any aliens among us?!

[chicagoan]

salams,

Many naive people still believe in UFOs and aliens...When I was a child, I was also dreaming to meet aliens in the future, and ride their plate-like cars.

However, if there was any life, anywhere, ALLAH would have revealed it through his prophets.

Allah tells us of the following kinds of life in the Universe:

1) Angels (made of light)
2) Jinn (made of smokeless fire, e.g. Shaytan)
3) Insan (made of clay) and all the flora and fauna of the Planet Earth.

No aliens, no apes turning into human beings (in fact, at one place in Qur'an, Allah tells that HE turned some disobedient human beings into monkeys - that is interesting, because I read recently that scientists who compared DNA of humans and monkeys concluded that monkey DNA was a derivative of human DNA, not vica versa!). No life in other parts of the universe. The earth is unique, the life is unique.

We must not search life on other corners of this immense universe, but search for ALLAH in all that we see..and do.....

If one does not believe that ALLAH is all knowing, he/she will make up things in one's mind, mistake angels and jinn for aliens.

Even though Angels and Jinn are invisible to us most of the time, by the wisdom of ALLAH, they sometimes appear in physical shape (human, or animal such as snake).

Please share what you know about the JINN and Angels.


Allohu A'lam,

mr

[Administrator]

any aliens among us?!

yes,
kamina bu yerda sizning orangizda :)

[Mona Lisa]

Sadly, I don't believe in UFOs, aliens or Jinns of any sort, shape, colour, size .... :)
So I know nothing about them!

[Administrator]

Sadly, I don't believe in UFOs, aliens or Jinns of any sort, shape, colour, size .... :)
So I know nothing about them!
i cant give you any info about existance of aliens :)
but here
http://www.kurandaara.com/oku.php?meal=4&sureno=72&keyword=%20jin&lang=english

koran clearly explains existance of jeans.

[Administrator]

i think jins are some kind of creations that is made from energy.(as koran say they are made from fire)
and sometimes their actions as seen as para-normal activity by people in the world.americans call them aliens russians as 'domovoy's ..etc..

[Mona Lisa]

koran clearly explains existance of jeans.
Jeans which brand Levi's? :D Indeed, it does exist.
Unbelievable, people knew such sort of clothing at that time? I guess it was pretty popular :P

[Administrator]

Jeans which brand Levi's? :D Indeed, it does exist.
Unbelievable, people knew such sort of clothing at that time? I guess it was pretty popular :P
sorry for mistake :(
anyway it is read as jiiiiiiiiiiinsss
..........................................

[Maroon]

Chicagoan, first tell me something before I can ask you my question because I do not know. The question is:Does the Koran mention EVERYTHING?Every living being and thing?

[Webbie]

Dont believe in aliens, nor in jins of any sort. If you people believe in jins, plz inform me, what do they do? and where can i find them? :rolleyes:

[Maroon]

Dont believe in aliens, nor in jins of any sort. If you people believe in jins, plz inform me, what do they do? and where can i find them? :rolleyes:

Webgirl, i do not think with jin they meant the direct sense of it.

[Webbie]

Webgirl, i do not think with jin they meant the direct sense of it.

aaa, hehe /me so out of it...thanx Shopgirl ;)

[Administrator]

Dont believe in aliens, nor in jins of any sort. If you people believe in jins, plz inform me, what do they do? and where can i find them? :rolleyes:
why dont you yourself read koran? :rolleyes:

[Administrator]

as far as i know word jin arabic means 'not seen'

[Administrator]

we dont see earth graviation magnetic powers ... but they exists

[tarafdor]

Chicagoan, first tell me something before I can ask you my question because I do not know. The question is:Does the Koran mention EVERYTHING?Every living being and thing?Absolutely Yes. :lol: Nothing left apart. If I'm wrong just corret me plz.
And Allah swt knows the best.

