pchiligi plasticheskiy hirurgiyada ishlovchi ginekologlar shug'ullanishadi...
Hammamizga Ollohning o'zi insofni bersin, va zino ishlarda saqlanaylik- deb qolamiz

vassili
04-28-2004, 04:11 PM
yomon topic emas...manimcha JALLODning maslahatlari yahshi...umuman olganda "trouble"ni oldini olgan yahshi. lekin JALLOD ertasi qiladigan ishni vohliroq to'ydan oldin qilish kerak. Bo'lajak kelin bilan birga borib qon topshirish kerak, o'shanaqa joyga borganda boshqa venericheskiy kasallikga ham tekshirtirish kerak. keyin o'sha joyda qizdan (ochilganmi yoki yo'qmini) so'rash noqulay bo'lmaydi. agar yo'q deb aldasa to'ydan keyin ajrab ketish osonroq bo'ladi. Buning hammasi faqat er-hotin uchun emas balki bo'lajak farzandlarni sog'lig'ini nazarda tutib ham qilish kerak.

endi temadan chiqib ketish kerak emas, sagar salomatlik jihatdan hammasi yahshi bo'lsa,ikkiqat bo'lib qolmagan bo'lsa manimcha yashab ketsa bo'ladi, yoki 1-2 yil yashab ikkala tomon roziligi bilan ajrab ketish kerak. srazu ajrash yahshi emas, gap so'z ko'p bo'ladi. undan keyin shuni ham bilish kerakki bir hil qizlarda qon chiqmasligi mumkin, ayniqsa sportsmenkalarda chunki o'qiganim bo'yicha ulrda ko'p harakat natijasida yoki tug'ma elsticheskiy bo'lib birinchi marotada yirtilmasligi mumkin...shu yoqlarini ham qarash kerak...



undan keyin bitta narsani esdan chiqarmanglar,agar qon chiqdi degani bu haqiqiy virgin degani emas, chunki Toshkentni o'zida 54,000minglarga "detstvennaya pleva"ni tiklab beradigan joylar bor. ko'pchiligi plasticheskiy hirurgiyada ishlovchi ginekologlar shug'ullanishadi...
Hammamizga Ollohning o'zi insofni bersin, va zino ishlarda saqlanaylik- deb qolamiz
Yahshi javob bo'libdi, sizgayam rahmat, baribir Dunyoni Kezib ancha narsani tushungan odamsiz'de-a? ;) Yashen..

Kolobok
04-28-2004, 04:28 PM
Ну что,джигиты? Слабо ответить на мой вопрос?

Dunyokezganqalandar
04-28-2004, 04:34 PM
Uzr Kolobok savolni qoldirib ketibman, lekin manimcha postimdan javob topilsa kerak.
agar qiz so'rasa rostini javob berish kerak, bu ham qiz tomonnning haqqi. Lekin hamma qizlar ham buni so'rab o'tirmaydi, so'rasa javobini beramiz to'gri kelsa to'gri keladi bo'lmasa yo'q, chunki agar yigit "detstvennik" bo'lmasa, qizlar ahmoq emas tushunadi bilganim bilan hammasi turmushga chiqishga qarshilik qilmaydi...
mana o'zim 17 yoshli qiz bilan gaplashganimda etganki, agar qizlar detstvennik bo'lmasa ham lekin ayshhi yigit, oilani taminlay oladigan, yahshi bo'lsa turmushga chiqaverashdi degan...

Royal
04-28-2004, 06:25 PM
если девушки в свою очередь будут требовать,чтоб их будущий жених был детственником?

Mojet bit! i mogut! Eto ihniye prava! a vot kak v jizni eto poluchitsya eto jizn pokajet.

Kolobok
04-29-2004, 02:52 PM
А вот теперь позвольте мне выразить своё скромное мнение по этому поводу..
Почему мужчинам можно,а девушкам нельзя заниматься сексом до свадьбы? Что,узбечки,которые занимались этим до свадьбы теперь должны выходить замуж за иностранца,так как им по-барабану? Или всю жизнь прожить как "проститутки"? Абсурд!
Мне кажется,запрет узбечкам заниматься сексом до свадбы - это,унижение женского достоинства. От того,что она занималась сексом до свадьбы - у мужчины ничего не отвалится. Каждый человек имеет право делать то,что ему по душе. Если все узбечки начнуть заниматься любовью до свадьбы,Вы хотите сказать,что никогда не женитесь? Смешно.
Если человек способен любить,то он так же должен быть способном закрыть глаза на прошлое девушки.
Мысль в слух...
Всем удачи.

Unreg
04-29-2004, 03:39 PM
Мысль в слух...

Ваша мысль больше похожа на самозащиту.

Если по теме, спорим насчет того кому нравиться какой цвет. Мне девственный :)

Девушка не может требовать от мужчины того же. Потому что насколько мне известно, и насколько это принято в кругу моих близких и знакомых, мужчины обычно на 4-6 лет старше девушек. Например девушке 22, мужчине 27. Требовать от мужчины девственность(незнаю можно ли употреблять это слово по отношению к мужчинам), наивно.

Unregistered
04-29-2004, 04:56 PM
I samoe glavnoe kak? Kak dokazat chto mujchina devstvennik?
US

vipshams
04-29-2004, 05:40 PM
I samoe glavnoe kak? Kak dokazat chto mujchina devstvennik?
US

forumga kirganda yuqoriga o'ng tomnga qarasangiz <register your nick> degan joy bor. Shu yerga nickname ingizni va sal pasatroqqa Password ingizni yozsangiz....va keyin bu yerga post qilsangiz juda ma'qul bo'larmidi ..... yanayam o'zingiz bilasiz..

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]I[ A JL JL O D
04-30-2004, 12:37 AM
А вот теперь позвольте мне выразить своё скромное мнение по этому поводу..
Почему мужчинам можно,а девушкам нельзя заниматься сексом до свадьбы? Что,узбечки,которые занимались этим до свадьбы теперь должны выходить замуж за иностранца,так как им по-барабану? Или всю жизнь прожить как "проститутки"? Абсурд!
Мне кажется,запрет узбечкам заниматься сексом до свадбы - это,унижение женского достоинства. От того,что она занималась сексом до свадьбы - у мужчины ничего не отвалится. Каждый человек имеет право делать то,что ему по душе. Если все узбечки начнуть заниматься любовью до свадьбы,Вы хотите сказать,что никогда не женитесь? Смешно.
Если человек способен любить,то он так же должен быть способном закрыть глаза на прошлое девушки.
Мысль в слух...
Всем удачи.

Hehe, sho'tta bitta savol: singlingmi yoki opacheng bormi ?! Misol uchun, bir kuni aptekaga kirseng bitta bola to'rtta beshta "condom" sotib olayotganini ko'rasan deylik. Aytaylik, o'sha bola aptekachiga "bugun "girlfriendimni birinchi marta qilaman, zo'r qiz" deb mahtanvotganini eshitib qolasan deylik. Kechasi esa singling yoki opacheng uchrashuvga chiqib ketayotgnini bilasan, qarasengki, singlingni uchrashuvga olib ketgani haligi aptekadagi bola kelgan deylik ! Ho'sh nima qilasan ?! Yuqoridagi gaplaring bo'yicha, san hech narsa qimisan, singlingga "hayr, enjoy your night !" desande, uyga kirib o'zingni ishing bilan mashg'ul bo'lasan. Haligi bola, sani singlingni butun kecha ISHLATADI, mazza qilib yahshigina ISHLATADI ! Sen hech narsa qilmisang, albatta ahir san 'demokrat' sanu, inson huquqlari, erkinlik kabi narsalarga qattiq ishonasanku, to'g'rimi ?! Ahir haligi bola bilan singlingni ham KAYF qilishga huquqi borku to'g'rimi ?!

ThisIsMee
04-30-2004, 01:24 AM
Any gentleman would claim divorce the next morning. Also, it is self-degrading for a man to have sex with a whore, or anyone else other than his wife. How would you allow yourself to kiss your children, and parents after your mouth touched other women's (other than your wife's) intimate places, which were probably also claimed by other dirty men?

Mirzabek
04-30-2004, 02:30 AM
man shart tepib yuboraman...
erkak boshqa nima bo'lsa ham...
kak jenshini mogut trebovat' ot nas bit' devstvennikom...oni eto ne smogut sdelat'...
KOlobok eto tye otvet...
oni ne smogut eto sdelat'...

omadla

KKllaaa
04-30-2004, 09:16 AM
Hey mujiki qizlar ham tamini bilishi kerak uylanishdan oldin! yo faqar silarmi a?

MegaZ
04-30-2004, 11:12 AM
Any gentleman would claim divorce the next morning.
A gentleman would probably first think and try to analyze the situation instead.

