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Focus
10-26-2004, 06:09 AM
Klas, Ruslan na svobode. Vot mujik dayet, ustoyal protiv samogo Sherhana , nu i on maugli.
according to current news he is in the states.
Desperado
10-26-2004, 06:14 AM
Klas, Ruslan na svobode. Vot mujik dayet, protiv Sherhana ustoyal, nu i on maugli.
according to current new he is in the states.
:)
nice chap,
used to be around here,
and still around.
]I[ A JL JL O D
10-26-2004, 06:25 AM
Haha, hezalak ahiri qutilibtida a ??? Qaerda ekan hozir, Kaliforniyada shakilli a ? Etgancha Kaliforniyada pediklar to'ylari ruhsat berilganmi yoki yo'qmi ?
Это того, который композитор?
За что его сажали, и что за Шерхан?
Administrator
10-26-2004, 06:45 AM
net eto ne kopozitor Ruslan Sharipov a molodoy jurnalist gomoseksualist kto napisal protiv rejima karimova i vse znayut chto proizoshlo dalee..
что то я первый раз про него слышу...а где он написал, в какой газете или журнале?
elDoraDo
10-26-2004, 07:33 AM
zdes
pokopaysya v archive - mojet cho nit' naydesh
tam je mojesh nayti linki na ego sayti... tochnee ex-site... na vaydli oni vse esho sushestvuyut
ganjubas
10-26-2004, 05:53 PM
I can see a nick RuslanSharipov online. If it is Ruslan Sharipov then I have some suggestions. I understand that sometimes people do not want to express their feelings and bad experience. But, if you could briefly write what happened to you, it would be very informative and first hand info about what is going on behind the bars.
But, I visitet Human Rights Watch website, and Ruslan's picture is still there and they demand his freedom. This info maybe just another "utka". If so, then the author is from known services.
PainKiller
10-26-2004, 07:25 PM
Koroche gonyali ego po polnoy. Dlya menya eto ne udevitel'no :?
RuslanSharipov
10-26-2004, 07:41 PM
http://www.elorien.com/pages/music/song_of_bright_torches/song_of_bright_torches_192.html
www.elorien.com
RS
PainKiller
10-26-2004, 08:01 PM
http://www.elorien.com/pages/music/song_of_bright_torches/song_of_bright_torches_192.html
www.elorien.com (http://www.elorien.com/)
RSTi ne obijaysya, no hren' kakuyu-to ti nam podkinul. Chto za linki gde tebya voshvalyayut kak Hrista Spasitelya?
Day fakti, a ne marazmaticheskie sayti. Ey bogu u menya chut' rvota ne nachalas'.
Chuvak, chto ti hochesh skazat' etimi linkami? Chto on Mamma Mia?:rolleyes:
Webbie
10-26-2004, 08:03 PM
http://www.elorien.com/pages/music/song_of_bright_torches/song_of_bright_torches_192.html
www.elorien.com
RS
Ruslan Shariov, u're welcomed in this forum :D
Administrator
10-26-2004, 11:53 PM
Ruslan Shariov, u're welcomed in this forum :D
it is not real ruslan sharipov
Ti ne obijaysya, no hren' kakuyu-to ti nam podkinul. Chto za linki gde tebya voshvalyayut kak Hrista Spasitelya?
Day fakti, a ne marazmaticheskie sayti. Ey bogu u menya chut' rvota ne nachalas'.
Chuvak, chto ti hochesh skazat' etimi linkami? Chto on Mamma Mia?:rolleyes:
да это точно, линки бредовые....самое интересное что по ним я так и понял кто он этот Руслан Шарипов и за что его сажали :?
Administrator
10-27-2004, 02:51 AM
да это точно, линки бредовые....самое интересное что по ним я так и понял кто он этот Руслан Шарипов и за что его сажали :?
vo narod chto svami ?
o google zabili chtoli ?
vot vam linki :
http://www.google.com.tr/search?hl=tr&q=ruslan+sharipov&btnG=Ara&meta=
Hamid
10-27-2004, 05:18 AM
that is what i cam eacross wondering around in bbc website
http://www.bbc.co.uk/uzbek/news/story/2004/10/041025_ruslan_sharipov.shtml
Hey there Administrator,
I am real Ruslan Sharipov :), of course if you meant a singer i am not him, my e-mail is ruslansharipov_hrsu@yahoo.com which i always had so please do not make such statements :cool:
RS
I don't you like.. dude. Why won't you find yourself another place to hang out? Serously, do you even know you are gay?? OMG, that sound so gay.. :lol:
I am real Ruslan Sharipov :), RS
how can you proove that?
PainKiller
10-27-2004, 12:58 PM
да это точно, линки бредовые....самое интересное что по ним я так и понял кто он этот Руслан Шарипов и за что его сажали :?Po tomu linku chto on dal, ya ponyala chto on Gomik, bol'she nichego. Muzon hrenoviy (Rusya, smeni ego na hip-hop ili rock, man) esli hochesh' uznat' o chuvake bol'she, idi v google, i day search. Tam naydesh' info o nyom. Mozhesh zaglyanut' v Human rights Home page, i prochest' pis'mo kotoroye oni posilali Karimovu.
Ya protiv Gayov nichego ne imeyu, No Rusya, U tebya etot Homepage(????) otstoyniy...ziro rispekt
shady_lady
10-27-2004, 01:45 PM
xm polniy bred :shock:
ya ni x.. ne ponyala
linki ujassss
i voobshe che on tut reshil sebe toj idolov nayti
nedojdeshsa:x
pust' tebya vosxvolyaut te
xm a my tut ludi razumnie:twisted:
Uzbekistan2010
10-27-2004, 02:02 PM
Sharipov said that he has never hidden his sexual orientation.
source:
http://www.hrw.org/press/2003/05/uzbek052903.htm
is he GAY?
illusion
10-27-2004, 02:02 PM
Ne dumayu chto eto Ruslan Sharipov, why would he post this crapy homepage??
As far as i know, he is one of the leaders of gay & lesbian movement in Uzbekistan (not sure about lesbian, would be cool though :D )...
Dude, u better start reading UN Convention against torture and other cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment than posting this kind of weird stuff...
