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Mona Lisa
05-30-2004, 06:58 PM
http://www.ohlsson.de/DIMITRIDANILOFF.html

Just take a look at above link. He is pretty cool photographer.
Enjoy the pics! ;)

PS. some of the pictures are quite controversial and there is some partial nudity! So you've been warned about the content.

MaChiaVeLLiaN
05-30-2004, 08:00 PM
Daaamn. That was good one ;) I liked "LIPS" :lol:

Mona Lisa
05-31-2004, 01:08 PM
http://www.ohlsson.de/OS/jpg/014_015.jpg

Here is the best pic.
Some more: http://www.ohlsson.de/OLGASAMUELS.html

Webbie
05-31-2004, 01:14 PM
ML, cool...very creative... :shock:

BIBIHONUM
05-31-2004, 01:23 PM
http://www.ohlsson.de/OS/jpg/014_015.jpg

Here is the best pic.
Some more: http://www.ohlsson.de/OLGASAMUELS.html
:shocked: :scramble: :sprint:

Dunyokezganqalandar
05-31-2004, 01:25 PM
balli...ballli

Mona Lisa
05-31-2004, 01:28 PM
TT: Agh you shouldn't have posted here. The whole point was people suppose to find it out. :D

WASP
05-31-2004, 01:29 PM
female body is the best Art ever...mmmmmmmm. Lol.

WASP
05-31-2004, 01:30 PM
TT: Agh you shouldn't have posted here. The whole point was people suppose to find it out. :D

God, I have been screwing up everything lately.. and I should disappear for sometime :)

Mona Lisa
05-31-2004, 01:37 PM
God, I have been screwing up everything lately.. and I should disappear for sometime :)No it is OK. ;)

PS.Have you seen other advert for PS2, the one shopping for heads? That I think is cool.

Bibihonum: Uzr siz bunaqa 'shok' holatiga tushasiz deb o'ylamangan edim :D (hazil albatta)

WASP
05-31-2004, 01:46 PM
:shocked: :scramble: :sprint:


LOOOOOOOOOOOL. Anau indiyskiy kurib yuradigan qizlardan ekan sizde huh? :lol:

BIBIHONUM
05-31-2004, 02:01 PM
LOOOOOOOOOOOL. Anau indiyskiy kurib yuradigan qizlardan ekan sizde huh? :lol:
Topdiyiz.Halicha bu qadar rivojlanmaganman. :oops: :lol:

Webbie
05-31-2004, 02:13 PM
ML, now this tread should be rated "R" :D

Dunyokezganqalandar
05-31-2004, 02:15 PM
:lol: ML, now this tread should be rated "R" :D
useless, coz everybody here over 17 :lol:

Webbie
05-31-2004, 02:17 PM
not eeeeeverrrrybody..... :rolleyes: hehe

Mona Lisa
05-31-2004, 02:19 PM
useless, coz everybody here over 17 :lol:Isn't it suppose to be over 18 for 'R' rating? If that is the case then users at the age of 17 get out :arrow:
It is not for kids. ;)

Dunyokezganqalandar
05-31-2004, 02:43 PM
Isn't it suppose to be over 18 for 'R' rating? If that is the case then users at the age of 17 get out :arrow:
It is not for kids. ;)
"R" is 17
i dunno why many people think it is 18

M_L
05-31-2004, 02:54 PM
"R" is 17
i dunno why many people think it is 18
OK. Sorry it's my mistake. ;)

MaChiaVeLLiaN
05-31-2004, 02:55 PM
Isn't it suppose to be over 18 for 'R' rating? If that is the case then users at the age of 17 get out :arrow:
It is not for kids. ;)
Another Verse: "If ur under 17... Have your parent or Guardian next 2 you :rolleyes: Or get the hell out of here :P "

noodles
05-31-2004, 03:12 PM
i liked the girls boobs...

Dunyokezganqalandar
05-31-2004, 03:21 PM
Another Verse: "If ur under 17... Have your parent or Guardian next 2 you :rolleyes: Or get the hell out of here :P "
here is nobody under 17. i mean from registered users :D

i liked the girls boobs...
rahmat ML och bollarni qornini to'ydirdiz

WASP
05-31-2004, 04:49 PM
OK. Sorry it's my mistake. ;)

he's wrong.. R-rated movies are for 18 and older. PG-13 is for 12 and older. MA(Mature)-Rated... well you'all know this porno-lovers. lol.

