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Kunlardan bir kun turmush ortog`ingiz,sizga kutilmagan savol bilan murojaat qildi:......(ismingiz) ,...bir savol bersam javob beroliysanmi??,-tabiyki,siz jilmayib ,savolga savol bilan javob berasiz.:) -A, qanaqa??
umr yoldoshingiz bir oz mulohazaga borib ,deydi:
-Agar men yana bir marta oylansam......rozi bolarmiding???
Ushbu savolga javobni ushbu forumda qatnashayotgan barcha katta-yu kichik opa -singillarimizdan kutib qolamiz...
Siz nima deb javob bergan bolardingiz?? Umuman oramizda kundoshlik oshni tatib ko`ruvchilar bormikin???
Agar bor bolsa bunday ayolga ''Aziz'' erkaklarimiznning munosabati qanday???
BOBOY
10-18-2004, 10:31 PM
Kunlardan bir kun turmush ortog`ingiz,sizga kutilmagan savol bilan murojaat qildi:......(ismingiz) ,...bir savol bersam javob beroliysanmi??,-tabiyki,siz jilmayib ,savolga savol bilan javob berasiz.:) -A, qanaqa??
umr yoldoshingiz bir oz mulohazaga borib ,deydi:
-Agar men yana bir marta oylansam......rozi bolarmiding???
Ushbu savolga javobni ushbu forumda qatnashayotgan barcha katta-yu kichik opa -singillarimizdan kutib qolamiz...
Siz nima deb javob bergan bolardingiz?? Umuman oramizda kundoshlik oshni tatib ko`ruvchilar bormikin???
Agar bor bolsa bunday ayolga ''Aziz'' erkaklarimiznning munosabati qanday???
he he bu JONAJON O'ZBEKISTONIMIZANI qiynayotgan muammolardan biri deb o'ylamimanu no mani shahsiy fikrim ikkita hotinli bu DOUBLE TROBLE bo'sa kere yoki O'tkan Kunlardagi Homidni gapi rostmikin ?
QAMCHINGDAN QON TOMIB TURSA 100 TA HOTIN BILANAM TINCH YASHIVURASAN
Mona Lisa
10-18-2004, 10:37 PM
Siz nima deb javob bergan bolardingiz??
Egoistik javob: Yoq. :)
PS. 'Uzb - Problems & Solutions' is taking actively role in Family - Problems & Solutions :rolleyes: :P
Sakura
10-18-2004, 10:42 PM
[QUOTE=BOBOY]he he bu JONAJON O'ZBEKISTONIMIZANI qiynayotgan muammolardan biri deb o'ylamimanu no mani shahsiy fikrim ikkita hotinli bu DOUBLE TROBLE bo'sa kere yoki O'tkan Kunlardagi Homidni gapi rostmikin ?
QAMCHINGDAN QON TOMIB TURSA 100 TA HOTIN BILANAM TINCH YASHIVURASAN[/QUO
Mani fikrimcha, bu bu jamiyatimizdagi ,aniqrog`i unda yahshayotgan ayollarning muammosi,shuning uchun bilsa kere shu erga joylashtiorilgan..Yani kopchilik buni demokratiya deb biladi (erkaklar koproq)..yani kophotinlikni..
Lekin Homid bolaman desez ,unaqa zamonlar ''Otib ketgan '' boboy....botta qamchini orniga diplomatiyani ishlatsa 100ta aqlga zid,real hayotda 2tasini qovushtirsa boladi...ayollariz aqilli bolishi kera manimcha...yog`ee nima dedim...aksincha ahmoqroo bolishi kere...
BOBOY
10-18-2004, 10:45 PM
[QUOTE=BOBOY]he he bu JONAJON O'ZBEKISTONIMIZANI qiynayotgan muammolardan biri deb o'ylamimanu no mani shahsiy fikrim ikkita hotinli bu DOUBLE TROBLE bo'sa kere yoki O'tkan Kunlardagi Homidni gapi rostmikin ?
QAMCHINGDAN QON TOMIB TURSA 100 TA HOTIN BILANAM TINCH YASHIVURASAN[/QUO
Mani fikrimcha, bu bu jamiyatimizdagi ,aniqrog`i unda yahshayotgan ayollarning muammosi,shuning uchun bilsa kere shu erga joylashtiorilgan..Yani kopchilik buni demokratiya deb biladi (erkaklar koproq)..yani kophotinlikni..
Lekin Homid bolaman desez ,unaqa zamonlar ''Otib ketgan '' boboy....botta qamchini orniga diplomatiyani ishlatsa 100ta aqlga zid,real hayotda 2tasini qovushtirsa boladi...ayollariz aqilli bolishi kera manimcha...yog`ee nima dedim...aksincha ahmoqroo bolishi kere...
Man homid bo'laman deganim yuq Homidni strategiyasiniyam ishlatib ko'rmaganman :D manga lishniy problemani keregiyam yuq :lol:
omad
Sakura
10-18-2004, 10:48 PM
Man homid bo'laman deganim yuq Homidni strategiyasiniyam ishlatib ko'rmaganman :D manga lishniy problemani keregiyam yuq :lol:
omad...lekin chetda oz bilganimda qolmiyman ham deng...:rolleyes:
Guardian
10-18-2004, 10:49 PM
[QUOTE=BOBOY]he he bu JONAJON O'ZBEKISTONIMIZANI qiynayotgan muammolardan biri deb o'ylamimanu no mani shahsiy fikrim ikkita hotinli bu DOUBLE TROBLE bo'sa kere yoki O'tkan Kunlardagi Homidni gapi rostmikin ?
QAMCHINGDAN QON TOMIB TURSA 100 TA HOTIN BILANAM TINCH YASHIVURASAN[/QUO
Mani fikrimcha, bu bu jamiyatimizdagi ,aniqrog`i unda yahshayotgan ayollarning muammosi,shuning uchun bilsa kere shu erga joylashtiorilgan..Yani kopchilik buni demokratiya deb biladi (erkaklar koproq)..yani kophotinlikni..
Lekin Homid bolaman desez ,unaqa zamonlar ''Otib ketgan '' boboy....botta qamchini orniga diplomatiyani ishlatsa 100ta aqlga zid,real hayotda 2tasini qovushtirsa boladi...ayollariz aqilli bolishi kera manimcha...yog`ee nima dedim...aksincha ahmoqroo bolishi kere...
Can you clarify what did you say, please? :rolleyes:
Joe
Sakura
10-18-2004, 10:51 PM
Can you clarify what did you say, please? :rolleyes:
Joechto imenno Vam ne yasno?
Mona Lisa
10-18-2004, 11:00 PM
.... real hayotda 2tasini qovushtirsa boladi...ayollariz aqilli bolishi kera manimcha...yog`ee nima dedim...aksincha ahmoqroo bolishi kere...
Og'rimagan boshlaringga o'griq solib nimaga erishasilar tushunmadim. :rolleyes: Odamlar bitta hotin bilan 'Voy Dot!!!' devorishadi -yu :D
Sakura
10-18-2004, 11:04 PM
Og'rimagan boshlaringga o'griq solib nimaga erishasilar tushunmadim. :rolleyes: Odamlar bitta hotin bilan 'Voy Dot!!!' devorishadi -yu :Dshu ogritishvottide....bechorala...
Mona Lisa
10-19-2004, 12:08 AM
shu ogritishvottide....bechorala...
O'hshab turibdi o'zi :P
Hadija
10-19-2004, 12:22 AM
Kunlardan bir kun turmush ortog`ingiz,sizga kutilmagan savol bilan murojaat qildi:......(ismingiz) ,...bir savol bersam javob beroliysanmi??,-tabiyki,siz jilmayib ,savolga savol bilan javob berasiz.:) -A, qanaqa??
umr yoldoshingiz bir oz mulohazaga borib ,deydi:
-Agar men yana bir marta oylansam......rozi bolarmiding???
Ushbu savolga javobni ushbu forumda qatnashayotgan barcha katta-yu kichik opa -singillarimizdan kutib qolamiz...
Siz nima deb javob bergan bolardingiz?? Umuman oramizda kundoshlik oshni tatib ko`ruvchilar bormikin???
Agar bor bolsa bunday ayolga ''Aziz'' erkaklarimiznning munosabati qanday???
Olohni ozi asrasin degim keladikuuu..lekin taqdir degan sinovli bir tushuncha bor.....kim bilsin osha vaqtga kelib balkim yuragim ezilib,lol kundoshimga achinib maili ..men rozi deb yuborarman..
Chunki chuqur fikr qilinsa, Olloh va Paygambarimiz buyurghan barcha bajarishimiz kerak bolgan kichik amallarning tagida katta haqiqat yashiringan.Buni hozir ham isbotini korish mumkin.Man kophotinlik yhashi demoqchimasman,lekin aqlan qaralganda,bu jamiyatni buzuqlikdan,ayol va erkaklarni nopokligidan (agar ikkinchi hotinga yo deseyiz ,baribir kerelik qozig`ini topib oladi bular),etimhonalarni kopayishidan himoya qiladi.Va qolaversa Rasuli Akram(S.A.V)4 nafargacha hotin olishga huquqingiz bor deya erkalarga izn berayotganliklarida, fikrimcha yuqoridagi illatlardan himoyalanish bilan birgalikda,demokratik va demografik jihatlarni ham (ayollarning soni er yuzida erkaklardan kop) nazarda tutganlar.
;) barchamizni insofdan qismasin ekan ,Olloh...
P.S bu mavzu aynan shu sahifada oz ornini topmagan deguvchilarga qoshilmiyman.yahshilab tahlil qilinsa jaa topgande.....
Wolfman
10-19-2004, 12:27 AM
Man ikkita xotin olishga imkoniyatim bo'lsa olardim. Bitta xotinlilik bu EGOISM. Sababi erkaklar qisqaroq umr ko'radi va qizlarning soni erkaklarnikidan bir muncha ko'proq.
Erkaklarning uylanolmay qolshidan ko'ra qizlarning "o'tirib" qolish xavfi kuchliroq :D
Stan
Mona Lisa
10-19-2004, 12:32 AM
P.S bu mavzu aynan shu sahifada oz ornini topmagan deguvchilarga qoshilmiyman.yahshilab tahlil qilinsa jaa topgande.....
Agar umuman tahlil qilinsa bu thread 'oila va jamiyat' degan umumiy mavzuga tegishli. Afsuslarki forum.uz da bunday boardni o'zi yoq demakki mavzu Umumiy Sahifaga judaa mos tushadi ;)
Qachondab beri bitta yoki to'rtta hotin olish Uzbni eng dolzarb muammolariga aylangan? :rolleyes: :D
Hadija
10-19-2004, 12:48 AM
Agar umuman tahlil qilinsa bu thread 'oila va jamiyat' degan umumiy mavzuga tegishli. Afsuslarki forum.uz da bunday boardni o'zi yoq demakki mavzu Umumiy Sahifaga judaa mos tushadi ;)
Qachondab beri bitta yoki to'rtta hotin olish Uzbni eng dolzarb muammolariga aylangan? :rolleyes: :Daylanmagan bolsa, aylantirish qiyin emas....:lol:
KeSha
10-19-2004, 12:55 AM
Og'rimagan boshlaringga o'griq solib nimaga erishasilar tushunmadim. :rolleyes: Odamlar bitta hotin bilan 'Voy Dot!!!' devorishadi -yu :D
Ne govori, oldin bitta hitinni eplab, indan kegin, ikkinchisini planlashtirsa bo'ladveradi :lol:
Omad Sh. ;)
Hadija
10-19-2004, 12:59 AM
Ne govori, oldin bitta hitinni eplab, indan kegin, ikkinchisini planlashtirsa bo'ladveradi :lol:
Omad Sh. ;)Manimcha bu erda eplay olmaydiganlar nazarda tutilmagan....;)
Hadija
10-19-2004, 01:01 AM
A voobshe ya dumayu etu temu nado peremestit v drugoy razdel..naprimer kak Liza govorila v obshiy..
BOBOY
10-19-2004, 01:07 AM
Umuman olganda SINGLE bo'lishga nima etsin qando hayot chiroyli :D
Ishdan charchab uyga kesen hammayo go'zal sukunat hukmron tashqaridan darahtlarni mayin shitirlashi eshitiladi
qo'shnining 8 ta tu'gan mushugini eri manga o'zgacha havas bilan boqardi :D
hazil a tak
Mona Lisa
10-19-2004, 01:08 AM
Ne govori, oldin bitta hitinni eplab, indan kegin, ikkinchisini planlashtirsa bo'ladveradi :lol:
Omad Sh. ;)
Nu daa, kelgusi 5 yilli plan allaqachonlar tuzilganga o'hshaydi. :D
Hadija
10-19-2004, 01:19 AM
Umuman olganda SINGLE bo'lishga nima etsin qando hayot chiroyli :D
Ishdan charchab uyga kesen hammayo go'zal sukunat hukmron tashqaridan darahtlarni mayin shitirlashi eshitiladi
qo'shnining 8 ta tu'gan mushugini eri manga o'zgacha havas bilan boqardi :D
hazil a tak:rolleyes: Aaha..bittasi mahsizni echgan..bittasi choy opkegan..ozgacha hayoooooot...va hayoool...
Wolfman
10-19-2004, 01:30 AM
:rolleyes: Aaha..bittasi mahsizni echgan..bittasi choy opkegan..ozgacha hayoooooot...va hayoool...
Hadija sanga savol, man sani xotinimni ustiga olsam rozi bo'larmiding? oldin o'zingdan boshlaylikda savolni :D;)
Stan
Hadija
10-19-2004, 01:34 AM
:D Hadija sanga savol, man sani xotinimni ustiga olsam rozi bo'larmiding? oldin o'zingdan boshlaylikda savolni :D;)
Stan:D Ajoyib savol..ammo lekin bu savolga javob bermoqligimdan avval ,Siz bundayin jasoratimga arzirmikinsiz shuni bilmoqni istadim...????
P.S :Kundoshi bilan opa singil bola olgan ayollarga hozirgi zamonamizda haykal qoysa arziydi.
BOBOY
10-19-2004, 01:37 AM
:rolleyes: Aaha..bittasi mahsizni echgan..bittasi choy opkegan..ozgacha hayoooooot...va hayoool...
Da ne mehsi echish choy damlash ovqat qilish kir yuvish bu problemamas professional bop ketganman bu sohalada
eng zo'ri itte charchab keganda kichkinagina qizcha kizil gulli ko'yneda chochlari jingale ADAJOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON nima opkeldiz deb bo'yninga otilsa jamiki charchoqla unutiladi :D
Wolfman
10-19-2004, 01:48 AM
:D :D Ajoyib savol..ammo lekin bu savolga javob bermoqligimdan avval ,Siz bundayin jasoratimga arzirmikinsiz shuni bilmoqni istadim...????
P.S :Kundoshi bilan opa singil bola olgan ayollarga hozirgi zamonamizda haykal qoysa arziydi.
Ahha, demak er birinchi xotinining ba'zi shartlarini bajarishi kerak ikkinchisini olishi uchun... San nima shart qo'ygan bo'lar eding.