Hope it will help u, ato posle etogo sita chto to mne ne po sebye stalo. Ya vot siju i dumayu mojet eto mol nachalo, nice animations, pictures and stuff, jdu minutu-dve-tri-.....oyyyy mama rodnaya, nu pryamo stolko poleznogo, lol i even had a chance to see some deer in the woods, soooo exciting! upala :D
Parti
PainKiller
10-27-2004, 02:07 PM
Sharipov said that he has never hidden his sexual orientation.
source:
http://www.hrw.org/press/2003/05/uzbek052903.htm
is he GAY?Nu Gey on, Gey.
No posadili ego ne izza etogo. Miliciye po hren gey ti ne gey. Gonyali ego za to chto stuchal mezhdunarodnim organizaciyam o nashey strane. loool
:lol:
ganjubas
10-27-2004, 02:18 PM
Sorry for offtop, but why girls are using so much curse? Is it considered to be cool nowadays? I don't think it is cool. It shows their education (parents/school), or lack of it.
RS was imprisoned, of course, not for being a gay(which is not proven), but for his articles. But, if he really did what he was accused of having done, than he deserves much worse than what he experienced.
RS, you said you have seen prisoners. So, we are waiting stories about political and religious prisoners. Thank you
PainKiller
10-27-2004, 02:20 PM
Sorry for offtop, but why girls are using so much curse? Is it considered to be cool nowadays? I don't think it is cool. It shows their education (parents/school), or lack of it.
RS was imprisoned, of course, not for being a gay(which is not proven), but for his articles. But, if he really did what he was accused of having done, than he deserves much worse than what he experienced.
RS, you said you have seen prisoners. So, we are waiting stories about political and religious prisoners. Thank youDo u really believe it is the same person? Hell no:)
ganjubas
10-27-2004, 02:37 PM
Do u really believe it is the same person? Hell no:)He was a frequent visitor of this site when you used to dress on your "atlas kuylak", dance national dances and walk speaking and loughing loudly and waking lazy Andijan up during the warm mornings of spring, on your way to school. You were a polite girl with a nice smile, and you never swore ;) I'm sure it is him.
RuslanSharipov
10-27-2004, 02:56 PM
A stone is heavy, and the sand weighty; but a fool's wrath is heavier than them both.
Martingale
10-27-2004, 02:59 PM
Hi all,
I study at the University of Georgia and when I first came here I was shocked when I saw the article in International Students Life Office with the following heading: "Ruslan Sharipov was jailed for homosexualism". It said that he attended the University of Georgia for one year and when he got back he was put into jail by Uzbek government because of his human right activities. And it also said that these charges against him were wrong and gave some interview with his friends, who know him while he studied at UGA. The article also says that he was one of the leaders in international community of the University of Georgia.
Now, Mr. Ruslan Sharipov, if you are really him, I would like to know if all these charges against you were true, sorry for my words but are you really homosexualist? Or this was the only thing they could charge you in order to stop your activity? Thank you.
who da fk you think you are??? Go to hell, ******.
PainKiller
10-27-2004, 03:08 PM
He was a frequent visitor of this site when you used to dress on your "atlas kuylak", dance national dances and walk speaking and loughing loudly and waking lazy Andijan up during the warm mornings of spring, on your way to school. You were a polite girl with a nice smile, and you never swore ;) I'm sure it is him.Ganjubas, get laid. :cool:
Martingale
10-27-2004, 03:36 PM
Yes she is,
I can give her email to you. lapoole@UGA.EDU.
Damn. Truly speaking I am totally disappointed man. When I made here cultural presentation some americozes asked me about you and I said them you were put into jail because of your some articles against human rights abusements. Now I see how wrong I was.
PainKiller
10-27-2004, 03:45 PM
Yes she is,
I can give her email to you. lapoole@UGA.EDU.
Damn. Truly speaking I am totally disappointed man. When I made here cultural presentation some americozes asked me about you and I said them you were put into jail because of your some articles against human rights abusements. Now I see how wrong I was.Well, I think U should be more dissapointed in our system, man. Which puts people into jail for articles. His orientation is his business. As long as both sides agree, sex is their business. This is my theory. He did not force anybody to share his experience and desires. He said the truth, and was put into jail for that. This is what really matters for me. Do u really believe that his orientation was the main reason? Hell no. My neighbor-G. is a homosexual. There are a lot of people whom our society labeled "abnormal". why r all these people not in Jail, but Ruslan was? The main reason was his Activities, and articles.
Uzbekistan2010
10-27-2004, 03:46 PM
I just can't understand why people care about my sexual orientation and if it makes you matters i can tell you that i am bisexual but the verdict had a different accusation as you may know and it was just fabricated to throm in jail, it doesn't matter for me if somebody doesn't beleive in it.
hi there Ruslan sharipov. how did u become like bisexual? why are u bisexual???? it is really bad habit. I hate it. by the way, whats ur religion?
quroni karimda yazilgan bunday odamlar duzahiy deb...
sorry..:(
Uzbekistan2010
10-27-2004, 04:01 PM
Why those who claim to be religious, want to know the details? It is so rediculous, man. If u really do not like him, leave him alone. Do not ask this sort of personal questions. The words I quoted, are the most stupid I've ever heard...Damned. Why r u homosexual mush....:rolleyes:
u are absolutely right!!!
Martingale
10-27-2004, 04:19 PM
Well, I think U should be more dissapointed in our system, man. Which puts people into jail for articles. His orientation is his business. As long as both sides agree, sex is their business. This is my theory. He did not force anybody to share his experience and desires. He said the truth, and was put into jail for that. This is what really matters for me. Do u really believe that his orientation was the main reason? Hell no. My neighbor-G. is a homosexual. There are a lot of people whom our society labeled "abnormal". why r all these people not in Jail, but Ruslan was? The main reason was his Activities, and articles.
Yes I see where you are coming from. This idea is more popular in west. Even they discuss it in presidential debates whether the same sex marriage should be legalized or not. Of course I don't blame him and, because that was his choice. But I think even if your activity is only to help the society, you should consider if you match the requirements of that society. Even if Ruslan tries to make a change in the life of our people, I am not sure that people would value his efforts. Maybe in the West he could reach his goal. But any way, Our Values will not let such things to happen. And that's very important.
