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oltoy
10-03-2001, 02:21 PM
Do'stlar,

Muborak Islom dinining ichiga rak mikrobidek kirib olgan Vahhobilik haqda nima bilasilar? Laden degan shaytonning ham vahhobi ekanligini bilamiz va vahhobilikning O'rto Oziya respublikalariga qanday ziyonlar keltira oladiganini ham tahmin eta olamiz.

Shu to'g'rida, marhamat...

Kuzmich!!
10-03-2001, 06:59 PM
Searched through Google and here what I found.
"The revolutionary thought has been the predominant idea in the works of Sayyid Qutb and Mawdudi and others. Orthodox
Muslims – whom the Sufi Gnostics would call “Wahhabis”(!!) have been instrumental in refuting this heretical and destructive
doctrine, as well its propounders. Sayyid Qutb, ironically, has more in common with Sufism, Asharism and Mysticism than
he has with the so called “Wahabbis”, having propounded the theory of the Unity of Existence that is so fundamental to
Sufist ideology and practice, as well as divesting Allaah of His attributes, in addition to his praising of mysticism and the
practises of the Sufis.

Bin Ladin actually comes from this school of thought, that of “Qutubism”, having acquired it from his teacher Mohammad
Qutb and also his greatest teacher, Omar Abdur-Rahman (as Bin Ladin himself confesses). Bin Ladin judged the “Wahhabi”
state, Saudi Arabia, with apostasy on account of its allowing American troops into its soil, during the Gulf War, as well as its
involvement with usurious transactions, claiming that the Saudi government had declared usury to be legal in Islam (istihlaal),
had altered the legislation of Allaah in the manner that the priests and rabbis of Judaism and Christianity had done, and failed
to rule entirely by the Islamic Sharee’ah. While there is no hard evidence linking him to the WTC attacks, with the word
“suspect” continuing to be used through all media coverage, and denial by Bin Laden himself, Bin Ladin has implicated himself
in these activities by his own foolish statements and declarations of the past, and by which he has defaced the image of Islaam
and allowed the Zionist media to capitalize upon this to the full max, making the world become averse to Islaam, at a time
when it was opening up to it.

Thus, the current attempt by Naqshabandite Vultures to capitalise upon the terrible incidents in New York, is a very cheap
attempt to develop propaganda for their own paganism which is so blatantly alien to Islamic Orthodoxy. Indeed, when
Orthodox Muslims distributed the above article on the Nashabandite Heresy (GSC090001) years ago, the Sufi Gnostics
scurried to and fro with their public relations farce, attempting to have this article removed from the Internet altogether, by
whatever means possible, until even when deceit and treachery and lying against Muslims was required. Well try as hard as
they may. The truth of Monotheism is all but apparent by virtue of its own clarity.

Orthodox Muslims (or call them “Wahhabis” if you like) denounce the terrorist activities and those who promote them, as
they are innovations and alien to Islam, just like they denounce the paganism of the Sufic Gnostic cults, who are the
opportune wolves in sheeps clothing, and whose doctrines and practices are also alien to Islaam

Kuzmich
10-03-2001, 07:06 PM
All Praise is due to Allaah (Azza wa Jall) who sent his Messenger (sallallaahu alaihi wasallam) with guidance and the true religion so
that it may become manifest over all other religions. May the Salaat and Salaam of Allaah be upon the last and noblest of All the
Prophets, Muhammad (sallallaahu alaihi wasallam), on the family of the Prophet (sallallaahu alaihi wasallam) and upon the noble
companions (ra) and on all those who follow the path of righteousness until the last day.

It is the habit of the people of today that they label as anyone who calls to Tawheed and warns against all forms of shirk a Wahabbi.
So since this has become prominent amongst some of the Muslims, who call themselves Sunnis then we should refer back to the
Qur'aan and the Sunnah upon the understanding of the first three generations in order to ascertain what is the truth.

(1) Firstly Al-Wahabb is one of the beautiful names of Allaah (Azza Wa Jall) meaning the all-giver and so how can anyone twist this
beautiful name, Aoudhoubillah.

(2) The usage of 'Wahabbi' comes from a scholar who lived some time ago by the name of Muhammad Bin Abdul-Wahaab, who called
to Tawheed and defended it and warned against Shirk and fought its people. So if these people were truthful they would use the term
'Muhammadi' since Abdul-Wahaab was the name of his father.

(3) Alllaah (Azza Wa Jall) has prohibited us from insulting using nicknames as He (Azza Wa Jall) says:

"And do not insult by nicknames" Al Hujuraat 49:11

(4) The people of the past accused Imaam Shafiee of being a Rafidee and he replied with:

If Rafd is loving the Family of Muhammad (sallallaahu alaihi wasallam)
Then the humans and Jinns witness that I am a Rafidee.

So we refute with what a poet said:

If the follower of the Prophet (sallallaahu alaihi wasallam) is a Wahabbi
Then I affirm that I am a Wahabbi

(5) It is the duty of the Muslims to call to Tawheed and warn against Shirk:

Allaah (Azza Wa Jall) says: "And we have sent to every nation a Messenger saying Worship Allaah alone and avoid the
Taghoot " [An Nahl 36]

The Taghoot is anything that is worshipped besides Allaah (Azza Wa Jall).

