What Is To Be Done?

[Desperado]

It is very obvious many of us moan about the current situation in Uzbekistan, and criticise the government policies in the spheres of politics and economy.
The situation is worsening year by year.

But lets talk about the solutions.
What are the first steps to be taken the improve the situation?

What is to be done?

all opinions are welcome.

[mehrofarin]

Well, have you got any ideas of your own?

regards,

M

[PainKiller]

Ketti qisib, soqani qilib, oqib, boshqala qilyaptiyuuu! demasdan, pora omasdan yashah kere:)

[Mona Lisa]

I[ A JL JL O D']Soliq sistemasini o'zgartirish kerak; savdo-sotiq, tijorat, tadbirkorlikga bog'liq qonunlarni o'zgartirish kerak; umuman gapiradigan bo'lsak iqtisodiyotimizni erkinlashtirish kerak !
Ehhey iqtisodda revolutsiya qivordiz - u. :D

Well it is quite difficult to make radical changes at this stage, but step by step things could be improved.
Allowance of free currency convertability was a good start.
Now, it's better to slow down to build fancy buildings for numerious banks and other government agencies. Spend that investment on SME's which could drive economy forward.
There are some solid laws and regulations in place but there is a matter of implementing it.

Basicly less of talk more of work. That's what needs to be done!

[Desperado]

Ehhey iqtisodda revolutsiya qirvodiz - u. :D

Well it is quite difficult to make radical changes at this stage, but step by step thing could be improved.
Allowance of free currency convertabity was a good start.
Now, it's better to slow down to build fancy buildings for numerious banks and other government agencies. Spend that investment on SME's which could drive economy forward.

I agree that free convertability of som was a good start. But I do not think that the money spent on a few fancy buildings can help much in revitalising SMEs :)

Our economy is poor, we do not have enough money to revitilise the economy by ourselves. There is only one way of doing it: pulling big investors!
There are some obstacles that scare foreign investors to lay their money on our economy. One of them is the twisted regulations which does not give investors a chance of doing free business and the other one is corruption among the uzbek officials.
Another problem is that our government is partially afraid of giving everything in the hands of investors and as a consequence remain heavily dependendent on their money as the matters in Kazakhistan.
On this matter, I think that government must implement new laws to ease the foreign investment. And firmly control the agencies that responsible for foreign investments.

There are some solid laws and regulations in place but there is a matter of implementing it.

I[ A JL JL O D']Soliq sistemasini o'zgartirish kerak; savdo-sotiq, tijorat, tadbirkorlikga bog'liq qonunlarni o'zgartirish kerak; umuman gapiradigan bo'lsak iqtisodiyotimizni erkinlashtirish kerak !

So, are the laws we have OK for doing business or need to be changed? Can you please you two clarify your points? :)

need to run, but will come back to the topic soon

[Prosto_Man]

Perviy shag doljen bit' takoy.
Narodu nado dat' svobodu slova. Narod ne doljen boyatsya gosudarstva. On doljen umet' govorit' vse v televidenii, v radio, v gazetah. Potom nekotorie chinovniki budut boyatsya kritiki i budut vizderjivatsya ot vzyatok itd. Eto doljen bit' pervim shagom.

[Desperado]

Perviy shag doljen bit' takoy.
Narodu nado dat' svobodu slova. Narod ne doljen boyatsya gosudarstva. On doljen umet' govorit' vse v televidenii, v radio, v gazetah. Potom nekotorie chinovniki budut boyatsya kritiki i budut vizderjivatsya ot vzyatok itd. Eto doljen bit' pervim shagom.

PM, I assume you are talking about building a democratic society. I can not disagree with you on this point. Not only freedom of expression and media is very important in building a democratic society, but at the same time they can not exist without each other.

In democratic societies reforms process much easier and smoother than in authoritarian and totalitarian societies. Democracy gives people a chance of political and economical freedom. We can talk forever about the benefits of Democracy but the time is limited and I need to be precise.

On the other hand, there is a fabulous paradox: Chinese model of development.
As a political regime, China is communistic, very strong authoritarian regime, where human rights record is low, no free flow of information, no political rights etc. But amusingly, Chinese economy is the fastest growing economy in the world.
How could be that achieved?

Of course through economical reforms!

