A small remark regarding this board

[spoon]

I have started to visit this board more often now, and found out many(!!, not all) of the threads contain quotes or links to other sites with religious affiliation.
Is this the way you people discuss Religion and Culture issues?
I am no critisizing anyone, but it's seems very funny how you reply each other with new links and quotes from others.
There're exceptions, but many of the topics don't contain a single opinion from any person.

This is just my thoughts.

[Marvin_Kaff]

Saalam aleikum w\r w\b,

Ya sam protiv Copy and Paste, no RELIGIYA eto takaya vesh', gde nichego pridumivat' nel'zya, vse osnovivaetsya na Quran i Hadiths. A vse novshevstva eto Greh. Tak chto Religiya (osobenno islam) eto ne FILOSOFIYA, eto kak bi pravel'no virazitsya Tochnaya nauka. ;)

[Alouddin]

salam, spoon,

Marvin och. pravilno vyrazilsa. nelzya govorit s buhty-barahty "eto vot tak i eto vot tak". obyazatelno nujno ssylatsa na ahadeeth i Qur'an! i takim obrazom, sohranyaetsa tselostnost Islama (ved zdes my v osnovnom Islam i obsujdayem.), t.e. ya govoryu, chto po takomu-to hadeeth nelzya delat' togo-to i togo-to. a menya srazu je sprosyat "gde tvoy daleel (proof) i hujjah (document)"? a ya govoryu, "vot pojaluysta pod etim linkom na, skajem, www.islamway.com, i lejit to, kuda ya ssylayus"! takim obrazom, spoon, to, ctho ya tsitiruyu eti istochniki i est moyo mnenie! i daje mnenie s back up'om, esli hotite! =)

best

[Joha]

:salam:

If a person says regarding Islam: "I think this is ..." then it is better for him not to open his mouth. Islam is something which is perfected by Allah swt, any issue should be directed to Quran and Sunnah of Prophet Muhammad :saws: I dont see a difference in Typing the same Hadeeth, Ayat or Copying and Pasting it ;) The result is the same. Giving LINKs would save a place and resources on board rather than pasting the Text in full. Most of Links are Fatwas of Scholars which might go on for 2-3 pages ;)

Your Brother in Islam
Imran

[Royal]

salam, spoon,

Marvin och. pravilno vyrazilsa. nelzya govorit s buhty-barahty "eto vot tak i eto vot tak". obyazatelno nujno ssylatsa na ahadeeth i Qur'an! i takim obrazom, sohranyaetsa tselostnost Islama (ved zdes my v osnovnom Islam i obsujdayem.), t.e. ya govoryu, chto po takomu-to hadeeth nelzya delat' togo-to i togo-to. a menya srazu je sprosyat "gde tvoy daleel (proof) i hujjah (document)"? a ya govoryu, "vot pojaluysta pod etim linkom na, skajem, www.islamway.com, i lejit to, kuda ya ssylayus"! takim obrazom, spoon, to, ctho ya tsitiruyu eti istochniki i est moyo mnenie! i daje mnenie s back up'om, esli hotite! =)

best

Assalomu alaykom vsem .

Men shu yerda bir savol soramoqchiman: Ozbekistondadir yoki yana boshqa joylarda nashr etilgan "Islom tarihi" togrisida har hil kitobchalar chiqqan, shulardan ham oqiladi, bu kitobchalarda ancha riboyatlaru va har hil hikoyalar va ogitlar berilgan, shulardan bittasini otgan gal post qilgan edim "Valid ibn Holid" edi , shunda mendan sorashdi bu rivoyat/hikoya hadisdanmi yoqmi agar bolmasa unda 'sahih' yani togri emas deb, balkim shundaydir, lekin unda hech bir yomon gap yoq edi bittasi toqib chiqqan rivoyat bolsin lekin togri bir tushunchani bergandi.
Hech narsa bekordan bekorga yozilmiydi va otganlar hamma narsani oz kundaliklaridan yana hayotlaridan olib yozishadi.