Thank you.
Uzbekistan2010
10-27-2004, 04:43 PM
My fother and mother are muslims however myslef i don't believe in defenite religion....
RS
it is ur choice that u belive or not in defenite religion. but i m not sure that i m also muslim as well. cuz of i drink vodka sometimes, eat porks and do something like prohobited in islam religion. but it is not robbery, besaqolbozlik, (hudo asrasin) and etc.
Bisexuality, homosexuality are all defined as a mental disorder, it ain't no individual preferences.
I gotta a question to you Ruslan, bastard. Why in the world did you take those kids to your friend's house??? To have sex with them? Why could not you report them to police? or whatever necessary authorities who could actually deal with them, instead you took them to your friend's house?? What kind of fkin common sense is that?? What's the goddamn ideology behind that?? Clear this fact up, and I might change this bitter attitude of mine towards you, as to an individual.
Uzbekistan2010
10-27-2004, 05:20 PM
Do u divide sins into more and less? U say u eat pork and drink vodka, so why do u accuse him with his preferences?
dostim, inkognito. Jazoni bandasi emas, Allohning uzi bersin
Uzbekistan2010
10-27-2004, 05:34 PM
Do u divide sins into more and less? U say u eat pork and drink vodka, so why do u accuse him with his preferences?
birodar. i know that these actions like eating pork or drinking vodka are sins. i m not dividing sins. but it must be little bit limited. hamma narsa meyorida bolgan yaxshi. meyoridan ortiqchasi bu ortiqcha.
Dilba yoru dast bakor. Kongling Allohda, qoilng mehhatda bolsin
i didnt accuse him with his preferences. I just wanted to add some words. As he also doesnt belive in relgion.
furik
10-27-2004, 06:06 PM
Whether someone is gay, or not, is ultimately his own business (or his own a$$ to be more precise lol, forgive my dirty joke, couldn't help myself). Being gay is still illegal in Uzbekistan, which is another funny joke, but no one was prosecuted so far, besides Ruslan. In his case his sexuality was a lame excuse, SNB could've found another one, if he was straight. What bothered our government was not who he was screwing, but what he was writing. [Ruslan will be remembered as someone who sacrificed his ass for the freedom of Uzbekistan, literally]
IMHO, and I read Ruslan’s articles, most of them were low quality articles, at the level of gossip with occasional nark tendencies. I still remember laughing when I was reading one of his articles. What I call "mors crimes" :lol:. If I remember it well, apparently, somewhere around Amir Temur metro station, there was mors vending machine. U remember yellow round ones, "bochki", manually operated? Well, basically he caught owner adding dirty water to the mors, and wrote a "report" exposing him. LOL, that's got to be the funniest piece of material (or someone would say piece of sh&t) written by human rights advocates in Uzbeksitan ever. Most probably the most pathetic one too. It is a basic human right to have access to a high quality mors in Uzbekistan!!! Evil government of Uzbekistan tries to limit access to the mors!!! I just hope he did not mail the letter to the U.N. general and to Amnesty International, I am afraid they would not appreciate the humor.
Another one, a complain about his digital camera being taken from him by some bouncer when he was taking picture of Salim or somebody. Access to digital cameras for everyone in Uzbekistan? :lol:.
In any other country, shall we say country with normal government, Ruslan's articles would be ridiculed at most. But we have retarded government... Instead of ignoring him, they start persecuting him. From low quality human rights journalist, Ruslan was made to Pulitzer worth writer, a national hero, by the West. Someone must have overlooked his "mors crimes" article...Ruslan is a hero produced by the actions of our government. Ridiculous governments produce appropriate heroes.
Mors anyone? :proost:
Ruslan,
The verdict was that you intended or did rape those boys. In any case, I am aware of the fact that you never did essentially criticize Karimov and his regime. Or did you? If you did, would mind helping me find those articles online?! Other than that, you did not answer my question, bastard. Did you or did you not took those boys to your friend's apartment/house? If you did, why did you do so? Who were those boys? This is a chance for you to clear your name in front of your country mates. Why won’t you use it? Instead, you prefer to share your abnormal art and all that meaningless bull shit?
illusion
10-27-2004, 06:44 PM
Well, basically he caught owner adding dirty water to the mors, and wrote a "report" exposing him. LOL, that's got to be the funniest piece of material (or someone would say piece of sh&t) written by human rights advocates in Uzbeksitan ever. Most probably the most pathetic one too.
OH MY GOODNESS!!!! R u serious?? I didn't know that....I thought it's all about him being in charge of Gay Movement in Uzb...(by the way i've read it somewhere...)
Interesno odnako, lol this is definitely very pathetic!
Concerning me visiting this forum,is being Uzbek young person as well as you who loves Uzbekistan and wants to get back to homecountry when the regime of tyran Islam Karimov is over. Good Luck!
I bet my checking account that this statement will turn out to be an absolute lie. I hope we will get back to this once the so-called "the regime of tyran" is over.
ganjubas
10-27-2004, 07:02 PM
Well, "mors" article I read too. It was really funny one, and I thought someone pretended to be RS and was joking, or another SNB "online operation". And, there were couple of more funny ones, which if it was RS, exposed his "professionality". Most of his articles were addressed to president and his cabinet, and begging them something. And, I remember couple of articles about two gays who had been cought, and police were asking bribes from them, otherwise they would inform their parents of their orientation.
It is really stupid how a man can become a hero after he is put in jail by some stupid regimes. It shows how intolerant our government is that it can not tolerate even such amateur right defenders.
International awards are given to those who are put in jails too, regardless their contribution to freedom of speech. One guy from Tajikistan got an award, and I read his articles. They were no better than those of RS. It shows how in the west they like to speculate and PR their awards.
P.S. Inkognito, thanks for your advice. Tonight I really want to sleep, so tomorrow I promise to go and get laid. The funny part is that someone who most probably has never had it, is advising you to do it. :lol:
where did u get info from? I mean where did u find out that he tried to malest those boys? I have read all articles about him, and the only thing I remembered was that police wanted to rape him with a BOTTLE(aa?:rolleyes: )
Ruslan, show us some of those articles u wrote and became the reason of prosecution?
