bivshiy zaklyuchenniy-poteryanniy dlya obshestva chelovek?

[umalucky]

bivshiye obitateli mest lisheniya svobodi-naskolko eti lyudi teryayut svoyu tsennost dlya obshestva v kotorom jivut , pochemu posle obreteniya svobodi oni vsyu ostavshuyusya jizn doljni stalkivatsa s problemami trudoustroystva i postoyanno nosit yarlik bivshego ,,ZEKA''
kak vi dumayete naskolko eto spravidlivo , i kak dolgo bilo bi spravidlivo derjat ih v takom baykote?


P.S. otkrivayu etot thread tolko dlya vniseniya nekotorogo raznoobraziya v nash forum , a to mi privikli obsujdat tolko terroristov , podhodyashiye vibori , i eshe paru troyku drugih tem.
ok , waiting for your replies



sincerely U.B.

[PainKiller]

Byvshiy zaklyuchennij, v nashem obshestve izgoy. Prilichnaya sem'ya za togo kto "Otsidel" niogda ne otdast svoyu doch'. Sestra byvshego ZEKA vsegda mozhet uslishat' v svoy adres "Okasi Otirib chiqqan!" comments. Parents cannot be proud of their family institution any more. This is how it works. Even if that was not for the fault of the guy, he is an Outlaw anyway.
Besides, Most of them get sick. For those people very hard to find job.
but anyways, worse is the situation in their personal life. :?

[lucky14]

bivshiye obitateli mest lisheniya svobodi-naskolko eti lyudi teryayut svoyu tsennost dlya obshestva v kotorom jivut , pochemu posle obreteniya svobodi oni vsyu ostavshuyusya jizn doljni stalkivatsa s problemami trudoustroystva i postoyanno nosit yarlik bivshego ,,ZEKA''
kak vi dumayete naskolko eto spravidlivo , i kak dolgo bilo bi spravidlivo derjat ih v takom baykote?


P.S. otkrivayu etot thread tolko dlya vniseniya nekotorogo raznoobraziya v nash forum , a to mi privikli obsujdat tolko terroristov , podhodyashiye vibori , i eshe paru troyku drugih tem.
ok , waiting for your replies



sincerely U.B.I think of it this way, those who actually end up getting into jails are lost for the society even before getting where they're getting. It's not even that they are lost but we, as a society, with our egoistic (sorry for mispelling) and greedy wishes lose them. Of course, there is no question in this situation that they won't be able to make up their lives after being 'away'. Plus the prisons make them worse, their hatred towards people rises more than it was before. Well, anyways, it's a tough question and the situations in the prisons all over the world are so bad and don't leave any hope for any good to come out of them.

[Vostochnaya...]

eto zavisit ot otnosheniya cheloveka k "zeku". mojno tykat' pal'cem i sheptat'sya za spinoi, kak i ostal'nie, no takje mojno popytat'sya rassmotret' lichnost' v bivshem zaklyuchennom. mejdu prochim, za britoi golovoi i nakolkami chasto skrivaetsya ochen' umnii chelovek. paradoxal'no, no naxodyas' na "zone", mnogie mudreyut, i k ix slovam stoit prislushivat'sya.
ne mogu skazat', chto "zeki" poteryani dlya obshestva. esli chelovek ne vkonec zakorenelii prestupnik, to u nego est' shansi naiti i rabotu i stat' uvajaemim chelovekom, nesmotrya na obshestvennoe mnenie. esli on silen duxom. a esli je eto chelovek myagkii, to obshestvo ego slomaet, i sdelaet vse vozmojnoe, chtobi on chuvstvoval sebya nichtojestvom. skorei vsego lyudi cheshut yazikami tol'ko dlya togo, chtobi obelit' sebya za schet lichnosti "zeka", govorya, chto "posmotrite-de, kakoi on podlec i merzavec", etim samim davaya ponyat', chto sami oni, takie belie i chistie...

[KeSha]

eh ZEKI ZEKI :?
So vsemi soglasen na 100%.....
ZEKI snimi ochen' opasno, ved oni otsideli uje mnogo let i ktomoju, mojet i oni Tubiki, kto znaet :? nu vot k primeru u menya est' sosed Kolya`aka, on otsidel mnogo let ne pomnyu skol'ko bilo no vse taki on otsidel, vot teper' to ya oposayus' snim daje razgovarivat' o chem libo, zdarovoyus' na rastoyanii.
Nu ne znayu no malo comments o nih de :? Ne hochu dalshe pisat' o nih i vse, a tak thread ochen' interesniy ;)
Beregeti sebya ot ne priyatnostey :).
Uda4i.