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elDoraDo
11-05-2004, 01:06 AM
"The election has happened. America has spoken. The rest of the world should listen," Blair said. (http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20041105/ts_afp/us_vote_britain_blair_041105065731)


a hochetsya skazat: "F@*k You"
peace

Legend
11-05-2004, 01:07 AM
Loool:P The same here.

Martingale
11-05-2004, 01:11 AM
But still he is a good dancer..:lol:

http://www.roja.ru/flash.view.73.html

Mona Lisa
11-05-2004, 01:23 AM
Mdee .... Blair is just a puppet.

Why world should never listen to America/Bush
1. Cos of it's/his lies
2. Disrespect to International Laws and the UN
3. Because of its/his greed of oil
4. Because of America's/Bush's intervention to sovereignty of other nations
5. Because of so many innocent people's death
....

Martingale
11-05-2004, 01:37 AM
Mdee .... Blair is just a puppet.

Why world should never listen to America/Bush
1. Cos of it's/his lies
2. Disrespect to International Laws and the UN
3. Because of its/his greed of oil
4. Because of America's/Bush's intervention to sovereignty of other nations
5. Because of so many innocent people's death
....Exactly. After debates everybody said that Kerry won, because he looked perfect. But I think Bush said all the things what americans want.
Also most of Americans don't care about the rest of the world. If somewhere in the Middle East an American citizen is kidnapped that is worldwide issue. But what about taking over the president of whole country?

Legend
11-05-2004, 01:43 AM
Exactly. After debates everybody said that Kerry won, because he looked perfect. But I think Bush said all the things what americans want.
Also most of Americans don't care about the rest of the world. If somewhere in the Middle East an American citizen is kidnapped that is worldwide issue. But what about taking over the president of whole country?Even Kerry won the debates, most of them ppl knew Bush gonna win the elections.
And if u guys noticed the most "developed" and more "industrial" states elected Kerry(NY,all New England,CA,IL...),and all mid-states states ND,SD,AL,LA,OH,KY .... that are full of red necks and "faith" ppl (like VA,WVA,SC...)elected Bush:lol: Da i esli zametili to DC 90% bil za Kerry,it means something isn't it?

Mubina
11-05-2004, 01:45 AM
Blair and Bush from the same mold,

so it's clear why he is supporting Bush.


wassalama,
Mubina

elDoraDo
11-05-2004, 02:04 AM
Mdee .... Blair is just a puppet.

Why world should never listen to America/Bush
1. Cos of it's/his lies
2. Disrespect to International Laws and the UN
3. Because of its/his greed of oil
4. Because of America's/Bush's intervention to sovereignty of other nations
5. Because of so many innocent people's death
....


but they are already "listening" to him

stanford
11-05-2004, 11:52 AM
The only reason Blair has stood by Bush is because he rightly realises he is the very last bridge between USA and the rest of the world.He has brought his own people to war, for causes he doesn't believe in, obviously for political gain. And May be it's because Blair believed all that nuclear weapons or WMD inteligence crap given to him by the USA. OR if Bush and Blair worked a deal or not, but, nontheless, they both made grave errors in their planning and need to apologize to the public. Blair already did, so, Bush must apologize to the public, which he hasn't done yet...

Guardian
11-05-2004, 03:45 PM
Blair is not Bush. He is very intelligent, fully educated, liberal and lucky enough persona. Yes, he made big mistake about Irak, but he had to do so. Britain is now the only European partner for the USA with fast ties. Britons also regret over Irak war, they hate the government for sending Britons to the Irak battlefields where whole the coalition failed in finding WMD. Now, both Americans and Britons have to finsih what they have done. So, Blair can't do anything else rather then continueing 'reconstraction'. At least 700 british soldiers where killed during the useless war and whole the Britain are against the war.

Here:''The election has happened. America has spoken. The rest of the world should listen," Blair said.
He might say so because of certain reasons, but not for LOVE to Bush. Blair knows that Bush is too driven.
I bet, he would sympathize even Democrats would take The White House. Britian has became one of the most reliable and main friend of the USA in the europe, probably in the world. America is the country, who is supplying Britian with up-to-dated Weapons and war machines, submarine and alot others. For the sake of these, Britian have got bad reputation among other EU countriesd and has to be friend with the USA So Britian can easily can compete with France, Germany and etc.

What Blair said was, in favout of gaining better profite for the Britian. He didn't do fairly but it was logically right way. He is thinking of bringing better standards of life, innovations, high economic standards and democracy.