Stan
Hadija
10-19-2004, 01:48 AM
Da ne mehsi echish choy damlash ovqat qilish kir yuvish bu problemamas professional bop ketganman bu sohalada
eng zo'ri itte charchab keganda kichkinagina qizcha kizil gulli ko'yneda chochlari jingale ADAJOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON nima opkeldiz deb bo'yninga otilsa jamiki charchoqla unutiladi :DNiyatizga etin iloyim..ikkita boladimi.onta boladimi asosiysi inson ozini Bahtli deb his qilishida...:) Farzandlar esa hamisha bizaga quvonch ulashgan.
Hadija
10-19-2004, 01:57 AM
Ahha, demak er birinchi xotinining ba'zi shartlarini bajarishi kerak ikkinchisini olishi uchun... San nima shart qo'ygan bo'lar eding.
Stanafsus savolimni tushunmabsiz..man sizga agar ''ustimga'' hotin olsez bu shartimni bajarasiz ,u shartimga konasiz degan ma`noda bermadim savolni.Siz shundoq boling-ki..:D osha oladigan Hotinchangiznikiga ozim sovchilikka boray gulllar bilan eshiklarini qoqib.... Yahshi ,adolatli Erini ko`ngli ranjimasligi uchun nimalaga qodir bolishmagan bu ayollar....erini haqiqatdan sevib tushunadigan ayollarni nazarda tutdim...
Moy muj doljen bit` Svyatim dlya menya,chto bi ya soglasilas` na eto......NO ...do togo kak on vozmet` moe soglasie.Ti smojesh stat` Svyatim???
:rolleyes: Ya dumayu eto malo komu udaetsya..
Hadija
10-19-2004, 02:02 AM
Ahha, demak er birinchi xotinining ba'zi shartlarini bajarishi kerak ikkinchisini olishi uchun... San nima shart qo'ygan bo'lar eding.
Stankstati zabila...shart qoymagan bolardim..aqilli er kozimdan payqab oladi ichimdagi gapuirolmiydigan shrtlarimni..man shart qoymiman akaaaa...:lol: yoki.. uka
BOBOY
10-19-2004, 02:03 AM
Niyatizga etin iloyim..ikkita boladimi.onta boladimi asosiysi inson ozini Bahtli deb his qilishida...:) Farzandlar esa hamisha bizaga quvonch ulashgan.
rahmat siz ham niyatizga eting
barchamizani honadonlarimizadan fayz baraka arimasin( lol konkretniy duo bo'ldi bunisi :lol: )
Wolfman
10-19-2004, 02:06 AM
afsus savolimni tushunmabsiz..man sizga agar ''ustimga'' hotin olsez bu shartimni bajarasiz ,u shartimga konasiz degan ma`noda bermadim savolni.Siz shundoq boling-ki..:D osha oladigan Hotinchangiznikiga ozim sovchilikka boray gulllar bilan eshiklarini qoqib.... Yahshi ,adolatli Erini ko`ngli ranjimasligi uchun nimalaga qodir bolishmagan bu ayollar....erini haqiqatdan sevib tushunadigan ayollarni nazarda tutdim...
Moy muj doljen bit` Svyatim dlya menya,chto bi ya soglasilas` na eto......NO ...do togo kak on vozmet` moe soglasie.Ti smojesh stat` Svyatim???
:rolleyes: Ya dumayu eto malo komu udaetsya..
Hmm, qiziq savol. Balki mandan "super lover" chiqmas, lekin man juda yaxshi er va ota bo'lishimni yaxshi bilaman... Xuddi mani dadamga o'xshab... Bir chertmasdan barchamizni yaxshilab tarbiyalagan.
Stan Father ;)
Desperado
10-19-2004, 02:11 AM
2ta xotinli bo'lish osonmas, hozir 2ta oilani birdaniga boqishni o'zi bo'midi. ayniqsa shahar joylarda.
bundan tashqari, bitta hotindan boshqasiga ruhsat bermaslik bu inson huquqlarining qo'pol buzilishi hisoblanishi kerak. beva, o'tirib qolgan yoki ersiz ayollar inson sanalmaydimi, ularning ham ham oila qilish, bola-chaqa ko'rishga haqlari yo'qmi?
shuni uchun ayollar bu masalani ham e'tibordan chetda qoldirmasliklari kerak.
ohir-oqibat hamma erkaklar ham bittadan ortig'iga uylanishga qurblari yetavermaydi, yoki hohish bo'lavermaydi.
Hadija
10-19-2004, 02:16 AM
Hmm, qiziq savol. Balki mandan "super lover" chiqmas, lekin man juda yaxshi er va ota bo'lishimni yaxshi bilaman... Xuddi mani dadamga o'xshab... Bir chertmasdan barchamizni yaxshilab tarbiyalagan.
Stan Father ;)ti opyat` taki ne ponyal menya ya ne hochu chto bi moy muj bil super lover,no ya doljna ego uvajat` kak muja i kak druga..Moi deti doljni uvajat` ego.Qisqasi er ustun bolishi kere oilada
ti opyat` taki ne ponyal menya ya ne hochu chto bi moy muj bil super lover,no ya doljna ego uvajat` kak muja i kak druga .A druz`yam naaaado pomogat`:D .Hurmat va mehr degan tushunchala bor seper lover bolishdan oldin.Agar shunaqa bolsa mani oilamdagi farzandlar ham san kabi odobli va aqilli bolishadi Moi deti doljni uvajat` ego.Qisqasi er ustun bolishi kere oilada . Bolmasa farzandlar notogri tarbiya topadi.
sanga kelse,mani sani yahshi ota va er bolishinga shubham yoq..:) Har birimizani bahtimizni bersin.
Hadija
10-19-2004, 02:20 AM
rahmat siz ham niyatizga eting
barchamizani honadonlarimizadan fayz baraka arimasin( lol konkretniy duo bo'ldi bunisi :lol: ):D Tochno kak vedushie na TV...potom dobavlyayut ..Korishguncha hayr.salomat boling!:lol:
Sposiba VSEM..Esli chestno ne ojidala. Mojet ya na perviy raz nepravil`no zashla i pomestila v drugom otdele,poetomu prinimayu Vashe vozrajenie po etomu povodu..
Desperado
10-19-2004, 02:26 AM
ti opyat` taki ne ponyal menya ya ne hochu chto bi moy muj bil super lover,no ya doljna ego uvajat` kak muja i kak druga..Moi deti doljni uvajat` ego.Qisqasi er ustun bolishi kere oilada
ti opyat` taki ne ponyal menya ya ne hochu chto bi moy muj bil super lover,no ya doljna ego uvajat` kak muja i kak druga .A druz`yam naaaado pomogat`:D .Hurmat va mehr degan tushunchala bor seper lover bolishdan oldin.Agar shunaqa bolsa mani oilamdagi farzandlar ham san kabi odobli va aqilli bolishadi Moi deti doljni uvajat` ego.Qisqasi er ustun bolishi kere oilada . Bolmasa farzandlar notogri tarbiya topadi.
sanga kelse,mani sani yahshi ota va er bolishinga shubham yoq..:) Har birimizani bahtimizni bersin.
Hadija (and Espace), please sort this thing out through PM. Send pics to each other and have interview. Maybe you will like him and agree to become his second (or first) wife. He is saying he will be a good husband and father, isnt that enough for you.
About saint husbands... that means you will never agree to have a 'kundosh' :)
Wolfman
10-19-2004, 02:27 AM
ti opyat` taki ne ponyal menya ya ne hochu chto bi moy muj bil super lover,no ya doljna ego uvajat` kak muja i kak druga..Moi deti doljni uvajat` ego.Qisqasi er ustun bolishi kere oilada
ti opyat` taki ne ponyal menya ya ne hochu chto bi moy muj bil super lover,no ya doljna ego uvajat` kak muja i kak druga .A druz`yam naaaado pomogat`:D .Hurmat va mehr degan tushunchala bor seper lover bolishdan oldin.Agar shunaqa bolsa mani oilamdagi farzandlar ham san kabi odobli va aqilli bolishadi Moi deti doljni uvajat` ego.Qisqasi er ustun bolishi kere oilada . Bolmasa farzandlar notogri tarbiya topadi.
sanga kelse,mani sani yahshi ota va er bolishinga shubham yoq..:) Har birimizani bahtimizni bersin.
O'roqday to'g'ri :D:D
Stan
Mubina
10-19-2004, 02:30 AM
Olohni ozi asrasin degim keladikuuu..lekin taqdir degan sinovli bir tushuncha bor.....kim bilsin osha vaqtga kelib balkim yuragim ezilib,lol kundoshimga achinib maili ..men rozi deb yuborarman..
Chunki chuqur fikr qilinsa, Olloh va Paygambarimiz buyurghan barcha bajarishimiz kerak bolgan kichik amallarning tagida katta haqiqat yashiringan.Buni hozir ham isbotini korish mumkin.Man kophotinlik yhashi demoqchimasman,lekin aqlan qaralganda,bu jamiyatni buzuqlikdan,ayol va erkaklarni nopokligidan (agar ikkinchi hotinga yo deseyiz ,baribir kerelik qozig`ini topib oladi bular),etimhonalarni kopayishidan himoya qiladi.Va qolaversa Rasuli Akram(S.A.V)4 nafargacha hotin olishga huquqingiz bor deya erkalarga izn berayotganliklarida, fikrimcha yuqoridagi illatlardan himoyalanish bilan birgalikda,demokratik va demografik jihatlarni ham (ayollarning soni er yuzida erkaklardan kop) nazarda tutganlar.
;) barchamizni insofdan qismasin ekan ,Olloh...
P.S bu mavzu aynan shu sahifada oz ornini topmagan deguvchilarga qoshilmiyman.yahshilab tahlil qilinsa jaa topgande.....
Hadichaxon yana bir bor Quroni Karimni o'qib chiqib aynan shunday deb yozilgan joyini paste qilib uborsangiz.
Hurmat ila,
MBN
Mubina
10-19-2004, 02:42 AM
Man ikkita xotin olishga imkoniyatim bo'lsa olardim. Bitta xotinlilik bu EGOISM. Sababi erkaklar qisqaroq umr ko'radi va qizlarning soni erkaklarnikidan bir muncha ko'proq.
Erkaklarning uylanolmay qolshidan ko'ra qizlarning "o'tirib" qolish xavfi kuchliroq :D
Stan
EGOISM??? Dunyodagi shuncha odam egoist ekanda sizningcha, to'grimi???
Men ham shu "Egoistlarni" biri bo'lgim keladi,
Keyin sizningcha Bitta oilada Ikkita "Ona" Bitta "Ota" bo'lishi "EGOISM" emasmi??? Bu sonlarni tenglab qo'ishga qanday qaraysiz (har hil argumentlarsiz javob bering)?? EGOIST masligingizga shubham borda ???
Menimcha aynan O'zbek (boshqa millatlar bilmadim) erkaklari "ko'ngli bo'shligidan" ikkita hotinlik emas, aynan siz aytganizdek "EGOIST" ligi uchun.
Barcha kundoshlik "gashtini" surayotganlarga, va qo'shhotinlika qarshimaslarga SABR!!!
Salyam Alaykum,
Egoist qiz
Hadija
10-19-2004, 02:51 AM
Hadichaxon yana bir bor Quroni Karimni o'qib chiqib aynan shunday deb yozilgan joyini paste qilib uborsangiz.
Hurmat ila,
MBNMubinahon..yahshilab oldin postni oqib olin man (S.A.V) Qur`onda etganlaaaa deb gapirmadim..chunki shak keltirgan bolamanki .yana shuning uchunkim qimmatli e`tiborlari uchun Qur`onda faqat Ollohning sozlari bitilgandur.
Lekin Hadislarda bor..olib ochib oqisangiz boladi.Manimcha ikkinchi sinf bolasi ham biladi mo`min kishiga 4 ta hotinga oylanishga ruhsat borligfi haqida....Manimcha anchaa yiroqda bolsez kerede...Maili agar adresizzi yozvorosez man pochtada Al Buhoriyni hadislar toplamini jonatib yubora olaman.U erda nafaqat bu 4 ta hotin haqida,balki ayol kishini eriga otoatda bolmasa qiyomatda qanaqa jazolar kutayotganligi haqida,keyin ancha muncha ozizga taa`luqli narsalar haqida bilib olasiz..Roza kunlari ochen` daje v temu..savobi ham tegadi.Gap borku,orgilay,ming bora eshitgandan kora bir bora korgan afzal degan..
Hafagarchiliksiz,qoqindiq...:)
Lekin Qur`onni ozini oqimoqni niyat qilgan bolsangiz,nur ustiga a`lo nur.Osha erda ayollarga dahldor "Niso" surasi bor,tushungan odam yigliydi..
Mona Lisa
10-19-2004, 03:02 AM
Bitta xotinlilik bu EGOISM.
va albatta to'rtta hotinlik bu PHILANTHROPISTIC :shock: :D
Hadija
10-19-2004, 03:04 AM
radi boga mi eshe do etogo ne doshli...mi je obsujdaem tol`ko dvuh..i vopros bil postavlen po drugomu..tak davayte normal`no otvechat` ..da..da net net...
Wolfman
10-19-2004, 03:11 AM
Keyin sizningcha Bitta oilada Ikkita "Ona" Bitta "Ota" bo'lishi "EGOISM" emasmi??? Bu sonlarni tenglab qo'ishga qanday qaraysiz (har hil argumentlarsiz javob bering)?? EGOIST masligingizga shubham borda ???
Menimcha aynan O'zbek (boshqa millatlar bilmadim) erkaklari "ko'ngli bo'shligidan" ikkita hotinlik emas, aynan siz aytganizdek "EGOIST" ligi uchun.
Egoist qiz
Boshqa ayollar beva-qariqiz bo'lib o'tib ketayotganda, bir erni qo'lga ovolib uni qo'riqlab yotish, boshqalar bilan shar'iy yollar bilan baham ko'rmaslik EGOISM dan boshqa narsa emas :D (bu gap ayollarga tegishli)
Bu degani har bir er albatta qo'sh xotinlilik bo'lishi kerak deganimas. Sharoitga qarab...
Sunnatdan xabaringiz bor manimcha, bir ayolni bir vaqtda ikki eri bo'lishi mumkin emas. Hohish uchun ikkixotilinlilik debsiz, shahvatni shar'iy yo'l bilan qondirish gunoh emas...
Gap oxirida- "Er qadrini bevadan so'ra" :D
Stan Egoist ;)
Hadija
10-19-2004, 03:11 AM
Esp, Mubinaga hafa bolma hali bunaqa narsalarni magzini chaqishga erta....korinadi..Yana Olloh biladi..:(
Mubina
10-19-2004, 03:12 AM
Mubinahon..yahshilab oldin postni oqib olin man [/q]
Yaxshilab oqib chiqib o'ziz bu mavzulardan ancha uzoqligizi tushungahim uchun, gaplariz 'source'ni bilgim keldi. Gaplarizdan bu Quronda keltirilgan deb tushindim, noto'gri tushunganman bo'lsam, sorry dude.
Lekin Hadislarda bor..olib ochib oqisangiz boladi.Manimcha ikkinchi sinf bolasi ham biladi mo`min kishiga 4 ta hotinga oylanishga ruhsat borligfi haqida....
Yaxshi qiz bilmadim siz qaysi maktabda o'qiganligizi, lek bizi maktabda "qo'r-qo'rona" 4ta hotinga muslim uylanish mumkin deb o'rgatishmagan, qaysi vaziyatlarda ruhsat berilganini o'qib chiqsangiz va keyinga hotinga uylanishdan oldin qo'ilgan shartlarni o'qib chiqsangiz balkim tushunarsiz bularni bajarishni iloji yoqligini.