[tarafdor]

Dont believe in aliens, nor in jins of any sort. If you people believe in jins, plz inform me, what do they do? and where can i find them? :rolleyes:Jinns
"waman lla yujib daaiyallaahi falaysa bimu'jizin fill arzi walaysa lahu min dunihi awliyaa; ulaaikaa fi zalaalin moobeen".
"and whoever does not accept the divine caller, he shall not escape in the earth and he shall not have guardians besides him; these are in manifest error."

Once the holy prophet Muhammad (SAW) once went to the market place, akkaza along with zaid bin haritha to preach the message of islam, on his way back to mecca he stayed in the valley of najbah for the night and when he recited the holy qur'an, there also assembled some jinns, one of the groups carried the message of islam to his kind.
It is said that among the jinns there are believers and disbelievers, good and wicked. it is a proof positive that the holy prophet was a warner to the jinns as well as to the mankind.

It is an assurance and an assertion that none can stop the flourishing of the truth and the one who attempts to do it, shall lose the sympathy of the others.

[MissMadyFBM]

salams,

Many naive people still believe in UFOs and aliens...When I was a child, I was also dreaming to meet aliens in the future, and ride their plate-like cars.

However, if there was any life, anywhere, ALLAH would have revealed it through his prophets.

Allah tells us of the following kinds of life in the Universe:

1) Angels (made of light)
2) Jinn (made of smokeless fire, e.g. Shaytan)
3) Insan (made of clay) and all the flora and fauna of the Planet Earth.

No aliens, no apes turning into human beings (in fact, at one place in Qur'an, Allah tells that HE turned some disobedient human beings into monkeys - that is interesting, because I read recently that scientists who compared DNA of humans and monkeys concluded that monkey DNA was a derivative of human DNA, not vica versa!). No life in other parts of the universe. The earth is unique, the life is unique.

We must not search life on other corners of this immense universe, but search for ALLAH in all that we see..and do.....

If one does not believe that ALLAH is all knowing, he/she will make up things in one's mind, mistake angels and jinn for aliens.

Even though Angels and Jinn are invisible to us most of the time, by the wisdom of ALLAH, they sometimes appear in physical shape (human, or animal such as snake).

Please share what you know about the JINN and Angels.


Allohu A'lam,

mr
Assalomu alaykum!

Chicagoen u r tellin that u don't believe in the existence of UFOs.

But what about the creation of 18,000 worlds but ours by the Allah?

Have u heard about it?

tnx for the reply

[tarafdor]

Dear Miss,

If you don't mind let me answer to this question. It seems boring, but have patient to read all very carefully, then you'll find clue to your question. Thanks alot. Have a nice day.