Also, it is self-degrading for a man to have sex with a whore, or anyone else other than his wife. How would you allow yourself to kiss your children, and parents after your mouth touched other women's (other than your wife's) intimate places, which were probably also claimed by other dirty men?
First of all, if a woman is not a virgin, it doesn't mean that she is a whore. In the second sentence, you sound very much like De Niro in "Analyze This" when he is talking about having nasty sex with a lover instead :)

Anyway, back to our topic. Before giving a divorce or making a stupid mistake, try to analyze the situation and find out as much as possible (which you should have done BEFORE getting married). On some occasions, girls simply do not have a virginal hymen! Most horseback riders, for example, do not have it for physical reasons (try to ride that horse all day long with your legs spread apart and not hurt your balls :)). Some girls are born without one, which is quite normal as well. Almost every woman has a different type of virginal hymen - some are very thin, some are thick (I'm sure you've heard stories of your friends that were not able to "do" it for the first time), some have small or large holes in them. So, your wife might be one of those easily. If there is even very little amount of blood that you've noticed after the first sexual intercourse, she is most probably a virgin. Compared to menstrual blood, this blood is different in color and smell (bright red, almost no smell or smell like arterial blood). But should you really care about all this? Did you know that almost any gynaecologist can make a synthetic operation and restore the hymen? The operation is very affordable and some girls do it multiple times in their life (to get married, etc). What's the definition of your "virginity" then??? If a woman wanted to have sex, she could have done it without you knowing it, believe me. She could have done it without losing her hymen too! (or are you so naive to think that girls can only have vaginal sex?)

Before you got married, you should have spent some time with this girl first. Actually, I would do some research before dating (talk to her friends, neighbors, etc) and find out as much as possible. What are people saying about this girl? This should not be your primary criteria, though. Sometimes people are jealous or simply do not like a person and say bad things (especially about girls).

The first question you should ask yourself after you got married - "do I really love her?". The rest is dependent on what your guts tell you.

vassili
04-30-2004, 02:39 PM
A gentleman would probably first think and try to analyze the situation instead.


First of all, if a woman is not a virgin, it doesn't mean that she is a whore. In the second sentence, you sound very much like De Niro in "Analyze This" when he is talking about having nasty sex with a lover instead :)

Anyway, back to our topic. Before giving a divorce or making a stupid mistake, try to analyze the situation and find out as much as possible (which you should have done BEFORE getting married). On some occasions, girls simply do not have a virginal hymen! Most horseback riders, for example, do not have it for physical reasons (try to ride that horse all day long with your legs spread apart and not hurt your balls :)). Some girls are born without one, which is quite normal as well. Almost every woman has a different type of virginal hymen - some are very thin, some are thick (I'm sure you've heard stories of your friends that were not able to "do" it for the first time), some have small or large holes in them. So, your wife might be one of those easily. If there is even very little amount of blood that you've noticed after the first sexual intercourse, she is most probably a virgin. Compared to menstrual blood, this blood is different in color and smell (bright red, almost no smell or smell like arterial blood). But should you really care about all this? Did you know that almost any gynaecologist can make a synthetic operation and restore the hymen? The operation is very affordable and some girls do it multiple times in their life (to get married, etc). What's the definition of your "virginity" then??? If a woman wanted to have sex, she could have done it without you knowing it, believe me. She could have done it without losing her hymen too! (or are you so naive to think that girls can only have vaginal sex?)

Before you got married, you should have spent some time with this girl first. Actually, I would do some research before dating (talk to her friends, neighbors, etc) and find out as much as possible. What are people saying about this girl? This should not be your primary criteria, though. Sometimes people are jealous or simply do not like a person and say bad things (especially about girls).

The first question you should ask yourself after you got married - "do I really love her?". The rest is dependent on what your guts tell you.
Thank you MegaZ for your long and meaningful response, I hope everybody learned at least a lot from your message and singles find it very beneficial in their future life.

With regards,

Maroon
04-30-2004, 04:33 PM
MegaZ molodec!

Good one.

Uchites moi dorogie Uzbeki!

:cool:

Maroon
04-30-2004, 04:38 PM
Any gentleman would claim divorce the next morning. Also, it is self-degrading for a man to have sex with a whore, or anyone else other than his wife. How would you allow yourself to kiss your children, and parents after your mouth touched other women's (other than your wife's) intimate places, which were probably also claimed by other dirty men?


:shock: :shock: :shock:


I really am shock by your words..mda.......

Uncle Sam
04-30-2004, 05:12 PM
Megaz how many uzbek girls have you seen who are riding horse? You sound like a very professional gynaecologist and gave a very scrupulous analysis. I guess you have seen a looot man.

To argue that not every girl has virginity and thus this custom is absolete the same as if to argue in favor of gun possession in USA because of robbers. AFAIK I haven't heard that any family was broken because of girl's not having virginity from her birth.


Before you got married, you should have spent some time with this girl first. Actually, I would do some research before dating (talk to her friends, neighbors, etc) and find out as much as possible. What are people saying about this girl? This should not be your primary criteria, though. Sometimes people are jealous or simply do not like a person and say bad things (especially about girls).
The first question you should ask yourself after you got married - "do I really love her?". The rest is dependent on what your guts tell you.
Doesn't this usually imply her virginity? If neighbors say "Oh you know she has a lot of boyfriends.." doesn't that mean that she most probably will be not virgin. And if the neighbors will say "She is nice I haven't seen her with boys.." Doesn't that usually implies that she is indeed virgin. The virginity is just the fruit of your investigation. Don't you think so?

bedavo
04-30-2004, 06:56 PM
MegaZ molodec!

Good one.

Uchites moi dorogie Uzbeki!

:cool:


Turmushga chiqasizmi??? MEGAZGA?? khe-khe-kheeeee..Agar tavba qildim..u bu narsa bupqolgudek busa...Otga kop minganman..dib quyaqolasiz..Olam guliston..:))
(jokeeee)




Bwahahahahahahahahahaaa

bedavo
04-30-2004, 06:57 PM
man shart tepib yuboraman...
erkak boshqa nima bo'lsa ham...
kak jenshini mogut trebovat' ot nas bit' devstvennikom...oni eto ne smogut sdelat'...
KOlobok eto tye otvet...
oni ne smogut eto sdelat'...

omadla

Yashengg MIrzajon.....Erkeyni ghapi bopti..



Bwahahahahahahahhaaaaaaaa

PainKiller
04-30-2004, 08:52 PM
Kolobok, a kak ti smotrish na to chtobi kak eto skazal Vipshams vsyo zapisat' i podtverdit' rospisyu? eto po tvoyemu vihod iz polojeniya? i v chem delo? zachem ruchka, qogoz i konspekti v takom intimnom aspekte?
:rolleyes:

Maroon
05-01-2004, 04:20 AM
Megaz how many uzbek girls have you seen who are riding horse? You sound like a very professional gynaecologist and gave a very scrupulous analysis. I guess you have seen a looot man.

To argue that not every girl has virginity and thus this custom is absolete the same as if to argue in favor of gun possession in USA because of robbers. AFAIK I haven't heard that any family was broken because of girl's not having virginity from her birth.

Doesn't this usually imply her virginity? If neighbors say "Oh you know she has a lot of boyfriends.." doesn't that mean that she most probably will be not virgin. And if the neighbors will say "She is nice I haven't seen her with boys.." Doesn't that usually implies that she is indeed virgin. The virginity is just the fruit of your investigation. Don't you think so?


How naive could you get? Girls can have tons of boyfriend and still be a virgin, no matter what the 'neigbours' say.
Plus,you do not always get to have great neighbours.

And if the neighbours have not seen the girl with guys does not mean anything.

I VOOBSHE PRICHEM TUT NEIGHBOURS!!!!! :x

Che devki tupie chto-li? Est' takie devki oni po vidu monashki i vse takoe a sami hodyat i chem toka ne zanimautsya.


Stop being bloody naive guys. Surely, you know most of the girls happening around and it is like you are trying to fight against it. I am sorry to dissapoint you, devki uje sami za sebya reshaut. And if they choose to have sex before marriage believe me they'll find a way to get out of the situation when getting married.

I know and met people who have not had a problem with this situation. Their wives were not virgins and they did not mind if after a while. I guess love is stronger than any bloody tradition which obviously is not lasting that long.

I respect everyone's opinion, and surely it is your choice if you want a virgin as your wife, but my advice to you is even after you jaga jaga after the wedding and after all is chiki puki and you see what you wanted to see and got what you wanted to get, ask yourself "was she really a virgin"? :lol: :lol:

Daje neznau, I think to post this topic was pathetic, not even the topic but the poll! It is a sacred thing for many people and you just put up a POLL!? It is a personal thing and it is everyones own personal decision to choose what they'd do. Debating on this won't get you anywhere.


Cheers!