G'aribiy
05-31-2004, 05:04 PM
I am sorry, but I cannot call this "art". I think the "artist" himself suffers from severe psychological disturbances. I saw just two categories:
1. Erotica.
2. Interpretations of the author's hallucinations.
BTW, Mona Lisa, I found very disgusting the one called "the best".
No offence.
Peace.

WASP
05-31-2004, 05:10 PM
I am sorry, but I cannot call this "art". I think the "artist" himself suffers from severe psychological disturbances. I saw just two categories:
1. Erotica.
2. Interpretations of the author's hallucinations.
BTW, Mona Lisa, I found very disgusting the one called "the best".
No offence.
Peace.

simply b/c you are so close-minded, does not mean everybody is. Dude, I respect you expressing your own opinion in regards of this particular art, but generally Art is very ambiguous and interpreted differently by people. That is, this Art is interesting... I know it may look like Erotica, but it's Art. It's not just taking pictures of nude girls. They represent something... overall, Art is a freedom of mind (of the author) expressed in many different ways (in this case, a combination of pictures), and you have no right to judge the Artist for his work, but more importantly calling him mentally disordered. In fact, I think the author is very original and creative in his specialty.

WASP
05-31-2004, 05:17 PM
Garibiy, read my signature...

BIBIHONUM
05-31-2004, 06:01 PM
First of all you open minded person try to diffirentiatiate evil art from real art. It is true that, art is the peice of work wich gives you mental satisfaction and moral pleasure. What kind a normal person gets moral and mental pleasure from nudity. From your expressions you just describing which group of "art lovers" you belong. It might be art for some one but some other person it might be just B.S.
Addittionally supporter of these arts I think you guys are look like legally grown up but mentally kid, who gets excited when they saw naked woman or nudity.
One more thing.
Which one of you or your family members want o be part of this art. If non of you want it, just think are you contradicting to yourself or not. In one day your sisiter or family member can be part of this art. Then, I would ask you JUST ONE QUESTION :"Are you proud that you or your family member is a part of this art? "
Guys joke with joke
Just dont use your keyboard and computer.

Webbie
05-31-2004, 06:16 PM
I am sorry, but I cannot call this "art". I think the "artist" himself suffers from severe psychological disturbances. I saw just two categories:
1. Erotica.
2. Interpretations of the author's hallucinations.

a chem eto ne "art"?

WASP
05-31-2004, 06:20 PM
You call us kids, but at the same time it's You who is shocked as if you have never seen a nude woman/man at least in pictures :P. It's a piece of Art. There is no any certain way to create Art. Art that may seem beautiful to you, may seem meaningless to somebody else. There is nothing wrong with this piece of art, it's in its own way original and beautiful, nonetheless I see your point of looking at it with a typical religious attitude, but you are wrong. It's an Art, and some people enjoy it... this Art was not designed to show the nudity, look deeper... try to find a message, and if all you see in this piece of stunning Art is nudity.... than I have some bad news for you. Relax. Sex is Art too...I bet if you see (not that I want to offend you) people having sex in the museum, unlike some people who may find it beautiful, because it really is (and that's why we love it :P), people like you would be shocked, and disgusted! Take it easy, if you don't like it... does not mean everybody should.

WASP
05-31-2004, 06:26 PM
And one more thing.... you know, some people may not find it beautiful, but they sure will find their own message in it. In fact, if you think about it (from your perspective) you could say that the author has the same opinion with yours, and is trying to show how disgraceful (all this MA-rated movies, having sex in parks, gay clubs... having children at 13-15 ages) have our society become. You see my point now??? So it may contain many different messages, and it's You who should find them and see the beauty/meaning in it. Decide whether the author got his message across the audience or no. I am an Artist too you know...