I am not saying that we need to keep authoritarian regime, I want to say that a country can raise the living standarts without applying democracy. Important thing is producing productive economical reforms!

[ice]

I[ A JL JL O D']Mdaa, pora olmasdan yashasaku bo'ladi, ammo pora bermasdan yashashni iloji bormi ?!



Aha, topdingiz, bizlarga huddi o'sha iqtisodiy inqilob kerak !!! Mana bizlarga 90-yillarda shuncha o'qitishdi "Bizlar bozor iqtisodiyotiga revolucion yo'l bilan emas, evolucion yo'l bilan o'tishimiz kerak. Ana, Russiyaga bir ko'z tashlanglar, ular bozor iqtisodiyotiga Bizlarga qaraganda keskinroq cho'ralar, yo'llar bilan o'tdi, endi ahvolini qaranglar !" deb. A ohiri nima bo'ldi ? O'sha Sobiq Ittifoq davlatlaridan bozor iqtisodiyotiga tezroq, keskinroq, revolucion yo'llar bilan o'tgan davlatlar boshqa Bizlarga o'hshagan evolucionchilarga qaraganda ancha yahshiroq hayot kechirishyapti !ONLY GOD KNOWS WHAT WE HAVE GONNA TOMORROW

[Desperado]

ONLY GOD KNOWS WHAT WE HAVE GONNA TOMORROW


the question is not about if God knows something.

Please write here if you have something serious to say, for other things you can write somewhere else in crap topics of which this forum is full with.

[Mona Lisa]

But I do not think that the money spent on a few fancy buildings can help much in revitalising SMEs Well it is better than nothing. Those money invested on SME's has far greater effect on economy than building shiny buildings. For starters, most of them build by foreign construction Co's which in effect eating up all the foreign currency reserve. As you’ve mentioned yourself that our economy is poor which means every penny in foreign currency we have is dear.
Our economy is poor, we do not have enough money to revitalise the economy by ourselves. There is only one way of doing it: pulling big investors! Pulling big investors hmmm you mist be kidding me :) First of all, government should start investing to its own so that outsiders can see the opportunity and believe state is providing support to the local economy. You can't attract investment from outside if you don't have reasonable business/economic condition at home. Initial support and investment on SME's kind of provide first steps to build that environment and certainly the way to attract investment. At this moment in time, those things you would like to see happening in Uzb is fairly low. Those corruption, bureaucracy and other obstacles can not be eliminated easily and quickly. Furthermore, certainly foreign investors aren’t here to bear the cost and implement changes for us. Everything has to start from basics, meaning , supporting /investing to local businesses, ease trade between border countries, ensure independence of banking cos at the moment banks in Uzb closely tied to state esp when it comes to providing credits and giving financial support to businesses, encourage private investment and definitely to get rid of state owned Co’s. Then gradually create rules and regulations which support foreign investment. On this matter, I think that government must implement new laws to ease the foreign investment. And firmly control the agencies that responsible for foreign investmentsNew regulations can be drafted easily and even it could become a law. There is a problem of implementing them. Furthermore, you can create perfect law but where is that investor???
There are laws which support SMEs, government initiatives to attract foreign investment and there are tax exemptions and so on. Here is the one which supposing should protect direct foreign investment. Link (http://eng.nbu.com/about/laws/020503full.php)
I agree that current laws in Uzb aren’t perfect, even if there is a law nobody obeys it. At the moment we have big divide between government officials (from the top till bottom - end of administrative elite) and business people when it comes to following laws.
There are lots and lots of problems both administrative and economic, particularly our banking system is among the worst.

[SARDOR]

It is very obvious many of us moan about the current situation in Uzbekistan, and criticise the government policies in the spheres of politics and economy.
The situation is worsening year by year.

But lets talk about the solutions.
What are the first steps to be taken the improve the situation?

What is to be done?

all opinions are welcome.

Excellent organizational structure (freedom of speech-media), management & monitoring...