Mirzabek
05-01-2004, 05:06 AM
Shopgirl erkek bo'lganingizda kanchalik muxim bir savol bo'lganini bilar edingiz...
Qizlar tushunmaydi bu temani... qiyin.
a tak menga barbir kanka qiz bo'lishi degan bolalar hammasi yolgon...
kani unaka qiz olsin ko'ramiz urtoglarini orasida nima qilar ekan...
shuning uchun bizalarni qizlar toza haligi ovrupa va amerikadaki Human Rights deganlarga ohshamidi... baraka topsinlar haliyam o'zimizni obruimiz tushmadi.
har kale kechiraslar oyin qiz bilan toza qizni farqi bo'lish kerak ku...?
Togrimi? Bu bizni chet eldagi qizlar bir ikda kitob oqib irgishyabdi... uyga borsinla ko'ramiz...

omadla

Kolobok
05-01-2004, 10:41 AM
I[ A JL JL O D',
Есть у меня сестра,которая на год старше меня. Но пример твой глуп.
Моё мировозрение сильно отличается от моей сестры и во многом не совпадается,аналогично,ей по душе узбекский закон: "бир аёлга бир эркак" - по принципу которого она следует.
Если у Вас есть девушка (детственница),которую Вы любите без ума (если конечно умеете любить) и хотите жениться на ней. И при 90% уверенности,что Вы на ней женитесь,спите с ней до свадьбы (допустим,6 месяцев до свадьбы) и она теряет детственность. Теперь вопрос: есть ли у Вас гарантия,что она не переспала с другим человеком до того,как Вы женились?
МегаЗ,ну допустим девушка уже не детственница (мля,дуратское слово) и пусть даже все соседи,друзья и родные знают об этом. Но ты не знал,но все же ЛЮБИЛ! Являлось бы то,что она не virgin причиной,чтобы не жениться на ней?

bedavo
05-01-2004, 01:15 PM
Shopgirl erkek bo'lganingizda kanchalik muxim bir savol bo'lganini bilar edingiz...
Qizlar tushunmaydi bu temani... qiyin.
a tak menga barbir kanka qiz bo'lishi degan bolalar hammasi yolgon...
kani unaka qiz olsin ko'ramiz urtoglarini orasida nima qilar ekan...
shuning uchun bizalarni qizlar toza haligi ovrupa va amerikadaki Human Rights deganlarga ohshamidi... baraka topsinlar haliyam o'zimizni obruimiz tushmadi.
har kale kechiraslar oyin qiz bilan toza qizni farqi bo'lish kerak ku...?
Togrimi? Bu bizni chet eldagi qizlar bir ikda kitob oqib irgishyabdi... uyga borsinla ko'ramiz...
omadla

Yasheenggggg....Uyga borib....a?? khe-khe-kheeee...Utta US da yoki qatta busayam utirvolib...Anu ba'zi kinolani ko'rib....Ba'zi jurnallarni o'qib..nima dediz..
Rostdan kham qizlaga POFIG...mi deyman....(xammasiga emas manimcha)

Mirzabek etganlaridek...Buzilgan qizni (birov buzgan busa) ogan va u bilan yashagan erkey..Erkeymas....Tamom.



Bwahahahahahahhahaaaaaa

bedavo
05-01-2004, 01:22 PM
Yana bitta gap etiy...Ochigini etganda..CHET ELNI Ko'rib kegan qizlaga Uzbek yigitla uylanishni xohlashmiydi...(Karillameyla yigitla, ochigini etvomman)
Ulaga shubkha bilan qarashadi....
Misol Uchun, UMID yoki ACSELS.....ga uxshagan fondla dan uqib kegan qizla khozir oldi 26-27 ga kirvotti...Shuncha aklli busa kham..nima uchundir..ulani 70-80% i Erga tegmagan khali.....BU manimcha Chet elni kurganligi sababli busa kerey....

KArochi kopchilik qizla Chetga borib O'zini (qizligini,hech bumaganda tarbiyasini) yoqotvotti..va bu Khamma qizlaga ta'sir qivotti...

Tak chto..ULani...Uzi bilib, kuzatib yurgan....(chet elda) BOLALA olmasa....ulani uncha muncha yigitla xohlamiydi....

(MAn khaqiqatni etvomman. Bu mani Surxondaryom yoki Buhoro yu Samarkandda emas.....Toshkenda kham keng tus ogan) TAN OLISH KEREY buni..)


MAnga qarshigapirganni gaplari avtomaticheskiy uziga qaytsin.(PM blocked. E-mail failed)


Bwahahahahhahahhaaaaaaaaa

vassili
05-01-2004, 04:12 PM
Lekin ko'pchiligi o'sha yerlarda turmushga chiqib ketishgan...
Zo'r gapla bo'votti, qoyile hamma, man siladan bunchalik turli tuman fikrla chiqadi deb o'ylamagan edim, lekin mazza qilib o'qivomman...

O'zimga keladigan bo'sa nima deyishniyam bilmiy qoldim hozr, to'g'risi, unisiniyam, bunisiniyam gaplari qanaqadir to'g'riga o'hshab ketayapti, Shopgirl, bu threat yoki poll yamon bo'mayapti lekin, ko'pchilik ko'p narsa o'rganayapti bu yerdan...

bedavo
05-01-2004, 04:14 PM
Zo'r gapla bo'votti, qoyile hamma, man siladan bunchalik turli tuman fikrla chiqadi deb o'ylamagan edim, lekin mazza qilib o'qivomman...

O'zimga keladigan bo'sa nima deyishniyam bilmiy qoldim hozr, to'g'risi, unisiniyam, bunisiniyam gaplari qanaqadir to'g'riga o'hshab ketayapti, Shopgirl, bu threat yoki poll yamon bo'mayapti lekin, ko'pchilik ko'p narsa o'rganayapti bu yerdan...
VASYA TOGA....Gapni chaynameng...Lo'nda gappi gapirin...Siz Chetda o'qib kelgan qizga uylanarmidiz......(MAn uylanmasdim) Agar qoshnimmi qizi bolganda kham...usha qiz....??

Savolga javob berin okam..


Bwahahahahahhahahahhaa

bedavo
05-01-2004, 04:17 PM
SHOPGIRL...do not flood too much..
are you virgin????
(by your ideas....it seems you are so raunchy and you know all the ways of protections of becoming woman) khe-khe-kheeeeee..



Bwahahahahahahahaaa

vassili
05-01-2004, 04:26 PM
VASYA TOGA....Gapni chaynameng...Lo'nda gappi gapirin...Siz Chetda o'qib kelgan qizga uylanarmidiz......(MAn uylanmasdim) Agar qoshnimmi qizi bolganda kham...usha qiz....??

Savolga javob berin okam..


Bwahahahahahhahahahhaa
Manmi, man bir tatib, mazasini bilib keyin qo'yib yuborar edim, :lol: , hazl,
yo lekin manam haqqattan o'ylanib qoldim, boshida chet elni ko'rib kelganlar'ga qiziqish bor edi, endi gapilardan keyin, chyota rostdanam ular chetga chiqib hammma hammma narsalarni ko'rib kelgan bo'masin deb o'ylanib qoldim...

P.S.: lekin bitta yahshi tarafir bor, they might have gotten good experience while abroad :lol:

Maroon
05-01-2004, 05:40 PM
SHOPGIRL...do not flood too much..
are you virgin????
(by your ideas....it seems you are so raunchy and you know all the ways of protections of becoming woman) khe-khe-kheeeeee..



Bwahahahahahahahaaa

Bedavo, kelib kelib sanga gapirardimi?

Chuvak get a life. My advice to you: instead of asking me why do not you get laid?You must be really desperate.
Hahahahahahaha! :lol:

Nu kak tebe skazat je?Ah da, tebya podalshe posilau!!Takie kak ti tuda bistro dorogu nahodyat. :lol:

Cheers!

bedavo
05-01-2004, 06:55 PM
Bedavo, kelib kelib sanga gapirardimi?

Chuvak get a life. My advice to you: instead of asking me why do not you get laid?You must be really desperate.
Hahahahahahaha! :lol:

Nu kak tebe skazat je?Ah da, tebya podalshe posilau!!Takie kak ti tuda bistro dorogu nahodyat. :lol:
Cheers!

Javobni urniga manga aql orgatvossan Demak VIRGIN emasekansan.....BAttar bol.....Extiyot bulish kerey edi...

Cheers (emas)



Bwahahahahahahaahahahahahhhaaaa

Maroon
05-01-2004, 07:56 PM
Bedavo vai dod damini ogin. :lol:

Dunyokezganqalandar
05-01-2004, 08:02 PM
Nega bu bizani qizla, kirmagin degan joyga kirib "flood" qiladi, ko'rgan hassadek yozib qo'yibdiku qizla sla kirmela deb!!!! :bluegrab:

bedavo
05-01-2004, 08:20 PM
Bedavo vai dod damini ogin. :lol:

MAnkuuu damimni olamankuya....Sanga qovurib qoyibdimi bu topicda..Xay mayli kiribsan.....Indamiygina (erkey boganingda hozir boshqa so'z etardim) Kuzatib otirseng olib qolasanmi??