THE BASIC PROCESS OF THE FORMATION OF THE UNIVERSE AND THE RESULTING COMPOSITION OF THE WORLDS
By Dr. Maurice Bucaille

The Qur'an presents in two verses a brief synthesis of the phenomena that constituted the basic
process of the formation of the Universe.
---sura 21, verse 30:
"Do not the Unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were joined together, then We clove them
asunder and We got every living thing out of the water. Will they not then believe?"
---sura 41, verse 11: God orders the Prophet to speak after inviting him to reflect on the subject of the
earth's creation:
"Moreover (God) turned to the Heaven when it was smoke and said to it and to the earth..."
There then follow the orders to submit.
The important things to remember at present are the following:
a) The statement of the existence of a gaseous mass with fine particles, for this is how the word 'smoke'
(dukan in Arabic) is to be interpreted. Smoke is generally made up of a gaseous substratum, plus, in more
or less stable suspension, fine particles that may belong to solid and even liquid states of matter at high
or low temperature;
b) The reference to a separation process (fatq) of an primary single mass whose elements were initially
fused together (ratq). It must be noted that in Arabic 'fatq' is the action of breaking, diffusing, separating,
and that 'ratq' is the action of fusing or binding together elements to make a homogenous whole.
This concept of the separation of a whole into several parts is noted in other passages of the Book
with reference to multiple worlds. The first verse of the first sura in the Qur'an proclaims, after the
opening invocation, the following: "In the name of God, the Beneficent, the Merciful", "Praise be to God,
Lord of the Worlds."
The terms 'worlds' reappears dozens of times in the Qur'an. The Heavens are referred to as
multiple as well, not only on account of their plural form, but also because of their symbolic
numerical quantity: 7.
This number is used 24 times throughout the Qur'an for various numerical quantities. It often
carries the meaning of 'many' although we do not know exactly why this meaning of the figure was used.
The Greeks and Romans also seem to have used the number 7 to mean an undefined idea of plurality. In
the Qur'an, the number 7 refers to the Heavens themselves (samawat). It alone is understood to mean
'Heavens'. The 7 roads of the Heavens are mentioned once:
--sura 2, verse 29:
"(God) is the One Who created for you all that is on the earth. Moreover He turned to the heaven and
fashioned seven heavens with harmony. He is Full of Knowledge of all things."
--sura 23, verse 17:
"And We have created above you seven paths: We have never been unmindful of the Creation."
--sura 67, verse 3:
"(God) is the One -who created seven heavens one above another. Thou canst see no fault in the creation
of the Beneficent. Turn the vision again! Canst thou see any rift?"
--sura 71, verse 15-16:
"Did you see how God created seven heavens one above another and made the moon a light therein and
made the sun a lamp?"
--sura 78, verse 12:
"We have built above you seven strong (heavens) and placed a blazing lamp."
Here the blazing lamp is the Sun.
The commentators on the Qur'an are in agreement on all these verses: the number 7 means no
more than plurality.
There are therefore many Heavens and Earths, and it comes as no small surprise to the reader of
the Qur'an to find that earths such as our own may be found in the Universe, a fact that has not
yet been verified by man in our time.
Verse 12 of sura 65 does however predict the following:
"God is the One Who created seven heavens and of the earth (ard) a similar number. The
Command descends among them so that you know that God has power over all things and comprehends
all things in His knowledge."
Since 7 indicates an indefinite plurality (as we have seen), it is possible to conclude that the
Qur'anic text clearly indicates the existence of more than one single Earth, our own Earth (ard) ; there are
others like it in the Universe.
Another observation which may surprise the Twentieth century reader of the Qur'an is the fact
that verses refer to three groups of things created, i.e.
--things in the Heavens
--things on the Earth
--things between the Heavens and the Earth
Here are several of these verses:
--sura 20, verse 6;
"To Him (God) belongs what is in the heavens, on earth, between them and beneath the soil."
--sura 25, verse 59:
"...the One Who created the heavens, the earth and what is between them in six periods."
--sura 32, verse 4:
"God is the One Who created the heavens, the earth and what is between them in six periods."
--sura 50, verse 38:
"We created the heavens, the earth and what is between them in six periods, and no weariness touched
Us."
The reference in the Qur'an to 'what is between the Heavens and the Earth' is again to be found in
the following verses: sura 21, verse 16; sura 44, verses 7 and 38; sura 78, verse 37; sura 15,
verse 85; sura 46, verse 3; sura 43, verse 85.
1) Existence of six periods for the Creation in general.
2) Interlocking of stages in the Creation of the Heavens and the Earth.
3) Creation of the Universe out of an initially unique mass forming a block that subsequently split up.
4) Plurality of the Heavens and of the Earths
5) Existence of an intermediary creation 'between the Heavens and the Earth'.

[tarafdor]

Some Unmistakable Signs of the Creator

Allah said in the Quran:

53. We* (Allah) shall show them Our Signs on the horizons and within themselves, until it becomes clear to them that it is the Truth. Is it not sufficient that the Lord is Witness over all things?

(41:53)

* One of the usages of 'we' in Arabic is for glorifying and indicating the greatness of a person. Here it indicates greatness and not plurality.

We live in an amazing universe. It is a universe peculiarly balanced, and purposefully tempered as if to provide a safe host for living creatures.