We're talking about the verdict, as to why was he thrown into jail in the first place? Do you know the exact verdict? He was prosecuted, b/c he tried to rape some young kids off the street that he took to his friend's apartment for unknown reason. I have to acknowledge [disclaimer], this is not a solid fact. However, he refuses to provide us his own perspective. In that case, I have to go on with what I got now. That is: He raped some boys, and therefore was prosecuted.
WASP,
if you go and find verdict you won'tfind in it that tried or raped these boys. What surprise me is that not knowing verdict you continue to tell me about the verdict i know better than everybody! Don't you think so? Excatly because of this reason i don't see the point of argueing with you or answeering wrong questions. Again there isno place in the verdict that i tried or raped boyz. So please think before you write or write with fact to keep your credibility! Concerning my critising Karimov's regime: Do you think respected internationalorganizations would continue defend my right or state that i was critisizing governement, police corruption and regime itself with no reason, or you think international organizations are lieing to all the world?
You are an adult person and can make internet research and see those articles yourself. I am not obliged to do it for you as well i told you before i don't care what people you about me. I am what i am and i wanna stay the way i am.
And some topics for your research on internet you may search how i "podal v sud na Presidenta Karimova" eshe buduchi v Uzbekistane, or you can search the case of Rustam Erkabaev who used to work as the chair of department to fight corruption on highest level in Ministry of Internal Affairs of Uzbekistan. When he got big cases investigated he got kicked from MVD by Zokir Almatov and than he went to court against President. Nobody wanted to make his public i did. Moreover i invited English channel and we made a film about him being against Uzbek President and corruption in Uzbek governement and it was years ago man! Or look about Karimov's referendum which i was critisizing and than after three attacks i ended up in hospital with serious injuries. I may continue for a long time but hope you may do it yourself!
Good Luck!
Ruslan,
You see, when you hear the facts first-hand it is a lot more interesting than doing other-than-school unnecessary researches, which are, as you should know as a journalist, very much time consuming. Well, I like the way you started and things you said in the above post do make much sense, to be honest. If the "boys case" is a false fact, under what circumstances did they emerge and why? I am sure I am not the first one to ask this question about the boys. That being said, it’s apparent that the explicit prosecution that was held against you wasn't about your opposition, but your sexuality. So, what was the verdict? You mind sharing it with us?
Off-topic. So you like Enrique kind of guys? :D
furik
10-27-2004, 07:43 PM
Hey buddies, can U provide me with a Link to his Mors article =))
thanks in advance...
Honey, I could not find his creations. He used to publish his articles at the web site named Prima news. No, no, don't laugh, Prima news eto vam ne Belomor Kanal! :lol:. But they don't have an archive, so alas, na mors story for you. You can try to talk to Ruslan, but your girly charms most probably will be useless there.
Ganjubas, my friend I like you. I have no idea who are you, I've never met you, but seems that we enjoy same things, and if you were brunet, between 5.3-5.7, with at least college degree, not overweight, and a girl, I'd marry you (too bad I am not into guys :lol:). Where are you located anyways?
R.Azimov
10-27-2004, 08:09 PM
Mister Ruslan Sharipov.
Personally it is not interesting and I do not actually care what you've done in past. Additionally, I do not also care about your attitude, your belief, your future intentions, character, personality, and I am not against you.(believe me)
Do you mind if I ask couple of questions:
1). What did you do for Uzbekistan? (if nothing, why do you think that we need to discuss about you in each section of the forum)
2). Why did the Uzbek Government jail you? ( also not interesting, just curious)
3). Is that true? he tried to rape some young kids off the street that he took to his friend's apartment for unknown reasonIf you did not try to rape them, why did you bring them to your friends apartment?
4). I did not even know you as a "journalist" until hearing your voice from a prison. And I do not think that you are journalist. Could you please tell me, did you solve any problem by using your profession?
5). Can you prove us that you are a journalist?
Thank you in advance.
R.Azimov.
]I[ A JL JL O D
10-28-2004, 12:46 AM
Qisqasi, Ruslan, sani chet elda "Inson huquqlari himoyachisi", "Begunoh jurnalist", "So'z erkinligi himoyachisi" deyishar ekan, bilmadim, bo'sa bordur, lekin qanaqa katta unvonlar olmagin baribir O'zbekistonda sani K*T deb atashadi : evil: :)
Seni ozodlikka chiqarib yuborishgani juda achinarli hol, o'sha qamoqda chirishing kerak edi o'zi. Afsus, bahting bor ekan
Focus
10-28-2004, 06:03 AM
I am answering your post Laziz as it's based quite polite. I just can't understand why people care about my sexual orientation and if it makes you matters i can tell you that i am bisexual but the verdict had a different accusation as you may know and it was just fabricated to throm in jail, it doesn't matter for me if somebody doesn't beleive in it.
Also i had one question to you Laziz if you are really studying now in University of Georgia wherei was studying as well, do you know who is the head of Inetrnational Student Life Office now, if it is still Legh Pool maybe you could give her my e-mail saying that i am free ruslansharipov_hrsu@yahoo.com and that i need to talk to her about one thing, or find for me her e-mail if it is not difficult for you man.
Thanks,
RS
Ruslan, ne obijaysya. Lichno ya tebya oskorblyat ne imel vidu. Prosto, interesno bi'lo uznat' lichno ot-tebya o etih spletnyah. Dlay menya eto lichno bil shock. Prosto unas v Uzbekistane mogut posodit tebya, i pridumat prichinu dlay etogo. Ya sli'shal raznie prichini: vor, protiv gosudarstva/naroda, itd. no "besoqolbozlik" eshe nebi'lo do tebya.
Ok here's an argument: If he was actually locked up for opposing the current regime, why did Karimov let him go? It's obvious that he would continue writing and even expose facts about the "the real prison" in Uzbekistan after he was freed, which he did. Why wasn't it easier for them to kill him? Make it look, as if it was an accident -- it happens everyday in our prisons. Besides, he won't share the verdict with us, b/c there must be something he does not want us to know. Or, do you think our government compromised, "you do this I do that", with 'west'?