Qizla kirmiyla ..deb qoyibdiku..demoqchiydimkuya...Lekin sani VIRGIN (QIZ) Emasligin etib otildiku yuqorida ..adashmasam.....

Eee barbiram sur bottan...Khozir sokib qosam.....MEGAZ ban bervorishlari mumkin manga......

Basharang turgan Topiclaringni kurgan odam qusvoriy deydi-yu....Tarbiyeng kham shunga yarashade.....NIma kham derdim......bilganini qivurmiysanmi.....borr-e-eeeee uyating bomasa nima kham deya olardim sanga oxshaganlaga....Xotinim boganingdayding.. kechasi bilan Ta'ziringni bergan bolardim......



Kulmadimeee sanga kulish kham xayf ekan...
(shopgirl emas...Sharmandagirl qoyvol..erkeylaga DAM berguncha bottaa...)

SmIlIk
05-01-2004, 08:21 PM
Devushki, vihoditi otsyuda, tut "Mal'chiki" spletnichayut :)

O'zimni neytral deb hisobga olib (statusim sababli, g'ashingizga tegmaydi degan umidddaman) bir narsani aytib o'taman. Qanchalik ayolingizni bokira bo'lishini hohlasangiz va talab qilsangiz o'zingiz ham shunchalik bokir bo'lishingiz shart. Bu qoida asosan o'zini musilmon deb biladigan erkaklarga va ayollarga oid.

Ayollar bizadan talab qilolmaydi deydiganlarga hayf...uyalinglar. Ayollar talab qilolmasa, Hudoyim o'zi sizni bir yog'li qilib qo'yadi. Og'zilarni ko'pirtirib "Ertasi kuni orqasiga tepaman" degandan ko'ra o'zilaga qarab no'gora chalinglar.

"Bir ayolga bir erkak emas" Bir BOKIRA ayolga bir BOKIR erkak bo'ladi, o'rtoqlar.

SmIlIk
05-01-2004, 08:24 PM
Bedavo, forum qatnashchilarining shahsoniyatiga tegmasligingiz haqida ogohlantirilgansiz bir necha marta. Iltimos sizdan shahsiy kommentariyalaringizni o'zingizga saqlab yuring. Birovni "kir kiyim kechaklar"ida nima qilasiz bayram qilib.

Vasilli, sizga esa topicning nomini o'zgartirishni tavsiya etgan bo'lardim.

vassili
05-01-2004, 10:45 PM
Bedavo, forum qatnashchilarining shahsoniyatiga tegmasligingiz haqida ogohlantirilgansiz bir necha marta. Iltimos sizdan shahsiy kommentariyalaringizni o'zingizga saqlab yuring. Birovni "kir kiyim kechaklar"ida nima qilasiz bayram qilib.

Vasilli, sizga esa topicning nomini o'zgartirishni tavsiya etgan bo'lardim.
Voy, nimasi yamon mani chiroylikkina topig'imni nomini, hammaga ma'qul tushvotti shekilli...

Ha mayli o'ylanib ko'raman, lekin nima deb o'zgartirishimni hohlaysiz? o'ziyiz etingchi..

bedavo
05-01-2004, 11:32 PM
Bedavo, forum qatnashchilarining shahsoniyatiga tegmasligingiz haqida ogohlantirilgansiz bir necha marta. Iltimos sizdan shahsiy kommentariyalaringizni o'zingizga saqlab yuring. Birovni "kir kiyim kechaklar"ida nima qilasiz bayram qilib.

Khe-khe-khe..accepted SMILIKJON accepted..I am very sorry...


Vasilli, sizga esa topicning nomini o'zgartirishni tavsiya etgan bo'lardim.

Topic juda zor..Uzukka koz qo'ygandek..yoki bumasam..Yana bir narsaga bir narsa qo'ygandek..yarashib turibdi..(Kirma degandsan kegin kirmasa ekan bu qizla....Yana eee gapirib nima qildim........)


Bwahahahahahhaaaaaaa

bedavo
05-01-2004, 11:34 PM
Voy, nimasi yamon mani chiroylikkina topig'imni nomini, hammaga ma'qul tushvotti shekilli...

Ha mayli o'ylanib ko'raman, lekin nima deb o'zgartirishimni hohlaysiz? o'ziyiz etingchi..

Ouuu Erkey degan Tupurgan tupugini qaytib og'ziga soladimi axmo.???
Bordiyu..SMILIK .."""ISHTON"""" ..deb almashtir..desala..ISHTON deb qoyasizmi mavzuni???? Shuning uchun..oylab gapirin..VASYA TOGA...



Bwahahahahahahahahahhaha

vassili
05-01-2004, 11:41 PM
Ouuu Erkey degan Tupurgan tupugini qaytib og'ziga soladimi axmo.???
Bordiyu..SMILIK .."""ISHTON"""" ..deb almashtir..desala..ISHTON deb qoyasizmi mavzuni???? Shuning uchun..oylab gapirin..VASYA TOGA...
Bwahahahahahahahahahhaha
Endi manam etdim qoydim-de ukam, o'zi o'zgartirishshi ilojisiyam yo'g'u. Indan keyin Smilik'dan sandan kutadigan ishton kabi gaplani kutmiyman har holda, oilali bolali ayol nima bo'sayam, prosto nima deb o'zgartirishimmi hohlashini soravokandim, san bo'sa ataladan chiqqan suyakka o'hsab shu yergayam tiqildin-a, bwahaha'lab...

SmIlIk
05-02-2004, 12:14 AM
Vassili, ja tubdan o'zgartirvorishingiz shart emas...lekin qizlar ham qatnashsinde endi. Ularni chetlatib, qatnashganlarini kamsitib, shahsoniyatiga tegish juda hunuk bir ahvol. Let's say ....Forum ishtirokchilariga umumiy savol....

:)

vassili
05-02-2004, 12:20 AM
Vassili, ja tubdan o'zgartirvorishingiz shart emas...lekin qizlar ham qatnashsinde endi. Ularni chetlatib, qatnashganlarini kamsitib, shahsoniyatiga tegish juda hunuk bir ahvol. Let's say ....Forum ishtirokchilariga umumiy savol....
:)
hahahaha, :lol: , man ataylab qizla kirsin deb shu nomni qo'yganman, va ularni shahsoniyatiga tegishni vashshe niyyat qimaganman, yo man birontasini san no'tog'ri deding, chiq bettan dedimmi? Anu Davosiz shunaqa devotti, topgan gapi hammani yamonlash, ataladan chiqqan suyaksan desam, ataladan bomba chiqadi deydi, bomba san atala yeganindan keyin sani orqangdan chiqadi Davosiz, shu boshiga bitta qo'yib sherbasharasini uhlatib qoysamde... :lol: , baribiram tilli qichitti tushmagur...

Maroon
05-02-2004, 07:22 AM
MAnkuuu damimni olamankuya....Sanga qovurib qoyibdimi bu topicda..Xay mayli kiribsan.....Indamiygina (erkey boganingda hozir boshqa so'z etardim) Kuzatib otirseng olib qolasanmi??

Qizla kirmiyla ..deb qoyibdiku..demoqchiydimkuya...Lekin sani VIRGIN (QIZ) Emasligin etib otildiku yuqorida ..adashmasam.....

Eee barbiram sur bottan...Khozir sokib qosam.....MEGAZ ban bervorishlari mumkin manga......

Basharang turgan Topiclaringni kurgan odam qusvoriy deydi-yu....Tarbiyeng kham shunga yarashade.....NIma kham derdim......bilganini qivurmiysanmi.....borr-e-eeeee uyating bomasa nima kham deya olardim sanga oxshaganlaga....Xotinim boganingdayding.. kechasi bilan Ta'ziringni bergan bolardim......



Kulmadimeee sanga kulish kham xayf ekan...
(shopgirl emas...Sharmandagirl qoyvol..erkeylaga DAM berguncha bottaa...)

bedavo you talk, talk and talk and still does not make any sense. :lol:

How low could ya get man!

fox
05-02-2004, 07:58 AM
what a fundamentalist moron could bring up this topic?
u vas maniya defloracii, gospoda.
chtobi bit' isporchennoy devochkoy, ne obyazatelno teryat' devstvennost'. davayte ne zabivat' o netradicionnih sposobah sovokupleniya.
a raschitivat' na mneniya sosedey - eto lame. otsutstviye reshitelnosti i samouverennosti. takiye mujchini stroyat sem'yu na mifah - sosedi mogut bit' dobrimi i zlimi v otnoshenii devushki.

bedavo
prejde chem pisat', nado dumat' golovoy, a ne drugim mestom. raz obsujdayete zadannuyu temu, to staraytes' ne perehodit' na lichnosti.

PainKiller
05-02-2004, 09:22 PM
[QUOTE= and Is that girl on your avatar U? that picture is sooo***e[/QUOTE]
hmmmm. how do u think, and what does that picture is sooo***e means? what did u mean?
rostini etsam anu yulduzchala bilan hint qigan sozizzi manosini vashe chunmadim. nIMa demoqchisiz pochchcha?