I doubt the other leader, Michel Howard (Conservative), could do better. Howard is just idiotic racist and too conservative :lol: He is intolerant and bigmouthed.

elDoraDo
11-17-2004, 08:32 AM
Британцы хотят дружить с Европой больше чем с США
Lenta.ru (http://www.webtelek.com/news.php?url=/world/2004/11/17/friend/) | Обновлено 17.11.2004 в 17:19:56

Большинство британцев не разделяют позиции своего премьер-министра о том, что их страна должна оказывать всяческую поддержку Соединенным Штатам. Вместо этого они хотели бы поддерживать добрые отношения с Европой.
По информации сайта ежедневной газеты Independent, проведенный недавно опрос общественного мнения показал, что 64 процента респондентов уверены, что дружба с партнерами по ЕС важнее дружбы...

WASP
11-17-2004, 08:48 AM
What Blaire said is a clear-cut common sense. There’re followers and leaders in every “world.” The US happens to be the L'eader of the World presently! So, why not listen to them? It's on mutual benefit for any country that supports the US. In a certain way, it kind of unifies the world -- also known as a "team work." No teams exist without a leader, so why the US should not be a leader? It deserves to be one, let them be. Every industry has its own leaders, whom the "followers" listen to. Everything Blaire said makes perfect sense, and I often get angry when bunch of kids try to condemn the PRESIDENTS of the GREATEST nations ever (UK & US), especially those who come from a country known for its greatest leaders! Why won't you all get a decent job first, and become "somebody" before trashing people of the highest caliber. Learn from them, not condemn. Debate his policies, but I don’t think it is for anybody to condemn what Bush has achieved.

elDoraDo
11-17-2004, 09:05 AM
What Blaire said is a clear-cut common sense. There’re followers and leaders in every “world.” The US happens to be the L'eader of the World presently! So, why not listen to them? It's on mutual benefit for any country that supports the US. In a certain way, it kind of unifies the world -- also known as a "team work." No teams exist without a leader, so why the US should not be a leader? It deserves to be one, let them be. Every industry has its own leaders, whom the "followers" listen to. Everything Blaire said makes perfect sense, and I often get angry when bunch of kids try to condemn the PRESIDENTS of the GREATEST nations ever (UK & US), especially those who come from a country known for its greatest leaders! Why won't you all get a decent job first, and become "somebody" before trashing people of the highest caliber. Learn from them, not condemn. Debate his policies, but I don’t think it is for anybody to condemn what Bush has achieved.

slishkom razniye u nas vzglyadi, skaju pojaluy
no ne nado govorit i tem bolee utochnyat o poziciyah of that "bunch of kids", aight?
respect

p.s.
"В некоторой степени свержение режима Саддама Хусейна было позитивным шагом, однако это вызвало мобилизацию воинственно настроенных мусульман по всему миру", - пояснил он. Во вторник Ширак, пользуясь примером Великобритании, заявил, что США обычно не платят услугой за услугу.

p.p.s. i would say that some lack in historical knowledge makes ppl to confuse much more than that historical knowledge does it...

elDoraDo
11-17-2004, 09:10 AM
the latter is about US's being the ever Great COuntry.... moreover UK

Hadarim Prince
11-17-2004, 10:58 AM
What Blaire said is a clear-cut common sense. There’re followers and leaders in every “world.” The US happens to be the L'eader of the World presently! So, why not listen to them? It's on mutual benefit for any country that supports the US. In a certain way, it kind of unifies the world -- also known as a "team work." No teams exist without a leader, so why the US should not be a leader? It deserves to be one, let them be. Every industry has its own leaders, whom the "followers" listen to. Everything Blaire said makes perfect sense, and I often get angry when bunch of kids try to condemn the PRESIDENTS of the GREATEST nations ever (UK & US), especially those who come from a country known for its greatest leaders! Why won't you all get a decent job first, and become "somebody" before trashing people of the highest caliber. Learn from them, not condemn. Debate his policies, but I don’t think it is for anybody to condemn what Bush has achieved.
Being a Muslim, why I dislike the US Empire, Bush, inclusive the all the US presidents, the senates and everything they represent. Below are some of the reasons:-



http://www.wrmea.com/archives/june2003/0306036.html

http://www.wrmea.com/html/us_aid_to_israel.htm

http://www.wrmea.com/archives/May_2004/0405026b.html

http://www.wrmea.com/archives/July_Aug_2004/0407027.html

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/suppression

I hope you did a thorough study before calling a leader or a nation great. Germany was once a great nation and Hitler was a great leader....dont you reckon?

WASP
11-17-2004, 12:30 PM
I am not sure what your point is. I know for a fact it's one-sided, but if you are trying to debate that the US isn't a predominant nation... I won't hassle trying to persuade you. It's a straightforward fact, unless you have any other nation in mind - share with me. Your hatred towards the "US Empire," however, is not reasonable and in a way undeveloped. I am not willing to visit those links, unless you bring up an argument and a reason why I should do so.