PainKiller
10-28-2004, 06:48 AM
Ok here's an argument: If he was actually locked up for opposing the current regime, why did Karimov let him go? It's obvious that he would continue writing and even expose facts about the "the real prison" in Uzbekistan after he was freed, which he did. Why wasn't it easier for them to kill him? Make it look, as if it was an accident -- it happens everyday in our prisons. Besides, he won't share the verdict with us, b/c there must be something he does not want us to know. Or, do you think our government compromised, "you do this I do that", with 'west'?His ass has being watched by too many international organization. He will be killed, u'll see. But not right now. It will take couple years before this case will be forgotten, and the dude be found dead somewhere on the street.
Uzbekistan2010
10-28-2004, 08:28 AM
I[ A JL JL O D']Qisqasi, Ruslan, sani chet elda "Inson huquqlari himoyachisi", "Begunoh jurnalist", "So'z erkinligi himoyachisi" deyishar ekan, bilmadim, bo'sa bordur, lekin qanaqa katta unvonlar olmagin baribir O'zbekistonda sani K*T deb atashadi : evil: :)
woahahahaa k*t. Qamoqda ham balkim planni bajargandur usha jurnalist. woahahahaha
Webbie
10-30-2004, 05:30 PM
it is not real ruslan sharipov
oh really? i thought it was, thanx for clarifying... :? mdaaaaa
Martingale
10-30-2004, 05:36 PM
oh really? i thought it was, thanx for clarifying... :? mdaaaaa
No He is real one,
maybe unfortunately
Focus
11-02-2004, 09:06 AM
Jailed Uzbek journalist gets asylum in U.S.
by Ben Townley
Gay.com U.K. (http://uk.gay.com/)
Ruslan Sharipov, the journalist imprisoned in Uzbekistan for homosexuality to the anger of human rights workers worldwide, has been granted asylum in the United States.
According to a press release from the World Association of Newspapers (WAN), Sharipov was released last week after the United States agreed to offer him sanctuary.
Sharipov's case has received international media attention, with civil and human rights organizations as well as international lesbian and gay groups calling for his release.
He was originally arrested under sodomy laws that dated back to the country's Soviet rule, but was also quickly charged with having sex with minors.
Human rights groups at the time claimed that this charge was fabricated in a bid to discourage international press interest in the story. They claimed the allegations were politically motivated, since Sharipov had criticized the Uzbek government in the past.
Despite continually denying the charges, Sharipov dismissed his lawyer and "admitted" his guilt (http://www.gay.com/news/article.html?2003/08/12/1) last year. He later said he was forced to sign the confession as a result of ongoing torture and abuse.
Speaking in a statement Wednesday afternoon, WAN's director of press freedom programs, Kajsa Tornroth, said the group was relieved at the asylum offer.
"We are relieved that Mr. Sharipov is beyond the reach of the Uzbek authorities, and we hope that he can one day return to a free and democratic Uzbekistan," Tornroth said.
SmIlIk
11-03-2004, 03:08 PM
I liked this one :) You go Sharipov :)
http://www.rsf.org/article.php3?id_article=11739
Damn, did they really torture you that bad ? :(
Maroon
11-03-2004, 03:24 PM
MDA!I ESHO RAZ MDA!
:rolleyes:
D.
Faqir_fuqaro
11-03-2004, 03:29 PM
I liked this one :) You go Sharipov :)
http://www.rsf.org/article.php3?id_article=11739
Damn, did they really torture you that bad ? :(
http://www.rsf.org/article.php3?id_article=11739
Journalist and human rights activist Ruslan Sharipov has obtained political asylum in the United States after fleeing Uzbekistan, where he had been serving a prison sentence for homosexuality, Reporters Without Borders said today.
Sharipov, 26, who has explained his reasons for leaving Uzbekistan in an interview for Reporters Without Borders, was originally given a four-year prison sentence on appeal on 25 September 2003 for homosexuality and having sexual relations with a minor.
Sharipov has never denied his bisexuality
I was injected with unidentified substances and I was told that I was being infected with the HIV virus. They put bags and a gas mask over my head and made me write a suicide note. Unidentified substances were sprayed into my throat, making me feel I was suffocating, while they continued to torture me with electric shock to the ears and other parts of the body. It was mostly the interior ministry's anti-terrorism department that did the torturing.
7. Can you explain to us how you managed to escape ?
The people who asked me to leave have a great deal of power and I think this was the reason I was able to cross the Uzbek border into Kazakhstan, from where I took train to Moscow.
12. What are your plans in the United States ?
Unfortunately I still don't know what I will be doing in the United States.
Do not worry bastard, you can find your GAY friends here easily. And your life will continue again like "Xamirdan qil sug'urgandek"
HIV virus.. :) :) :)
SmIlIk
11-03-2004, 06:19 PM
http://www.rsf.org/article.php3?id_article=11739
Journalist and human rights activist Ruslan Sharipov has obtained political asylum in the United States after fleeing Uzbekistan, where he had been serving a prison sentence for homosexuality, Reporters Without Borders said today.
Sharipov, 26, who has explained his reasons for leaving Uzbekistan in an interview for Reporters Without Borders, was originally given a four-year prison sentence on appeal on 25 September 2003 for homosexuality and having sexual relations with a minor.
Sharipov has never denied his bisexuality
I was injected with unidentified substances and I was told that I was being infected with the HIV virus. They put bags and a gas mask over my head and made me write a suicide note. Unidentified substances were sprayed into my throat, making me feel I was suffocating, while they continued to torture me with electric shock to the ears and other parts of the body. It was mostly the interior ministry's anti-terrorism department that did the torturing.
7. Can you explain to us how you managed to escape ?
The people who asked me to leave have a great deal of power and I think this was the reason I was able to cross the Uzbek border into Kazakhstan, from where I took train to Moscow.
12. What are your plans in the United States ?
Unfortunately I still don't know what I will be doing in the United States.
Do not worry bastard, you can find your GAY friends here easily. And your life will continue again like "Xamirdan qil sug'urgandek"
HIV virus.. :) :) :)
I am giving you first warning for insulting forum user. If you do not have anything to share about the topic please do not post.
SMLK
Administrator
11-04-2004, 02:04 AM
I am giving you first warning for insulting forum user. If you do not have anything to share about the topic please do not post.