- education;

;)

[JoJ]

Perviy shag doljen bit' takoy.
Narodu nado dat' svobodu slova. Narod ne doljen boyatsya gosudarstva. On doljen umet' govorit' vse v televidenii, v radio, v gazetah. Potom nekotorie chinovniki budut boyatsya kritiki i budut vizderjivatsya ot vzyatok itd. Eto doljen bit' pervim shagom.
u nas shas ochen mnogo nezavis, radio stansii, no oni tolko muzikalniyi-kommercheskiyi i lyudiam po figu kotoruyu slushat, lish bi horoshaya muzika bilo. pochemu? potomu shto nashi lyudia znayut, shto all radio channels have the same news but, perephrased 1s. newspapers-hmmmm, eto tipa "darkchi" da, nezavisimaya? tam krome bullshit nichego netu. tiraj 50tisich, lyudi pokupayut,no ot takogo tabloida shto nibud stoyeshego jdat nestoit. tv toje h*****, foreiners cant have a right to have tv channel in uzbekistan. u nas bili lyudi kotoriyi hoteli otkrit nezavisimuyu televideniyu, i shto? nikomu letsenziyu nedali, poslali kuda nado. na verhu ponimayut shto esli u nas budet independent mass media, togda budet hana. lyudi poymut shto takoe relanaya jizn. nado pisat imenno v nashih gazetah, pokazat po nashimu kanalu shto u nas situatsiya h*****. shto bi lyudi (v pervom ocheredi chinovniki) boyalis, shto zavtra pro nih napishut, pokajut po kakomuto kanalau. ok, mojete skazat, inostranniyi mass media kajdiy den pro eto pishut, nu i cho? nashim do lampochki shto zarubejniyi govoriat. i skolko persentov naseleniya imeyut vozmojnost chitat, videt eto? pomnite jadidov, pervim delom oni sozdali gazetu. oni prekrasno znali shto etim oni pomogut razvit mirozraniya nashih lyudey.

so, if we have a independent mass media and word liberty, it will be the first step to civil society and we can see any change in economy as well. ne zria ved govoriat, shto massmedia is a mirror of demokratii.

[JoJ]

"darakchi" prinadlejit odnomu chuvaku kotoriy ranshe rabotal v apparate presidenta. eto on takje s hokimom goroda tashkenta otkril radio "poytaht". neznayu kak shas, no proshlom godu dochka presidenta hotela otkrit tv kanal. mojet uje otkrila. no, skajite mne neujeli eti lyudia shto nibud budut delat dlia uluchsheniya situatsii?

[elDoraDo]

I[ A JL JL O D']Soliq sistemasini o'zgartirish kerak; savdo-sotiq, tijorat, tadbirkorlikga bog'liq qonunlarni o'zgartirish kerak; umuman gapiradigan bo'lsak iqtisodiyotimizni erkinlashtirish kerak !


hmmm iqtiiyosdiyotga nima qipti + ana hamma chinvoniklarni boqivottiku o:shsa siz etgan jinni iqtisodiyot... to:liq tushuntirish niyatim yo::u - no tepadagilarga azgina nafs degan bilan reinvesticiya tushunchalarini o:rgatish kerak


a nachet ostalnih - pravilno - ayqnisa benzindan sloqni optashash kere...

[elDoraDo]

"darakchi" prinadlejit odnomu chuvaku kotoriy ranshe rabotal v apparate presidenta. eto on takje s hokimom goroda tashkenta otkril radio "poytaht". neznayu kak shas, no proshlom godu dochka presidenta hotela otkrit tv kanal. mojet uje otkrila. no, skajite mne neujeli eti lyudia shto nibud budut delat dlia uluchsheniya situatsii?


voobsheto daragoy moy JoJ -　tot vash chelovek s Hokimiyata - t.e. F. aka kak raz taki s G. Opa uje otrykili tv kanal/.//// kstati ya tam posle sebya ostavil 4 vypuska programmy - Naprosilis :)

govoryat uje pokazali
i am a vj now, hehe

p.s. i vse eto proishodit na tarona, t.e. u R. aka

[JoJ]

voobsheto daragoy moy JoJ -　tot vash chelovek s Hokimiyata - t.e. F. aka kak raz taki s G. Opa uje otrykili tv kanal/.//// kstati ya tam posle sebya ostavil 4 vypuska programmy - Naprosilis :)

govoryat uje pokazali
i am a vj now, hehe

p.s. i vse eto proishodit na tarona, t.e. u R. aka
hehe, U..., pontiyam evi bilande:lol: :lol: , biza botta siz kanaka programma kilganizni obsujdat kimiyomizaku;) . A tak ya je ne skazal, shto on nash chelovek:rolleyes: ?

