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Fortunato
09-22-2004, 05:38 AM
Hello all
Am very interested in the Energy of Uzbekistan, would like to know if the electricity is too high, and if there is a possibility to make more investment in the country, do Uzbekistan live some black out, and what about the gas price and electricity price in the country?
Answer in Russian language are accepetd too
sorry its corrected
Desperado
09-22-2004, 05:51 AM
Hello all
Am very interested in the Energy of Uzbakistan, would like to know if the electricity is too high, and if there is a possibility to make more investment in the country, do Uzbakistan live some black out, and what about the gas price and electricity price in the country?
Hi,
whoever you are my country's name is spelled 'UZBEKISTAN' in english and 'O'ZBEKISTON' in uzbek. I strongly advise you to correct it immediately. Your 'misspelling' is an insult either done by mistake or intentionally.
Fortunato
09-22-2004, 06:07 AM
Hi,
whoever you are my country's name is spelled 'UZBEKISTAN' in english and 'O'ZBEKISTON' in uzbek. I strongly advise you to correct it immediately. Your 'misspelling' is an insult either done by mistake or intentionally.
Hello desperado!
Please do not be so desesperate, it just a typing error, and Uzbekistan is still in the same geographical location as before, so It was not intentionally, beside world "Uzbakistan" does not mean anything BAD....so please cool down.
You could call my country FRANCE or FRENCE it does not bother me that much.......
take care
Administrator
09-22-2004, 06:13 AM
Electrecity in uzbekistan is 20 times cheaper than it cost turkey.
Gaz is almost free coz in most areas where we use natural gaz it is still
paid standart amount of money for unlimited use of it. But in some place there is a counter for gaz but it is also very cheap.
Desperado
09-22-2004, 06:16 AM
'uzbak' is used by some iranians and tadjiks to insult uzbek people. this is a little info in case if you did not know it.
Fortunato
09-22-2004, 06:19 AM
Electrecity in uzbekistan is 20 times cheaper than it cost turkey.
Gaz is almost free coz in most areas where we use natural gaz it is still
paid standart amount of money for unlimited use of it. But in some place there is a counter for gaz but it is also very cheap.
Hello Admin
Thanks a lot for your quick input, if i calculate correctly, so the lectricity price is 0,4 cent/kWh, because in Turkey the price is arround 8 cent/kWh, that´s make it really cheap!!
anyway, once more thanks for your input sir
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Administrator
09-22-2004, 06:22 AM
Hello Admin
Thanks a lot for your quick input, if i calculate correctly, so the lectricity price is 0,4 cent/kWh, because in Turkey the price is arround 8 cent/kWh, that´s make it really cheap!!
anyway, once more thanks for your input sir
F
yes one year ago it was so i hope it didn't change.
Fortunato
09-22-2004, 06:28 AM
'uzbak' is used by some iranians and tadjiks to insult uzbek people. this is a little info in case if you did not know it.
I`m sorry I did not knew that
in your place I would call those who try to provocate you, as to simply reciprocatly prononce there country name as "Ironian" and "Todjikistone" :D ....Just be sure that neither of you will end in Hospital..........
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vassili
09-22-2004, 11:00 AM
Hello all
Am very interested in the Energy of Uzbekistan, would like to know if the electricity is too high, and if there is a possibility to make more investment in the country, do Uzbekistan live some black out, and what about the gas price and electricity price in the country?
Answer in Russian language are accepetd too
sorry its corrected
Hey man we welcome you if there is any investment to do in the country whether it is energy or industrial issue...
Fortunato
09-23-2004, 12:09 AM
Hey man we welcome you if there is any investment to do in the country whether it is energy or industrial issue...
Hello Vassili
Thanks for welcoming me, Yes we want to help in Electricity production posibility in Europe its called "cogeneration" mean production of both "electricity + heat" by mean of gas,....BUT before putting your project to action it must be first feasible, mean you need to get back your money in a short period. and produce your electricity Cheaper than what it is nowdays....but I dont think that incase of UzbEkistan we could NOT make it! as the energy price is too low.
But as the country already export the electricity, they could make money by increasing the export!!!
here some links for any enerGITIK:
but the information are not updated
http://www.bisnis.doc.gov/bisnis/isa/011105uzenen1.htm
.
http://www.converger.com/eiacab/uzbek.htm
Cheers
F.
noodles
09-23-2004, 12:41 AM
take it easy mate, it is normal for non-uzbek speakers to pronounce this word like this. Some in West, use "Uzbakistan" becauce they already know how to say "Pakistan" and just add "uz".
Many Turks, Inidans, Americans, and other nations also pronounce Uzbek as "Uzbak".
