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[Administrator]

[/b]I don't see any major differences among Islam, Christianity and Judaism (only semantics), so the importance of conversion from one to another is artificially exaggerated,[/b]
no there ae alot of main differences between them.

Maybe some guy wants to leave Christianity for Islam because he wants to have many wives?

really? it is better to be non moslem and stay oway from islam if a guy really has such kind of ambitions.

Or some woman wants to convert from Islam to Christianity because she wants to pray together with her husband and sons?

i dont understand your point ? where islam bans women to pray together with his sons and husband?

[trigger-happy]

[/b]I don't see any major differences among Islam, Christianity and Judaism (only semantics), so the importance of conversion from one to another is artificially exaggerated,[/b]
no there ae alot of main differences between them.
That's just your opinion. :lol:
Maybe some guy wants to leave Christianity for Islam because he wants to have many wives?

really? it is better to be non moslem and stay oway from islam if a guy really has such kind of ambitions.
No, it's not, because Christianity and Judaism only allow a man one wife nowadays and only Islam allows men to have sex with multiple women. So a man who likes to do that AND wants to be a religious person is better off accepting Islam.
Or some woman wants to convert from Islam to Christianity because she wants to pray together with her husband and sons?

i dont understand your point ? where islam bans women to pray together with his sons and husband?
It is my understanding that in mosques women and men pray in separate areas, so if a woman wanted to pray there next to her husband and sons she wouldn't be able to. This is supported by TV footage we frequently see broadcast from mosques around religious holidays and by accounts of my Moslem in-laws who attend a mosque every major holiday. But feel free to correct me if I (and my in-laws and journalists) are wrong.

[Guardian]

That's just your opinion. :lol:

No, it's not, because Christianity and Judaism only allow a man one wife nowadays and only Islam allows men to have sex with multiple women. So a man who likes to do that AND wants to be a religious person is better off accepting Islam.

It is my understanding that in mosques women and men pray in separate areas, so if a woman wanted to pray there next to her husband and sons she wouldn't be able to. This is supported by TV footage we frequently see broadcast from mosques around religious holidays and by accounts of my Moslem in-laws who attend a mosque every major holiday. But feel free to correct me if I (and my in-laws and journalists) are wrong.

I would strongly recommend you to learn about Islam (first of all) rather than just confronting Islam. Mostly, you are trying to find faults that i'm sure u just don't need or not really interested.

I fully agree, that's the freedom of ur speech, ur right to debate....but plz don't make dabtes where u don't know the cornerstones of the pointed subject.

Regards,
Joe

[trigger-happy]

Joe,

I would strongly recommend that you learn to process the information that you read and think before you post: I was responding to a thread addressed directly to me and not doing so would mean ignoring Administrator's questions. You wouldn't want me to be rude to Admin, would you now? :lol:

You quoted my entire post but didn't have anything to say on any of the points I've made. If anything in that post is contrary to the fact, please feel free to correct me. Otherwise, your entire message is just a brain fart.

Take care,
trigger-happy

[SmIlIk]

That's just your opinion. :lol:

No, it's not, because Christianity and Judaism only allow a man one wife nowadays and only Islam allows men to have sex with multiple women. So a man who likes to do that AND wants to be a religious person is better off accepting Islam.


Doooooooooot wrong :) Who told you or where did you read that islam allows men to have "sex" with multipe women, please, show me the sourse. Did you mean marriage by sex? Allowing having sex and allowing getting married is two different things, at least for me :)

Although theoretically permitted, polygamy is practically almost impossible to be qualified for Muslims.

Direct Verse from Quran if you will ask for the proof; You may see that Allah (c.c.) orders men to be fair and treat equaly his wives, if not never marry more than one (woman):

Surai An-Nisa Verse number 3:
If ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans, Marry women of your choice, Two or three or four; but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one , or (a captive) that your right hands possess, that will be more suitable, to prevent you from doing injustice.

From here comes the next verse indicating that men never will be able to treat his wives fairly. Moreoever, you can see that in real life too. Even parents don't "love" their kids equaly.

Same Sura and 129 verse:

Ye are never able to be fair and just as between women, even if it is your ardent desire: But turn not away (from a woman) altogether, so as to leave her (as it were) hanging (in the air). If ye come to a friendly understanding, and practise self-restraint, Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.

While praying muslim do couple of "exersizes" that requires kneeling. During what I feel more comfortabe praying with ladies than in men's room with 100 men sitting by me and by my husband :) If I will want to pray by my husband I will gladly do it at home in peace and without extra eyes. For me it is all about convinience.

I've seen mosques where women pray right behind men without any physical borders in the same room with their husbands and sons. Hence, women and men are allowed to pray togather...

[SmIlIk]

Odno vspomnila :) yest' V biblii punkti (verses) gde govoritsa pro marrying infinite number of women. Tol'ko neznayu kakoy iz Bible vi chitali :)

[ganjubas]

Smilik respect!

When I go to friday prayers, I see a lot of women who pray behind us. People come with their little kids who lough, jump and play when their parents pray, which is funny and nice.

Having sex with multiple women is the usual "bug" that non-believers find in our religion. But, as Smilik mentioned, it is so complicated to have more than one wife that a smart person would never do that. I read in a book called "Life of Mohammed" that even the prophet's wives caused problems, although the book was written by a non-muslim and may not be an empirical source.

[Joha]

:salam:

Well who wants his Wife to be in a position of Prostration among other men? Me ? Never :) I pray with my family at home every Evening for Magrib, Isha and in the Morning for Fajr. It seems like I spent 3 prayers out of 5 at home with Family dont I? ;)

PS. Allah swt says in Quran that he has Perfected Islam For Us.

[Black]

Sorry for interrupting you.
Saying "Judaism, Cristianity and Islam all the same" is like saying "MS DOS, Norton Commander and Windows are the same" . Of course, for the farmer (kolhoznik) from the 17th brigade of "Oq oltin" kolhoz MS DOS, Norton Commander and Windows are the same. ( I am not insulting "kolhoznik", I am just point out to the fact that he does not understand and use at all these things, that's why for him they have no difference).

Women can pray with husbands and children as much as they want, ecpecially if we consider making dua (supplication) as praying (as in other religions praying consist only making supplications and/or reading books by someone (priest) while others (men, women, children, old ppl) just sit togegher and listen to him). WE (Muslims) do have such "prayers" (men and women, children together) 50 times a day.

[tarafdor]

Among the numerous misconceptions about Islam, is that it is the only religion that permits polygamy, and that Muslims are the only people who might practice it. On the contrary, polygamy was never prohibited in Judaism and Christianity, until a few centuries ago. Besides the fact that most of the prophets mentioned in the Old Testament were polygamous - both Jews and Christians practiced polygamy throughout a long period of their history. However, when examining the teachings of both faiths, neither Christianity nor Judaism provided clear guidelines and regulations in regards to this practice.

In contrast with Judaism and Christianity, Islam dealt with polygamy more clearly. It provides legal requirements that restrain it, to a certain extent and this amounted to the discouragement of practicing polygamy.

First of all, you should know that the general norm in Islam is monogamy and not polygamy. Also, the position of Islam towards polygamy is that it is neither mandatory nor encouraged, but merely permitted. More importantly, the permission to practice polygamy is associated with compassion towards widows and orphans, and is not associated with mere sexual satisfaction. Allah says:

If ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans, Marry women of your choice, Two or three or four; but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one, or (a captive) that your right hands possess, that will be more suitable, to prevent you from doing injustice.


Surah 4 Verse 3