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RuslanSharipov
11-06-2004, 08:22 PM
Государственный террор Ислама Каримова
7 ноября 2004 года,
Калифорния, США
Уважаемый Джордж Буш,
Разрешите поблагодарить Ваше правительство за
оказанную мне поддержку, которая позволила мне обрести
свободу и безопасность на территории США.
Пользуясь этой возможностью хотел бы поздравить Вас с
переизбранием на пост Президента Соединенных Штатов
Америки. Американский народ оценил ту огромную работу,
проделанную Вашей администрацией на протяжении
последних лет.
Непосредственное внимание Госдепартамента США, а также
многих международных организаций, к сфабрикованному
против меня уголовному делу, сыграло огромную роль в
моем спасении от карательного режима Ислама Каримова.
Однако многие мои коллеги все еще находятся в
узбекских колониях.
В течении многих лет узбекские власти отказываются
освободить писателя Мамадали Махмудова, а также
журналистов Юсуфа Рузимурадова, Мухамада Бекжанова и
Гайрата Мехлибаева.
Ислам Каримов со своими спецслужбами продолжает
преследовать те немногие свободные голоса, уничтожая
любое инакомыслие на корню.
Главный отдел по борьбе с терроризмом МВД республики
выполняет основную роль в осуществлении
государтственного террора в отношении критиков
существующего режима.
Именно отдел по борьбе с терроризмом руководил и
контролировал сфабрикованное против меня уголовное
дело, в то время как само обвинение выдвинутое против
меня не имело никакого отношения к террористической
деятельности. Именно высшие сотрудники отдела по
борьбе с терроризмом подвергали меня пыткам и насилию.
Многие узбекские журналисты и правозащитники под
угрозами пыток и тюремного заключения вынуждены
сотрудничать с режимом, заниматься самоцензурой и
распространять дозированную информацию.
В узбекской прессе отсутствуют материалы о коррупции в
высших эшелонах власти, включая милецейский беспредел
и использование МВД в качестве карательной машины
правящего режима.
При этом официальный Узбекистан оправдывает свои
репрессии так называемой борьбой с терроризмом, вводя
в заблуждение международное сообщество и тем самым
укрепляя свои преступные позиции.
Регистрируя «подручные» правозащитные организации,
узбекские власти продолжают необоснованно отказывать в
регистрации Обществу Прав Человека Узбекистана
(www.hrsu.org), руководимое известным узбекским
правозащитником Талибом Якубовым. Члены ОПЧУ
подвергаются постояным репрессиям и тюремному
заключению, в то время как власти продолжали
преследовать членов семьи Талиба Якубова.
Оппозиционным партиям «Эрк» и «Бирлик» до сих пор не
удается получить регистрацию для законной деятельности
на территории республики, что лишает их возможности
участвовать в парламентских выборах.
В Узбекистане закрываются представительства
международных организаций, а многие журналисты не
могут получить аккредитацию для продолжения своей
деятельности.
Режим Ислама Каримова с каждым годом становится все
более похожим на свергнутый режим Садама Хусейна.
Большинство узбекских граждан влекут нищенское
существование, потеряв всякую надежду в «светлое
будущее», о котором узбекский диктатор заявляет со
всевозможных трибун.
За годы независимости министерство внутренних дел
Узбекистана инициировало фабрикацию десятков тысяч
уголовных дел против мирных верующих, из которых свыше
6.000 до сих пор содержат в местах лишения свободы. Их
продолжают пытать и убивать, посылая изувеченные трупы
родным и близким.
Только за время моего заключения в колонии Товаксай
несколько заключенных погибло в результате пыток.
Неподвижные тела других в предсмертном состоянии
увозили в неизвестном направлении.
Продолжает расти недовольство узбекских граждан в
отношении проводимой политики.
Последние события актов массового неповиновения и
протестов в Коканде и Бухаре наглядно отражают
опасность и напряженность сложившейся ситуации.