BIBIHONUM
05-31-2004, 06:30 PM
You call us kids, but at the same time it's You who is shocked as if you have never seen a nude woman/man at least in pictures :P. It's a piece of Art. There is no any certain way to create Art. Art that may seem beautiful to you, may seem meaningless to somebody else. There is nothing wrong with this piece of art, it's in its own way original and beautiful, nonetheless I see your point of looking at it with a typical religious attitude, but you are wrong. It's an Art, and some people enjoy it... this Art was not designed to show the nudity, look deeper... try to find a message, and if all you see in this piece of stunning Art is nudity.... than I have some bad news for you. Relax. Sex is Art too...I bet if you see (not that I want to offend you) people having sex in the museum, unlike some people who may find it beautiful, because it really is (and that's why we love it :P), people like you would be shocked, and disgusted! Take it easy, if you don't like it... does not mean everybody should.

Dear my friend it might be art. BUT the main quaestion is who consideres this piece as art? With your expressions you just showing what type of art lover you are. Additionally I am not that religous as you descrbed. If you are an atheist then then ther is no point to argue with you.
Second try to diffirentiate sex with sex. Not all sex is the same. Do you consider for you oral eqaul with casual. And do you prefer them eqaully.
I will cite you from "Bhavagat gita":
"Human body is god's pure temple". Trashing this temple is never considered as art.

BIBIHONUM
05-31-2004, 06:37 PM
I am an Artist too you know...
Yes I know most of the artists are atheists and wird persons. I never saw an artist as a normal person. If you great artist then you are not normal. After noticing about yourself i think there is no point argue with you.

MaChiaVeLLiaN
05-31-2004, 06:39 PM
Every time when you point on something, you mention that there ain't no use of arguing on.... :?

Topdiyiz.Halicha bu qadar rivojlanmaganman. :oops: :lol:

After these words of yours, I think no one should Argue w/ you ;)

BIBIHONUM
05-31-2004, 06:41 PM
Every time when you point on something, you mention that there ain't no use of arguing on.... :?



After these words of yours, I think no one should Argue w/ you ;)

What do you mean by this?

WASP
05-31-2004, 06:43 PM
Dear my friend it might be art. BUT the main quaestion is who consideres this piece as art? With your expressions you just showing what type of art lover you are. Additionally I am not that religous as you descrbed. If you are an atheist then then ther is no point to argue with you.
Second try to diffirentiate sex with sex. Not all sex is the same. Do you consider for you oral eqaul with casual. And do you prefer them eqaully.
I will cite you from "Bhavagat gita":
"Human body is god's pure temple". Trashing this temple is never considered as art.

I answered to your main question like 10 times already. I am not an atheist, I am a Muslim. I am open-minded, and I try to look at things and find it's own beauties. We're all human beings... you have a butt, as much as I do and everybody else does, that also concerns other human anatomy. So, it's all the same. Besides, you're missing out on major point of the Art.. it is NOT about nudity, ART IS ABOUT MESSAGE!!! What do you think this author was trying to express in his Art?? Do you really think the author is trying to encourage young kids to have sex? If "yes", you have got to be kidding me....

And about your point in regards of differentiating sex from sex. I think you were trying to say sex from porno. Sex - beautiful. Porno - disgusting. Should I define which is what, or would you take it from here? If you interested about my preferences, I love just sex, romantic one. (I would not mind girl blowing me though... lol. joke). You know, what you cited is unknowingly old... and you should not be perceiving it literally. There is a message as well, and you should NOT just apply those words to every single situation. You have got to learn to analyze and make decisions, which, as far as I am concerned, you have failed to do so by far. But again, just to emphasize what I am trying to say, it is the message what is important (the one that you see in any piece of art) not the actual elements. I suggest you read some books about Art, before calling everything you see a bull s.

p.s. moderators, for the love of God, I am not tying to be offensive, don't ban me for my explicit (note. not offensive) language. Big difference.

MaChiaVeLLiaN
05-31-2004, 06:43 PM
Topdiyiz.Halicha bu qadar rivojlanmaganman. :oops: :lol:<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< THis.



RIvojlanganizdan keyin Gaplashamiz ;)

vipshams
05-31-2004, 06:45 PM
Huh..

Juda ham JUJALARbop mavzu bo'libdi, qani bo'sh kelmanglar jujaxo'rozlar.

BIBIHONUM
05-31-2004, 06:47 PM
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< THis

When I sad this I meant that, I am not spoiled at that level
Just stop nip-tucking if you have real argument then say it

MaChiaVeLLiaN
05-31-2004, 06:48 PM
Huh..