What the ****?! I don't care wether it's normal for him or not but I do care that it's not normal for me that he says "Uzbak[istan]". That shows how that person illiteral is. It's better not to say a word than saying it wrong. So watch your language "Monsieur le Français"
Desperado
09-23-2004, 02:08 AM
orqalaringa o'tib ketsayam its normaal deb yuraverila
Fortunato
09-23-2004, 02:58 AM
What the ****?! I don't care wether it's normal for him or not but I do care that it's not normal for me that he says "Uzbak[istan]". That shows how that person illiteral is. It's better not to say a word than saying it wrong. So watch your language "Monsieur le Français"Hello!!! Ohhh What a Genius!!! ....woow you impress me :) :rolleyes: , you are so educate person, and I can read how you you already start your post, .....yes am "illitrate"
I have already said it was "a typing error"......but as you insist, SO please read the web and see how many illitrate people are making EVEN dictionaries.....
(http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&q=%22UZBAK%22&btnG=Search)
Noun
1.
Uzbak - a member of a Turkic people of Uzbekistan and neighboring areas
Usbeg (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Usbeg), Usbek (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Usbek), Uzbeg (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Uzbeg), Uzbek (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Uzbek)
Turki (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Turki) - any member of the peoples speaking a Turkic language
2.
Uzbak - the Turkic language spoken by the Uzbek people
Usbeg (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Usbeg), Usbek (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Usbek), Uzbeg (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Uzbeg), Uzbek (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Uzbek)
Turkic (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Turkic), Turkic language (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Turkic%20language), Turko-Tatar (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Turko-Tatar), Turki (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Turki) - a subfamily of Altaic languages
<H3 style="MARGIN: auto 0cm">http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&q=%22UZBAK%22&btnG=Search (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&q=%22UZBAK%22&btnG=Search)
http://www.wordreference.com/definition/Uzbak.htm
</H3>http://www.dictionary.net/uzbek
Biographical Data :
Name :
Abdullah Khan Uzbak
Period :
- 1597
Biographical detail :
A descendant of Chingiz Khan. He ascended the throne of Samarqand in 1582. Died at the age of 66.
http://www.salaam.co.uk/knowledge/biography/viewentry.php?id=75 (http://www.salaam.co.uk/knowledge/biography/viewentry.php?id=75)
http://www.afghanan.net/afghanistan/sites/moghuls.htm
If you can make some input about electricity I will reply you, in the opposite you will be ingnored
F.
Crazy Diamond
09-23-2004, 04:28 AM
Hello all
Am very interested in the Energy of Uzbekistan, would like to know if the electricity is too high, and if there is a possibility to make more investment in the country, do Uzbekistan live some black out, and what about the gas price and electricity price in the country?
Answer in Russian language are accepetd too
sorry its corrected
Energy-related issues are very important to our region. The country has reached energy self-sufficiency after 1991. However, Uzbekistan is struggling to maintain equipment (old soviet technologies). The government understands the problem and currently working on renovation of power plants (with foreign investors/contractors). They are also looking into efficient production and usage of electricity, tightening control over the sector. Renewable energy sources are not being fully explored, unfortunately.
Fossil fuels are the main source of electricity production (about 80%), following by hydro (the rest). Uzbekistan exports about 5.600 MW and imports about 6.600 MW (depending on peak demand), total installed capacity around 11,200 MW.
You can find more information online, although not always reliable. Also check out Uzbeknefteprodukt and Uztransgaz.
tarafdor
09-23-2004, 05:02 AM
'uzbak' is used by some iranians and tadjiks to insult uzbek people. this is a little info in case if you did not know it.
Usually all moslem states call Uzbekistan as Uzbakiston, especially arabs. Correct me me if I'm wrong.
Ma assalama
tarafdor
09-23-2004, 05:06 AM
we say E'rOn, not IrAn. ;)
It's not E'ron, it should be Eron. :lol:
noodles
09-23-2004, 05:29 AM
I don't give a damn how other people call but it's incorrect the way they're calling. That's why next time be more careful with this.
Maroon
09-23-2004, 05:37 AM
Genius,
Vse po drugomu vseh nazivaut depending on the language. We say Greece and the Greek say Ellada or Ellas. I chto?Kakaya raznica Uzbek ili Uzbak.
Deutsch nazivaem Nemec.
Poetomu chill.
Esho za etogo zdes ustraivat razborki.
Udachi.
tarafdor
09-23-2004, 05:44 AM
I don't give a damn how other people call but it's incorrect the way they're calling. That's why next time be more careful with this.
You're so naive and funny.
So let's send official note to our Foreign Affairs, they should immediately inform all moslem and arabs Embassies in Uzbekistan, the Embassies should send note to all their governments, governments should inform Tv and newspapers to appeal for their countrymates to correct so called misspelling.