SMLK
he was not infected with hiv virus they just told hin next time they will inject hiv virus to him
in russia they didnt find hiv virus from his blood and he is waiting for results in usa ..
where do i know this from?
Ruslan, himself told me so ;)
RuslanSharipov
11-04-2004, 03:20 AM
he was not infected with hiv virus they just told hin next time they will inject hiv virus to him
in russia they didnt find hiv virus from his blood and he is waiting for results in usa ..
where do i know this from?
Ruslan, himself told me so ;) Ditto! Gotta have them tomorrow actually...
Samarqand
11-04-2004, 03:30 AM
nechevo geyu delat v uzb.
malchik ti mojet bit i umniy i boreshsya za chto to no ti GEY, GOLUBOY
talih kak ti ne nado uzb i zasun svoyo ponimaniye of free world up yr a.........
thanx
Administrator
11-04-2004, 03:32 AM
Ditto! Gotta have them tomorrow actually...
i hope results will be okey ...
Administrator
11-04-2004, 03:33 AM
nechevo geyu delat v uzb.
malchik ti mojet bit i umniy i boreshsya za chto to no ti GEY, GOLUBOY
talih kak ti ne nado uzb i zasun svoyo ponimaniye of free world up yr a.........
thanx
zachem je tak?
nu chelovek mejet sogreshit a potom ispravitsa ...
vse tak on imel smelost brosat vizov k IAK'u da i perejil strashnuyu inkvizitsiyu tolka bog sam znayet chto snim tvorili v turyage
Samarqand
11-04-2004, 04:00 AM
QUOTE
Administrator zachem je tak?
nu chelovek mejet sogreshit a potom ispravitsa ...
vse tak on imel smelost brosat vizov k IAK'u da i perejil strashnuyu inkvizitsiyu tolka bog sam znayet chto snim tvorili v turyage.
Administrator pojalusta ne zastupaysya za geya.
to chto on projil i viterpel, eto tolko on sam znayet ne nam s toboy sudit.
u menya toje est serdse i chuvstva, ponimayu.
no fact to chto on GEY< GOLUBOY i on etovo ne skrivayet i schitayet chto eto pravilno. tak chto plz ne nado evo zachishat.
Administrator
11-04-2004, 04:31 AM
QUOTE
Administrator zachem je tak?
nu chelovek mejet sogreshit a potom ispravitsa ...
vse tak on imel smelost brosat vizov k IAK'u da i perejil strashnuyu inkvizitsiyu tolka bog sam znayet chto snim tvorili v turyage.
Administrator pojalusta ne zastupaysya za geya.
to chto on projil i viterpel, eto tolko on sam znayet ne nam s toboy sudit.
u menya toje est serdse i chuvstva, ponimayu.
no fact to chto on GEY< GOLUBOY i on etovo ne skrivayet i schitayet chto eto pravilno. tak chto plz ne nado evo zachishat.
a tebya hvatil bi smelost chtobi delat to chto sdelal on?
Samarqand
11-04-2004, 05:05 AM
Administrator
u kajdovo cheloveka est ultimate dream, mission, destination... u kajdovo.
ya ne budu borotsya NIKOGDA za to chto on boretsya (as i understand to bring values of the advanced US and so called FREE world into our place).
ne nado menyat odno plohoye yeshyo hudshim.
so that is not my purpose.
Focus
11-04-2004, 06:45 AM
he was not infected with hiv virus they just told hin next time they will inject hiv virus to him
in russia they didnt find hiv virus from his blood and he is waiting for results in usa ..
where do i know this from?
Ruslan, himself told me so ;)
Why in Russia? What happened to Uzbekistan?
SmIlIk
11-04-2004, 06:52 AM
Samarkand, horosh napadat'. Kak ya ponela on mozhet i gay no sdelal mnogo chego chto ne smogli drugie zhurnalisti. Sam tot fakt chto on vzyalsya za eto delo, vdohnovenie dlya zhurnalistov i daet znat' chto mozhno borotsya s takimi sistemami kak v uzbekistane.
Na samom dele, menya ochen' sil'no razdrazhadet kogda mi vse sidim u komputera i prosto pitaemsya osuzhdat' teh kto delaet chto poleznoe buduchi v uzbekistane. A u samih ved' kishka tonka. Azh za million km ubezhali ottuda...
I doubt that his ultimate dream was to bring Americans over to Uzbekistan. Even if you dreams and your wishes are not the same it doesn't mean that he is wrong.
Let Allah decide for him, not us.
Samarqand
11-04-2004, 06:59 AM
Hilola.
i told u about my point on this issue. (kishka tonka itp ne nado plz)
u talking about Allah and His judgement.
but plz think about it, u know the scripture u know this is wrong and u still trying to tell me he did smth good for us. no he didn't.
so my sister peace
Samarqand
11-04-2004, 07:01 AM
and my sister i said American values and the values of the free world, not americans.
thanx
SmIlIk
11-04-2004, 07:07 AM
Hilola.
i told u about my point on this issue. (kishka tonka itp ne nado plz)
u talking about Allah and His judgement.
but plz think about it, u know the scripture u know this is wrong and u still trying to tell me he did smth good for us. no he didn't.
so my sister peace
...and I am sure you know more than that, too. Wahshi killed Hamza. He comitted big seen but he came along. Instead of cursing him why don't you pray for him? If you do not find his work as a help to uzbeks, it is solely up to you. Don't get offended for "Kishka Tonka", it was not my intention to laugh at you or others.
I am late to work...Enjoy another nice day of Ramadan. Let Allah forgive us all.
SmIlIk
11-04-2004, 07:09 AM
you mean "Free" world or just free world? My brother, you will have to think about it twice before you say something. If he is Gay I do not think after what he achived people automaticly will become gays. Maybe he was recieving help from them but only to insure his own life. As if we do not know what is going on in our prisons?
Samarqand
11-04-2004, 07:24 AM
my sister.
thanx for reminding me about thinking twice.
i meant Free World and values of the United States of America.
yes we don't know what's going on in our jales, as i said i'm sure he had a hard time their. and i'm against it, but that is aside.
he was a GAY and openly admited it (without any otside intervention).
and he achieved nothing my sis.
ps ya napisal tebe recept mosh kichiri posmotri singlim.