[elDoraDo]

da ladno -

bu 4 peredachayam 1 oyda o'tadio ketadi.... keyin it ham eslamidi uni, krome menya i moih blizkih , kotorim nravitsya gorditsya mnoy


vot eto pont bro :) hehe

[Desperado]

Pulling big investors hmmm you mist be kidding me :) First of all, government should start investing to its own so that outsiders can see the opportunity and believe state is providing support to the local economy. You can't attract investment from outside if you don't have reasonable business/economic condition at home.


Actually I am not kidding, I said what I thought to be right.
I still believe that it is quite possible to pull big investors giving them assurance about fair conditions of business.
Improving the conditions for local small and medium businesses is important too. But for that state financial support needed. Government has to be at the position of meeting the financial needs of SMBs.

I think foreign investment is equally important in revitialising the state economy as local Small and Medium Business.

Furthermore, you can create perfect law but where is that investor??? .

I thought you knew about the huge foreign investor interest in Uzbekistan after we gained the independance. I remember how investors from foreign countries were interested in investing into our economy, mainly Turkish, German and British. But what happened next? Everybody knows the answer.

Investors are everywhere and waiting for their chances, you can trust me on that :)

And I quite agree that improving banking system is absolutely important. It is not possible doing without it.

[KeSha]

"darakchi" prinadlejit odnomu chuvaku kotoriy ranshe rabotal v apparate presidenta. eto on takje s hokimom goroda tashkenta otkril radio "poytaht". neznayu kak shas, no proshlom godu dochka presidenta hotela otkrit tv kanal. mojet uje otkrila. no, skajite mne neujeli eti lyudia shto nibud budut delat dlia uluchsheniya situatsii?

hi, JoJ naskolko ya znayu i proinformirovan, Radio poytaht prinadlejit odnoy companii v gorode Tashkente samaya krupnaya kompanii. A TV ne doch prezidenta hotela otkrit' a ta ja kompaniya kotoraya sponsirovaet radio Poytaht ;). No nashchet televidenie poka chto etot proekt ostanovili po neskolkimi prichinami.
Uda4i JoJ :).

[SoniTa]

the investors won't come, 'cause we by ourselves with the help of such isteric mass-media as fergana.ru or CA fill the pic of Uzbekistan with dark colors... The conditions are bad, legislation is bad, dictatorship & 10 tonns of bla-bla-bla
maybe there is some part of true, but not more than 10%... The danger of partly true info is that it considered as TRUTH, and not being it...
The conditions here is not so bad, the one can make money if he wants and has something to give in change...
and that "kind-of-free" info is bullshited by some countries who want to keep Uzb under control ... Though I can understand them... but I can't understand us who is badmouthing their own country...
Thats my view of situation

[Desperado]

the investors won't come, 'cause we by ourselves with the help of such isteric mass-media as fergana.ru or CA fill the pic of Uzbekistan with dark colors... The conditions are bad, legislation is bad, dictatorship & 10 tonns of bla-bla-bla
maybe there is some part of true, but not more than 10%... The danger of partly true info is that it considered as TRUTH, and not being it...
The conditions here is not so bad, the one can make money if he wants and has something to give in change...
and that "kind-of-free" info is bullshited by some countries who want to keep Uzb under control ... Though I can understand them... but I can't understand us who is badmouthing their own country...
Thats my view of situation

very interesting...

I do not think investors are limited on sources of information by just fergana.ru or other some wwws.
Without a doubt everybody who is interested in investing in Uzbekistan, makes a thorough research and learns the real situation by visiting the country, meeting the people, seeing the conditions by their own eyes.
To say that reading something from fergana.ru and drawing a conclusion is nonsense.

[Mona Lisa]

I'm sorry that it's little off topic.

Usually investors before going to take a project they tend to use a tool which is called coutry risk assesment. The Economist Intelligence Unit is one of the popular source of information and produces extensive risk assesment datas. Those data ranges from inflation rate to population education level. So fergana.ru is the least source of info an inverstor gathers for the potential investment project.

[WASP]

It is very obvious many of us moan about the current situation in Uzbekistan, and criticise the government policies in the spheres of politics and economy.
The situation is worsening year by year.