Juda ham JUJALARbop mavzu bo'libdi, qani bo'sh kelmanglar jujaxo'rozlar.
Lolik. Daje shutta ham VIPSHAMS chakegini yumib tura olmadi....:)

ghe ghe ghe

WASP
05-31-2004, 06:53 PM
Yes I know most of the artists are atheists and wird persons. I never saw an artist as a normal person. If you great artist then you are not normal. After noticing about yourself i think there is no point argue with you.


Where did you get that from???? There is an artist in every person (even people who read in Mosques, they read namaz artistically, in their own style that is). If you aren't artistic, that is the same as not being creative. If you are not creative, that means you are not a smart person. You have to be an artist, to even come up with your own ideas, regardless what field that is. Even Einstein was an artist, in his own way. So you are very wrong about this. I, personally, love any kind of Art. I am not a professional Artist, but I can play with "things" using digital software. Think before you speak, girl.

MaChiaVeLLiaN
05-31-2004, 06:53 PM
When I sad this I meant that, I am not spoiled at that level
Just stop nip-tucking if you have real argument then say it
Do you consider "Rivojlangan" as "Spoiled"? Then there is no use to argue with you any more.

BIBIHONUM
05-31-2004, 06:55 PM
I answered to your main question like 10 times already. I am not an atheist, I am a Muslim. I am open-minded, and I try to look at things and find it's own beauties. We're all human beings... you have a butt, as much as I do and everybody else does, that also concerns other human anatomy. So, it's all the same. Besides, you're missing out on major point of the Art.. it is NOT about nudity, ART IS ABOUT MESSAGE!!! What do you think this author was trying to express in his Art?? Do you really think the author is trying to encourage young kids to have sex? If "yes", you have got to be kidding me....

And about your point in regards of differentiating sex from sex. I think you were trying to say sex from porno. Sex - beautiful. Porno - disgusting. Should I define which is what, or would you take it from here? If you interested about my preferences, I love just sex, romantic one. (I would not mind girl blowing me though... lol. joke). You know, what you cited is unknowingly old... and you should not be perceiving it literally. There is a message as well, and you should NOT just apply those words to every single situation. You have got to learn to analyze and make decisions, which, as far as I am concerned, you have failed to do so by far. But again, just to emphasize what I am trying to say, it is the message what is important (the one that you see in any piece of art) not the actual elements. I suggest you read some books about Art, before calling everything you see a bull s.

p.s. moderators, for the love of God, I am not tying to be offensive, don't ban me for my explicit (note. not offensive) language. Big difference.

Dear respected artist.
There are different messages. You do not have to take all this messegaes. If some artist did something and called this as a piece of art it does not mean that you have to take it.See what he is messaging. You can get thoussands better measages without lookin this "Piece of art". If you consider yourself as muslim then you are just considering yourself as muslim, which means you just on the list not on the class.

BIBIHONUM
05-31-2004, 06:59 PM
Do you consider "Rivojlangan" as "Spoiled"? Then there is no use to argue with you any more.

Stop nip tucking and get to the point.

MaChiaVeLLiaN
05-31-2004, 06:59 PM
Karr karr karr deb ko'r qani bir. Zora xo'rozga o'xshab ko'rinsang. heh, Jujaxo'roz.

Do not give up. You are the best... hehehee.

whatever. ;) peace

WASP
05-31-2004, 07:00 PM
Dear respected artist.
There are different messages. You do not have to take all this messegaes. If some artist did something and called this as a piece of art it does not mean that you have to take it.See what he is messaging. You can get thoussands better measages without lookin this "Piece of art". If you consider yourself as muslim then you are just considering yourself as muslim, which means you just on the list not on the class.

I am sorry, I do not know any other way to explain my position, or simply you are not reading my posts. I am not willing to continue this.. Ba-bye.


p.s. could you please read your post again (the last), cause I do not see any argument in it, nor a meaning.

MaChiaVeLLiaN
05-31-2004, 07:05 PM
Stop nip tucking and get to the point.
I aint trying to critisize you or some like that. Just Wanna point that u see muslim religion and arts(this kind of arts) not compitible, right?
Thats why I am saying there is no use to argue bout it...