SmIlIk
11-04-2004, 03:08 PM
Samarqand, i am absolutely agree with you, gays make wrong things! I also against them and i think what they do is wrong. I hate them! I was expressing my point on other forum and below are copies of replies. These people are so silly i think while you and me are absolutely right, way to go! Gays aways from Uzbekistan, uraaaaa....
Hate
Why do people hate?
By being able to point at a "bad guy" they can feel they are a good guy themselves. While animals show little or no resentment humans sometimes transform agression into hate. Hate personalities may have their origin in a genetic tendency but in all cases a bad youth accumulated with a bad adult life, lack of good and loving examples make things worse. Furthermore they lack satisfying relationships and probably are neglected or abused as a child. In many cases people that hate are not able to give their life a positive meaning, cannot be creative without being destructive. As a result they try to get their thrills and excitement from negative actions (as insult or crime). In the process they often behave foolish and childish. Some therapists will say their inner child is crying for help.
Religion and religious documents, such as the Bible, have been interpreted and reinterpreted for centuries. Many people take particular passages from religious documents and use them to "prove" just about anything including demand that gays should be killed. Currently, the Bible is used to justify racism, sexism, and homophobia- to name a few.
Homophobia is worse than a disease, it is a plague. It kills and it hurts!
Honey, hate buy itself is a very strong word. Hate will darken your life and kill all positive energy in your body :)
Panique
11-04-2004, 03:30 PM
Smilik- Hilola Assalomalaykum! what a nice saying!!!
Panique
11-04-2004, 03:31 PM
By the way It Is me Aziz:)
Sincerely yours
Aziz(soffist)
Samarqand
11-05-2004, 12:16 PM
posted by Smilik:
Honey, hate buy itself is a very strong word. Hate will darken your life and kill all positive energy in your body :)
i do agree with u my sis.
i understand where u comming from.
but there always buts. one should love for the sake of GOD and one should hate for the sake of GOD. (that is the right way i think, don't u sis?)
Focus
11-05-2004, 12:42 PM
Lekin bir narsani eytib ketish kere. Agar o'sha bola o'zi gay bo'lishni holamasa, lekin u shundoq bo'lib tu'gilgan bo'lsa, nima qilsin bechora!
How you feel if that person is a gay by nature? Shundoq bo'lib tu'gilgan bo'lsa?
Samarqand
11-05-2004, 12:46 PM
Focus respect.
this is a different issue. if that is the case u chose to be a man or woman. (of course being in the religion of GOD). there should be no problemz with this.
Martingale
11-05-2004, 10:15 PM
Lekin bir narsani eytib ketish kere. Agar o'sha bola o'zi gay bo'lishni holamasa, lekin u shundoq bo'lib tu'gilgan bo'lsa, nima qilsin bechora!
How you feel if that person is a gay by nature? Shundoq bo'lib tu'gilgan bo'lsa?
Man bu fikrizga mutlaqo qarshiman Focus. Chunki hech qachon inson gay, lesbian yoki boshqacha bulib tugilmaydi. Avvalombor, har kim uzi yashagan muhitda rivojlanib va shu muhitga moslashadi. Sizga bitta savol, nima uchun musulmonlarda gay yoki lesbian degan tushunchani uzi yuq. Bu narsalarni hammasi West dan kelgan. Qanaqasiga u bolani uzi gay bulishni hohlamasa, shundoq bulib tugilgan bulsachi degan fikrga borish mumkin. Bizga olloh tomonidan berilgan hislatlar(qualities) bor va uzimiz orttiradigan hislatlarimiz(skills) bor, agar hislat deb atash mumkin busa. Man bu gaplarni o'sha bolani misolida gapirmayapman(chunki bunga haqqim ham yuq), umuman inson hech qachon gay, lesbian, bisexual bulib tugilmaydi. Bu narsalarni inson uzi yashagan muhitda orttiradi.
'Please Kill me, i am a ****** Nigger Jew'
what the hell is that?
Joj, this is what one of ******s told before he was killed, funny huh? :)
hmmm, i dont think so:rolleyes:
anyway, just tell me why did u post it here and open a new thread?
Tak vozraduysya je s nami, Joj :evil: in the name of DevilAstafrullo, u said in the name of Devil:rolleyes:?
tovba
Maroon
11-06-2004, 04:54 AM
Diana: You are sick. Get some therapy.
You have no idea of homophobia, do some depth research and find out what it really is. Homophobics are the real gays who just repress their identity.
Samarqand
11-06-2004, 05:32 AM
the topic was Ruslan Sharipov (pozor Buhari) by the way
Maroon
11-06-2004, 05:36 AM
Diana: I can google too.;)
Did you even read what you copy/pasted? :lol:
Sexual minorities mish.:lol:
D.;)
P.S JoJ aha:)
Maroon
11-06-2004, 05:38 AM
Absolyutno soglasna Samarkand, eshe kakoy pozor, goret emu von v tom ognyu kak u menya na kartinke :) :) :)
Da net, ti sama budesh goret v ogne devochka for saying 'in the name of the Devil.'
Maroon
11-06-2004, 05:47 AM
shopgirl, prisoedinitsya ne hochesh', pogorim vmeste, pobeseduem :) :) :)
Allah forbid! Nauchis normalno obshatsya s lyudmi. Vrode uje tebe pochti 20 a vedesh sebya kak malenkaya devochka. Da ne bos' golova u tebya esho rebenka, ne smotrya na vozrast. K sojeleniyu shas takih mnogo.
:rolleyes:
I voobshe ti uje floodish s off-topicami. Davno tebe nado ban postavit.;)
Udachi.
P.S Hopefully the devil inside you will get out pretty soon.;)
lavelaso
11-10-2004, 05:42 PM
Pochemu vi tak ozabochenni gay i lesbian ? Pust jivut oni toje lyudi. Oni rodilis tak oni ne stanovilis takimi. Mne kak to bez raznici kakoi chelovek orientacii on vse ravno ostaetsya chelovekom. Glavnoe dusha a ne fizicheske telo i ego jelaniya.
Peace yall
Samarqand
11-11-2004, 01:49 AM
TO THE LAST ONE.
We r tolleramt as well but we live in the world with limits and rules.
We don't like people who go outside this rules.