But lets talk about the solutions.
What are the first steps to be taken the improve the situation?

What is to be done?

all opinions are welcome.

1. Get your ass off the computer...
2. Stop spending too much time on the internet, and forum specifically...
3. Stop bringing these bull shit up over and over again...

[Desperado]

1. Get your ass off the computer...
2. Stop spending too much time on the internet, and forum specifically...
3. Stop bringing these bull shit up over and over again...

how about u getting *ucked off from this thread and find some other topic for your bull*hit?

[WASP]

all opinions are welcome.

How about you take your words back, before I smash your retard face into my dog's dirt making you eat them afterwards, and having you smell your own balls while doing so? You f-cking moron..

[JoJ]

hi, JoJ naskolko ya znayu i proinformirovan, Radio poytaht prinadlejit odnoy companii v gorode Tashkente samaya krupnaya kompanii. A TV ne doch prezidenta hotela otkrit' a ta ja kompaniya kotoraya sponsirovaet radio Poytaht ;). No nashchet televidenie poka chto etot proekt ostanovili po neskolkimi prichinami.
Uda4i JoJ :).
hi, Kesha, ya neznayu o kakoy kompanii ti govorish? Mojet eto kompaniya prinadlejit tomu cheloveku o kom ya uje govoril? pojalusta bud dobr i utachni kak nazivayetsa eto kompaniya. a v radio poytaht rabotayut moyi druzia i ya sam v kakomto smisle imel otnosheniya. No, to shto osnovateli poytahta Mr. F and mayor of Tashkent city no doubts.

tebe toje uda4i Kesha;)

[Desperado]

How about you take your words back, before I smash your retard face into my dog's dirt making you eat them afterwards, and having you smell your own balls while doing so? You f-cking moron..


u little angry prick :lol:

everytime i read u, i remember of cheap street hookers shouting out loud and behaving badly and i donno why is that

honestly i do not see myself argueing with a cheap creature.

take care and u r ignored :)

[WASP]

u little angry prick :lol:

everytime i read u, i remember of cheap street hookers shouting out loud and behaving badly and i donno why is that

honestly i do not see myself argueing with a cheap creature.

take care and u r ignored :)


Likewise you idiot, who thinks the first thing that should be done to be improve the economic stability in the country is to pull foreign investors. No.. how much more dumb can you be??? Why would I even get involved in this dumb discussion.. dude, you gotta read "Economics for DUMMIES!" Gimme your address, I amma make a special order for you. Get a life idiot... people who realy want to make any changes go out and do it..

P.S. Prick? Your papa.. beyach. :D

[Desperado]

Likewise you idiot, who thinks the first thing that should be done to be improve the economic stability in the country is to pull foreign investors. No.. how much more dumb can you be??? Why would I even get involved in this dumb discussion.. dude, you gotta read "Economics for DUMMIES!" Gimme your address, I amma make a special order for you. Get a life idiot... people who realy want to make any changes go out and do it..

P.S. Prick? Your papa.. beyach. :D


well, that post is now a little better, you are improving.

So, I have always consider myself of an avarage intelligence, and would not argue with people, who sees me as of a lower intelligence, say dummie.

I accept it. Maybe I am a dummie.

Now, I can not read well and do not understand texts from book. Dummie. what can you expect :)

You better explain me briefly your thoughts, in a simple, folk's language.

PS. i can say prick is your papa, but wont, coz I respect papas and mamas of everybody.

[WASP]

well, that post is now a little better, you are improving.

So, I have always consider myself of an avarage intelligence, and would not argue with people, who sees me as of a lower intelligence, say dummie.

I accept it. Maybe I am a dummie.

Now, I can not read well and do not understand texts from book. Dummie. what can you expect :)

You better explain me briefly your thoughts, in a simple, folk's language.

PS. i can say prick is your papa, but wont, coz I respect papas and mamas of everybody.

Now, you see, you are not even a man of your word. You said I was ignored but still kept reading my response. Which means, you have a very low self-respect, which in turn, kinda gives me a good picture of your personality.

I did not say you are a dummie, you perhaps have a good knowledge of something that I might be ignorant of, but you definetely are a dummie in Economics. And that's why I said.. I am not even gettin involved in this discussion, since I did not read any decent response that I would be interested in responding to. Dummie, got it? Good. Now, go to amazon.com, get the book and READ it, before you start economics-related threads... and next time, before you tell somebody to f*ck off, think about it. Dummie.