Adajon
05-03-2004, 12:32 AM
Вы что.. /piii, piii, piii/
ТТ
************
dude, c'mon! eto je flame :)

MegaZ
05-03-2004, 10:38 AM
Megaz how many uzbek girls have you seen who are riding horse?
Not many, but there are some, especially in shepherd families.

You sound like a very professional gynaecologist and gave a very scrupulous analysis. I guess you have seen a looot man.
Thanks for the compliment :) I'm definitely not a gynaecologist, but have some good friends who are. Plus, it never hurts to know more about women.

To argue that not every girl has virginity and thus this custom is absolete the same as if to argue in favor of gun possession in USA because of robbers.
I never said a word about custom being obsolete. I just think that basing future relationship with a woman solely on her virginity is not always the best solution.

AFAIK I haven't heard that any family was broken because of girl's not having virginity from her birth.
My neighbor in Margilan ended up hanging herself, because she was kicked out after the first night by her husband and her parents did not want to accept her back home. And guess what - she was a virgin. And I bet you'll find a lot more cases like this if you dig further.

Doesn't this usually imply her virginity? If neighbors say "Oh you know she has a lot of boyfriends.." doesn't that mean that she most probably will be not virgin.
It depends. I once really liked a girl and took her home after school, because it was a long and dangerous way (going through a couple of mahallas). Her neighbors called her "whore" afterwards. She did not want to see me again - ever! And neighbors are the ones who sometimes will exaggerate stuff. That's why I said earlier - it should not be your primary criteria!

And if the neighbors will say "She is nice I haven't seen her with boys.." Doesn't that usually implies that she is indeed virgin. The virginity is just the fruit of your investigation. Don't you think so?
Do you really think girls like to be seen by other people when they spend their time with guys? Oh, come on! If a girl is not seen with boys, it still does NOT mean that she is a virgin. Again, your research should never be based solely on one factor. Try to talk to the girl's classmates, roommates, friends, etc.

MegaZ
05-03-2004, 11:16 AM
SHOPGIRL...do not flood too much..
are you virgin????
(by your ideas....it seems you are so raunchy and you know all the ways of protections of becoming woman) khe-khe-kheeeeee..

Javobni urniga manga aql orgatvossan Demak VIRGIN emasekansan.....BAttar bol.....Extiyot bulish kerey edi...
You got yourself a ban for two weeks buddy!

Unregistered
05-03-2004, 01:15 PM
should have done it earlier..

TT from T :P

Mirzabek
05-04-2004, 06:22 AM
SmIlIk Wrote
O'zimni neytral deb hisobga olib

Mdaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Men bigan smilik bunaka emas edi.
a tak bitta hint qiz yuribdi bu yerda...jaa yoqtirib qoldi de.... :lool:

ee qizlar nega tushunmaysalar... axir bizalar erkak siz esa ayol kishi...
endi oylab koring.... man kandoq qizlar bilan yursam shuncha Smilik ham bolalar bilan yursa... nima deysla...? yoki umuman boshqa qiz misol keltirvomman...
Kegin u qizni birov yaxshi odam desin man kulogimi keisb berayin...
lekin erkakka hech kim unaka demidi...

yana bitta narsa eshitganman... Qizlar, babniklarni yaxshi ko'rishadi....
ozgina obyektivniy oylanglar... nabucha human rights deb yapishvosslar...
shu gaplarni 4 yil oldin aytselar man vashe qoyil qolar edim hozir esa chet elda...
ee koyingla bu gapni.... man golosovat qilgandek...
agar mani hotinim virgin bolmasa shart o'sha kecha tepib yuboraman... 4 tarafin qiblaaa.....

omadla

SmIlIk
05-04-2004, 02:53 PM
Mirzabek... yursa...yursaaa... yuromisiz. Hamma gap ham shunda. Yurolmaysiz. Qando muslimon bo'ldiz unda siz yurovurseyiz :) Yurovurseyiz yahshi qiz ham peshonangizga yurmabdi unda

G'aribiy
05-04-2004, 02:56 PM
Mirzabek,
Eshitdizmi Mirzabek Holmedov namozhon bo'lganmish, boshqa qiziqchilik qilmas ekan, Jumada va'z o'qir ekan. :D

Mirzabek
05-05-2004, 01:05 AM
SmIlIk man bu ishlarni tashladim nomozhon bo'ldim...
Bir Olloh ta'sirimi berib qoydi shu bilan tinch bo'lib qoldim...
Odam qilaveradi lekin uni cazosi ham bor eng yaxshisi bo'lmasligi...
Men demokratmatman lekin boshka balo kelmasi bo'ldi...
a tak men uje netralniman....

omadla

vipshams
05-05-2004, 09:33 PM
You got yourself a ban for two weeks buddy!

Nasim aka, bukrini go'r to'g'rilaydi.deganlari rost ekan...bir qarasam bedavo edilar bir qarasam shoxlari chiqib <<bedavo`>> bo'lib qolibdilar. Iltimos nima bolsa ham IP ga BAN bermang..

O'rmonga o't ketib, Ho'l-u quruq yonib ketmasin.


hurmat bilan vipshams

Mirzabek
05-06-2004, 04:31 AM
:lool::lool::lool::lool::lool::lool::lool:

Slimshady
05-08-2004, 09:20 AM
nima diyapsizlar ? :? :rolleyes:

bedavo`
05-08-2004, 01:36 PM
nima diyapsizlar ? :? :rolleyes:
Bodring ekvommiza dyishvotti..

Mirzabek
05-10-2004, 12:15 AM
yaqinda pomidor qizarib chiqadi....:lool:

omadla

Unregistered
05-13-2004, 05:50 AM
Vsem Privet

Atos
05-13-2004, 07:40 AM
Privet Vsem!

To be as short as possible, I am gonna say that, I support MegaZ's arguments conserning this issue!! Ot sebya dobavlyu tolko odin case. Po skolky most of the participants like facts ;) and especially from the real life!
Tak vot, Ya znayu odin slychai kogda paren faced following situation. Basically there was no blood within the first so called "brachnaya noch". So what this guy did, was rather simple ............. ;) He made small cut on himself, so here it is - blood. V resultate, without knowing that .... everyone ....Parents, whoever (ecpecially vsyakie opyshki, sosedi i bla bla) were happy ;)
There is very simple explanation for his act. He Loved Her!!!! That guy is uzbek! I vse proisxodilo v Uzb! I think that guy knew, that girl was non-virgin. But at the end of the day, it is his life. Isxodya iz togo chto on lyubil ee I tend to beleive, that maybe they had relationships (ya dymayu Vi ponyali kakie) with his girl before marriage. No eto ne mne sydit'!!!
I potom guys com'n come clear! Ya ne dymayu chto Vi pomchites and gonna tell everyone about any problem with respect this issue to all of your friends, right?

So pple, Peace!


Atos.

Mirzabek
05-13-2004, 07:49 AM
nu smotri ladno on polyubil yeyo, ob etoy situatsii nikto ne uznal...
kak ti rasskazivayesh nam...ya shoto ne ponyal...

i posle etogo parnyu ili devushke bilo li uajsno nekrasivo...osobenno devushke...
Atos bilib gapir hehc kim bilmadi deb...
O'zbelarda bir maqol bor...
"Qingir ish 40 yildan kegin ham bilinadi"

oylab gapir...mayli hech kim bilmasin lekin forumdegilar hammasi bilsin :rofl:

man tinchidim...
omadla

vassili
05-13-2004, 08:04 AM
nu smotri ladno on polyubil yeyo, ob etoy situatsii nikto ne uznal...
kak ti rasskazivayesh nam...ya shoto ne ponyal...

i posle etogo parnyu ili devushke bilo li uajsno nekrasivo...osobenno devushke...
Atos bilib gapir hehc kim bilmadi deb...
O'zbelarda bir maqol bor...
"Qingir ish 40 yildan kegin ham bilinadi"

oylab gapir...mayli hech kim bilmasin lekin forumdegilar hammasi bilsin :rofl:

man tinchidim...
omadla
San tinchimadin Mirzabey :lol: , ha uyam ahir o'zini fikrini tushuntirvotti, birovni fikrini, dunyoqarashini va yokim englizchalab etganda personality'sini hurmat qilishni yo hech bo'masa yoqmasa gar tinchkina ...'ini qisiib o'tirishni o'rganish kere, bo'ldi siladan iltimos bu threat'da boshqalani fikri'ni ma'qullab va yoki yamonlab yozishdan ko'ra o'ziylani shaxsiy fikriylani bildirsayla... Oldindan tashakkurlar.

vassili
05-13-2004, 08:04 AM
Privet Vsem!