(tryed 2 make it as easy as possible)
PainKiller
11-11-2004, 02:07 AM
TO THE LAST ONE.
We r tolleramt as well but we live in the world with limits and rules.
We don't like people who go outside this rules.
(tryed 2 make it as easy as possible)Ok. Nimaga ozilari undan ustun qoyib, Judge qilib, USTIDAN KULASILAR? Nimaga undagi yashhi tomonlari korish qiyin, yomonini korishdan kora?
Shu vaqtgacha bironta isnon, U chindanam davlat tomonidan ezilganini aytgani yoq. Mlin. Tovba qildim. Pochemu v vas stol'ko nenavisti? Nime shunaqa zabitiy, zakompleksovanniysila?:rolleyes:
Samarqand
11-11-2004, 02:34 AM
ИнкоГниТо
Ok. Nimaga ozilari undan ustun qoyib, Judge qilib, USTIDAN KULASILAR? Nimaga undagi yashhi tomonlari korish qiyin, yomonini korishdan kora?
Shu vaqtgacha bironta isnon, U chindanam davlat tomonidan ezilganini aytgani yoq. Mlin. Tovba qildim. Pochemu v vas stol'ko nenavisti? Nime shunaqa zabitiy, zakompleksovanniysila?:rolleyes:
hey singlim sekinrog'.
esli ti ko mne obrashyayeshsya, to ne nado delat obo mne vivodov plz.
hurlanib ezilganini qiynalganlarini bilaman, u'qigan man. (u'zi hammadan yahshi biladi). Yurak degan narsa va u b-n bog'liq tuyg'ular bizada ham bor.
lekin ammo biroq mani tushunchamda Gey bu notu'g'ri. U qilgan ishi Uzb ga borib sakrab keldi (svoboda slova, prava cheloveka itp). Singlim biza u'zimiz bilamiz kim Uzb da halqini u'ylab hukumat b-n kurashvotkanini, bunaqalar bu bolasiz ham bor (bu'gan i bu'ladi). I don't mean IMU. man demoqchi bu'lgan narsam; 1 yil yo 2 yil US yo Europega borib ular qurgan ' FREEDOMni' ku'tarib kelish kerak emas.
I on Gey (or bisexual)
elDoraDo
11-11-2004, 04:31 AM
Ruslan,
You see, when you hear the facts first-hand it is a lot more interesting than doing other-than-school unnecessary researches, which are, as you should know as a journalist, very much time consuming. Well, I like the way you started and things you said in the above post do make much sense, to be honest. If the "boys case" is a false fact, under what circumstances did they emerge and why? I am sure I am not the first one to ask this question about the boys. That being said, it’s apparent that the explicit prosecution that was held against you wasn't about your opposition, but your sexuality. So, what was the verdict? You mind sharing it with us?
Off-topic. So you like Enrique kind of guys? :D
he wrote a pm to you, didn't he? that means that he wanted to pm you and only, which means it was personal. no?
1.
who da fk you think you are??? Go to hell, ******.
you attitude to ppl shows your point of view, which was not that modern (or r they really otstoy ili cho tam bilo antonim of modern). have not you ever been in the opinion of "Who the f r WE to say f off to others?"
2. are you really interested in showing your interest in ruslan sharipov? or it only seems to be so?
sorry for anything personal if there is any
p.s. 3 - it was a good idea to leave this thread at all
he wrote a pm to you, didn't he? that means that he wanted to pm you and only, which means it was personal. no?
1.
you attitude to ppl shows your point of view, which was not that modern (or r they really otstoy ili cho tam bilo antonim of modern). have not you ever been in the opinion of "Who the f r WE to say f off to others?"
2. are you really interested in showing your interest in ruslan sharipov? or it only seems to be so?
sorry for anything personal if there is any
p.s. 3 - it was a good idea to leave this thread at all
I am not sure why you are bringing this up only now... he never PMed me, nor did he answer this question. I do not hold anything against homosexuals, as long as they do not bother me. However, this guy was accused of molesting young kids, specifically boys. (that was my assumption only, however it was confirmed by his own friend on some other thread related to this guy). Well I have to admit that is a very strange way of showing off your homosexuality, which in fact bothers me, a lot! Now. Does that explain my very "un-modern" attitude towards this guy? In any case, I despise these types of sons of bitches.
Here's the quote:
"Sharipov, 26, who has explained his reasons for leaving Uzbekistan in an interview for Reporters Without Borders, was originally given a four-year prison sentence on appeal on 25 September 2003 for homosexuality and having sexual relations with a minor" (RSF.org).
SmIlIk
11-11-2004, 04:29 PM
"Sharipov, 26, who has explained his reasons for leaving Uzbekistan in an interview for Reporters Without Borders, was originally given a four-year prison sentence on appeal on 25 September 2003 for homosexuality and having sexual relations with a minor" (RSF.org).
He was accused but he never admitted that, did he? As if you do not know that our government will do anything to make people like him "escape".
Faqir_fuqaro
11-11-2004, 11:24 PM
A: Are you stupid?
B: NO, worst.
A: ?
B: I am gay (bisexual)
A: Uhhh BASTARD.. :throwup: :throwup: :throwup: :puke:
Alouddin
11-12-2004, 01:27 AM
:lool: :puke:
elDoraDo
11-12-2004, 04:12 AM
... Well I have to admit that is a very strange way of showing off your homosexuality, which in fact bothers me, a lot! ...
you seem to be too young for making analytical conclusions.
whatever, dude, i just wanted to show/ask/say you to be more calm here
who da fk you think you are??? Go to hell, ******. ????
because, as a matter of fact - vypendreshi razdrajayut menya
dumayu tebya toje. kak ty govorish - gay mojet ne trogat tebya - a vypendresh budet - on budet deystvovat na tebe nervy
navernoye poetomu ya bolshe predpochitayu chtob vmesto odnogo vypendryosho i nedoros-shego vyskachka bil spokoyniy chelovek, who even migh be gay/lesbi - about what i don't give a f at all
a voobshe, i support the MSB member who said a sort of "isn't this democracy, get it" tipa na zdorov'e
p.s. i highly appreciate the info you 've provided
and of course,
again sorry for anything personal if there is any
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