P.S. See.. I don't respect all papas and mamas, I respect only those who truly deserve that.

[Desperado]

Now, you see, you are not even a man of your word. You said I was ignored but still kept reading my response. Which means, you have a very low self-respect, which in turn, kinda gives me a good picture of your personality.

:lol: take it easy, I was giving you a chance, coz your next post was a lil bit more sane, and I thought worth answering. I am a generous man.

you seem so nervious boy, just take a deep breath, and get on with your life :)

I did not say you are a dummie, you perhaps have a good knowledge of something that I might be ignorant of, but you definetely are a dummie in Economics. And that's why I said.. I am not even gettin involved in this discussion, since I did not read any decent response that I would be interested in responding to. Dummie, got it? Good. .

hmm.. what da *uck r u doing here then?

P.S. See.. I don't respect all papas and mamas, I respect only those who truly deserve that.

heh, what a twister.

[WASP]

:lol: take it easy, I was giving you a chance, coz your next post was a lil bit more sane, and I thought worth answering. I am a generous man.

you seem so nervious boy, just take a deep breath, and get on with your life :)



hmm.. what da *uck r u doing here then?



heh, what a twister.

Helping my country by making dummies like you to realize that they are dummies :lol: :D

You know what.. I thought you had more decency than this, but apparently you’re not any different from vipshams or Accidentfree...

Nervous boy?? See you make false conclusions, because you never think before making them. You think you know everybody, but you don't. Admit it dummy. Now, as I said.. get a life. And don't forget to get the book... although, now I am assuming, you might need a special version of that book: "Economics for people with IQ of 70 and below." :D

Now go.. your wife is waiting.

[Wolfman]

-"Halqum" deb yonib yashayotgan ex-kommunistlarni hokimiyatdan chetlatish;
-jamiyat hayotining barcha sohalarini erkinlashtirish, nazoratchilarni sonini qisqartirish (bitta korxonani prokratura, san-epid stansiya, SNB, milisiya, soliq idoralari, qimmatli qog'ozlar nazorati, bank, hokimiyat... "NAZORAT" qiladi)
-Tekinxo'rlarni (masalan 850 ming "mentozavr"lardan kamida 2/3 qismini ishdan bo'shatish) kamaytirish;
-Mahalliy o'z ozini boshqarishga asoslangan tizimni kuchaytirish (Bizda oqsoqollar asosan chaqimchilik bilan shug'ullanadi);
-Elektron to'lov tizimini mukammallashtirish (O'zbekistonni iqtisodiyotini qoni (pul) yurishmayotgan shaloqqa o'xshataman);
-Iqtisodiy potensial va imkoniyatlarni regionlar orasida teng taqsimlash (Byudjet mablag'larini ko'kka sovurib Toshkentda quruqlikda ko'prik quravermasdan viloyatlarga ham investisiya qilish, shahar va qishloq o'rtasidagi sosial tafovutlarni qisqartirish);
-Qishloq xo'jaligi mahsulotlari narxini erkin, odilona belgilash;
-Och qoringa kamroq bayram qilish (Mustaqillik bayrami, haykallar qurish uchun milliardlab xalqni puli isrof qilinadi)...

Hullas qiliadigan ish ko'p, bu yozganlarim aysbergning uchi xalos...


Stan

[elDoraDo]

hi, JoJ naskolko ya znayu i proinformirovan, Radio poytaht prinadlejit odnoy companii v gorode Tashkente samaya krupnaya kompanii. A TV ne doch prezidenta hotela otkrit' a ta ja kompaniya kotoraya sponsirovaet radio Poytaht ;). No nashchet televidenie poka chto etot proekt ostanovili po neskolkimi prichinami.
Uda4i JoJ :).


go and collect some more new information or read the post before ;)

sorry POSTS

[Legend]

It is very obvious many of us moan about the current situation in Uzbekistan, and criticise the government policies in the spheres of politics and economy.
The situation is worsening year by year.

But lets talk about the solutions.
What are the first steps to be taken the improve the situation?

