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chicagoan
06-18-2004, 04:47 PM
ISLAM - CURE FOR ALL
A minister of a leading industry of Uzbekistan and I had some good conversation in 1999. He challenged my knowledge of Islam, and asked whether I would go against my parents. I said I would, if they were kafirs. Then he turned the topic, and said Islam is a religion and should not be involved in other field, to which my answer was "Islam is a way of life, and should be practiced everywhere". I gave him an example about Islam in economy, particularly in industry: " Mulk, i.e. Property is defined differently in all systems. Socialists say that Property belongs to working class, Capitalists say it belongs to Capital owners, the rich - but according to ISLAM, property belongs to ALLAH alone. If everyone knew he is working on ALLAH's property and ALLAH sees it - there would be no stealing, free-riding, lack of discipline, corruption and other economic evils." After I finished, the minister said "I am not READY for this kind of conversation", and bid me goodbye...
Guardian
06-18-2004, 05:03 PM
:salam:
R u okay? i think everyone should have that in his'/her inn, not like some mullas (they say the right way to others, but they r not proper themselves).
sorry for a bit strict comment.
JOE
chicagoan
06-18-2004, 05:13 PM
:salam:
R u okay? i think everyone should have that in his'/her inn, not like some mullas (they say the right way to others, but they r not proper themselves).
sorry for a bit strict comment.
JOE
va alaykum salom,
Alhamdulillah, I am OK. I just wanted to share an experience, real one, not made up stories that show this and that. Do u know me? Or u saw me saying one thing, and doing another? Pull out all my postings, do they contradict to each other?
if you don't like something I wrote, go on. Don't try to humiliate in any way, oshna. Am I understood?
alloh rozi bo'sin.
wassalam,
mr
Guardian
06-18-2004, 05:19 PM
va alaykum salom,
Alhamdulillah, I am OK. I just wanted to share an experience, real one, not made up stories that show this and that. Do u know me? Or u saw me saying one thing, and doing another? Pull out all my postings, do they contradict to each other?
if you don't like something I wrote, go on. Don't try to humiliate in any way, oshna. Am I understood?
alloh rozi bo'sin.
wassalam,
mr
yana bir bor :salam: ,
Uzingizni bosing okaxon. Bilaman, siz hech qachon bir biriga qarshi gaplar aytmaganingizni kurganim yuq. lekin okaxon, nima uchundir CURE FOR ALL threadingizda qanaqadur negative imagination hosil qiladigan esample quyibsiz shu uncha kunglimga xush kelmadi. bizlarda faqat shu ekanliginda kunglim chuchib ketgan. shu thread ni biron yaxshi narsalar haqidagi misol bilan yozsangiz yaxshi bularmidi......nimagadir yomon narsalar oxirgi paytda kupayib ketvotti.
whatever, i got u. do not get angry u r right, but still i can't admit that i am wrong.
respects,
JOE
Marvin_Kaff
06-18-2004, 07:41 PM
ISLAM - CURE FOR ALL
A minister of a leading industry of Uzbekistan and I had some good conversation in 1999. He challenged my knowledge of Islam, and asked whether I would go against my parents. I said I would, if they were kafirs. Then he turned the topic, and said Islam is a religion and should not be involved in other field, to which my answer was "Islam is a way of life, and should be practiced everywhere". I gave him an example about Islam in economy, particularly in industry: " Mulk, i.e. Property is defined differently in all systems. Socialists say that Property belongs to working class, Capitalists say it belongs to Capital owners, the rich - but according to ISLAM, property belongs to ALLAH alone. If everyone knew he is working on ALLAH's property and ALLAH sees it - there would be no stealing, free-riding, lack of discipline, corruption and other economic evils." After I finished, the minister said "I am not READY for this kind of conversation", and bid me goodbye...
ASSALAMU ALEIKUM W/r w/b
If thats a true story (ya ne somnevayus')
RESPECT bro.
tarafdor
06-24-2004, 02:39 AM
:salam:
R u okay? i think everyone should have that in his'/her inn, not like some mullas (they say the right way to others, but they r not proper themselves).
sorry for a bit strict comment.
JOE
Assalomu alaykum,
Regarding what chicagoan stated on islam and economy ,that's wonderful. So it's up to, which mulla you will see as a credible one. Though you are right about mullahs, 70% of Uzbek mullahs got their diplomas during Soviet time, so here's the results of it. So when there is rule of law based on Islamic Shariah, and strictly followed by all members of the government, insholloh that country will prevail over misfortune. Islam says share you property with others unless you have nothing, so "Uyinga kerak bulgan narsa masjid uchun haromdir".
Святой Пророк (ДБАР) сказал: “Моя община будет процветать до тех пор, пока ее члены будут хранить верность (друг другу), возвращать взятые под залог вещи (их владельцам) и платить закят (налог в пользу нуждающихся членов общины). Если же они не будут выполнять этих обязанностей, то их замучат засуха и голод”.
Ma assalama
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