Ikkinchi sinfda o'qimaganligim pand berayapti shekilli
Maili agar adresizzi yozvorosez man pochtada Al Buhoriyni hadislar toplamini jonatib yubora olaman.
mayli, lekin oldin o'zlaridan bo'lsin, oldin o'zlari yaxshilab o'qib chiqsin, biz uzoqdamiza shu erlardan eplab topishga harakat qib koramiz, siz ovora bomang.
[QUOTE=Hadija]Lekin Qur`onni ozini oqimoqni niyat qilgan bolsangiz,nur ustiga a`lo nur.
Bilasimi ikkinchi sinfda o'qimaganman aynan shu sinfda o'qishni o'rgatgan,
men o'qishni bilmiman
No offences....It was just my opinion, so if U can just paste the exact link where did you get these "words",
Salyam Alaykum,
MBN
Hadija
10-19-2004, 03:14 AM
Boshqa ayollar beva-qariqiz bo'lib o'tib ketayotganda, bir erni qo'lga ovolib uni qo'riqlab yotish, boshqalar bilan shar'iy yollar bilan baham ko'rmaslik EGOISM dan boshqa narsa emas :D (bu gap ayollarga tegishli)
Bu degani har bir er albatta qo'sh xotinlilik bo'lishi kerak deganimas. Sharoitga qarab...
Sunnatdan xabaringiz bor manimcha, bir ayolni bir vaqtda ikki eri bo'lishi mumkin emas. Hohish uchun ikkixotilinlilik debsiz, shahvatni shar'iy yo'l bilan qondirish gunoh emas...
Gap oxirida- "Er qadrini bevadan so'ra" :D
Stan E
Endi Mubinani bevanikiga stajirovkaga jonatish qoluvdi.:o
Wolfman
10-19-2004, 03:15 AM
va albatta to'rtta hotinlik bu PHILANTHROPISTIC :shock: :D Albatta to'rtta xotinlilik bo'lish shart emasu, lekin ko'p xotinlilik insoniylikdan:D
To Hadija: "ha" va "yoq" bilan bu forummi nima qizig'i bor?
""Endi Mubinani bevanikiga stajirovkaga jonatish qoluvdi.:o"" :D:shock::mrgreen:
Hadija
10-19-2004, 03:21 AM
Bilasimi ikkinchi sinfda o'qimaganman aynan shu sinfda o'qishni o'rgatgan,
men o'qishni bilmiman
No offences....It was just my opinion, so if U can just paste the exact link where did you get these "words",
Salyam Alaykum,
MBN??????????????????????????????????
Yaje skazala ona nichego ne ponimaet..lutshe bi bilo ey viyti otsyuda..
''Yaxshi qiz bilmadim siz qaysi maktabda o'qiganligizi, lek bizi maktabda "qo'r-qo'rona" 4ta hotinga muslim uylanish mumkin deb o'rgatishmagan, qaysi vaziyatlarda ruhsat berilganini o'qib chiqsangiz va keyinga hotinga uylanishdan oldin qo'ilgan shartlarni o'qib chiqsangiz balkim tushunarsiz bularni bajarishni iloji yoqligini.
Ikkinchi sinfda o'qimaganligim pand berayapti shekilli''
manimcha maktabda Bizaga Qur`onni orgatishmagan,bizaga...tem bolee oquvchilarga Kophotinlik predmetini..a nima dedila..yoki hozir maktablada kiritilganmi bu naqa mavzu? yoki bolmasa huddi shu mavzuni yorituvchi fan????
Qaisi maktab ekan man ham bori...Chala otinlani korgani..
Desperado
10-19-2004, 03:25 AM
bu odamla nimaga o'zlari bilmagan narsala haqida haqida har hil gap qilishaverishadi-a?
agar musulmon bo'lsang, erkaklarga 4 tagacha uylanishga ruhsat bor.
iltimos, nimaga islomda ko'photinlilikka ruhsat berilganligi o'zlaring borib yahhsilab research qilila... va iltimos, bu masalada ortiqcha gaplani yig'ishtirila.
agar Allohning hukmiga qarshi chiqadiganlar bo'lsa, u shahsiy ishlaring...
Niso Surasidam:
4:3 If ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans, Marry women of your choice, Two or three or four; but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one, or (a captive) that your right hands pos sess, that will be more suitable, to prevent you from doing injustice.
Shuni esdan chiqarmeyla, islom ko'p hotinliliknimas, bitta hotinlilikni targ'ib qiladi, va shunisi Allohga eng hush keladigani, ko'photinlilikka ruhsat berilganiga qaramasdan.
Mona Lisa
10-19-2004, 03:26 AM
Boshqa ayollar beva-qariqiz bo'lib o'tib ketayotganda, bir erni qo'lga ovolib uni qo'riqlab yotish, boshqalar bilan shar'iy yollar bilan baham ko'rmaslik EGOISM dan boshqa narsa emas
LOL :lool:
I guess homeland security is pretty tight :cool:
Hadija
10-19-2004, 03:27 AM
bu odamla nimaga o'zlari bilmagan narsala haqida haqida har hil gap qilishaverishadi-a?
agar musulmon bo'lsang, erkaklarga 4 tagacha uylanishga ruhsat bor.
iltimos, nimaga islomda ko'photinlilikka ruhsat berilganligi o'zlaring borib yahhsilab research qilila... va iltimos, bu masalada ortiqcha gaplani yig'ishtirila.
agar Allohning hukmiga qarshi chiqadiganlar bo'lsa, u shahsiy ishlaring...
Niso Surasidam:
4:3 If ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans, Marry women of your choice, Two or three or four; but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one, or (a captive) that your right hands pos sess, that will be more suitable, to prevent you from doing injustice.
Shuni esdan chiqarmeyla, islom ko'p hotinliliknimas, bitta hotinlilikni targ'ib qiladi, va shunisi Allohga eng hush keladigani, ko'photinlilikka ruhsat berilganiga qaramasdan.vo vo..ya mi je toje ob etom ..tolko deti ne ponimayut..
Wolfman
10-19-2004, 03:27 AM
Hadija (and Espace), please sort this thing out through PM. Send pics to each other and have interview. Maybe you will like him and agree to become his second (or first) wife. He is saying he will be a good husband and father, isnt that enough for you.
About saint husbands... that means you will never agree to have a 'kundosh' :)
Desperado, bizning xotin bor, ikkinchisiga ozgina pul kamroq. Oshani uchun Hadijani Sizga tavsiya qilaman, Egoist bo'lgim kelmayapti :D
Stan Saxiy ;)
Mubina
10-19-2004, 03:28 AM
Boshqa ayollar beva-qariqiz bo'lib o'tib ketayotganda, bir erni qo'lga ovolib uni qo'riqlab yotish, boshqalar bilan shar'iy yollar bilan baham ko'rmaslik EGOISM dan boshqa narsa emas :D (bu gap ayollarga tegishli)
Bu degani har bir er albatta qo'sh xotinlilik bo'lishi kerak deganimas. Sharoitga qarab...
Men aytganim bizni erkaklar "ko'ngli boshligidan" ikkita yoki undan koproq ayollarga uylanishmidi degandim.
Sunnatdan xabaringiz bor manimcha, bir ayolni bir vaqtda ikki eri bo'lishi mumkin emas. [/QOUTE]
Bilaman, lekin men siz shu ayollarni o'rnida o'zizi qanday hiz qilasiz degandim.
Erkaklar kam yashaydi, ayollar kop degansiz, yaxshi bilsangiz kerak eri o'tib ketgan ayollarni 80% boshqa oila qurmasligini.
[QUOTE]Endi Mubinani bevanikiga stajirovkaga jonatish qoluvdi
Borib kelgansiz shekilligu-a, a tak bormagan bo'lsangiz birga borib keluramiz, qiyin joi yoq.
Esp, Mubinaga hafa bolma hali bunaqa narsalarni magzini chaqishga erta....korinadi..Yana Olloh biladi
Birinchidan hafa bo'ladigon gap gapirganim yoq, yana bilmadim aynan Sizga qattiq tekan bo'lsa.
Ikkinchidan, Magistraturani bitirgansiz shekilligu-a bu fan bo'yicha, biz esa
balkim bunday mavzulargan yoshlik qilarmiz,
menga desa boshqalarni eri 4 tamas 8 hotinga uylansin,
Salyam Alaykum,
Rashqchi va Egoist qiz
Desperado
10-19-2004, 03:31 AM
Desperado, bizning xotin bor, ikkinchisiga ozgina pul kamroq. Oshani uchun Hadijani Sizga tavsiya qilaman, Egoist bo'lgim kelmayapti :D
Stan Saxiy ;)
manam uylanganman, tem bolee xotin aka sal egoistroq, ruhsat olomiyappan ikkinchisiga hozircha :)
Mubina
10-19-2004, 03:39 AM
4:3 If ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans, Marry women of your choice, Two or three or four; but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one, or (a captive) that your right hands pos sess, that will be more suitable, to prevent you from doing injustice
Desperado, men ham aynan shu narsani nazarda tutyatgandim,
kim kafil ikkita hotinga bit hil qara olishiga.
Shu haqda bir hadis bor edi, topsam ertaga albatta qoyib uboraman,
Qaisi maktab ekan man ham bori
sizga jaa uzoqli qiladimi dimanda, a tak uzoqqa borib nima qilasiz...
Wassalam,
MBN
Hadija
10-19-2004, 03:45 AM
Men aytganim bizni erkaklar "ko'ngli boshligidan" ikkita yoki undan koproq ayollarga uylanishmidi degandim.
Borib kelgansiz shekilligu-a, a tak bormagan bo'lsangiz birga borib keluramiz, qiyin joi yoq.
Birinchidan hafa bo'ladigon gap gapirganim yoq, yana bilmadim aynan Sizga qattiq tekan bo'lsa.
Ikkinchidan, Magistraturani bitirgansiz shekilligu-a bu fan bo'yicha, biz esa
balkim bunday mavzulargan yoshlik qilarmiz,
menga desa boshqalarni eri 4 tamas 8 hotinga uylansin,
Salyam Alaykum,
Rashqchi va Egoist qiz:lol: :lol: :lol: A ana ozizga keldiz ,qoqindiq...:)
DFaqat havaqarchilik va pichnigsiz..hop..korinib turibdi agar eriz,shunaqa savol bilan oldizga kelsa boshiga bir urib chaqib qoyasiz yoki itd...hazilde...
Lekin bu nmavzudabahslashish uchun magistraturani bitirish shart emas..bevanikiga ham borish shi hojati yo..man hazil deb gapirdinm halos..
Man judayam eskicha oilada tarbiya olganman..Buvimlani onalari Olloh rahmatklariga olgan bolsin..ismlari Hadija Otin edi..otin bolganla..Biza Qur`onni eshitib ulgayganmiza..Umuman Qur`on mani nazarimda ayollarga yahshi tarbiya vositasi.Qolaversa hayotda har hil vaziyat boladi albatta bunda Qur`ondan javob topish mumkin.Agar ihlos qilsez albatta...Mavzudan chetlayapman yana.uzr..Osha Hadija buvimlar 13 yosh bolgan ekanlar Maqsud Bek degan odamga turmushga chiqqanlarida 3 chi hotin bolib..Osha insondan Biza tarqaganmiza..Buvimla judayam yosh va chiroylik bolganlar..Aytishlaricha,kundoshlarini ozi voyaga etqazishgan deya hazil qilib yurardilar...juda ahil bolishgan....Dodamla qattiqol bolmaganlar ,lekin juda adolatli bolganlar..shunga bolsa kere hamma ahil inoq turmush kechirishgan....Farzandlari ham ....Lekin shunaqa bolsa ham ,dodamlardan keyin hech kim ikkinchi hotin olmagan ..bu zamonani zaili bilan bolsa kere..
Aytmoqchi bolganim hayotda har hil vaziyat boladi ,va biz ayollar bunga tayor bolishimiz kerak.
Hadija
10-19-2004, 03:50 AM
Desperado, bizning xotin bor, ikkinchisiga ozgina pul kamroq. Oshani uchun Hadijani Sizga tavsiya qilaman, Egoist bo'lgim kelmayapti :D
Stan Saxiy ;):D Man birovni Bahtini ustiga baht quradiganlardan emasman..Galchaligizga bordizde yana..man erim shunaqa deb kelsa, oylab koraman....lekin aslo birovni ustiga hotin bolmiyman..Olloh asrasin Hammamizani bunaqa noqulaygarchilikdan.......hamma narsani gap deb gapiradiganlani jinim yoqtirmiydi.....heee orgildim sizdaka..''hotinlik tokisdan''....:cool:
Hadija
10-19-2004, 03:52 AM
sizga jaa uzoqli qiladimi dimanda, a tak uzoqqa borib nima qilasiz...
Wassalam,
MBN[/QUOTE]Bilim olish uchun Hirotga ham borsa arziydi..orgilay,..agar maktabiz shunga arzisaaaaaaaaaaaa...
BOBOY
10-19-2004, 03:54 AM
4:3 If ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans, Marry women of your choice, Two or three or four; but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one, or (a captive) that your right hands pos sess, that will be more suitable, to prevent you from doing injustice
Desperado, men ham aynan shu narsani nazarda tutyatgandim,
kim kafil ikkita hotinga bit hil qara olishiga.
Shu haqda bir hadis bor edi, topsam ertaga albatta qoyib uboraman,
sizga jaa uzoqli qiladimi dimanda, a tak uzoqqa borib nima qilasiz...
Wassalam,
MBN
Adashmasam haddis mana shunday edi KIMNIKI IKKITA HOTINI BO'LIB ULARGA BIRDEK KARAMASA QIYOMAT KUNI YARMI YO'Q HOLDA TIRILADI
HATO BOLSA HUDONI O'ZI KECHIRSIN
Mubina
10-19-2004, 04:02 AM
:lol: :lol: :lol: A ana ozizga keldiz ,qoqindiq...:)
DFaqat havaqarchilik va pichnigsiz..hop..korinib turibdi agar eriz,shunaqa savol bilan oldizga kelsa boshiga bir urib chaqib qoyasiz yoki itd...hazilde...
Lekin bu nmavzudabahslashish uchun magistraturani bitirish shart emas..bevanikiga ham borish shi hojati yo..man hazil deb gapirdinm halos..
Man judayam eskicha oilada tarbiya olganman..Buvimlani onalari Olloh rahmatklariga olgan bolsin..ismlari Hadija Otin edi..otin bolganla..Biza Qur`onni eshitib ulgayganmiza..Umuman Qur`on mani nazarimda ayollarga yahshi tarbiya vositasi.Qolaversa hayotda har hil vaziyat boladi albatta bunda Qur`ondan javob topish mumkin.Agar ihlos qilsez albatta...Mavzudan chetlayapman yana.uzr..Osha Hadija buvimlar 13 yosh bolgan ekanlar Maqsud Bek degan odamga turmushga chiqqanlarida 3 chi hotin bolib..Osha insondan Biza tarqaganmiza..Buvimla judayam yosh va chiroylik bolganlar..Aytishlaricha,kundoshlarini ozi voyaga etqazishgan deya hazil qilib yurardilar...juda ahil bolishgan....Dodamla qattiqol bolmaganlar ,lekin juda adolatli bolganlar..shunga bolsa kere hamma ahil inoq turmush kechirishgan....Farzandlari ham ....Lekin shunaqa bolsa ham ,dodamlardan keyin hech kim ikkinchi hotin olmagan ..bu zamonani zaili bilan bolsa kere..