According to modern astronomers, the universe is expanding. They hold that if gravity had been only slightly stronger, it would have overtaken expansion very early and caused the universe to collapse. Had gravity been slightly weaker, universe expansion would have become a runaway process, not allowing time for the formation of galaxies and stars.

If either of these had occurred, there would never have been an Earth on which creatures could live. This universe seems designed, even meticulously tailored to provide suitable conditions for living. If other basic ratios and constants had been just slightly different, the universe would not have been favorable to our existence.

If, for instance, the strong and weak nuclear forces were slightly stronger relative to the electromagnetic forces, hydrogen would not exist in its ordinary form. This would mean that heavier elements, such as carbon and oxygen - two of the essential building blocks of life - would never have existed.

The strength of gravity is crucial to the existence of life in the universe in another way. If it were weaker, then it could not crush the material in a star the size of the Sun with enough force to ignite its thermonuclear reactions. Only very massive stars would shine, and such stars would probably have too short lifespan to allow for the development of life.

These indications that the universe has been arranged to favor the appearance and survival of life has been taken very seriously by certain scientists. Prominent among them is astronomer Brandon Carter. Modern science estimates that it has taken 4 billion years for human beings to evolve from unicellular life forms. Carter has calculated that the average period for any evolution of this magnitude should take much longer - about 10 billion years. That is longer than the lifespan of a Sun-sized star, and much longer than the period of life-favorable conditions on Earth.

It would seem that intelligent life appeared on Earth despite its high improbability. We are again pulled towards recognizing the Creator.

[Alouddin]

tarafdor, al-shia??? are you a shiite? (note: just curiosity)

[tarafdor]

No, I'm not. I'm everywhere visiting all links, where Allah says me to be. I'm looking for every possible counter-arguments. If it's wrong just prove it then let me delete it brother, may Allah forgive me. Open your eyes, educate yourself, don't sit in one place.
So I can post you anything from the christian or jewish site, then you'll ask me are you jewish or christian?

Ma assalama

[adagio]

hi , everybody
the audience is mix of ones who bileive in god and who don't
so i fact that i read in Argumenti i Fakti , a news paper published in russia
it was , if i am not mistaken, in the spring of 1997 or 1998, Months of March or February. An ex Major of KGB : The UFO and snejniy chelovek were created in order to mislead the population.coz in 1980 the economy was getting worse and peole were more talking bot problems of social life; So KGB was ordered to mislead and we created these topics and people began talking bot this.
2 thing, look to USA, a good example of manipulation Cahney says " oh everything is under control, then 1 week late Bush says" there is high porbabilty f terror attacks? peole are afraid so poll for Bush rises. Its games of politics
3^point. If one reads shiite sources it does not mean he is shiit. IF u read any intellectual sources it just enables u better differentiate between sources.
there is a saying/ keep ur enemy near to you so that u will know everything bot him! So read any possible and useful source, but try to not to be catched !

[Mona Lisa]

An ex Major of KGB : The UFO and snejniy chelovek were created in order to mislead the population.coz in 1980 the economy was getting worse and peole were more talking bot problems of social life; So KGB was ordered to mislead and we created these topics and people began talking bot this.

Hmm that is highly debatable. Creation of UFO rumors can not possibly have 'calming' effect on socio-economic problems. Even if it was created by KGB there others who would check against them. That's my view anyway.

[xlamer]

aliens do exist! nobody believes me but i have even been in contact with couple of them! here is the proof .... --->

[Maroon]

Is that your wife? :twisted:

[xlamer]

Is that your wife? :twisted:i am not married! why are you asking? :twisted:

[Maroon]

xlamer, whatever.

[Webbie]

aliens do exist! nobody believes me but i have even been in contact with couple of them! here is the proof .... --->

that's just corny... :rolleyes:

[xlamer]

xlamer, whatever.nu zachem togda srazu "is that your wife?" yaj poshutit' hotel! eeeh! :(