The call to Tawheed is the call of all the Messengers:

Allaah (Azza Wa Jall) says: "To Aad (We sent) their brother Hud. He said: 'Oh my people, worship Allaah, you have no other
Illah except Him, will you not fear (Allaah) " [Al Aa'raaf 7:65]

And He (Azza Wa Jall) says: "To Thamud we sent their brother Salih. He said: O my people worship Allaah You have no
other Illah except Him " [Hud 11:61]

So see how the dawah to Tawheed is the dawah of all the Prophets and the battle between Tawheed and Shirk is long standing.

But today if you make this call you are labelled a Wahabbi. But this call existed long before Muhammad Ibn Abdul Wahabb was
born. The evidences of Tawheed existed long before the birth of Muhammad Ibn Abdul Wahabb. The collection of hadeeth like
Bukhari and Muslim existed hundreds of years before even the great great grandfather of Muhammad bin Abdul Wahaab was born. So
if we quote hadeeth from Bukhari and Muslim as evidences for Tawheed and we are Wahaabis then was Imaam Bukhari a Wahaabi or
Imaam Muslim.

kuzmich
10-03-2001, 07:06 PM
(1) If you read the ayat in the Qur'aan:

"You alone do we Worship and you alone do we seek help from " [Fatihah 1:4]

Then are you a Wahabbi?

(2) If you mention the hadeeth narrated by Ibn Abbas (ra) found in An-Nawawis Fourty Hadeeth:

The Prophet (sallallaahu alaihi wasallam) said: "When you ask, then ask Allaah, and when you seek help seek help from
Allaah alone " Are you a Wahabbi?

(3) Or maybe if you mention the hadeeth of the Prophet (sallallaahu alaihi wasallam):

"Whoever dies while calling upon other than Allaah shall enter the Hell fire " [Bukhari]

(4) Or maybe you are a Wahabbi if when told that the Awliyah know the unseen you say But Allaah (Azza wa Jall) says:

"With him are the keys of the unseen, none knows them but He " [Al An'aam 6:59]

(5) And perhaps you are a Wahabbi if you expose Ibn Arabi for his kufr statements such as:

"The Lord is the Slave and the Slave is the Lord
Oh I wish I knew who was the one in authority"

(6) Or maybe you are a Wahabbi if you deny that the Prophet (sallallaahu alaihi wasallam) was made from light and that he had and
still has the power to bring good to us:

Allaah (Azza wa Jall) says:

"Say O Muhammad (sallallaahu alaihi wasallam) I posess no power to benefit or hurt myself except as Allaah wills. If I
had Knowledge of the unseen , I should have secured for myself an abundance of wealth, and no evil should have touched
me. I am but a warner , and a bringer of glad tidings unto people who believe " [Al A'raaf 7:188]

(7) Or maybe you're a Wahabbi if you don't celebarate the birthday of the Prophet (sallallaahu alaihi wasallam) or Praise him highly
elevating him above his being a Prophet:

The Prophet (sallallaahu alaihi wasallam) said: "Do not exaggerate in praising me as the Christians exaggerated in praising
the Son of Maryam (Eesaa) (alaihis-salaam), for verily I am only a slave, so say slave of Allaah and His Messenger "
[Bukhari]

(8) Maybe you are a Wahaabi if you don't call upon Abdul Qaadir al-Jeelaanee to remove some harm from you and you mention the
ayah:

"If Allaah touches you with harm, none can remove it except He " Al An'aam 6: 17.

Was the Scholar who said the following a Wahabbi ?

"Ask Allaah and do not ask other than Him,. Seek help from Allaah and do not seek help from other then Him. Woe to you, with
which face will you meet Him tomorrow? You contend with Him in the world, turning away from Him, and approaching His creation
thus associating partners with Him. You submit your needs to them and rely on them in your important matters. Increase the ways
and means between yourself and Allaah, for verily, if you stop that, then it is foolishness. There is no king, or authority, no
self-sufficiency and no might except with Allaah, The Mighty, The Magestic, turn towards Allaah without the creation"

He seems to meet the criterion, who was he, he was none other than the one some people call upon, Abdul Qaadir al-Jeelaanee, he
said this in Fath ur Rabaanee.

Or maybe the one who said the following was a Wahabbi:

" I hate to ask Allaah, by other than Allaah"

This man was Imaam Abu Haneefah, reported in Daar ul Mukhtaar.

They (the so called 'Sunnis') say the Wahabbis don't love the Prophet (sallallaahu alaihi wasallam) since we don't call upon him or
make intercession through him, they claim that they are lovers of the Prophet (sallallaahu alaihi wasallam), and we reply with the
saying of a poet:

"If your love was true you would have obeyed him,
Verily the lover is to the beloved obedient"

In Conclusion:

It seems that they call people a Wahabbi who

(1) Worship Allaah alone, love Tawheed and hate Shirk
(2) Make duaa to Allaah alone
(3) Rely in Allaah alone
(4) Follow the Sunnah of the Prophet (sallallaahu alaihi wasallam), and hate and avoid innovations.
(5) Adhere to the path of the companions (ra)
(6) Read the books of the Imaams and take from them.

And our final call is to Allaah Lord of all the Creation.

kuzmich
10-03-2001, 07:12 PM
I aint Vovchik, I just posted what I found do not take me wrong. wuhahah Osten Poverovitch
:(( :-)) :oo I am a }> Dick Man ^_^ Wuhaha

O'zbek Bola
10-04-2001, 11:39 AM
Bratva,

Pochem opium dlya naroda nynche?

:-)

oltoy
10-04-2001, 04:16 PM
bularning O'zbekcasi yo'qmikan u bollar