And vice-verca, Majaristan(Hungary), Farangiston(France), Yunoniston(Greece) and other states will send the same note to Uzbekistan.
Desperado
09-23-2004, 05:59 AM
obbo uzbaklar :)
mayli O'zbekistonni 'Uzbakistan' o'zbekni 'uzbak' desa osmon qulab yerga tushibdimi, o'zbekni 'baran' deganlarigayam chidab yurimmizu.
Fortunato
09-23-2004, 06:28 AM
Energy-related issues are very important to our region. The country has reached energy self-sufficiency after 1991. However, Uzbekistan is struggling to maintain equipment (old soviet technologies). The government understands the problem and currently working on renovation of power plants (with foreign investors/contractors). They are also looking into efficient production and usage of electricity, tightening control over the sector. Renewable energy sources are not being fully explored, unfortunately.
Fossil fuels are the main source of electricity production (about 80%), following by hydro (the rest). Uzbekistan exports about 5.600 MW and imports about 6.600 MW (depending on peak demand), total installed capacity around 11,200 MW.
You can find more information online, although not always reliable. Also check out Uzbeknefteprodukt and Uztransgaz.Dear Crazy Diamond
Many thanks for your input too, Yeah....Energy in general, and "Energy safety" of each country is the base of independance and engine for prosperity of any nation, just look at Europe and U.S they build there system so that they have at least +30% safety capacity
The figure you gave are brilliants:
1- When I found out that Uzbekistan trade (export import) with over (50% = arrond 6000 MWh) of it (capacity= 11000+MWh), and
2- When I know that the capacity of 11000MWh+ is old, I imagine that there are losses, mostly technical = at leat 2000 MWh (if we take 20%), and
3- when I see that georaphically Uzbekistan is located close to China and Russia
4- When I see the capacity and gas reserve in Uzbekistan
I just wonder why these who are taking decision should not forget the idea of how to sales the gas? actually it take a decate of political games and seldom can be build, but instead concentrate and how to produce sheap electricty and sales it all arround via alreday existing high voltage line connection, I mean to China, Russia, and to the south.....etc......
F.
Fortunato
09-23-2004, 06:35 AM
I don't give a damn how other people call but it's incorrect the way they're calling. That's why next time be more careful with this.
---..:listen: ....-
Fortunato
09-23-2004, 06:39 AM
You're so naive and funny.
So let's send official note to our Foreign Affairs, they should immediately inform all moslem and arabs Embassies in Uzbekistan, the Embassies should send note to all their governments, governments should inform Tv and newspapers to appeal for their countrymates to correct so called misspelling.
And vice-verca, Majaristan(Hungary), Farangiston(France), Yunoniston(Greece) and other states will send the same note to Uzbekistan.
Good logics
And think about someone forget the "a" in Hungary.............:war:
Fortunato
09-23-2004, 06:43 AM
Genius,
Vse po drugomu vseh nazivaut depending on the language. We say Greece and the Greek say Ellada or Ellas. I chto?Kakaya raznica Uzbek ili Uzbak.
Deutsch nazivaem Nemec.
Poetomu chill.
Esho za etogo zdes ustraivat razborki.
Udachi.
Shopgirl, thanks for the input, I did not understood your signature.....you know am illitrate :idee:
F.
noodles
09-23-2004, 10:16 AM
Official name is Uzbekistan - Live it or Love it.
Fortunato
09-24-2004, 06:42 AM
Anybody know the link in Uzbekistan to the
Minitery of energy?
Ministery of devellopement and reconstruction?
Thanks in advance
F.
spoon
10-04-2004, 09:25 PM
Fortunato,
http://www.google.uz/search?hl=uz&ie=UTF-8&q=ministry+of+energy+of+uzbekistan&btnG=Qidir
Fortunato
10-05-2004, 12:50 AM
Fortunato,
http://www.google.uz/search?hl=uz&ie=UTF-8&q=ministry+of+energy+of+uzbekistan&btnG=Qidir
Hello
Thankx a lot, Mr Spoon
This links will help me to get any contact number in Uzbekistan
http://www.goldenpages.uz/eng/
as I understood that ...........................Major power stations and electric grids shall be transformed into joint-stock companies, and partially offered to the foreign investors. However, Uzbekenergo will hold the control shares of those companies...............
Ciao
F.
vassili
10-05-2004, 12:42 PM
Hello Vassili
Thanks for welcoming me, Yes we want to help in Electricity production posibility in Europe its called "cogeneration" mean production of both "electricity + heat" by mean of gas,....BUT before putting your project to action it must be first feasible, mean you need to get back your money in a short period. and produce your electricity Cheaper than what it is nowdays....but I dont think that incase of UzbEkistan we could NOT make it! as the energy price is too low.