Soramoqchi bolgan savolimni asosiy mazmuni, Masalan: Agar bir rivoyatda etilsaki: Ooo, insonlar silar barmogilarni elektirk simga tekkizmayla tok urishi mumkin desa, yoq bu Hadis da kelmagan bu gap notogri deymizmi?

Savol mazmunini togri tushunishilarni iltimos qilib

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[tarafdor]

Assalomu alaykom vsem .

Men shu yerda bir savol soramoqchiman: Ozbekistondadir yoki yana boshqa joylarda nashr etilgan "Islom tarihi" togrisida har hil kitobchalar chiqqan, shulardan ham oqiladi, bu kitobchalarda ancha riboyatlaru va har hil hikoyalar va ogitlar berilgan, shulardan bittasini otgan gal post qilgan edim "Valid ibn Holid" edi , shunda mendan sorashdi bu rivoyat/hikoya hadisdanmi yoqmi agar bolmasa unda 'sahih' yani togri emas deb, balkim shundaydir, lekin unda hech bir yomon gap yoq edi bittasi toqib chiqqan rivoyat bolsin lekin togri bir tushunchani bergandi.
Hech narsa bekordan bekorga yozilmiydi va otganlar hamma narsani oz kundaliklaridan yana hayotlaridan olib yozishadi.

Soramoqchi bolgan savolimni asosiy mazmuni, Masalan: Agar bir rivoyatda etilsaki: Ooo, insonlar silar barmogilarni elektirk simga tekkizmayla tok urishi mumkin desa, yoq bu Hadis da kelmagan bu gap notogri deymizmi?

Savol mazmunini togri tushunishilarni iltimos qilib

va
Assalomu alaykum birodarlar,
Savol aniq tushunildi. Siz aytgandek hamma narsa niyatga bog'liq, yani usha half-naked ayolni yonidan gunohsiz utish mumkin. Har bir odam ma'lumotni uz capacity'ga qarab qabul qiladi, yani uni o'z hayotiga adopt qiladi. Shunisi ham bor,
Hammamiz bilamiz Injil Iso (s.a.v) o'limlaridan keyin 200 yildan yoziladi, va 100 yildan so'ng katta yig'ilishda u kishing Tanri ekanligi va hamma yozilgan Injilardan 4 tasi haqiqiy deb tan oldindi. Lekin etiborli tomoni shundaki Payg'ambarimiz Muhammad(SAV) kelishlari haqidagi hushhabar bitilgan Injil esa hali ham Rimda halqadan uzoqda kelinmoqda. Lekin har bir usha tan olingan Injilda bir biriga qarama qarshi fikirlar kelgan. Oddiy Iso (s.a.v) tug'ilgan yillari hammasida har hil. Man bir pastordan so'ragandim, siz qanday qilib v qaysiga ishonasiz deganimga u shunday javob berdi. "Biz uchun kitobning ichida yozilgani muhim emas, bizga usha muqaddas ruh biz bilan bo'lganligi eng muhim narsa va bu usha asosiy tamoyilni tashkil qiladi, yani usha muqaddas ruh biz bilan va bizga yo'l ko'rsatadi, bizga maslahat beradi". Men aytdim "yani qayerda siz amin bo'ldingizki usha muqaddas ruhd eb hisoblagan narsangiz shayton emasda, muqaddas ruh, chunki shayton hamma vaqt bizning vujudumizda, hamma avqt bizni chalg'itib yolg'on fikrlar beradi". Bunga u hech narsa demadi va mendan uzoqlashdi. To'gri hech bir kitobda o'zingni os yoki uldir degan gap kelmaydi, lekin shuni bilishimiz kerakki, biz bilmagan holda uyerda fatwo ketadi, ushani uchun har bir gapirganimizda ehtiyot bulishimiz kerak. Ertaga qiyomatda javob berishimiz kerak bular uchun.

Ma assalama