Aytmoqchi bolganim hayotda har hil vaziyat boladi ,va biz ayollar bunga tayor bolishimiz kerak.
Fikrimni to'gri etkazganimdam boshim osmonda,
o'zim hohlamagande boshqa ayollarga ham buni ravo ko'rmayman,
balkim meni fikrlashim siznikidan boshqachadur, men islomiy oilada tarbiya ko'rmaganman, lekin bu Islomga qarshi biron bir harakat qilaman agar erim 2chisiga uylansa deganimas, (agar barcha shart-sharoitlarga rioya qilsa (qila olsa) katta ko'cha)
Bizni erkaklar buni "zloupotreblyaut" demoqchidim.
Hamma o'zi hal qilsin 'nechinchi' bo'lishini,
lichno men Yagona-Durdona bo'lish niyatidaman :insha:
Hurmat ila,
Egoist qiz
Hadija
10-19-2004, 04:18 AM
Ya ponimayu tebya...vse mi hotim bit` edinstvennimi..i chto bi tol`ko nas..i eshe raz nas lyubili....samiy,samaya,samoe,samie...eto samie mnogo upotrebvlyaemie slova jenshin`..Mi vsegda hotim nechto Samoe,eto i v lyubvi..no ne mojem soznat` Samuyu malinkuy i nezabivaemuyu pravdu,chto :Yagona bolish Ollohga hos,va tem bolee ayollarni sozini oldiga OJIZ degan jumla qoshilgan.. No tem ne menee tak chto ya jelayu schast`e tebe bit` samoy edinstvennoy konechno svoemu izbranniku..:)
Mubina
10-19-2004, 04:24 AM
Alloh (swt) Yagona va bir erkakni "Yagona" hotini bo'lishni farqi katta ;) deb o'ylayman,
Har holda niyatlariz uchun katta rakhmat,
sizga ham shu baht nasib etishida tilakdoshman!!!
Ojizona fikrim ila,
Mubina
Desperado
10-19-2004, 04:26 AM
mojaro yahshilik bilan tugagani rost bo'lsin :lol:
Hadija
10-19-2004, 04:33 AM
Yarashvaldik...erini talashib keyinyarashgan kundoshlaga ohshab lol..:D :D :D mojaro yahshilik bilan tugagani rost bo'lsin :lol:
Desperado
10-19-2004, 04:38 AM
Yarashvaldik...erini talashib keyinyarashgan kundoshlaga ohshab lol..:D :D :D
:D
manimcha sizzi fikrlarizda anchagina jon bor,
salomat bo'ling
Mubina
10-19-2004, 04:42 AM
Menimcha bu bahsdan keyin
O'zbekistoni yana bir muammosi echimini topmadi lekin ;)
Hurmat ila,
Mubina
Hadija
10-19-2004, 04:52 AM
65 hil fikr bilan muammo echiladi deb kim etti sizga??? yoki bolmasam forumda munozaraga qoyilgan qaysi muammo echilibdi? Manga biir korsatinchi? Agar Sizdakala Parlamentda otirsa ham echolmiysiz bu eragi muammolarni..Forumda muammoni echish uchun emas,har bir ozod inson unga fikr bildirishi,va shu bilan birgalikda bu borada boshqacha,ozgacha qarashlar ham mavjudligini bilish uchun qatnasghadi chamamda...agar adashmagan bolsam,yana adminlardan soren nimaga echilmadi muammo deb...
BOBOY
10-19-2004, 04:55 AM
65 hil fikr bilan muammo echiladi deb kim etti sizga??? yoki bolmasam forumda munozaraga qoyilgan qaysi muammo echilibdi? Manga biir korsatinchi? Agar Sizdakala Parlamentda otirsa ham echolmiysiz bu eragi muammolarni..Forumda muammoni echish uchun emas,har bir ozod inson unga fikr bildirishi,va shu bilan birgalikda bu borada boshqacha,ozgacha qarashlar ham mavjudligini bilish uchun qatnasghadi chamamda...agar adashmagan bolsam,yana adminlardan soren nimaga echilmadi muammo deb...
hozi yana urushib qolasla
Mona Lisa
10-19-2004, 04:56 AM
65 hil fikr bilan muammo echiladi deb kim etti sizga??? yoki bolmasam forumda munozaraga qoyilgan qaysi muammo echilibdi? Manga biir korsatinchi? Agar Sizdakala Parlamentda otirsa ham echolmiysiz bu eragi muammolarni..Forumda muammoni echish uchun emas,har bir ozod inson unga fikr bildirishi,va shu bilan birgalikda bu borada boshqacha,ozgacha qarashlar ham mavjudligini bilish uchun qatnasghadi chamamda...agar adashmagan bolsam,yana adminlardan soren nimaga echilmadi muammo deb...
Round II :D
Hadija
10-19-2004, 04:56 AM
hozi yana urushib qolaslasiz jiim tomosha qip turvurin...urishmiyommiza,munozara bildirvommiza...:D
Mubina
10-19-2004, 04:57 AM
Agar Sizdakala Parlamentda otirsa ham echolmiysiz bu eragi muammolarni..
Yaxshiyam Uzbekistonni Parlamentida emasligimiz [ikkilamiz], agar biz bahslashib yurginimizcha erimiz boshqasiga uylanib ketardi ;)
i proshay togda 'mechta' byt' edinstvennoy.
cheers,
Hadija
10-19-2004, 04:58 AM
siz jiim tomosha qip turvurin...urishmiyommiza,munozara bildirvommiza...:Djavoblari kechikib kettieey..ketsammikin,kutsammikin....:rolleyes:
Hadija
10-19-2004, 04:59 AM
wahahahaha...yutqazdim!!!!
Mubina
10-19-2004, 05:01 AM
hozi yana urushib qolasla
kim aytdi bizzi urishdi deb bu faqat
fikr almashuv edi
Hadija
10-19-2004, 05:03 AM
kim aytdi bizzi urishdi deb bu faqat
fikr almashuv edibir gapde qoqindiq..bir gap..choydan ichin hali zamon eriz kep qoladi..ot betizga atir upa degande..aa:lol: :lol:
Mubina
10-19-2004, 05:06 AM
Bo'ldi men ham ketdim, kech bo'lyapti,
borib og'iz ochishga tayorgarlik qo'ray,
Hadicha qiz Ramazon Muborak Bo'lsin!
Mubina
10-19-2004, 05:10 AM
bir gapde qoqindiq..bir gap..choydan ichin hali zamon eriz kep qoladi..ot betizga atir upa degande..aa:lol: :lol:
Yo rakhmat men Ro'za tutganman,
a tak hali erim yo, "bahtli kunlardan" bahra olib uribdi hali ;)
Asadbek
10-19-2004, 06:00 AM
Ana, tap-tayyor kino-scenariya!
Ikkita kundosh... Janjal... Aytishuv... "Hay-hay" deb bosh saraklagan tomoshabinlar...
LOL, hali bunaqasi bo'lmagandi :)
Qoyile!
BOBOY
10-19-2004, 06:21 AM
Ana, tap-tayyor kino-scenariya!
Ikkita kundosh... Janjal... Aytishuv... "Hay-hay" deb bosh saraklagan tomoshabinlar...
LOL, hali bunaqasi bo'lmagandi :)
Qoyile!
Asadbek aka tomosha yana davom etagan bo'lsa popcorn bilan gazsuv ochib qo'ymoqchiman :D
hanna 3-4 so'm pul bo'ladi
Wolfman
10-19-2004, 07:02 AM
:D Man birovni Bahtini ustiga baht quradiganlardan emasman..Galchaligizga bordizde yana..man erim shunaqa deb kelsa, oylab koraman....lekin aslo birovni ustiga hotin bolmiyman..Olloh asrasin Hammamizani bunaqa noqulaygarchilikdan.......hamma narsani gap deb gapiradiganlani jinim yoqtirmiydi.....heee orgildim sizdaka..''hotinlik tokisdan''....:cool:
Huuuuh, bir uxlab turganimcha rossa sermahsul ijod qilibsizlarku. :D Hadija Mubina, ikkovinglar ham dahshat, odobu farosatda, hayo-iboda bir birilardan qolishmaysizlar.
Sizlardan parlament deputati chiqmasa ham, eng ajoyib onalar, rafiqalar chiqadi... BOBOY, Desperado, Asadbek choy-poy, non-suv deganlaridek xizmat qilganlaring uchun rahmat. :D
ML sizga ham shirin shirin luqma tashlab turganingizga tashakkur :)
Stan Happy ;)
Desperado
10-19-2004, 07:03 AM
Ana, tap-tayyor kino-scenariya!
Ikkita kundosh... Janjal... Aytishuv... "Hay-hay" deb bosh saraklagan tomoshabinlar...
LOL, hali bunaqasi bo'lmagandi :)
Qoyile!
va Rejissor :)
Mona Lisa
10-19-2004, 07:10 AM
Haloyiq "Kunlardan bir kun.... 2" tez orada komputer ekranlariga kelib qolishi mumkin. :P
That's a marketing part
SoniTa
10-19-2004, 08:48 AM
(((:
шундай жиддий мавзуни очилтирибсилар...
Кискасини айтганда узим хам шу мавзуни куймокчи булиб турувдим.
Иккихотинликни конуний килинса бу хотинларга хам осонрок буларди-де:
Бир кун - уй-йигиштир-овкат-пишир-чой-опке-карьера,
бошка кун - дам-салон-магазин-театр-кандидатский-карьера, маззамасми?
Кейин яна деманд-саплай масаласига кайтсак... Шу кизларни саплайи купайиб кетса, кизлар болаларни кетидан йугуриб колмасин... Кимга канака-ю лекин менга бу хол факат "исключение" сифатида чиройли куринади... Иккихотинлик булса эса - кампетишн(ракобат) уже бошка фронтда кетади ((:
Лекин бу ерда бир шартни кайд килиш керак
Биринчи мартда уйланаётганда хотин булмиш "брачный контрактда" - иккихотинликка розиман ёки розимасман деб куйиши керак. Бу хаммани индивидуал "выбор"и.
ЗЫ. Мен бу билан дин томонидан рухсат берилган хамма нарса рухсат демокчи эмасман. Кимга канака-ю лекин 13 ёшлик кизалокни турмушга бериш бу бузуклик деб уйлайман. Манимча кодексда бу тугрисида статья хам бор - 136 (ёки 127) чамамда.
lucky14
10-19-2004, 10:35 AM
Wow, this is so crazy. Many posts really made me sick. Let alone men (of course they would feel great to legalize their 'left/right side off visits of other women' by the second marriages, how can women tolerate that? Did you think of what kind of fights would be between children? Isn't this polygomy made our countries so weak because of interfamily fights? And guys, how would you think if your wife would come up to you and say: "Well, what do you think, honey about me having a second husband?" Judge your feelings about that situation and that's exactly what a woman feels too!
Well, this is my opinion about the multi marriages anyways. :(
Mogul
10-19-2004, 01:38 PM
Dil wrote:
Kunlardan bir kun turmush ortog`ingiz,sizga kutilmagan savol bilan murojaat qildi:......(ismingiz) ,...bir savol bersam javob beroliysanmi??,-tabiyki,siz jilmayib ,savolga savol bilan javob berasiz. -A, qanaqa??
umr yoldoshingiz bir oz mulohazaga borib ,deydi:
-Agar men yana bir marta oylansam......rozi bolarmiding???
It means that you are not satisfying him as wife anymore so that he is looking for an adventure aside. Or it might be that he fell in love with somebody else OR even it is kind of repentance after “crime”. Maybe he already has somebody so that he wants to legalize his relations.
Lucky14 wrote:
Guys, how would you think if your wife would come up to you and say: "Well, what do you think, honey about me having a second husband?"
It also means that you found someone or love someone and your husband is not satisfying you anymore. If that would be the case in my life I would agree with my wife to have a second husband but first she would have to pass long process of divorce. Containment is not good policy in marriage. Why one would forcefully keep his/her husband/wife?
Don’t be naïve girls. Religion in this case is just a mean to achieve self desire for men. All males read only first part of verse to justify their self interest and they skip the second half which puts restrictions to that kind of marriages.
SmIlIk
10-19-2004, 01:54 PM
(((:
шундай жиддий мавзуни очилтирибсилар...
Кискасини айтганда узим хам шу мавзуни куймокчи булиб турувдим.
Иккихотинликни конуний килинса бу хотинларга хам осонрок буларди-де:
Бир кун - уй-йигиштир-овкат-пишир-чой-опке-карьера,
бошка кун - дам-салон-магазин-театр-кандидатский-карьера, маззамасми?
Кейин яна деманд-саплай масаласига кайтсак... Шу кизларни саплайи купайиб кетса, кизлар болаларни кетидан йугуриб колмасин... Кимга канака-ю лекин менга бу хол факат "исключение" сифатида чиройли куринади... Иккихотинлик булса эса - кампетишн(ракобат) уже бошка фронтда кетади ((:
Лекин бу ерда бир шартни кайд килиш керак
Биринчи мартда уйланаётганда хотин булмиш "брачный контрактда" - иккихотинликка розиман ёки розимасман деб куйиши керак. Бу хаммани индивидуал "выбор"и.
ЗЫ. Мен бу билан дин томонидан рухсат берилган хамма нарса рухсат демокчи эмасман. Кимга канака-ю лекин 13 ёшлик кизалокни турмушга бериш бу бузуклик деб уйлайман. Манимча кодексда бу тугрисида статья хам бор - 136 (ёки 127) чамамда.
:)))))))))))))))))
lucky14
10-19-2004, 02:29 PM
It means that you are not satisfying him as wife anymore so that he is looking for an adventure aside. Or it might be that he fell in love with somebody else OR even it is kind of repentance after “crime”. Maybe he already has somebody so that he wants to legalize his relations.
It also means that you found someone or love someone and your husband is not satisfying you anymore. If that would be the case in my life I would agree with my wife to have a second husband but first she would have to pass long process of divorce. Containment is not good policy in marriage. Why one would forcefully keep his/her husband/wife?
Don’t be na?ve girls. Religion in this case is just a mean to achieve self desire for men. All males read only first part of verse to justify their self interest and they skip the second half which puts restrictions to that kind of marriages.
Well, I guess you got my point wrong. Because what I tried to point out was that in such a holy thing as a marriage, both sides should equally respect and trust each other, and not think about any chance to sneak and cheat on the side. And usually who violates that 'unwritten' but the most obvious sacred bond - males. The surprising thing for me in this topic was how lightly and easily females were supportive of polygomy :(.
I am married myself and Ollohga shukur am very happy with my marriage and my husband.
Wolfman
10-19-2004, 04:13 PM
Wow, this is so crazy. Many posts really made me sick. Let alone men (of course they would feel great to legalize their 'left/right side off visits of other women' by the second marriages, how can women tolerate that? Did you think of what kind of fights would be between children? Isn't this polygomy made our countries so weak because of interfamily fights? And guys, how would you think if your wife would come up to you and say: "Well, what do you think, honey about me having a second husband?" Judge your feelings about that situation and that's exactly what a woman feels too! :( Ha lucky, buni san tushunmasang kerak baribir. Agar erkak haqiqiy erkak bo'lsa, QAND bilan QAMCHIni o'z o'rnida ishlatolsa, hech qanaqangi kundoshlar va farzandlar orasida fight bo'lmaydi. :D
Ko'pxotinlilik EGOISM ga asoslangan G'arbda ishlamasligi mumkin.