But as the country already export the electricity, they could make money by increasing the export!!!
here some links for any enerGITIK:
but the information are not updated
http://www.bisnis.doc.gov/bisnis/isa/011105uzenen1.htm
.
http://www.converger.com/eiacab/uzbek.htm
Cheers
F.
Yeap, I am aware of cogeneration, but as you said the electricity is cheap enough so they might not want to accoplish this project...
How about environmentally friendly means of generating power, such as Wind Generator. Are they too expensive to set up?
ganjubas
10-05-2004, 04:33 PM
I liked the topic. Sounds somehow persian... :twisted:
Fortunato
10-06-2004, 12:47 AM
Yeap, I am aware of cogeneration, but as you said the electricity is cheap enough so they might not want to accoplish this project...
How about environmentally friendly means of generating power, such as Wind Generator. Are they too expensive to set up?Hello Vassili
Once again thanks for your input, yes the electricity price are under heavy support from ministery of Finance in all CIS countries, the wind and solar are really clean energy but as there name indicate you firts need a high speed of wind (for wind turbines) and also a long days of sunny days (for solar units)
Today the electricity prices are so low that no one can make money out of the solar or wind power in CIS countries, further more they are very small units (about 1 MW) only
The price? ..............min 5 cent/kWh....... (so too expensive to make profit in any CIS country) even in Europe. unless you get support from the gvt.
How much does wind energy cost?
So suppose you have a high speed wind area.....
Over the last 20 years, the cost of electricity from utility-scale wind systems has dropped by more than 80%. In the early 1980s, when the first utility-scale turbines were installed, wind-generated electricity cost as much as 30 cents per kilowatt-hour. Now, state-of-the-art wind power plants can generate electricity for less than 5 cents/kWh in many parts of the U.S., a price that is competitive with new coal- or gas-fired power plants.
The National Renewable Energy Laboratory (NREL) is working with the wind industry to develop a next generation of wind turbine technology. The products from this program are expected to generate electricity at prices that will be lower still
http://www.awea.org/faq/tutorial/wwt_costs.html
Solar Energy is even more expensive............
F.
vassili
10-06-2004, 01:47 PM
Hello Vassili
Once again thanks for your input, yes the electricity price are under heavy support from ministery of Finance in all CIS countries, the wind and solar are really clean energy but as there name indicate you firts need a high speed of wind (for wind turbines) and also a long days of sunny days (for solar units)
Today the electricity prices are so low that no one can make money out of the solar or wind power in CIS countries, further more they are very small units (about 1 MW) only
The price? ..............min 5 cent/kWh....... (so too expensive to make profit in any CIS country) even in Europe. unless you get support from the gvt.
F.
That's what I guessed bro, but thanks for the info. I guess my major is close to yours, hope to keep contact w/ u.
I don't give a damn how other people call but it's incorrect the way they're calling. That's why next time be more careful with this.
ujas! Just leave it alone...
Podumaesh ne tak napisali... malo li chto...
ne pozor'te naciyu vi uzbeki ved' naoborot gostiprimnie... i vejlivie.
Stidno tovarishi, Stidno!
Hamid
10-07-2004, 06:46 AM
hello
what about nuclear enrgy, i think it is the most fficient, and produces the least waste of all (and please don't argue it is radioactive, you can always end up with non radioactive waste).
Fortunato
10-07-2004, 08:15 AM
hello
what about nuclear enrgy, i think it is the most fficient, and produces the least waste of all (and please don't argue it is radioactive, you can always end up with non radioactive waste).Hello Hamid
Thanks for your input, actually in France close to 80% of whole country electricity is produced by Nuclear Power plant, in balgium its about 50%, in Japan this percentage is about 30%, in US its only 20%. its is more or less depending on HOW much coal / oil and gas your country has!!! and mostly about the landscape of your georaphic (m.e), to have a nuclear power plant you need a huge amount of water, usually river (large very large) because the heat from the fuel rods is absorbed by water which is used to generate steam to drive the turbines that generate the electricity.
on the other hand you have a countries as Germany and sweden who decide to not have any neclear energy plant by 2020 y.
Nuclear energy disatvantage is the radioactivity because each 18 months you have to reprocess the 1/3 of the fuel volume ...., unfortunatly those reprocessing units are fews, even US has to send to France for reprocessing, also Japan is sending there waste to France they get it back after reprocessing.....
The advantage is those N-plant are Green-gas free, mean slower earth warming, furthere-more if each country will sign Kyoto protocol, thats mean that there will be more and more nuclear plant to be build, the problem the geographically dry countries can not make it as there suffer from huge water deficit.
But the dilama has just started, "Kyoto with more nuclear plant or war againt WMD :cool: "
Ciao
F.
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