What is to be done?

all opinions are welcome.If it it is an economy there is a lot of ways to improve,simple ones as everybody knows(investments,taking care of rate of inflation,unemployment...bla bla bla..),if it is about government policy than......u gorra shoot'em all(most of them) ;) Change totally the ruling class,put some youngsters,and take off all them old thinking ppl.
Change "THE TOP".
That's it.
Udachi.
S.R.

[Desperado]

-"Halqum" deb yonib yashayotgan ex-kommunistlarni hokimiyatdan chetlatish;
-jamiyat hayotining barcha sohalarini erkinlashtirish, nazoratchilarni sonini qisqartirish (bitta korxonani prokratura, san-epid stansiya, SNB, milisiya, soliq idoralari, qimmatli qog'ozlar nazorati, bank, hokimiyat... "NAZORAT" qiladi)
-Tekinxo'rlarni (masalan 850 ming "mentozavr"lardan kamida 2/3 qismini ishdan bo'shatish) kamaytirish;
-Mahalliy o'z ozini boshqarishga asoslangan tizimni kuchaytirish (Bizda oqsoqollar asosan chaqimchilik bilan shug'ullanadi);
-Elektron to'lov tizimini mukammallashtirish (O'zbekistonni iqtisodiyotini qoni (pul) yurishmayotgan shaloqqa o'xshataman);
-Iqtisodiy potensial va imkoniyatlarni regionlar orasida teng taqsimlash (Byudjet mablag'larini ko'kka sovurib Toshkentda quruqlikda ko'prik quravermasdan viloyatlarga ham investisiya qilish, shahar va qishloq o'rtasidagi sosial tafovutlarni qisqartirish);
-Qishloq xo'jaligi mahsulotlari narxini erkin, odilona belgilash;
-Och qoringa kamroq bayram qilish (Mustaqillik bayrami, haykallar qurish uchun milliardlab xalqni puli isrof qilinadi)...

Hullas qiliadigan ish ko'p, bu yozganlarim aysbergning uchi xalos...


Stan


Judayam to'g'ri fikrlar. Man bu narsalarga birozdan albatta kengroq to'htalib o'taman.
Thanks for honest opinions.

[Desperado]

If it it is an economy there is a lot of ways to improve,simple ones as everybody knows(investments,taking care of rate of inflation,unemployment...bla bla bla..),if it is about government policy than......u gorra shoot'em all(most of them) ;) Change totally the ruling class,put some youngsters,and take off all them old thinking ppl.
Change "THE TOP".
That's it.
Udachi.
S.R.

Thanks.
I think we are in the right direction now of diagnosing the real sickness and and when you know the problem, its easier to find the solution.

Any other ideas?

[Mona Lisa]

Elektron to'lov tizimini mukammallashtirish Simple landline phones do not work properly in Uzb. Now, how on earth you gonna have electron payment system ? :rolleyes: There is no money so even you estabilish latest version of payment system i.e. m-payment :D (transactions through mobile phones) nothing gonna change. First do something which earns you money, grows economy then everything else follows.

[Administrator]

Desperado..koproq zamonaviy bozorlarni qurish kerak !!! :D

[Desperado]

Desperado..koproq zamonaviy bozorlarni qurish kerak !!! :D

original taklif bo'ptiyu

[Desperado]

shetta jicha lirik chekinish qilamiz.

everybody has his/her own opinion regarding the sources of the existing problems in Uzbekistan and the suggestions depends on what is seen as a real problem.

1. as we have already discussed, for some, the problem in economy. the suggestions of supporting SMEs, foreign investment, solving the problems with unemployment, inflation, banking system etc. indicates that it is the economy needs to come first.

2. some have suggested that we need to improve the legislation system, making more laws that can maintain economic prosperity.

3. and the last group of suggestions was that the political system needs to be reformed. The leaders have to be changed. State institutions have to be reorganised and built in a more efficient way etc.

all of us have a clear vision of the existing problems.

Now lets have a look of what the government is up to.

Regarding the first problem, there are some intentions of improveing the economy, supporting SMEs, bringing Foreign investment, Convertability of the currency is working, some intentions to improve banking system.
But why we can not see any outcome? Why is the economy still stagnating?

Regarding creating a legislative basis for economic development and social justice. So far many laws have been made, and the read perfect. But again, they are not working, because there is no implementation.