To be as short as possible, I am gonna say that, I support MegaZ's arguments conserning this issue!! Ot sebya dobavlyu tolko odin case. Po skolky most of the participants like facts ;) and especially from the real life!
Tak vot, Ya znayu odin slychai kogda paren faced following situation. Basically there was no blood within the first so called "brachnaya noch". So what this guy did, was rather simple ............. ;) He made small cut on himself, so here it is - blood. V resultate, without knowing that .... everyone ....Parents, whoever (ecpecially vsyakie opyshki, sosedi i bla bla) were happy ;)
There is very simple explanation for his act. He Loved Her!!!! That guy is uzbek! I vse proisxodilo v Uzb! I think that guy knew, that girl was non-virgin. But at the end of the day, it is his life. Isxodya iz togo chto on lyubil ee I tend to beleive, that maybe they had relationships (ya dymayu Vi ponyali kakie) with his girl before marriage. No eto ne mne sydit'!!!
I potom guys com'n come clear! Ya ne dymayu chto Vi pomchites and gonna tell everyone about any problem with respect this issue to all of your friends, right?

So pple, Peace!

Atos.
We appreciate it for your post ;)

Atos
05-13-2004, 08:16 AM
Hi Mirzabek!

Bir xil paytlarda oilanib qolaman, rostnam xam Mirza tirikchiligini chetga qoib shy erga kelib qoldimi yoki... ;) (lekin airim bir forum topiklari va forum qatnashchilar gaplari jydaym askiyalarga oxshab ketadi)

Po povody bilib qoigin i bla bla bla. Kogda ya govoril everyone, posmotri I pointed parents, sosedi i others! Ok any way I am not gonna continue this useless dispute!

Prosto I gave it to pple in order to show, how someone could go beyond some beleives!

To be honest forum did change! It is not forum that used to be 4-5 yeras ago!

Ok pple, Peace!

P.S Mirzabek, Please davai bez etix pointing stuff tipa "oilab gapir i bla bla", keep them pri sebe! try to be diplomatic and flexible!! nothing personal ok just advice! Prigoditsya v bydyshem! ;)

Atos

WASP
05-13-2004, 08:19 AM
Privet Vsem!

To be as short as possible, I am gonna say that, I support MegaZ's arguments conserning this issue!! Ot sebya dobavlyu tolko odin case. Po skolky most of the participants like facts ;) and especially from the real life!
Tak vot, Ya znayu odin slychai kogda paren faced following situation. Basically there was no blood within the first so called "brachnaya noch". So what this guy did, was rather simple ............. ;) He made small cut on himself, so here it is - blood. V resultate, without knowing that .... everyone ....Parents, whoever (ecpecially vsyakie opyshki, sosedi i bla bla) were happy ;)
There is very simple explanation for his act. He Loved Her!!!! That guy is uzbek! I vse proisxodilo v Uzb! I think that guy knew, that girl was non-virgin. But at the end of the day, it is his life. Isxodya iz togo chto on lyubil ee I tend to beleive, that maybe they had relationships (ya dymayu Vi ponyali kakie) with his girl before marriage. No eto ne mne sydit'!!!
I potom guys com'n come clear! Ya ne dymayu chto Vi pomchites and gonna tell everyone about any problem with respect this issue to all of your friends, right?

So pple, Peace!


Atos.

you talking about me? :P :D

Mirzabek
05-13-2004, 09:38 AM
Atos men astoydil qilib seni postingni o'qidim...
shu o'zbecha yo'zsang yaxshi bolar edi...a tak menga barbir qaysi tilda yozganing, no degan narsa bor... a tak yaxshi ko'rib qolgan bo'lsa nima qilamiz...?
no bar bir nomus degan narsa bor...boshimizga kelmasin,lekin Olloh o'zi asrasin...
TT seni tog'rinda gap ketvotti...sen ham o'zing haqqinda gullab yuraver...
Atos senda yaxhsi bir diplomat chiqadi...ofaring...

a tak men qarshiman...
omadla

travelingpapi
05-13-2004, 10:13 AM
Shuncha gap so'zdan so'ng bitta aqlli gap o'qidim - (smilik: ...bir bokira qizga bir bokira yigit..) to'ppa to'g'ri, talab qo'ydingmi, shu talabga o'zing ham javob ber.
Erkakman deb og'aynilar bilan "bojalik" qilib keyin uylanganda qizdan bokiralikni talab qilish diniy nuqtai nazardan ham to'g'rimasdirov? Nima dedinglar?
Afsuski, bokiralik erkak zoti ichida juda kam, qizlarimiz ichida ham kamayib borayapti.

Mirzabek
05-13-2004, 10:39 AM
o'shan uchun ular ayol deiladi...

omadla

Martingale
04-15-2006, 10:28 AM
Mazlum ochgan topik uzi ancha discuss bugan ekanu. who onlinedan muralasam 1 2 ta userlar shu threadni qarashvotgan ekan...etmimiz kimligini lekin:D

p.s. iltimos qizlar kirib qolselar 1nchi optionga ovoz bermaylar.;)

Professor-utkir
04-15-2006, 11:31 AM
Bir savol keb qoldi, faraz qilin toydan keyin yangi - chiroyli hotiniyizni Virgin emasligini bilib qoldiyiz, Nima qigan bolar ediz? (manga tegishli yamon gapla gapirganni hotini non-virgin bo'lsin !!! :lol: )

Avvalom bor quyidagi "yangi -... hotiniyizni" degan jumla bizni juda kulgimizni qistayotganini bildirmoqchimiz.

Yangi xotin emas-u, lekin yangi kelinchak degan jumla ishlatilsa maqsadga muvofiq bo'larmidi, bu birinchidan.

Ikkinchidan, hozir O'zbekistonda har bir yangi turmush qurayotgan kelin-kuyovlar meditsina ko'rigidan o'tishlari ixtiyoriy-majburiy etib belgilangan. Medkorikdan o'tganidan so'ng ularga yoki oila a'zolariga to'yga taraddud ko'ra boshlashlariga ruxsat berilmoqda.

Uchinchidan, hammamizning niyatimiz holis bo'lsin, yani o'zimiz (ko'nglimiz) ham bokira bo'lsakkina, Olloh ham bizga anashunday juft halol ato etadi.

Kimki ne tilasa, yetsin murodga deb, baxt tilab qolamiz

alisher.mnx
04-15-2006, 11:36 AM
ishimi qilib qilib keyin orqasiga tepvorardim

W.I.Z.A.R.D
04-15-2006, 11:47 AM
Avvalom bor quyidagi "yangi -... hotiniyizni" degan jumla bizni juda kulgimizni qistayotganini bildirmoqchimiz.

Yangi xotin emas-u, lekin yangi kelinchak degan jumla ishlatilsa maqsadga muvofiq bo'larmidi, bu birinchidan.

Ikkinchidan, hozir O'zbekistonda har bir yangi turmush qurayotgan kelin-kuyovlar meditsina ko'rigidan o'tishlari ixtiyoriy-majburiy etib belgilangan. Medkorikdan o'tganidan so'ng ularga yoki oila a'zolariga to'yga taraddud ko'ra boshlashlariga ruxsat berilmoqda.

Uchinchidan, hammamizning niyatimiz holis bo'lsin, yani o'zimiz (ko'nglimiz) ham bokira bo'lsakkina, Olloh ham bizga anashunday juft halol ato etadi.

Kimki ne tilasa, yetsin murodga deb, baxt tilab qolamiz



Yangi hotiningiz degan gap mani ham ja gulgimni qistab yubordi

W.I.Z.A.R.D
04-15-2006, 11:55 AM
Bir savol keb qoldi, faraz qilin toydan keyin yangi - chiroyli hotiniyizni Virgin emasligini bilib qoldiyiz, Nima qigan bolar ediz? (manga tegishli yamon gapla gapirganni hotini non-virgin bo'lsin !!! :lol: )

dahshat hudo kursatmasin

lekin hotiningizni Virgin emasligini bilib qolsangiz yahshisi undan voz kechish darkor chunki undan vafodor yor chikmasligi anik

Qorovul
04-15-2006, 12:00 PM
ishimi qilib qilib keyin orqasiga tepvorardim


SHU GAPINGIZNI AMMAM O'QIGANLARIDA EDI, "O'L ERKAK BO'LMAY. SADQAI ERKAK KET SAN" DEGAN BO'LARDILA


Thread sasib ketganu, nima qilardila yana ochib kovlashtirib.
Professorman deb endi titikilab yurish kerakmi hammayoqni ;) :) :)


;)

Amiri Turkiston
04-15-2006, 01:10 PM
hozir bunaqa sodda qizlar pochti qolmagan

agar qiz "qiz-bola" bulmasa, u holda u tiktirish yo'llarini ham biladigan buladi

tiktirvolib, ustidan teri yotqizdirib olib maza qilib yuradi...bechora bolani tushirib

opitniy erkaklar ham sezmaydigan usullari chiqib ketgan hozir...
kimga mazza...qizlarga mazza

mayli oramizdan insoflilar va vijdonlilar soni kamaymasa buldi....