BIBIHONUM
05-31-2004, 07:07 PM
I am sorry, I do not know any other way to explain my position, or simply you are not reading my posts. I am not willing to continue this.. Ba-bye.
p.s. could you please read your post again (the last), cause I do not see any argument in it, nor a meaning.

I got your position perfectly. I understand that there is no agreement betweeen our views. buy

MaChiaVeLLiaN
05-31-2004, 07:08 PM
I think the "artist" himself suffers from severe psychological disturbances.
Как сказал доктор Джонсон: "Сам бог не судит человека, пока не

окончатся дни его".

Почему же должны судить мы c вами?

WASP
05-31-2004, 07:11 PM
I got your position perfectly. I understand that there is no agreement betweeen our views. buy

Give me some money... :lol:

BIBIHONUM
05-31-2004, 07:14 PM
BIBIHONUM, you should (HAD BETTER) get out (quit) from this topic immediately please. (think that I'm begging??)


sincers vipshams

I am not willing to continue this argument any more with this "high -open minded muslims"

Thank you for your consideration

WASP
05-31-2004, 07:16 PM
me neither, conservative-close-minded-muslim. So, where is the money? lol.

BIBIHONUM
05-31-2004, 07:16 PM
Give me some money... :lol:

Just paint your art then you will get your penny :lol:

WASP
05-31-2004, 07:17 PM
Just paint your art then you will get your penny :lol:

you know, I try to respect person's opinion at the outset of the discussion, but when they slightly, even very slightly start showing their attitude.. i just say, get a life b---!

BIBIHONUM
05-31-2004, 07:21 PM
you know, I try to respect person's opinion at the outset of the discussion, but when they slightly, even very slightly start showing their attitude.. i just say, get a life b---!

This is my last reply.
You showed me that your art worth penny, but you worth cheeper than that.

MaChiaVeLLiaN
05-31-2004, 07:22 PM
LoL. Here my lovely song comes:

Go to sleep b*tch. Die mazaf#%ing die. Ugh, what?! Are you still alive???:lol:

WASP
05-31-2004, 07:23 PM
This is my last reply.
You showed me that your art worth penny, but you worth cheeper than that.


at least I am capable of creating something Artistic.. you worth nothing, at least I am cheap - I have my price, and again you worth nothing...

WASP
05-31-2004, 07:25 PM
LoL. Here my lovely song comes:

Go to sleep b*tch. Die mazaf#%ing die. Ugh, what?! Are you still alive???:lol:


whoaoha! :) Endi ikkalamiza ham uch kun.. trezvitel'da yotamiza :lol:

MaChiaVeLLiaN
05-31-2004, 07:26 PM
whoaoha! :) Endi ikkalamiza ham uch kun.. trezvitel'da yotamiza :lol:

whaohaoahoaoa

Mona Lisa
05-31-2004, 09:25 PM
Woooooow guys hey please stop, just stop here OK. If you wanna have discussion do it properly and in civilised way. :shock:
Yeah it is art, piece of junk, humiliation of human body, disgusting, beautiful and of course ugly. It depends what one sees from that picture and how he/she percieves it.
To MaChiaVelliaN: Could you please delete one your posts on page#4. That wasn't appropraite thing to say. Hopefully you'll understand me correctly. :)

Mona Lisa
05-31-2004, 09:45 PM
I am sorry, but I cannot call this "art". I think the "artist" himself suffers from severe psychological disturbances. I saw just two categories:
1. Erotica.
2. Interpretations of the author's hallucinations.
BTW, Mona Lisa, I found very disgusting the one called "the best".
No offence.
Peace.
You haven't offended me in any matter yet so no need for that.
I can not say you are wrong or right in that matter. I don't expect that a picture I found 'the best' should be that same with eveyone or more accuratly what you think is the best. I respect your point of view and thank you for expressing it. :)

Sincerely, ML

_MiZZou_
05-31-2004, 10:22 PM
i thought the advertisements were very intersting! :lol:
especially the PS2 ones! :D
nice, ML

Dunyokezganqalandar
05-31-2004, 10:24 PM
he's wrong.. R-rated movies are for 18 and older. PG-13 is for 12 and older. MA(Mature)-Rated... well you'all know this porno-lovers. lol.
YOU ARE WRONG!!!
may be in the village where you live people didnt waned their children not be spoiled, and they made it 18 :lol:
I went more than 10 times to rated "R" movies..with my ID where says 17. so bro dont talk about that if you are not 17 ;)