About the last issue... It looks really comlex. Because it consists of the personnel who are responsible for solving all these problems.
It is the main issue. It positions itself in the middle of a very problematic network.

My suggestion is that one of the biggest problems lays on Inefficiency Of Cadre Policy. Our government lacks the personnel who have a real knowledge of the subject. In most of the government positions we have people who lack the sense of understanding the issue and who are absolutely not valid to deliver the expected outcomes.

[Desperado]

This post is regarding the barriers to foreign investment in Uzbekistan:

INVESTMENT BARRIERS
To be considered an enterprise with foreign investment under Uzbek law, a firm must be at least 30 percent foreign-owned and have initial foreign equity of $150,000. Normally this equity is hidden through assets such as equipment or technical expertise. Although reduced from previous levels, these capital requirements are still high enough to exclude foreign investment by small companies. The Government of Uzbekistan has postponed consideration of proposals to ease these requirements further.
U.S.-owned companies in Uzbekistan face cumbersome regulations and licensing requirements. Profit repatriation remains extremely difficult for foreign-owned companies, due to the lack of convertibility of the soum. Although the government of Uzbekistan legally adopted currency convertibility on October 15, 2003, a case has yet to arise in which foreign companies have been allowed to convert profits into hard currency for sums larger than a few hundred thousand dollars.
In the past, businesses were required to register with numerous government organizations and obtain licenses from separate entities. However, in 2001, the government of Uzbekistan attempted to introduce legislation to create a one stop shop to make the company registration process easier. These one stop shops are located in local government offices (Hokimiyats) throughout Uzbekistan and have reportedly improved individuals’ abilities to form new businesses. Unfortunately, even with the new regulations, businesses discover local and federal regulatory road blocks that force them to continue the bureaucratic process at a minimum of between five and ten locations.
Uzbekistan’s Tax Code, introduced for the first time only in 1998, lacks a few important provisions. For example, it allows no credit for VAT on capital imports, including plant, machinery and buildings. This puts firms operating in Uzbekistan at a competitive disadvantage compared to those in countries that do allow such credits. In addition, earnings of foreign-owned enterprises are subject to double taxation.
Their earnings are taxed once when earned by the enterprise in Uzbekistan and then taxed again when remitted to the foreign parent. Another significant problem in the Uzbek Tax Code involves the classification of expenses. Many expenses that are deductible for the purposes of calculating taxable profits are not deductible under the Uzbek Tax code, thereby increasing the effective profits tax burden in comparison to other countries. In most countries, expenses such as advertising and business travel are not
subject to taxation. However, in Uzbekistan, travel is not deductible and advertising is only deductible based on an archaic formula.
Two factors increase labor costs for foreign firms in Uzbekistan. Corporate income tax rates, although reduced in 2003, still total 20 percent, and the mandatory contribution for insurance from the payroll is currently 37.2 percent for 2003, a rate significantly higher than other similar countries. While most Uzbek companies do not comply with their tax duties, foreign investors generally feel obliged to adhere to the law. The government of Uzbekistan imposed minimum salary requirements in 2001 to obligate
foreign firms to pay full taxes on their employees. U.S. companies have complained that Uzbek laws are not interpreted or applied in a consistent manner. On many occasions, local officials have interpreted laws in a manner that is detrimental to individual private investors and the business community at large.

[WASP]

I won't even bother reading your post about Investment Barriers... but the major investment barrier is import/export license requirements. Our government restricts imports by means of a system of import contract registration that severely limits the availability of foreign exchange. Since 1996, the government has periodically made the system yet more restrictive, stemming the outflow of reserves by severely compressing imports. Currency restrictions are the worst of many serious obstacles to doing business in Uzbekistan.

Get the book dummie.. :lol:

[Desperado]

Things to be done to maintain free trade in Uzbekistan:

1 Import contract registration system needs to be dismantled.
2 High tariffs on imports have to be reduced.
3 The discriminatory domestic taxes on imports need to be abolished
4 Technical standards need to be brought in line with internationally accepted norms. Procedures related to the technical standards need to be streamlined.
5 Prohibitions on export of a number of commodities need to be lifted.
6 A large part of Uzbekistan’s foreign trade is conducted by the state sector. The system of centralized exports needs to be phased out to encourage the traditional exports including cotton and gold.