Bekzod_usa
04-15-2006, 01:59 PM
ishimi qilib qilib keyin orqasiga tepvorardim


Bo'mabdi bu gap lekin

Bitta joyiga tushunmadim ...


ISHIMI qilib .... debsiz...
Uzizi ishizi qilishizni u yangi kelinchakka nima aloqasi bor? :lol:

Bekzod_usa
04-15-2006, 02:25 PM
Bir savol keb qoldi, faraz qilin toydan keyin yangi - chiroyli hotiniyizni Virgin emasligini bilib qoldiyiz, Nima qigan bolar ediz? (manga tegishli yamon gapla gapirganni hotini non-virgin bo'lsin !!! :lol: )


Assalomu alaykum vassili,

Bu topikni sal shoshib turganda ochib qo'yibsizda
brinchidan,

Pollga qarasam, manga mos javob yo'q ekan.
Javoblar ichida mana bunisi ham bo'lishi kerak:

Vaziyatni tekshirib chiqib, keyin baho bergan bo'lardim.

Keyin yana bir narsa,

qizlarni batga kirishini nimasi yomon/
Nima birovga ko'rsatmay orqasidan gapirmoqchimisiz ?
Olib chiqqan mavzuiz yahshi, intelektual mavzu, lekin hech ham bu yerda qizlar uyalib qoladigan joyi yo'q. "qizlar kirmela" deyishga hojat yo'q.

Hamma aytganidek, tekshirib, uziz bilgan qizga uylanish kerak birinchidan ...
shunda ham, bokira emasligini bilib qolganimda,

men birinchi bo'lib "orqasiga tepish" o'rniga, haqiqatni surushtirardim aslida nima bo'lgan, ba'zilar aytyapti har hil holatlarda qizlarda uzidan-uzi shu narsa bulib qolishi mumkin u-bu deb ( riding horses )

Undan tashqari, surishtirganizda u qiz oldin
WHORE biulmagan bulsa demak kimdir uni majburan zurlagan bulib chiqadi to'g'rimi?
Bunga u qizni aybi yukqu... ( especially when girls themselves don't know about that )
hamma ayb kimdirda...usha zurlagan paskash inson, va uz qizini pokiza saqololmagan disfunctional ota-onada !!!
Erkak, u qizni tuydan oldin tekshirmay, olib quyib, keyin uni aybisiz shu narsa sodir bulganidan xabar topganizdan keyin orqasiga tepish NOMARDni ishiku !!!
Bunaqa narsaga uchramaslikni yo'llari ko'p...
Tekshiring, qizni yahshi bilib oling, u qizni uzi bilan oldin gaplashing...agar shunda ham uz aybisiz shunaqa narsa sodir bulganini aytmasa, bilib qolsangiz tuydankeyin ha marhamat keyin javobini beraverasiz sizdan haqiqatni yashirgani uchun...oldindan aytsa, sizga yahshi tuy bulmagan qaror chiqarishizga vaqt buladi u yog'i sizga bog'liq !

Martingale
04-15-2006, 02:27 PM
Thread sasib ketganu, nima qilardila yana ochib kovlashtirib.
Professorman deb endi titikilab yurish kerakmi hammayoqni ;) :) :)
;)

Qorovul, thread sasib ketgan busa unga yana post qilishni nima keragi bor.

a tak, vassili aytmoqchi man haqimda yomon gap aytganlarni hotini non-virgin busin.:lol:

kracab4ik
04-15-2006, 02:31 PM
hozir bunaqa sodda qizlar pochti qolmagan

agar qiz "qiz-bola" bulmasa, u holda u tiktirish yo'llarini ham biladigan buladi

tiktirvolib, ustidan teri yotqizdirib olib maza qilib yuradi...bechora bolani tushirib

opitniy erkaklar ham sezmaydigan usullari chiqib ketgan hozir...
kimga mazza...qizlarga mazza

mayli oramizdan insoflilar va vijdonlilar soni kamaymasa buldi....


agar bunaqa bo'ladigan bo'sa faqatgina bolaga achinaman:x :x :x

Frida
04-15-2006, 02:53 PM
Tolstoyning Anna Karininasida Levin Katiga shunday deydi, (taxminan, soz'ma so'z emas albatta, esimda qolgani, o'qiganimga bir necha asr bo'lgan :) )
- Venoven ya v tom chto neveryuyushiy i vtom chto ne devstvennik deydi. Shunda Katining fikri --- "ona yemu prostila perviy greh, tak kak verila chto Levin bil duhovnim chelovekom, i chto kogda nebud' on istinno poverit v boga, a vtoroy gluboko razocheroval i oskorbil eyo" deydi. Mana shunaqa, okahonlar, qizlarni qizligini ha deb pesh qilavermasdan, o'zingiz haqingizda ham bir o'ylab ko'ringlar. Agar shunchalik pokizasi kerak bo'lsa siz ham unga mos bo'linglar. Agar unday bo'lmasa, qizdan ham juda ko'p narsani kutmanglar.

Martingale
04-15-2006, 03:45 PM
Tolstoyning Anna Karininasida Levin Katiga shunday deydi, (taxminan, soz'ma so'z emas albatta, esimda qolgani, o'qiganimga bir necha asr bo'lgan :) )
- Venoven ya v tom chto neveryuyushiy i vtom chto ne devstvennik deydi. Shunda Katining fikri --- "ona yemu prostila perviy greh, tak kak verila chto Levin bil duhovnim chelovekom, i chto kogda nebud' on istinno poverit v boga, a vtoroy gluboko razocheroval i oskorbil eyo" deydi. Mana shunaqa, okahonlar, qizlarni qizligini ha deb pesh qilavermasdan, o'zingiz haqingizda ham bir o'ylab ko'ringlar. Agar shunchalik pokizasi kerak bo'lsa siz ham unga mos bo'linglar. Agar unday bo'lmasa, qizdan ham juda ko'p narsani kutmanglar.

yahshi argument, lekin Kareninani davri bilan rossiyadagi hozirgi davrni solishtirib kursez, gap nimadaligini tushunardiz. 15 asrda english poet lar sevgi haqida sher yoza olishmagan, hozirchi...

qaysi manoda mos busin? bollar ham pokiza bulishsinmi?:)

p.s. avatarizni uzgartiribsizmi? Salma hayekka gap yuq lekin. :P

kingdom
04-15-2006, 03:50 PM
bitta narsaga hayron qolamanda!:rolleyes: nima qizning virgin bumasligiga uning oldin sex bilan shugullangan bulishi shartmi?juda kup sababalar bilan qiz bola bilib-bilmay uzi sababchi bulib qoladi!shuning uchun tuydan oldin agar sevgan qizingiz busa bu haqida sizga aytsa!kechirish mumkin!menimcha uzi yigitlarning 90%ham virgin emas!:lol: :lol:

Frida
04-15-2006, 03:57 PM
yahshi argument, lekin Kareninani davri bilan rossiyadagi hozirgi davrni solishtirib kursez, gap nimadaligini tushunardiz. 15 asrda english poet lar sevgi haqida sher yoza olishmagan, hozirchi...

qaysi manoda mos busin? bollar ham pokiza bulishsinmi?:)

p.s. avatarizni uzgartiribsizmi? Salma hayekka gap yuq lekin. :P

He,he prosto etuvdimde, bilaman, bolladan to'ygacha devstvinnik bo'lishni kutish - qushdan sut kutish bilan barobar. :) Mani bitta o'rtog'im etardi, ishqilib mani erim devstvinnik bo'lmasin deb. Yeshe v brachnuyu noch' budet sidet' kak istukan, menya navernoye toje zamuchayet, iz dvux hotyabi odin doljen bit' opitnim der edi :D, balki to'g'ridir kim bilsin. O'zbekichilkda bu kimligini bilamiz :twisted: Sizning yangi avataringiz haqida yozib qoldiruvdim manam, manimcha Konsul to'grisidagi postimda, siz ham almashtirib tashabsiz. Bu yerda Salma Hayek emas, mana avatarimga gap yo'q deng, tasaddiq :P

Martingale
04-15-2006, 04:15 PM
He,he prosto etuvdimde, bilaman, bolladan to'ygacha devstvinnik bo'lishni kutish - qushdan sut kutish bilan barobar. :) Mani bitta o'rtog'im etardi, ishqilib mani erim devstvinnik bo'lmasin deb. Yeshe v brachnuyu noch' budet sidet' kak istukan, menya navernoye toje zamuchayet, iz dvux hotyabi odin doljen bit' opitnim der edi :D, balki to'g'ridir kim bilsin. O'zbekichilkda bu kimligini bilamiz :twisted: Sizning yangi avataringiz haqida yozib qoldiruvdim manam, manimcha Konsul to'grisidagi postimda, siz ham almashtirib tashabsiz. Bu yerda Salma Hayek emas, mana avatarimga gap yo'q deng, tasaddiq :P

:D dugonez ancha plan ahead qiladiganladan ekanu.:o
a tak hamma bollar ham nopokiza( bwah...is there such a word:rolleyes: ) emas. ;) Lekin uzbekchilikda bu narsa muammo emas.:D

Salma hayekka ham mas, avtarizgayammas, uzizga gap yuq!
Buladimi!?:P

lost
04-15-2006, 04:18 PM
Laziz, nice flirt ;)

keep goin'

Martingale
04-15-2006, 04:24 PM
Laziz, nice flirt ;)

keep goin'

:D lost qarasam siz jim utiribsiz, vaziyatdan foydalanay dedimda.

p.s. a tak malum bir forum uzerlarni postini uqishni yahshi koraman. ularni orasida siz ham borsiz, lekin siz buni flirt deb tushunmang!:twisted:

lost
04-15-2006, 04:34 PM
On: pollda "depends on situation" degani yo'q ekan, shu uchun ovoz bermadim...