По мнению руководителя узбекской правозащитной группы
ИГНПУ Сурата Икрамова:
«Воздействие на власти Узбекистана, в области прав
человека со стороны США, могло бы в какой – то мере
улучшить ситуацию в области прав человека. Необходимо
применение экономических санкций в отношении
Узбекистана, с требованиями выполнения принятых
Международных договоров по правам человека. Власть в
Узбекистане полностью узурпирована диктатором –
Исламом Каримовым. Все административные структуры,
правительственные органы, депутаты парламента,
судебная власть и руководители (хокимы) областей,
городов и районов назначаются лично президентом и не
контролируются никаким органом.»
Многие узбекские правозащитники и журналисты сегодня
разделяют точку зрения известного правозащитника
Сурата Икрамова и считают необходимым принять
серьезные меры в отношении узбекского диктатора и его
правительства, возлагая свои надежды на США и другие
демократические государства.
Уважаемый Джордж Буш, в этой связи, я хотел бы
обратиться к Вам с просьбой содействовать:
- в освобождении моих коллег писателя Мамадали
Махмудова, журналистов Гайрата Мехлибаева, Мухамада
Бекжанова и Юсуфа Рузимурадова, жизнь которых
находится в постоянной опасности
- в прекращении преследований узбекских
правозащитников, писателей и журналистов, а также в
создании свободных и беспрепятсвенных условий для их
независимой деятельности
- в освобождении свыше 6.000 мирных верующих, которых
продолжают пытать и убивать в местах лишения свободы
Узбекистана
- в принятии экстренного решения о более серьезных
мерах в отношении Узбекистана, в то время как
узбекский лидер в течении долгих лет продолжает
игнорировать протесты международного сообщества о
соблюдении международных документов, подписанных
Узбекистаном
Будучи жертвой правящего режима Ислама Каримова,
жертвой пыток и государтсвенного террора, я искренне
надеюсь, что США сделает все необходимое, чтобы
узбекские граждане обрели конституционные права и
освободились от правящего режима, который заставил
меня и многих других граждан на протяжении последних
лет покинуть Узбекистан.
Руслан Шарипов,
независимый журналист
Faqir_fuqaro
11-06-2004, 08:54 PM
DECLARATION ON THE STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP AND COOPERATION FRAMEWORK BETWEEN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND THE REPUBLIC OF UZBEKISTAN
The United States of America and the Republic of Uzbekistan, hereinafter referred to as the Sides, Seeking to establish qualitatively new and mutually beneficial relations in the political, economic, military, military-technical, humanitarian and other areas:
Recognizing the importance of competent implementation of democratic and market reforms in Uzbekistan as a necessary condition for ensuring political, social, and economic stability, sustainable development, prosperity, and national security:
Recognizing the fundamental principles of the indivisibility of global and regional security:
Convinced that the independence, territorial integrity and sustainable development of the Republic of Uzbekistan, as well as the inviolability of its borders, is one of the key factors in maintaining stability and security in Central Asia:
With deep appreciation for the relations that have been established between the two countries and that are based on common goals, including combating international terrorism and eradicating economic and financial sources of support for extremism and terrorism: and Reaffirming their commitment to the legal objectives and principles of the United Nations Charter and the political objectives and principles of the Helsinki Final Act of the Organization for the Security and Cooperation in Europe, and the Charter of Paris for a New Europe, as well as the principles of international law and human rights set forth in both UN and OSCE documents:
Have reached mutual understanding on the following:
I. COOPERATION IN THE POLITICAL FIELD
Article 1.1 Principles of Cooperation
The Sides should implement bilateral cooperation and develop a strategic partnership based on the universally recognized principles and norms of international law; respect for the sovereignty, independence and territorial integrity of both states; non-interference in each other’s internal affairs; commitment to democratic values and human rights and freedoms; and conscientious fulfillment of their international obligations.