Oilaviy majorolarning ko'payishi bu Islomning bizdan ko'tarilgani sababli, Siz aytgandek polygamy sababli emas...
Man hammaning ikkitadan xotini bo'lishi kerak demoqchi emasman. Eplagan, shartlarni bajargan, chora topolmaganlar uchun bu narsa... Sharoitdan kelib chiqib...
Masalan o'ylab qara, san bittasiga uylanding, u ayol bepusht bo'lib chiqdi. Uni juda yaxshi ko'rasan, lekin undan ajrololmaysan, shu bilan birga farzand ko'rgin ham keladi. Mana shu payti ikkinchi xotin muammo yechimi bo'lishi mumkin.
Stan Friend
Mogul
10-19-2004, 04:38 PM
Well, I guess you got my point wrong. Because what I tried to point out was that in such a holy thing as a marriage, both sides should equally respect and trust each other, and not think about any chance to sneak and cheat on the side. And usually who violates that 'unwritten' but the most obvious sacred bond - males. The surprising thing for me in this topic was how lightly and easily females were supportive of polygomy :(.
I am married myself and Ollohga shukur am very happy with my marriage and my husband.
if you are married and happy with your husband why you speculating like "If wife asks husband to have second husband.......". Only if you are unhappy with your marriage you will ask such questions.
So you said that guys are violating the rule. But I think it means that they are very unhappy with their wifes. So instead blaming males in cheating try to ask yourself WHY THIS BASTARD IS CHEATING? Well I am sure that you will find answer in yourself. So here is point:
When husband asks what if he will marry to another woman? It means the wife is not fullfilling her duties. And visa-versa If woman starts to think about other males it means that her husband is not fulfilling his duties.
If you are happy with your marriage it means that your husband fulfilling his duties and obligations and now ask him whether he is happy with you? If he says YES it means that you are a good wife. If he starts to think about second marriage and try to justify it with any religious books, it means he is not satisfied with you.
Your second point is you are distressing with the females choice. Well excuse me but you are not the only who has brain. According to them maybe such a life style is more preferable then what you like. So you have no rights to blame them and teach them what is right and what is wrong.
SoniTa
10-19-2004, 06:41 PM
Ha lucky, buni san tushunmasang kerak baribir. Agar erkak haqiqiy erkak bo'lsa, QAND bilan QAMCHIni o'z o'rnida ishlatolsa, hech qanaqangi kundoshlar va farzandlar orasida fight bo'lmaydi. :D
Икки хотин бир булиб канд ва камчини сизга нисбатан ишлатиб куймасин (((:
ganjubas
10-19-2004, 08:29 PM
Купчилик бир хотинни хам еблолмийди. Базиларга эса бир хотин камлик килади. Одамлар хар хил булади. Саволга жавоб хам хар хил булиши керак.
Еблолганга ташаккур, еблолмий иккитани олган ахмо ;)
Wolfman
10-19-2004, 08:44 PM
Икки хотин бир булиб канд ва камчини сизга нисбатан ишлатиб куймасин (((:
Saniya xonum,
Agar kamina ular birlan to'shakni tark etsalar, mullo mingan eshakdak muloyim bo'lib qolurlar, aksincha, kaminani ko'nglini olish uchum musobaqa qilurlar :D :lool::loveyes:
Stan Happy ;)
SoniTa
10-19-2004, 09:09 PM
Saniya xonum,
Agar kamina ular birlan to'shakni tark etsalar, mullo mingan eshakdak muloyim bo'lib qolurlar, aksincha, kaminani ko'nglini olish uchum musobaqa qilurlar :D :lool::loveyes:
Stan Happy ;)
Если хочешь рассмешить Б-га, расскажи ему о своих желаниях... :D
BOBOY
10-19-2004, 10:53 PM
(((:
шундай жиддий мавзуни очилтирибсилар...
Кискасини айтганда узим хам шу мавзуни куймокчи булиб турувдим.
Иккихотинликни конуний килинса бу хотинларга хам осонрок буларди-де:
Бир кун - уй-йигиштир-овкат-пишир-чой-опке-карьера,
бошка кун - дам-салон-магазин-театр-кандидатский-карьера, маззамасми?
Кейин яна деманд-саплай масаласига кайтсак... Шу кизларни саплайи купайиб кетса, кизлар болаларни кетидан йугуриб колмасин... Кимга канака-ю лекин менга бу хол факат "исключение" сифатида чиройли куринади... Иккихотинлик булса эса - кампетишн(ракобат) уже бошка фронтда кетади ((:
Лекин бу ерда бир шартни кайд килиш керак
Биринчи мартда уйланаётганда хотин булмиш "брачный контрактда" - иккихотинликка розиман ёки розимасман деб куйиши керак. Бу хаммани индивидуал "выбор"и.
ЗЫ. Мен бу билан дин томонидан рухсат берилган хамма нарса рухсат демокчи эмасман. Кимга канака-ю лекин 13 ёшлик кизалокни турмушга бериш бу бузуклик деб уйлайман. Манимча кодексда бу тугрисида статья хам бор - 136 (ёки 127) чамамда.
Competition bo'gani yahshiku lekin bu competition cold war ga aylanib ketmasmikin? :D
BOBOY
10-19-2004, 10:56 PM
Saniya xonum,
Agar kamina ular birlan to'shakni tark etsalar, mullo mingan eshakdak muloyim bo'lib qolurlar, aksincha, kaminani ko'nglini olish uchum musobaqa qilurlar :D :lool::loveyes:
Stan Happy ;)
tag'in ikkalasi birlashib sudga bervormasin erlik vazivafisini o'tashdan voz kechmoqda bungayam statya bor shekilli
omad
BOBOY
10-19-2004, 11:01 PM
Haloyiq "Kunlardan bir kun.... 2" tez orada komputer ekranlariga kelib qolishi mumkin. :P
That's a marketing part
da yahshi fikr reklama qilish kere keng ommani jalb qilish uchun masalan metrolarda ostanovkalada bo'sh yotgan "zdes mogla bi vasha reklama " digan joylarni to'ldirish kere
Kim sponsorlik qilolidi?
Hadija
10-19-2004, 11:05 PM
da yahshi fikr reklama qilish kere keng ommani jalb qilish uchun masalan metrolarda ostanovkalada bo'sh yotgan "zdes mogla bi vasha reklama " digan joylarni to'ldirish kere
Kim sponsorlik qilolidi?Bunga ham e`lon berish keremidi?? shunaqa mavzu ochish kerak , nazarimda..lekin bottagiladan tuzzuro sponsr chiqishiga gumonim bor bobo...:rolleyes: :lol:
Kunlardan bir kun...otgan kunlarda esimda bolsa shundai joyi bor edi:..
Oatbekni oylanishini habar topgan Kumushning Otabekka yuzlanib aytgan birinchi gapi...-Meni unutmaisizmi???, degan iborasi edi...
hay hay..agar Hudo korsatmasin bizni ayollarga bu haqda gap ochib koring-shi???
Mazkur mavzuga javob yoza olgan barcha kumush Va otabeklarga kaminaning minnatdorchiligi...Mavzu ancha chuqurlashibdi,nazarimda..qonunga kiritish darajasiga ham etibdi.Lekin bu utopiya bizning mamlakatimizda.
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Fikrimcha, bu vaziyat yozilmagan qonunligicha qolgani yahshi .Lekin men bir narsani bilishni istar edim.Ana shunday savol hayotimizda uchrab qolganda malikalarimiz ozlarini qay darajada malikalardai tuta oladilar,va alalhusus ne deb javob bergan bolur edilar...
Mubina
10-20-2004, 12:23 AM
Kunlardan bir kun...otgan kunlarda esimda bolsa shundai joyi bor edi:..
Oatbekni oylanishini habar topgan Kumushning Otabekka yuzlanib aytgan birinchi gapi...-Meni unutmaisizmi???, degan iborasi edi...
Kumushning keyingi holini ham unutmagandursiz, kim ham uni holiga tushishni hohlaydi.
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Ana shunday savol hayotimizda uchrab qolganda malikalarimiz ozlarini qay darajada malikalardai tuta oladilar,va alalhusus ne deb javob bergan bolur edilar...
Adashmasam Siz ham turmushga chiqansiz, Sizning turmush o'rtog'iz shu savol bilan Sizga murojat etsa Siz nima deysiz?
Men turmushga chiqmaganligim uchun bu narsani tasavur qilolmiman, Siz har qale turmush o'rtogizi harakterini O'zingizni harakterizi hisobga olgan holda tasavur qilib ko'ringchi. Siz bunga qanday qaragan bo'lardiz?
Javobingizni kutib qolaman,
Mubina
Mona Lisa
10-20-2004, 12:52 AM
da yahshi fikr reklama qilish kere keng ommani jalb qilish uchun masalan metrolarda ostanovkalada bo'sh yotgan "zdes mogla bi vasha reklama " digan joylarni to'ldirish kere
Kim sponsorlik qilolidi?
Albatta sponsolar topilib qolar. Kim ham bunday 5 yulduzli showga sponsorlik qilishdan voz kechardi
A tak bosh rollarda opoqilar Mubina va Hadija deyishsa bo'ldi forum.uz multiplex cinema tomoshabinga to'ladi ;)
Desperado
10-20-2004, 02:10 AM
bo'ladigan gapdan gapirila
Hadija
10-20-2004, 02:20 AM
bo'ladigan gapdan gapirilabolgan,balkim qaerdadir bolayotgan vaa bolishi ehtomolidan holi bolmagan gap gapirilayapti ,ukajon!
Desperado
10-20-2004, 02:21 AM
bolgan,balkim qaerdadir bolayotgan vaa bolishi ehtomolidan holi bolmagan gap gapirilayapti ,ukajon!
yoshiz nechi holajon?
Hadija
10-20-2004, 02:23 AM
yoshiz nechi holajon?holeez bolganimdan keyin tahmin qivalouvvuring..:) jiyan..
PainKiller
10-20-2004, 02:26 AM
:lol: Adashmadiz,orgilay,adashmadiz.....Agarrostiga kochadigan bolsam, ''bula'' manga bu haqda koop hazila bilan murojaat qilardila...biza yosh edik..va sivib - sevilib turmush qurganmiza..Osha vaqtlarda man ham siz kabi ,Sizda hech qachon ikkita hotin bolmaidi,to men bilan yahshayotgan ekansiz ,sizda faqat bitta - men yoki boshqasi boladi deb,man yagona bolaman, deb katta gapirganim bor edi ,qoqindiq..taqdir ekan farishtalar omin degan shakilli....
Ularni bitta hotinlari bor..faqat u men emas...:) Oylanganlarida biz birga yashamas edik birga ajrashmagan ham edik.Nimani lozim bilgan bolsalar shuni qildilar.mendan qarshilik bolmagan. Qiyshiq tayoqni majburlab togri qilib bolmaidi,sinib ketadi.Lekin hozir turmush ortogim bilan biz yahshi haet kechirayapmiz,koz tegmasin.:) manga hali bunaqa savol bermadilaku,lekin mani shu savolga kecha ularni ozlaridan javob olib boldim...Oylansam rozi bolarmidingiz, deb soradilar:) ?Man javob berolmadim.Faqat ,agar judayam judayam rozi bolishimni hohlasez man rozi bolardim dedim..faqat farzandimiz tugilganidan keyin..On bil oochen rad,ne za to chto ya skazala chto mojet bit`,a za to chto on ponyal nastol`ko ya lyublyu ego..esli lyubish sil`no cheloveka,nu ponostoyashemu..to ti budesh gotova na vse radi Ego samogo..mojet ya takaya uj glupaya dura..no ya ego deystvitel`no lyublyu.Ya prosto boyus` ego poteryat`,tak kak ya ego dolgo iskala...Hotya kakaya jenshina ne lyubit bit` edinstvennoy!? A On eto ponimaet i daje esli ya ob etom ne govoryu.On znaet nastol`ko budet mne trudno viterpet` vse eto.
Erlarga insofu tofiq,ayollarga esa iroda va SABR tilab...Obmanutaya, razacharovannay zhenshina staraetsya dokazat' vsem, a samoe glavnoe SAMOY SEBE, chto ne vse tak ploho i ona schastliva.
Muzh u vas, dorgaya, Kozel. On vas ni kapel'ku ne lyubit. Chelovek ne mozhet lyubit' svoyu zhenu, i v to-zhe vremya mechtat' o drugoy zhene. Ne obizhaysya moim slovam. Govoryu chto dumayu, i privedi etot primer v teryem lice, ya bi napisala to-zhe samoe. U moego otca mama edinstvennaya zhenshina. On eyo obozhaet.
PS. ti sama dala otvet voprosu-Ti prosto boyalas' ego poteryat'. I NE POVERYU ESLI SKAZHESH CHTO NE BILO BOL'NO. NI KOMU NE PONRAVITSYA DELIT' SVOEGO LYUBIMOGO CHELOVEKA Nafig celpyatsya za takogo uroda?
IMHO
Desperado
10-20-2004, 02:37 AM
holeez bolganimdan keyin tahmin qivalouvvuring..:) jiyan..
uzrkuya, singlim bo'larkansiz (-79 yil bo'sayiz), erkak kishi bilan gaplashvossiz, sal tomdan tushib gapiring.
Mubina
10-20-2004, 02:41 AM
Mona Liza qanisiz? Keyingi dubl'ni e'lon qilib uboring, bo'ling o'tib ketadi
Desperado
10-20-2004, 02:42 AM
Obmanutaya, razacharovannay zhenshina staraetsya dokazat' vsem, a samoe glavnoe SAMOY SEBE, chto ne vse tak ploho i ona schastliva.
Muzh u vas, dorgaya, Kozel. On vas ni kapel'ku ne lyubit. Chelovek ne mozhet lyubit' svoyu zhenu, i v to-zhe vremya mechtat' o drugoy zhene. Ne obizhaysya moim slovam. Govoryu chto dumayu, i privedi etot primer v teryem lice, ya bi napisala to-zhe samoe. U moego otca mama edinstvennaya zhenshina. On eyo obozhaet.
PS. ti sama dala otvet voprosu-Ti prosto boyalas' ego poteryat'. I NE POVERYU ESLI SKAZHESH CHTO NE BILO BOL'NO. NI KOMU NE PONRAVITSYA DELIT' SVOEGO LYUBIMOGO CHELOVEKA Nafig celpyatsya za takogo uroda?
IMHO
manimcha bu san uchun problema bo'masa kere, ya'ni bisexualla uchun, bitta qizzi topvosen bo'ldi :)
PS. sexual discrimination mas bu lekin, prosto maslahat.
Hadija
10-20-2004, 02:44 AM
[QUOTE=ИнкоГниТо]Obmanutaya, razacharovannay zhenshina staraetsya dokazat' vsem, a samoe glavnoe SAMOY SEBE, chto ne vse tak ploho i ona schastliva.