Webbie
11-17-2004, 04:07 PM
I am not sure what your point is. I know for a fact it's one-sided, but if you are trying to debate that the US isn't a predominant nation... I won't hassle trying to persuade you. It's a straightforward fact, unless you have any other nation in mind - share with me. Your hatred towards the "US Empire," however, is not reasonable and in a way undeveloped. I am not willing to visit those links, unless you bring up an argument and a reason why I should do so.

Wasp, my friend neujeli mi s toboy soglasilis'. good point!

Hadarim Prince
11-18-2004, 05:59 AM
I am not sure what your point is. I know for a fact it's one-sided, but if you are trying to debate that the US isn't a predominant nation... I won't hassle trying to persuade you. It's a straightforward fact, unless you have any other nation in mind - share with me. Your hatred towards the "US Empire," however, is not reasonable and in a way undeveloped. I am not willing to visit those links, unless you bring up an argument and a reason why I should do so.
I am sorry if you cant see the point or refuse to see it. I guess the fact that you do not want to visit those links already shows that you are not prepared to widen your perspective. It is never one-sided. I dont see how you can conclude that they are both great nations without first reading their historical facts. I too, will not try to convince you if you are not willing. I am merely stating here that I beg to differ.;)

WASP
11-18-2004, 07:07 AM
The fact that I don't want to visit those links is a mere request for you to bring whatever argument I may find in those links to this board. You neglected to state a solid disagreement, for which I refused to visit those links. If you did not read my signature, now would be the best time to do so. I would also like to request you to avoid speculating; your statement in the above post about me is beyond your personal knowledge. Concentrate on topic, if you would like to have a civilized conversation.

Hadarim Prince
11-18-2004, 07:53 AM
The fact that I don't want to visit those links is a mere request for you to bring whatever argument I may find in those links to this board. You neglected to state a solid disagreement, for which I refused to visit those links. If you did not read my signature, now would be the best time to do so. I would also like to request you to avoid speculating; your statement in the above post about me is beyond your personal knowledge. Concentrate on topic, if you would like to have a civilized conversation.
I dont think its speculating now as you clearly refuse to inspect the link, in this case my argument. I am concentrating on the topic and again I beg to differ as I mentioned earlier. I've seen your signature, well, I dont see the similarity.

'I'd rather have a mind opened by belief and facts then a mind closed by idolatry and false wonders.'

elDoraDo
11-18-2004, 08:47 AM
I dont think its speculating now as you clearly refuse to inspect the link, in this case my argument. I am concentrating on the topic and again I beg to differ as I mentioned earlier. I've seen your signature, well, I dont see the similarity.

'I'd rather have a mind opened by belief and facts then a mind closed by idolatry and false wonders.'
lol
agree

WASP
11-18-2004, 09:46 AM
I dont think its speculating now as you clearly refuse to inspect the link, in this case my argument. I am concentrating on the topic and again I beg to differ as I mentioned earlier. I've seen your signature, well, I dont see the similarity.

'I'd rather have a mind opened by belief and facts then a mind closed by idolatry and false wonders.'

I would politely advice you to reconsider that bitter attitude of yours. You sound like a frustrated monkey, who's just been screwed by several American soldiers, for which you won't gain much respect. Now, it is apparent that it's not in your interest to have a friendly conversation, nor do you want to say anything about your argument other than begging me to differ. It is not reasonable of me to differ my position at this time, since this conversation lacks any argument whatsoever. I stated they are the greatest nations, you mentioned your hatred. How do these statements correlate? I don't know. In fact, they don't. Don't fkin advocate me to go links, reveal your argument in your own words addressing to me in this forum. Otherwise, fk off. I was trying to be polite, but you seem to be “another” ignorant typical forum kid, the reason why you collected this, appropriate, treatment.

Hadarim Prince
11-18-2004, 09:23 PM
I would politely advice you to reconsider that bitter attitude of yours. You sound like a frustrated monkey, who's just been screwed by several American soldiers, for which you won't gain much respect. Now, it is apparent that it's not in your interest to have a friendly conversation, nor do you want to say anything about your argument other than begging me to differ. It is not reasonable of me to differ my position at this time, since this conversation lacks any argument whatsoever. I stated they are the greatest nations, you mentioned your hatred. How do these statements correlate? I don't know. In fact, they don't. Don't fkin advocate me to go links, reveal your argument in your own words addressing to me in this forum. Otherwise, fk off. I was trying to be polite, but you seem to be “another” ignorant typical forum kid, the reason why you collected this, appropriate, treatment.I knew it..you would resort to this. You use obscenities to express your anger and frustration. Speaking about civilised conversation..what a joke.This clearly reveal your personality now...I rest my case. I hope you have a wonderful time with your American and British Idols.;)