Monna Lissa, i think you know the best about art here. That's why u have this nick JAKONDA. so u dont really need our opinions...see what happened to people who thinks that they are best at the art and started show their art of speech. :P now u see that who values the art here. :o

Dunyokezganqalandar
05-31-2004, 10:25 PM
i thought the advertisements were very intersting! :lol:
especially the PS2 ones! :D
nice, ML
yes it is...but what is connection of that to ps2? :?

Mona Lisa
05-31-2004, 10:32 PM
_MiZZou_ : Thank you. Yep, the adverts are quite creative but also very controversial.

DKQ: check out all the pictures there. You'll see the pics created for the PS2 adverts and I think the connection especially for the with lots of heads is 'you can be who ever want to be or you never fail cos you've got another chance to play'

Dunyokezganqalandar
05-31-2004, 10:38 PM
-MiZZou_ : Thank you. Yep, the adverts are quite creative but also very controversial.

DKQ: check out all the pictures there. You'll see the pics created for the PS2 adverts
i saw them....u kno i agree pretty much with BIBIHOUM some artists are weird people but i dont tell that they are stupid!!!!!
no i mean..there is no connection between picture of delivery and ps2...
what ps1 delivering ps2?

Dunyokezganqalandar
05-31-2004, 10:45 PM
-MiZZou_ : Thank you. Yep, the adverts are quite creative but also very controversial.

DKQ: check out all the pictures there. You'll see the pics created for the PS2 adverts and I think the connection especially for the with lots of heads is 'you can be who ever want to be or you never fail cos you've got another chance to play'
that was great one i liked that the best
but what about delivery?

Mona Lisa
05-31-2004, 10:52 PM
Delivery: could be a new beginning I mean the game. Why adult not a baby probably means maturity or something for all not just for kids.
Ohh no, do I sound like someone who talks crap in art? :shock: :lol:

Mona Lisa
06-01-2004, 01:19 AM
http://www.stevenarnold.net/images/09.jpg
Photographer: Steve Arnold.

OK art critics, I hope this pic won't cause any harm.
I think this one is kind of expression of darkness, lost spirit or maybe just a thought... :?

Please feel free to post or give us a link to 'best' images created by professional photographers or even yours.

PS. please no bad language or fighting or nonsence posts which aren't related to the topic. Thank you!

WASP
06-01-2004, 07:38 AM
YOU ARE WRONG!!!
may be in the village where you live people didnt waned their children not be spoiled, and they made it 18 :lol:
I went more than 10 times to rated "R" movies..with my ID where says 17. so bro dont talk about that if you are not 17 ;)


Monna Lissa, i think you know the best about art here. That's why u have this nick JAKONDA. so u dont really need our opinions...see what happened to people who thinks that they are best at the art and started show their art of speech. :P now u see that who values the art here. :o


i live in the city punk, but yeah i guess you were right, just checked online it says 17 and older... so, f off. :lol:

noodles
06-01-2004, 01:02 PM
Dunyokezganqalandar, "I liked the girls boobs" znachit golodniy chto li u vas? esli toko ti tak dumaesh znachit problema v tebya i eto kasaetsa toko tebya tak chto pri sebya ostav..

ti luchshe pishi to chto ti sam dumaesh ob etih fotkah... esli nechego skazat, to luchshe promolchi i ne ciplaysa za kadoe slovo...

Dunyokezganqalandar
06-01-2004, 09:07 PM
i live in the city punk, but yeah i guess you were right, just checked online it says 17 and older... so, f off. :lol:
:lol: you should have checked earlier before and post it rather than f-ing off. ok whatever...happens....in what city u live?

Max, i think u didnt get that that was kind of Joke. Of course i have something to say.

The thing that i want to share is that I liked the photo of PS2 where person can chose any head. And i liked the explanation of it thanx ML
But still it is not big art it is funny advertisement...
i prefer the art of hand. Pictures and sculptures rather than photos. It doesnt mean that i dont accept the photo pictures as art. i think the main purpose of Photoart is to catch the MOMENT.