Muzh u vas, dorgaya, Kozel. On vas ni kapel'ku ne lyubit. Chelovek ne mozhet lyubit' svoyu zhenu, i v to-zhe vremya mechtat' o drugoy zhene. Ne obizhaysya moim slovam. , i privedi etot primer v teryem lice, ya bi napisala to-zhe samoe. U moego otca mama edinstvennaya zhenshina. On eyo obozhaet.
PS. ti sama dala otvet voprosu-Ti prosto boyalas' ego poteryat'. I NE POVERYU ESLI SKAZHESH CHTO NE BILO BOL'NO. NI KOMU NE PONRAVITSYA DELIT' SVOEGO LYUBIMOGO CHELOVEKA Nafig celpyatsya za takogo uroda?
IMHO/QUOTE]
Kto kto..no na tebya obijetsya ,prosto idiotstva....ne sporyu ,i priznayu esli chelovek kotorogo sil`no lyubish, v odin prekrassniy den` ( Olloh asrasin) zayavit chto namerevaetsya jenitsya i soglashus liya? budet konechno obidno eshe kaak obidno..No uni mani sevish sevmasligi haqida folbinlik qilishga manimcha huquqdan tashqari tajribez ham yo.Lyubit li on menya ili net eto moe lichnoe delo.Daje esli ti mne dokajesh eto s faktami ya ne poveryu ,tak kak uverena vnem.Ti prosto po drugomu vospitana..net net upasi Bog ne hochu skazat` chto ploho vospitana..no mi ne odinakovie ,ponimaesh ,chto bi otsenit` situatsiyu....
Ti mojet ooochen` umnaya,hrabraya nachitannaya,mojet mnogo chego bol`she znaesh o Jizni,ispitala nebos` trudnie momenti..no tem ne menee bud` dobra , ne vmeshivaysya v moi chuvstva,ya ne na tvoy vopros otvechala..pri etom ti budesh` bol`she uvajitel`noy..
P.S Ti ploho prochla.
Hadija
10-20-2004, 02:47 AM
uzrkuya, singlim bo'larkansiz (-79 yil bo'sayiz), erkak kishi bilan gaplashvossiz, sal tomdan tushib gapiring.Uzr ..uzr AKA! :D :D
elDoraDo
10-20-2004, 02:49 AM
...Va qolaversa Rasuli Akram(S.A.V)4 nafargacha hotin olishga huquqingiz bor deya erkalarga izn berayotganliklarida, fikrimcha ... demokratik va demografik jihatlarni ham (ayollarning soni er yuzida erkaklardan kop) nazarda tutganlar......
kelila - keyingi gal gapirishdan oldin gapimizaga aaazgina tuz sepvoramizam hay?
peace
Mona Lisa
10-20-2004, 02:50 AM
Mona Liza qanisiz? Keyingi dubl'ni e'lon qilib uboring, bo'ling o'tib ketadi
Endi kim bilan yakkama - yakka tushmoqchisiz ИнкоГниТоmi ? ;) Manga qarmasdan oluring :)
OK Round III then.
Mubina
10-20-2004, 02:50 AM
Competition bo'gani yahshiku lekin bu competition cold war ga aylanib ketmasmikin? :D
Bunaqa competitionni "O'tkan kunlarda" nima bilan yakun topganini bilmisimi?
PainKiller
10-20-2004, 02:52 AM
manimcha bu san uchun problema bo'masa kere, ya'ni bisexualla uchun, bitta qizzi topvosen bo'ldi :)
PS. sexual discrimination mas bu lekin, prosto maslahat. biselksuallig togrisidagi post haziligi hammaga allaqachon tepib bogan, san orqada qop ketibsan. Bu mani fikrim edi holos ulani postiga. Man tupurganman bittasini sevib, uylanib, yana boshqa hotinni kongli tilagan MUHABBATGA.
Hadija, Hapa bomen mendan, bu mening fikrim. i sizzi oilezga aralashishga meni na haqqim, na ishtiyoqim baland. Sizga shunaqa er yoqsa, hursandman. Hamma oziga munosib insoni topadi. Agar siz va akam, bu sharoitga "gozal" deb baho bersalaring, demak olam guliston. Siz bilan mening chindan ham fikrimiz boshacharoq ekan. Menga uylangan odam ikkinchi hotin olaman desa, janjal, u bu qimasdan, sekin etagimmi qoqib qoyaman.
imho
Mona Lisa
10-20-2004, 02:53 AM
kelila - keyingi gal gapirishdan oldin gapimizaga aaazgina tuz sepvoramizam hay?
peace
Aksincha sho'r bo'lib ketish ehtimoli bor :D
Hadija
10-20-2004, 02:53 AM
kelila - keyingi gal gapirishdan oldin gapimizaga aaazgina tuz sepvoramizam hay?
peace
tuzni ozila ta`bilaga moslab degandek..
elDoraDo
10-20-2004, 02:55 AM
[QUOTE=ИнкоГниТо]Obmanutaya, razacharovannay zhenshina staraetsya dokazat' vsem, a samoe glavnoe SAMOY SEBE, chto ne vse tak ploho i ona schastliva.
Muzh u vas, dorgaya, Kozel. On vas ni kapel'ku ne lyubit. Chelovek ne mozhet lyubit' svoyu zhenu, i v to-zhe vremya mechtat' o drugoy zhene. Ne obizhaysya moim slovam. , i privedi etot primer v teryem lice, ya bi napisala to-zhe samoe. U moego otca mama edinstvennaya zhenshina. On eyo obozhaet.
PS. ti sama dala otvet voprosu-Ti prosto boyalas' ego poteryat'. I NE POVERYU ESLI SKAZHESH CHTO NE BILO BOL'NO. NI KOMU NE PONRAVITSYA DELIT' SVOEGO LYUBIMOGO CHELOVEKA Nafig celpyatsya za takogo uroda?
IMHO/QUOTE]
Kto kto..no na tebya obijetsya ,prosto idiotstva....ne sporyu ,i priznayu esli chelovek kotorogo sil`no lyubish, v odin prekrassniy den` ( Olloh asrasin) zayavit chto namerevaetsya jenitsya i soglashus liya? budet konechno obidno eshe kaak obidno..No uni mani sevish sevmasligi haqida folbinlik qilishga manimcha huquqdan tashqari tajribez ham yo.Lyubit li on menya ili net eto moe lichnoe delo.Daje esli ti mne dokajesh eto s faktami ya ne poveryu ,tak kak uverena vnem.Ti prosto po drugomu vospitana..net net upasi Bog ne hochu skazat` chto ploho vospitana..no mi ne odinakovie ,ponimaesh ,chto bi otsenit` situatsiyu....
Ti mojet ooochen` umnaya,hrabraya nachitannaya,mojet mnogo chego bol`she znaesh o Jizni,ispitala nebos` trudnie momenti..no tem ne menee bud` dobra , ne vmeshivaysya v moi chuvstva,ya ne na tvoy vopros otvechala..pri etom ti budesh` bol`she uvajitel`noy..
P.S Ti ploho prochla.
respects
not sure the woman with these kinds of views - is unable to solve her husband problems, hehe
uvajaet sebya.
Hadija - welcome to forum.uz
p.s. post vyshe esho v sile
Mubina
10-20-2004, 02:55 AM
Endi kim bilan yakkama - yakka tushmoqchisiz ИнкоГниТоmi ? ;) Manga qarmasdan oluring :)
OK Round III then.
Bu safar bosh rollarda: Hadijahon, Desperado, SoniTa va BOBOY
Men tomoshabin,
Mubina
P>S> Inkognito toppa-to'gri gapirdi. ML o'zlaridan ham eshitayli. Share ur opinions?
elDoraDo
10-20-2004, 02:57 AM
Aksincha sho'r bo'lib ketish ehtimoli bor :D
i just meant -don't mess with religion
a umuman - shorroq bo'lgani - tuzsiz ovqatdan yaxshiroq!
PainKiller
10-20-2004, 03:00 AM
Man bir narsani tushuna olmadim-Qanaqa qilib sevgan insonga azob berishi mumkin odam?
Rozi bolarmidingiz degan savolli sorayotganda nimalar togrisida oylagan ekan, akam, aslo tushumadim. Bechora ayol ichi tokilib, kongli vayron bolishligini nahotki oylamasa. Paygambarimiz torta hotin olish mumkin deganlarida, er-hotin sevib bilib turmush qurgan emas. Kelinam, kuyovam bir birini bir marta korsa korib uy-joy qilgan. I u davrda bogan ishlarni hozirgi davrga moslasa bolmaydi. Manga agar erim, hotinjon, er yuzida hotinlar soni statistika boyicha koprog'akan, erla kamakan, Maylimi man uylansam yana? desa, Bemalol uylanorin, men pass diman. Boshqa iloji yoq. Aslo qabul qila olmayman erimning voshqa bir ayolni quchoqlab asalaim-shirinim qilishini. Astog'firillo Azim :?
Mona Lisa
10-20-2004, 03:02 AM
ML o'zlaridan ham eshitayli. Share ur opinions?
Man o'z fikrimni allaqachonlar page#1 da berganman. Qisaqa, aniq va lo'nda qilib
Egoistik javob: Yoq.
I will not give my agreement if he wants to get married to someone esle unless I divorce. Simple is that. In fact I'll take as insult if he asks me such question as 'what do you think if I get second wife?'
elDoraDo
10-20-2004, 03:04 AM
sorry for being busy with off-topics
my personal opinion:
i would better get devorced and then marry to another one...
esli konechno ona ne odnodnevka...
Desperado
10-20-2004, 03:06 AM
biselksuallig togrisidagi post haziligi hammaga allaqachon tepib bogan, san orqada qop ketibsan.
man sanga konkretniy maslahat berdim, nima qilasan erkakla bilan boshini og'ritib, tinchgina girlfriending bilan aloqa qilishing yahshiromasmi? prosto qiziqvomman :)
PainKiller
10-20-2004, 03:07 AM
man sanga konkretniy maslahat berdim, nima qilasan erkakla bilan boshini og'ritib, tinchgina girlfriending bilan aloqa qilishing yahshiromasmi? prosto qiziqvomman :) qaytaraman oshqovoqlar uchun-Biseksuallik togrisidagi post Hazil edi. Konkretniy maslahatini orqa chiqaruv teshiginga tiqib ol, iltimos ;)
Mubina
10-20-2004, 03:12 AM
sorry for being busy with off-topics
my personal opinion:
i would better get devorced and then marry to another one...
esli konechno ona ne odnodnevka...
Eng to'gri fikr,
men masalan hech qachon ishonmiman ikkita odamni bir hil sevish mumkinligini
PainKiller
10-20-2004, 03:14 AM
Eng to'gri fikr,
men masalan hech qachon ishonmiman ikkita odamni bir hil sevish mumkinligini Bu sevgimas, Udobnaya poziciya-da.
Yallama-yorim Yalla, Hotiniyam piq demidi, kochadayam handon.
Mubina, qoshilaman. Ikki insonga qaratilgan muhabbat muhabbat emas.
Albatta azhrashish kerak bunaqa sharoit boganda. Farzandlar uchun yashamoqlik esa, qopol tuyular, lekin uvol. Farzandlar otatsiz osgani, otasining boshqa ayollar bilan yurganini tushunishidan kora yahshiroq. :rolleyes:
Desperado
10-20-2004, 03:23 AM
qaytaraman oshqovoqlar uchun-Biseksuallik togrisidagi post Hazil edi. Konkretniy maslahatini orqa chiqaruv teshiginga tiqib ol, iltimos ;)
qo'ysenchi, ikkiyuzlamachilikam shunchalikmi. Bisexualsan deb hech kim sani otishga hukm qigani yogu, nimadan qo'rvossan? Bosen bo'psanda.
Orqangdan chiqargan narsangni qaytarib yevossanmi endi? yahshimas...
Maslahating uchun, rahmat, manga zarur emas, agar bu narsa o'zingga yoqsa, o'ynashingga aytsang balki, anavi narsa boru sanla ko'p ishlatadigan sex toyla, oshani orqa chiqaruv teshinginggagina emas, oldingi chiqaruv teshiginggayam birdaniga tiqib qoyadi :)
Administrator
10-20-2004, 03:27 AM
I will not give my agreement if he wants to get married to someone esle unless I divorce. Simple is that. In fact I'll take as insult if he asks me such question as 'what do you think if I get second wife?'
and what is wrong in that?
Mona Lisa
10-20-2004, 03:28 AM
Hey guys enough!!! Nima qilasila Ramazon oyida birilar bilan urishib :?
Hadija
10-20-2004, 03:29 AM
biselksuallig togrisidagi post haziligi hammaga allaqachon tepib bogan, san orqada qop ketibsan. Bu mani fikrim edi holos ulani postiga. Man tupurganman bittasini sevib, uylanib, yana boshqa hotinni kongli tilagan MUHABBATGA.
Hadija, Hapa bomen mendan, bu mening fikrim. i sizzi oilezga aralashishga meni na haqqim, na ishtiyoqim baland. Sizga shunaqa er yoqsa, hursandman. Hamma oziga munosib insoni topadi. Agar siz va akam, bu sharoitga "gozal" deb baho bersalaring, demak olam guliston. Siz bilan mening chindan ham fikrimiz boshacharoq ekan. Menga uylangan odam ikkinchi hotin olaman desa, janjal, u bu qimasdan, sekin etagimmi qoqib qoyaman.
imhoHAAA ana ..manimcha yoki siz yahshi oqimadiz yoki man yahshi tushintirolmadim chogi..Man allaqachon siz etgande etagimni yigishtirvoganman..Faqat boshqa sabablaga kora..Ula ozlarinikidan qolmadila,man qaytmadim.Taqdir lekin mani aldanib,ozini bahtli korsatishga intiolvatti deganizda adashibsiz..Vse chto ne sluchilos` poslujilo mne stimulom dlya moih dostignutih v jizni tseley..Konechno je Blagodarya Bogu.On dal me terpenie i hrabrosti chto bi ne slomatsya.Menya trudno obidet`..
I vse chto ne sluchaetsya eto ot Boga , ya tak ponimayu jizn` neznayu kak ti..no Bog menya voznogradil za vse ego ispitanie..Posle vsego,ya stala podrugomu smotret` na jizn`.I ya chetko znayu chto ya hochu i chego mne stoit delat`.Y aznayu chto mne v etoy jizni samoe vajnoe moya SEM`YA i lyudi v kotorom jivut.Ya vstretila cheloveka,kotorogo sil`no lyublyu i uvajayu.
I ya uverenno mogu skazat` chto gotova na lyubie jertva,chto bi ne poteryat` ego.
Y ot vsey dushi jelayu kajdoy devushke pochuvstvovat` v jizni bit` lyubimoy lubimim chelovekom...
Desperado
10-20-2004, 03:31 AM
Hey guys enough!!! Nima qilasila Ramazon oyida birilar bilan urishib :?
hazillashvommiz, inkognito shunaqa hazillani yoqtiradi :lol:
PainKiller
10-20-2004, 03:40 AM
hazillashvommiz, inkognito shunaqa hazillani yoqtiradi :lol: Etgancha rahmat, ruhsat berganinga biseksual bolishligimga;)
barcha istak va takliflaringni rulondagi qog'ozga yozib qoydim, Babachoq
Mona Lisa
10-20-2004, 03:43 AM
I will not give my agreement if he wants to get married to someone esle unless I divorce. Simple is that. In fact I'll take as insult if he asks me such question as 'what do you think if I get second wife?'
and what is wrong in that?