Off 1: Laziz aka bizam sizzi hurmat qiladiganlardan ;) Frida
Off 2: Frida, mana bu pollda (http://www.forum.uz/showthread.php?t=29291)ovoz bermabsiz ...

PS: off ni yozish uchun on qoldirdim :)

Frida
04-15-2006, 04:43 PM
Men ham ovoz bermadim. Anu oxirgisi to'g'ri kelsa ham, chunki "kirmela" deb qo'yibtilade, okamiz. Shunga. :) Ha u pollda Lost - sal Misterious bo'lay dedimda. A tak havotirlanmang, biz ham hip-hop avlodimiz :). Anu reklamadan qimoqchidim, lekin o'xshamadi.

Frida
04-15-2006, 05:16 PM
Frida,
man hip-hop avlodidan bo'lsamam hozir mana bu qo'shiqni (http://mp3uz.com/mp3/s/sherali/sherali_karvon.mp3)eshitib turimman :)

offtopni o'chiraman hozir

PS: Laziz aka, sorry ;)

:D:lol::lol::lol: Ha bo'lib turadi, man ham gohi-gohida eshitib turaman, ja bunaqa ancientlarnimasku, lekin bo'lib turadi. Hmm, bitta on top qo'shib qo'yish kerak endi.
Hozir juda katta gaplar qilasizlar, keyin qarasangiz, to'yga ming ming pul ketgan, sizning, ota onangizning yuzi. Men umrimda ko'rmaganman shunaqa bo'lganlarni, ertasi kuni tepib yuborganlarni. Ja bo'lmasa xayitgacha yashashadi bunaqala. Umuman olganda o'sha prostinyani olib chiqadigan urfni yo'q qilish kerak, chunki bu narsa er-xotin orasida bo'lishi kerak. Ha mana ko'rdi ham deylik, qiz emas, keyin xohlamasa bir-ikki oydan keyin ajrab ketsin, xohlasa yashayversin. Uni bayroqdek qilib hammaga ko'rsatib, nima endi u "mana qarela bopladim" deganimi? Undan tashqari yigit qizni qiz emas ekan desa, hozirgi qizlar ham anoyi emas: o'zi impotent ekan, yoki gay ekan devoradi bo'ldi.

lost
04-15-2006, 05:25 PM
:D:lol::lol::lol: Ha bo'lib turadi, man ham gohi-gohida eshitib turaman, ja bunaqa ancientlarnimasku, lekin bo'lib turadi. Hmm, bitta on top qo'shib qo'yish kerak endi.
Hozir juda katta gaplar qilasizlar, keyin qarasangiz, to'yga ming ming pul ketgan, sizning, ota onangizning yuzi. Men umrimda ko'rmaganman shunaqa bo'lganlarni, ertasi kuni tepib yuborganlarni. Ja bo'lmasa xayitgacha yashashadi bunaqala. Umuman olganda o'sha prostinyani olib chiqadigan urfni yo'q qilish kerak, chunki bu narsa er-xotin orasida bo'lishi kerak. Ha mana ko'rdi ham deylik, qiz emas, keyin xohlamasa bir-ikki oydan keyin ajrab ketsin, xohlasa yashayversin. Uni bayroqdek qilib hammaga ko'rsatib, nima endi u "mana qarela bopladim" deganimi? Undan tashqari yigit qizni qiz emas ekan desa, hozirgi qizlar ham anoyi emas: o'zi impotent ekan, yoki gay ekan devoradi bo'ldi.
bir nima deyishgayam hayron odam... birta birtadan quote qilishga vaqt yo'q :)

Agar, xudo ko'rsatmasin shundoq bo'lib qolsa, qiz aybdor bo'lsa
mana bu erda "bug'ib o'ldiraman" (http://www.forum.uz/showthread.php?p=416825#post416825) deb qo'ygandim allaqachon :)

Yigitlik g'ururi degan gaplar bor (!)

Oxirgi gapizga lekin qoil...

Frida
04-15-2006, 05:42 PM
bir nima deyishgayam hayron odam... birta birtadan quote qilishga vaqt yo'q :)

Agar, xudo ko'rsatmasin shundoq bo'lib qolsa, qiz aybdor bo'lsa
mana bu erda "bug'ib o'ldiraman" (http://www.forum.uz/showthread.php?p=416825#post416825) deb qo'ygandim allaqachon :)

Yigitlik g'ururi degan gaplar bor (!)

Oxirgi gapizga lekin qoil...
Man ham tushunaman, prosto qiyin bo'ladi demoqchimande. Oson ish emas. Aytgancha, yigitlarga savol, masalan xudo ko'rsatmasin shunaqa bo'lib qoldi deylik, keyin mayli ket dedila, ketdi uyiga, keyin qo'ni qo'shni, oshna og'ayni orasida qanaqa bo'ladi? Tipa -- mard yigitmi -- yoki lox ogan qizi juvon ekanmi?
Vsyo, molchu, molchu, chiqib ketdim uje bu threaddan :D

MasxaraboZ
04-15-2006, 08:15 PM
bitta narsaga hayron qolamanda!:rolleyes: nima qizning virgin bumasligiga uning oldin sex bilan shugullangan bulishi shartmi?juda kup sababalar bilan qiz bola bilib-bilmay uzi sababchi bulib qoladi!shuning uchun tuydan oldin agar sevgan qizingiz busa bu haqida sizga aytsa!kechirish mumkin!menimcha uzi yigitlarning 90%ham virgin emas!:lol: :lol:

kingdom sizni fikrizga 50/50 qushilaman :lool:
yigitlarni 90% deb xato qilayabsiz menimcha :lool: kuproqmasmikin :lool: *hazil

maktabni bitirsa uylanitirib quyadiganlar bor,yoki 9 sinfdan uylantirib quyadiganlar bor uglini,keyin kelin kuyovlar maktabga birga borishyabdi :lool:

Lost bo'gib o'ldirish oson ish ekanda :lool: Manyak bup ketingge :lool:
Toydan oldin bila olmagan busangiz alamingizni qizdan olasizmi???

Maslahat:Sizga maslahatim to'ydan oldin hech kim bildirmay to'y qilvoring shunda ketiga tepib haydavorsangizam birov sizga bir narsa deya olmaydi...qiz busa uylanib quyaverasiz :lool:

Amiri Turkiston
04-15-2006, 10:05 PM
Man ham tushunaman, prosto qiyin bo'ladi demoqchimande. Oson ish emas. Aytgancha, yigitlarga savol, masalan xudo ko'rsatmasin shunaqa bo'lib qoldi deylik, keyin mayli ket dedila, ketdi uyiga, keyin qo'ni qo'shni, oshna og'ayni orasida qanaqa bo'ladi? Tipa -- mard yigitmi -- yoki lox ogan qizi juvon ekanmi?
Vsyo, molchu, molchu, chiqib ketdim uje bu threaddan :D

ko'proq lox bulsa kerak boshqalar oldida bunaqa geroylar

aka lost aytkanlariday ...hammasi vaziyatga bog'liq

lekin baribir yashab ketishsa ham - bir hil erkaklar keyin butun umir pesh qilib yurishadi...san qiz emas eding deb:twisted:

nima qilganda ham insoflilar safi kamaymasin

NYyankNY
06-21-2007, 06:23 PM
bitta narsaga hayron qolamanda!:rolleyes: nima qizning virgin bumasligiga uning oldin sex bilan shugullangan bulishi shartmi?juda kup sababalar bilan qiz bola bilib-bilmay uzi sababchi bulib qoladi!shuning uchun tuydan oldin agar sevgan qizingiz busa bu haqida sizga aytsa!kechirish mumkin!menimcha uzi yigitlarning 90%ham virgin emas!:lol: :lol:


:lool::lool::lool:
Aha Hudi shunaqa manimcha 99% lekin sani gapingayam qoshilaman :lool:

corsair
06-21-2007, 08:08 PM
what if she was raped?
what if she was born like that? (i know it happens)
what if she was operated? (cancer and etc)