I believe that there is one man to one woman. If something wrong with wife it's better to tell openly rather than getting another wife to fullfill first one's inadequacies.
If you really like someone you will not ask such question because it is somehow means you don't want share your life with her.
You may argue it's premitted that man can have 4 wives but 1st respect the notion of 'one man to one women'
Desperado
10-20-2004, 03:50 AM
iltimos siladan, gumanist insonla, bitta savolga javob berila?
hammaga ma'lum, ko'p jamiyatlada, jumladan bizadayam, ayollar soni erkakladan ko'pro, fakt.
fakt: ayollani umr ko'rish sanasi, erkakladan ko'pro
beva, o'tirib qolgan, ajrashgan ayol va qizla nima qilishi kere? hamma erkakla yosh chiroylilarga uylanishni hohlasa?
o'sha ayyollaniyam oila qurish, bola chaqa qilishga haqlari bomi-yoki yomi? ular insonmasmi? hayvonmi ula?
ahir oshalar silani opa-singillaring, hola-ammalaring?
nimaga ularga shans bermisila? erkak yetishmasa ulaga, nima inaplanetyanlaga erga chiqishi keremi?
davayte konkretniy javob kutvomman.
Administrator
10-20-2004, 03:52 AM
I believe that there is one man to one woman. If something wrong with wife it's better to tell openly rather than getting another wife to fullfill first one's inadequacies.
If you really like someone you will not ask such question because it is somehow means you don't want share your life with her.
You may argue it's premitted that man can have 4 wives but 1st respect the notion of 'one man to one women'
but if first wife herself does not want to divorce with his husband when he is even gonig to have second wife?
commn it has nothing to do with such like thing 'jenskaya gordost'. that is why god had permited polygamy.
PainKiller
10-20-2004, 03:55 AM
but if first wife herself does not want to divorce with his husband when he is even gonig to have second wife?
commn it has nothing to do with such like thing 'jenskaya gordost'. that is why god had permited polygamy. Administrato, question to u, if u do not mind. What can be the reasons which make women not to devorce? Could u give ur IMHOs on this point and subscribe the main at least 5 reasons, supporting ur thoughts. Thank u
Administrator
10-20-2004, 04:01 AM
Administrato, question to u, if u do not mind. What can be the reasons which make women not to devorce? Could u give ur IMHOs on this point and subscribe the main at least 5 reasons, supporting ur thoughts. Thank u
ask it from women ...
Administrator
10-20-2004, 04:05 AM
iltimos siladan, gumanist insonla, .
bilasizmi gay marriegelarni legalizavat qilish kere dep dod voy solyapganlar polygamini legalzavat qilishga qarshi bolishadi looooool
erkaklar bibirini {beep} qilishi moralnida polygami yani heterosexual oila qurish ammoral emish lool
PainKiller
10-20-2004, 04:06 AM
ask it from women ... I need ur opinion. I am not asking u to help this problem for the sake of Me. I am just asking u to give me ur assumptions.:rolleyes:
Mona Lisa
10-20-2004, 04:10 AM
fakt: ayollani umr ko'rish sanasi, erkakladan ko'pro
beva, o'tirib qolgan, ajrashgan ayol va qizla nima qilishi kere? hamma erkakla yosh chiroylilarga uylanishni hohlasa?
o'sha ayyollaniyam oila qurish, bola chaqa qilishga haqlari bomi-yoki yomi? ular insonmasmi? hayvonmi ula?
ahir oshalar silani opa-singillaring, hola-ammalaring?
nimaga ularga shans bermisila? erkak yetishmasa ulaga, nima inaplanetyanlaga erga chiqishi keremi?
davayte konkretniy javob kutvomman.
OK
If women have longer life expectancy than men then does it mean men has to marry at least 2 females ? :) Probably not.
Is there any consideration that maybe those diverced/widow females don't want to get married again? In fact why those females divorce in the first place???
Marriage is not something to fill up empty space. So marry to someone just because she is divorced is utterly disrespectful. Everyone wants to have a family with a loving and caring bonds not just taking pity out of thier situation.
Plus, these days society isn't not much of in need for multiple marriages and become more egostic. Also women can support thier family materially if that's greatest concern.
PainKiller
10-20-2004, 04:10 AM
o'sha ayyollaniyam oila qurish, bola chaqa qilishga haqlari bomi-yoki yomi? ular insonmasmi? hayvonmi ula?
ahir oshalar silani opa-singillaring, hola-ammalaring?
Demak, sizni togri tushungan bosam, ularga rahm shavqat qilib, ozimning erimga uylanishga rozi bolishim kere?
Jonginam, endi siz masalaning ikkinchi tomoniga qarab boqing. Osha inson bilan oila qurgan, ming umidlar bilan ayollarchi? ular sizga singil yokiamma emasmi? Tasavvur qiling singlingiz, aka, erim yana bitta hotinga uylanaman dedi, yoki oyingiz, oglim, adangning yana bir hotin olishiga nima disan? Shu desen, Dunyoda ayollar erkaklardan kopakan, i shularni oylab qaror qildim, desa, nima his qilasiz?
Desperado
10-20-2004, 04:11 AM
bilasizmi gay marriegelarni legalizavat qilish kere dep dod voy solyapganlar polygamini legalzavat qilishga qarshi bolishadi looooool
erkaklar bibirini {beep} qilishi moralnida polygami yani heterosexual oila qurish ammoral emish lool
mdaa, very good point :thumbs:
Administrator
10-20-2004, 04:14 AM
I need ur opinion. I am not asking u to help this problem for the sake of Me. I am just asking u to give me ur assumptions.:rolleyes:
at first many women dont want tebe be divorsed single mother
2.she can be in very deep love with her husband
3. she can not have a baby but not against if her husband will have child from another woman but and will not relations with her also
4....yourself can continue this list better then me.
what i had said was what i heard from real life i know one women who is very happy that his husband finally has a child form his second wife but also living with her(not divorced) she and his new wife are friends now ..i found nothing haram on this .even it is permited in our religion..
elDoraDo
10-20-2004, 04:16 AM
endi ikkinchi Threadni ochila -
Kunlardan bir kun.... yaqin o'gayniz sizga kelib:
sen bilan perespat qisam mayhlimi?" deb so'rasa nima qilardiz degan
Ramadan Season Hits, heh
Desperado
10-20-2004, 04:24 AM
OK
Marriage is not something to fill up empty space. So marry to someone just because she is divorced is utterly disrespectful. Everyone wants to have a family with a loving and caring bonds not just taking pity out of thier situation.
Plus, these days society isn't not much of in need for multiple marriages and become more egostic. Also women can support thier family materially if that's greatest concern.
Lisa xonim, ilk qarashda, gapizda jon borga ohshidi, lekin, sevgi muhabbat degan narsala bilan birga social justice degan narsalayam bor, esizdan chiqarmen.
bundan tashqari mani somiladan juda kop tanishlarim bor, ayollari bilan bazan gaplashib turaman. ularni masalan bir necha kundoshlari bor, lekin shu paytgacha hech birini noliganini eshitmadim. 'erim hammamaizga birday munosabatda bosa yetarlik' deyishadi.
Manimcha shu holatda kophotinlilik judayam qo'l keladi. ahir bitta erkakka 3 ta ayol tog;ri tushib tursa, 3/2 qism bechora hotinla nima qilishi kere-a??
PainKiller
10-20-2004, 04:25 AM
at first many women dont want tebe be divorsed single mother
2.she can be in very deep love with her husband
3. she can not have a baby but not against if her husband will have child from another woman but and will not relations with her also
4....yourself can continue this list better then me.
what i had said was what i heard from real life i know one women who is very happy that his husband finally has a child form his second wife but also living with her(not divorced) she and his new wife are friends now ..i found nothing haram on this .even it is permited in our religion.. That woman is just scared of being left, it has nothing to do with her feelings.
If u think that she was very happy and jumped for joy for the other wife to give a birht to a baby, not her, u r mistaken. That woman is just happy that the fact of her impossibility to carry and deliver a baby, did not become a reason for loosing her man. Sure, what else could she do?
Actually, it is a double as pain as accepting that another woman could give ur man the thing u were not able to give him urself, than accepting his second wife or however u call that.
The reason why woman does not divorce her husband:
-always hopes that he will come back to her, and the second wife is a temporary game;
-already have kids, and do not want them grow without a father; But would a man accept a cheater wife, thinking that it is bad for kids to grow without a mother? noway. But Women do. Ridiculous;
-Tradiitions and family honor issue. Whatever happens after marriage, a good wife does not complain and keeps everything secret. Including phisical and moral abuses and stuff;
-Scare and ridiculous dependence on public opinion.
all these above-have nothing to do with love. It is a life ussue. I just wanted to prove, that saying "I accepted hs second wife, because whatever is good for him is good for me" is a lie. Everytime, in the family when husband cheats, or marries another woman, first wife is hurt, and goes through pain. And does accept it, if she can. But definetely she is not happy about that fact.
Administrator
10-20-2004, 04:28 AM
That woman is just scared of being left, it has nothing to do with her feelings.
If u think that she was very happy and jumped for joy for the other wife to give a birht to a baby, not her, u r mistaken. That woman is just happy that the fact of her impossibility to carry and deliver a baby, did not become a reason for loosing her man. Sure, what else could she do?
Actually, it is a double as pain as accepting that another woman could give ur man the thing u were not able to give him urself, than accepting his second wife or however u call that.
The reason why woman does not divorce her husband:
-always hopes that he will come back to her, and the second wife is a temporary game;
-already have kids, and do not want them grow without a father; But would a man accept a cheater wife, thinking that it is bad for kids to grow without a mother? noway. But Women do. Ridiculous;
-Tradiitions and family honor issue. Whatever happens after marriage, a good wife does not complain and keeps everything secret. Including phisical and moral abuses and stuff;
-Scare and ridiculous dependence on public opinion.
all these above-have nothing to do with love. It is a life ussue. I just wanted to prove, that saying "I accepted hs second wife, because whatever is good for him is good for me" is a lie. Everytime, in the family when husband cheats, or marries another woman, first wife is hurt, and goes through pain. And does accept it, if she can. But definetely she is not happy about that fact.
so what _???life is not easy ..eto esho svetochki ..
Desperado
10-20-2004, 04:30 AM
Demak, sizni togri tushungan bosam, ularga rahm shavqat qilib, ozimning erimga uylanishga rozi bolishim kere?
Jonginam, endi siz masalaning ikkinchi tomoniga qarab boqing. Osha inson bilan oila qurgan, ming umidlar bilan ayollarchi? ular sizga singil yokiamma emasmi? Tasavvur qiling singlingiz, aka, erim yana bitta hotinga uylanaman dedi, yoki oyingiz, oglim, adangning yana bir hotin olishiga nima disan? Shu desen, Dunyoda ayollar erkaklardan kopakan, i shularni oylab qaror qildim, desa, nima his qilasiz?
the post reads funny,
but
i do not see any big reason why polygamy should not be allowed.
mani tanishlarimdan shunaqa chiqadigan bo'sa, o'zlaringni oralaringda hal qilaverila diman, mani qarshiligim yo.
Another big point, people, having second wife is only permitted when the first wife allows his husband to do so. Otherwise husband can not have another wife. Dont forget this point, its important.
Wolfman
10-20-2004, 05:13 PM
iltimos siladan, gumanist insonla, bitta savolga javob berila?
hammaga ma'lum, ko'p jamiyatlada, jumladan bizadayam, ayollar soni erkakladan ko'pro, fakt.
fakt: ayollani umr ko'rish sanasi, erkakladan ko'pro
beva, o'tirib qolgan, ajrashgan ayol va qizla nima qilishi kere? hamma erkakla yosh chiroylilarga uylanishni hohlasa?
o'sha ayyollaniyam oila qurish, bola chaqa qilishga haqlari bomi-yoki yomi? ular insonmasmi? hayvonmi ula?
ahir oshalar silani opa-singillaring, hola-ammalaring?
nimaga ularga shans bermisila? erkak yetishmasa ulaga, nima inaplanetyanlaga erga chiqishi keremi?
davayte konkretniy javob kutvomman.
Desperado, agar mamalakat boshlig'i bo'lib qolsam, san Ijtimoiy masalalar vaziri qilib saylayman :D
Stan
Hammadan uzr so'rayman bahsga aralashganim uchun :)
Men hali uylanmaganman (Xudoga shukur :) ) Toshkentda bir tanishim (do'st) bor. Ismini ma'lum sabablarga ko'ra aytmayman.
U yigit o'zi IT technology bo'yicha mutaxassis. Bir hovlida uchta ayoli bilan yashaydi. Qizig'i shundaki, ayollari o'zlari bir-birlarini topib, erlariga tavsiya qilganlar. To'rtinchi ayoli boshqa respublika/boshqa shahardan edi. U ayolning ammasimi yoki xolasi kelib, zo'rlik bilan eridan ajratib olib ketgan va turmushga bergan. Lekin hozirgacha sobiq er va ayol xabarlashib turishadi.
Tanishim aytganimdek, topish-tutishi yaxshi. Ayollarini moddiy-ma'naviy jihatdan ta'minlagan. O'rtancha ayolimi yoki kenjasimi, anig'i esimda yo'q, universitetda o'qiydi.
Bilmadim, lekin men o'sha tanishimning uchta ayol bilan bitta hovlida, bitta uyda yashashini bilganimda/o'zim guvohi bo'lganimda, lol qolganman. Bir-birlariga muomalasi juda zo'r, harholda men ularnikida mehmonga borganda ikkiyuzlamachilik qilishgan deb aytolmayman. Er ham ayollarining barchasiga birdek muomala qiladi, sovg'a-salom olib keladi, erkalaydi, farzandlarga e'tibor beradi, qisqasi moddiy va ma'naviy jihatdan to'la-to'kis qilib qo'ygan. Ayollar va farzandlar ham bir-birlariga opa-singildek muomala qilishadi.
Ma'lumot uchun: yigitning yoshi 26 da.
Mavlonooo,togri sezibsiz, ozbekistonda ,hususan Toshkentda juda kop bir hovlida ikkita ayoli bilan turmush kechirayotgan erkaklar yohud shundayin oilalar.Yana shuni ta`kidlash kerakki ularning aksariyati nufuzli,obro`ga ega va qolaversa el=yurt taniydigan insonlardir.Men ham bir shunga misol keltirishim mumkin.Juda galati vaziyat desa ham boladi..( balki galatimasdir)
Meni kursdoshim oziga toq ,badavlat bir honadonga kelin bolib tushgan ismini Sayora deb turaylik.Osha Sayyorani ikkita qaynonasi bor edi.Qaynotasini toshkentda kopchilik taniydi. Biri erining haqiqiy onasi,biri esa qaynonasini kundoshi.Bitta hovlida turishmasada ular bir biri bilan juda ahil va muomalada ham ularni oldiga hech kim tusha olmaidi. sayyorani qaynotasi kunda rozgor qilib u honadonni ham bu honadonni ham kaftida kotaradi.Farzandlari ham qanchalar balogatga etgan bolmasin otasining ikkinchi hotini bilan bemalols irlashib maslahatlashib turishadi...Man osha honadonda hizmat yuzasidan bolganman,u erda Sayyorani ikkita qaynonasidan tashqari osha vaqtda yana uchta qaynona buvilari ham yashashar edi.. Oziz oylab koring shuncha qaynona ichida yashab muomala qilish uchun naqadar kuchli va sabr iroda talab qilinadi insondan.Man hamma ikkita hotinlik bolishi kerak deyayotganim yoq,faqat ayol kishi har qanday vaziyatda, o`zligini saqlay bilishi,azaldan ozbek ayollariga hos bolgan ibo,hayo,nafosat,iroda sabr, qolaversa, ichki gozallik degan tushunchalarni saqlab qola bilishi kerak deb oylayman.Agar har birimiz ana shu hislatlarga ega bolsak,aminmanki yigitlaruimiz bizni boshqa ayollarga almashmaidilar va kozlari ham qiymaidi.....Faqat poydevorni oldindan mustahkamlamoq kerak. Yana Hudo poshsho,kim biladi deysiz..Insof bersin barchamizga Yaratganning ozi....
Men ham bir shunga misol keltirishim mumkin.Juda galati vaziyat desa ham boladi..( balki galatimasdir)....[/QUOTE]
esimdan kotarilibdi galati deganimni boisi bor edi...Osha sayyorani bir necha yil oldin turmush ortogi vafot etgan edi..Oilada qaynotaning orni shu qadar baland ediki,uning ruhsatisiz,uiga qaytib ketmadi ,ortogim.Man sani ozim uzataman,Farzandingni ham ozim boqaman,qiyinchilik kormaisan dedi.shundai boldi ham.U qainotasini izmidan chiqmadi.Ohir oqibat ..erining ukasiga ,ya`ni qainisiga juda katta toy qilib olib berishdi.yaqinda Sayyorani kordim.toshklentda.Menga Bahtlidek korindi..lekin bu haqda soray olmadim..
..hamma narsani kutish mumkin hayotdan....
Mubina
10-20-2004, 09:17 PM
4 ayol bilan bitta hovlida, bir uyda yashaydi, ayollarining biri rus millatiga, biri tojik millatiga, qolgan ikkitasi o'zbek (aniq bilmayman, biri qirg'iz millatiga mansub.
Assorti-ku?
Bo'ldi qaytib elkami chuquri ko'rsin bu threadni, haroratim oshib ketayabti bu erdagi "misollardan",
Wassalama,
Mubina
Mubina
10-20-2004, 09:26 PM
postlarimdan qizlarimiz noto'g'ri xulosa chiqarmasliklarini istardim.
ya'ni, meni ko'pxotinlilikni targ'ib qilayapti deb o'ylashlari mumkin.
menimcha, bu yerda qizlar-yigitlar bu masalaga qanday munosabatda ekanliklarini yetarli darajada aytib o'tishdi. lekin biz istaymizmi-yo'qmi, turli sabablar bilan turmushga chiqmay qolayotgan ayollarimiz ham, e'tirozlarga qaramay bir necha ayolga uylanayotgan erkaklar ham anchagina.
xo'sh, unda masalaning echimi nimada? turmushga chiqmayotgan ayollar nima qilishlari kerak? ko'pxotinlilik qonunan ta'qiqlangani bilan baribir bir necha ayolga uylanayotgan erkaklar borligi sir emas. poligamiya shuning uchun ham qonuniylashtirilishi kerakki, 1-rasmi nikohdan keyin olingan ayollarning huquqlari ham qonunan himoya qilinsin. aks holda, u ayollarda na ZAGS qog'ozi bor, na huquq - istagan paytda eri uni taloq qilishi va ayol na farzandi uchun moddiy yordamsiz va na o'zi boshqa bir ko'maksiz qolishi mumkin. poligamiya qonuniylashtirilsa, bir erning to'rt xotini ham ma'lum huquqlarga ega bo'ladi.
masalani hal qilishning bu usuliga ashaddiy feminist, doim genderni targ'ib qiluvchi bir amerikalik ayol ham qo'shildi :)
P.S. men diniy ulamo emasman. lekin dindan yaxshigina xabari bor bir akamizdan shu haqda so'ragandim. hazillashib "men imkon tug'ilsa, 4-5 ayolga uylanmoqchiman" desam, "qiyin masala" deb kuldi va quyidagi hikoyani aytib berdi:
Bir boy-badavlat, har tomonlama to'kis kishi ayolining roziligi bilan yana bir marta uylanibdi. U ikkala rafiqasini ham juda sevarkan, ikkalasiga ham birdek muomala qilarkan (moddiy-ma'naviy-jinsiy va hokazo), har bayramda sovg'alar ulasharkan. Ayollar ham bir-birlari bilan juda ahil yashasharkan, ularda erga nisbatan da'volar ham yo'q ekan.
Bir kuni, qismatni qarangki, u kishining ikkala ayoli ham birdaniga vafot etibdi. Er juda g'am chekibdi, ikkalasini ham munosib tarzda oxirgi yo'lga uzatishga qaror qilibdi. Janoza o'qilib, tobutlarni qabristonga eltish uchun darvozadan chiqarish paytida er o'ylanib qolibdi. Qaysi tobutni, avval katta xotininingmi yoki kenja xotinining tobutini avval chiqarsin darvozadan? Axir hayotlik chog'larida ikkalasini ham juda sevardi, birdek sevardi, hech qachon biridan yashirincha ikkinchisiga o'zgacha izzat-ikrom ko'rsatgan emas o'ksimasinlar deb? Qisqasi, er o'sha zahoti devorni buzdirib, yana qo'shimcha darvoza qurdiribdi va ikkala xotinning tobutini bir vaqtning o'zida tashqariga olib chiqishibdi.
Qabristondan qaytgach, azador er charcab, ko'zi ilinibdi. Tushiga katta ayoli kiribdi, eridan arazlagandek ko'rinarmish. Er hayron bo'lib, "Ha nima bo'ldi, nega gapirging kelmaydi menga" desa, katta xotini "Siz kenja xotiningizni mendan ko'ra ko'proq yaxshi ko'rarkansiz" debdi. Er aytibdi: "Nega unday deyapsan, axir o'zing bilasanku, ikkalangizni ham birdek sevaman". Katta xotin aytarmish: "Yo'q, agar meni kenja xotiningiz bilan teng ko'rganingizda, uning tobutini yangi darvozadan chiqarmagan bo'lardingiz".
Qissadan hissa: eng murosasoz qiz/ayol ham erining yana boshqaga uylanishiga sirtidan bildirmasa ham, ich-ichidan baribir g'ashlik qilarkan :)
endi shu hikoyani qoyib ketmoqchi edim,
baraka toping
R.Azimov
10-20-2004, 09:27 PM
БРАВО MAVLONO
BOBOY
10-20-2004, 09:31 PM
Manam bo'masa bir savol beri erkelaga
O'zilani singlila yoki opela kimmidur ikkinchi,uchinchi yoki to'rtinchi hotini bo'lishiga qanaqa qaragan bo'lardila ?
postlarimdan qizlarimiz noto'g'ri xulosa chiqarmasliklarini istardim.
ya'ni, meni ko'pxotinlilikni targ'ib qilayapti deb o'ylashlari mumkin.
menimcha, bu yerda qizlar-yigitlar bu masalaga qanday munosabatda ekanliklarini yetarli darajada aytib o'tishdi. lekin biz istaymizmi-yo'qmi, turli sabablar bilan turmushga chiqmay qolayotgan ayollarimiz ham, e'tirozlarga qaramay bir necha ayolga uylanayotgan erkaklar ham anchagina.
xo'sh, unda masalaning echimi nimada? turmushga chiqmayotgan ayollar nima qilishlari kerak? ko'pxotinlilik qonunan ta'qiqlangani bilan baribir bir necha ayolga uylanayotgan erkaklar borligi sir emas. poligamiya shuning uchun ham qonuniylashtirilishi kerakki, 1-rasmi nikohdan keyin olingan ayollarning huquqlari ham qonunan himoya qilinsin. aks holda, u ayollarda na ZAGS qog'ozi bor, na huquq - istagan paytda eri uni taloq qilishi va ayol na farzandi uchun moddiy yordamsiz va na o'zi boshqa bir ko'maksiz qolishi mumkin. poligamiya qonuniylashtirilsa, bir erning to'rt xotini ham ma'lum huquqlarga ega bo'ladi.
masalani hal qilishning bu usuliga ashaddiy feminist, doim genderni targ'ib qiluvchi bir amerikalik ayol ham qo'shildi :)
P.S. men diniy ulamo emasman. lekin dindan yaxshigina xabari bor bir akamizdan shu haqda so'ragandim. hazillashib "men imkon tug'ilsa, 4-5 ayolga uylanmoqchiman" desam, "qiyin masala" deb kuldi va quyidagi hikoyani aytib berdi:
Bir boy-badavlat, har tomonlama to'kis kishi ayolining roziligi bilan yana bir marta uylanibdi. U ikkala rafiqasini ham juda sevarkan, ikkalasiga ham birdek muomala qilarkan (moddiy-ma'naviy-jinsiy va hokazo), har bayramda sovg'alar ulasharkan. Ayollar ham bir-birlari bilan juda ahil yashasharkan, ularda erga nisbatan da'volar ham yo'q ekan.
Bir kuni, qismatni qarangki, u kishining ikkala ayoli ham birdaniga vafot etibdi. Er juda g'am chekibdi, ikkalasini ham munosib tarzda oxirgi yo'lga uzatishga qaror qilibdi. Janoza o'qilib, tobutlarni qabristonga eltish uchun darvozadan chiqarish paytida er o'ylanib qolibdi. Qaysi tobutni, avval katta xotininingmi yoki kenja xotinining tobutini avval chiqarsin darvozadan? Axir hayotlik chog'larida ikkalasini ham juda sevardi, birdek sevardi, hech qachon biridan yashirincha ikkinchisiga o'zgacha izzat-ikrom ko'rsatgan emas o'ksimasinlar deb? Qisqasi, er o'sha zahoti devorni buzdirib, yana qo'shimcha darvoza qurdiribdi va ikkala xotinning tobutini bir vaqtning o'zida tashqariga olib chiqishibdi.
Qabristondan qaytgach, azador er charcab, ko'zi ilinibdi. Tushiga katta ayoli kiribdi, eridan arazlagandek ko'rinarmish. Er hayron bo'lib, "Ha nima bo'ldi, nega gapirging kelmaydi menga" desa, katta xotini "Siz kenja xotiningizni mendan ko'ra ko'proq yaxshi ko'rarkansiz" debdi. Er aytibdi: "Nega unday deyapsan, axir o'zing bilasanku, ikkalangizni ham birdek sevaman". Katta xotin aytarmish: "Yo'q, agar meni kenja xotiningiz bilan teng ko'rganingizda, uning tobutini yangi darvozadan chiqarmagan bo'lardingiz".
Qissadan hissa: eng murosasoz qiz/ayol ham erining yana boshqaga uylanishiga sirtidan bildirmasa ham, ich-ichidan baribir g'ashlik qilarkan :)
Hattoki Rasuli Akram (S.A.V) ayollari ham bir nechtasi til biriktoirib ,boshqa bir ayollarinikida kop qolib ketayotganliklariga gashlari kelib hiyla uyushtirganliklarini yaqinda hadisda oqib,hayron qolgan edim...Esimda yoq qaysi ayolll biolan bolgan bu voqea.lekin haqiqatligi aniq.
qadimda osha ayol erini ozi oylanishiga rozi bolib bosh qosh bolgan va nikoh kechasi, alamning achiqligidan tavonini kesagan ekan( boshqa rivoyatlarda tikan ustidan qanday yalang oyoq otganini sezmagan ekan ,er bermoqlikni dardini kuchliligidan)
Er bermoq,jon bermoq deydilar Mavlonoo...Bu erda ha man oylantoirishim mumkin erimni,deguvchilar topiladi,bir qarashda osondek..lekin osha vaziyatda
hammaning ham bunga jasorati etavermaidi....
'' Jannatga kundoshi bilan ahil kun kechirgan,va hamisha eriga itoatda bolgan ayollar kirishga koproq haqli ekanlar''(hadisdan) Yana osha Hadisda yozilishicha,Ayol kishiga koproq ota-onasidan kora eri haqliroq deyilgan...
ishqilib, shunaqa gaplar :)
mdaaaaaaaaa
PainKiller
10-21-2004, 01:15 AM
Vse tut privodyat primeri iz Hadisov, iz zhizni. I mol ne vse tak i ploho. U narsani qanaqaligini, qizlar:eriz ustizga kundosh oganda bilasiz;
erkaklar:singlingiz, oyingiz, qizingizning eri, ustiga kundosh oganda tushinib etasiz. Ana oshanda Hayot gozal, deb chapak chalib otirishiningizni koraman. Mani imonim Komil, Agar ayol oz erini sevsa, ustiga boshqa hotin olganda olgandan yomon boladi. Man sevgini share qilish mumkinligiga aqlim etmaydi. Etmasin ham.
YoshAvlod
10-21-2004, 07:10 AM
Asalningham ozi shirin
Asalningham ozi shirin
....deymizku,lekin hamma vaqt ham bunga amal qilavermaimiz..
Mubina
11-03-2004, 10:51 PM
Asalningham ozi shirin
lek ko'pi-ko'p,
yomon oqibatlarga olib kelishi mumkin.
take care ppl,
Mubin
Mr.tabib
11-04-2004, 03:32 AM
undefinedsalom hammaga
bu masalanı tibbiy cihatinı ham mulohaza qilsak degandim
hammaga OMADLAR
Mubina
11-04-2004, 04:50 AM
maybe you will start,
it's ur specialty, if u are 'tabib' or ain't u?
wassalama,
Mubin
Mr.tabib
11-05-2004, 02:45 AM
Slm
ı must study this topic to write good idea.maybe later?
with my bishes
Mr.tabib
11-08-2004, 05:03 AM
[QUOTE=Mubina]maybe you will start,
it's ur specialty, if u are 'tabib' or ain't u?
salom
mening ojiz fikrimcha polygami avantaj va dezavatjlari bor.
bir otanining 1,2 yoki 3 ayoli bolsa bularning chevara yaki evarlari orasida marriege bo'lsa, genetik kasalliklarning yuzaga chikish foizi ko'payishi mumkun.
avantajı.insonlar yoshligidan boshlab ko'pchilikni ichida yashaganligi uchun psihalogik kasalliklardan uzokrok bo'ladi deb o'yleman.bu maning fikrim
ammo lekin bu yerda juda yahshi montkli fikirlar bor ekan
hammaga OMADLAR
Ne hira sebe Aziz erkaklarimiz mush! Tovba qildim digin yahshisi! Bervotgan sovolini qara tayor turlarin divosanmi!
...Tovba qildim ..dedim.Va yana bitta gap diman,qulog`izga(bor bo`lsa agar):Sizga Bas kemiman,chunki,ahmoq bilan gap talashganni ozi ahmoq!
Royal
11-08-2004, 07:13 PM
Kunlardan bir kun turmush ortog`ingiz,sizga kutilmagan savol bilan murojaat qildi:......(ismingiz) ,...bir savol bersam javob beroliysanmi??,-tabiyki,siz jilmayib ,savolga savol bilan javob berasiz.:) -A, qanaqa??
umr yoldoshingiz bir oz mulohazaga borib ,deydi:
-Agar men yana bir marta oylansam......rozi bolarmiding???
Ushbu savolga javobni us