Article 1.2 Cooperation in the Area of Democratization
The Uzbek side reaffirms its commitment and intention to further intensify the democratic transformation of society in the political, economic and spiritual areas, taking into account the obligations deriving from international treaties and the requirements of national legislation. The United States side will endeavor to provide appropriate advice, aid, and assistance, consistent with U.S. law, to the Uzbek side and Uzbek society to implement democratic reforms in the following priority areas, where both sides expect concrete progress:
strengthening the foundation for a secular state based on the rule of law, a market-based economy and an effective social safety net, and building a strong and open civil society;
further strengthening and developing democratic values in the society, ensuring respect for human rights and freedoms based on the universally recognized principles and norms of international law;
enhancing the role of democratic and political institutions in the life of society; establishing a genuine multi-party system; developing political culture and activism among citizens; ensuring free and fair elections, political pluralism, diversity of opinions, and the freedom to express them; and ensuring the independence of the media;
further strengthening and developing non-governmental structures, including non-governmental and public organizations, including independent media, as well as organs of self-government , and simplifying the procedure for registering them;
ensuring implementation of the constitutional principle of separation of powers, improving the lawmaking process, and increasing the oversight functions of the legislature, including through the establishment of a freely elected and multi-party bicameral legislature;
further improving the judicial and legal system and adopting additional measures to ensure the independence of the courts as a fully empowered, independent branch of government; and
further improving the activities of executive and administrative agencies and increasing public oversight of their activities. The forms of cooperation in this area should be determined within the framework of individual programs and agreements.
Faqir_fuqaro
11-06-2004, 08:55 PM
II. SECURITY COOPERATION IN THE MILITARY AND MILITARY-TECHNICAL FIELD
Article 2.1 Security Issues
Recognizing that the security of states in the region is key to the development, prosperity, and stability of Central Asia, and developing a qualitatively new, long-term relationship, the United States affirms that it would regard with grave concern any external threat to the security and territorial integrity of the republic of Uzbekistan. Were this to occur, the United States will consult with the Republic of Uzbekistan on an urgent basis to develop and implement an appropriate response in accordance with the U.S. constitutional procedures. For its part, the Republic of Uzbekistan recognizes the critical importance of developing close, cooperative ties with its neighbors and promoting efforts at regional cooperation.
Article 2.2 Combating Transnational Threats to Security The Sides expect to develop cooperation in combating international terrorism, trafficking in persons, narcotics trafficking, organized crime, money laundering, illegal trafficking in weapons, munitions and explosives, and other transnational threats to security while respecting internationally recognized human rights and the rule of law.
Cooperation in this field may include:
holding regular consultations on problems of ensuring security and stability in Central Asia, including political, military, economic, environmental, and other aspects;
establishing cooperation, on a permanent basis, between the law enforcement agencies and military services and agencies of the Sides, consistent with the national laws of the Sides;
training special units of the Republic of Uzbekistan in combating terrorism, illegal narcotics trafficking, money laundering, and other transnational threats, and providing them with training assistance and equipment, and developing the necessary methodological and logistical basis for training special units;
supporting the regime of non-proliferation of nuclear, bacteriological, biological, and chemical weapons and means of their delivery, as well as dual-purpose technologies;
intensifying the export-control cooperative relationship to create an effective export-control system in the republic of Uzbekistan;
further strengthening and building up the infrastructure of the state border of the republic of Uzbekistan and ensuring greater effectiveness in guarding and protecting the border; and
other forms of cooperation as the Sides see fit.
Article 2.3 Bilateral Military and Military-Technical Cooperation The Sides take note of the dynamic development of military and military-technical cooperation between the two countries and intend to intensify relations in this area in the future.
The Sides may cooperate in the following areas;
modernizing and reforming the Armed Forces of the Republic of Uzbekistan, including training in civil-military relations and its obligations for conduct under international conventions, increasing their combat readiness, and providing training and advanced training of specialists, officers and command staff of the Armed forces of the Republic of Uzbekistan;
using up-to-date information and computer technologies in training military personnel, and establishing and developing distance learning, and modeling and simulation systems in the republic of Uzbekistan;
re-equipping the Armed Forces of the Republic of Uzbekistan with weapons and military hardware, providing assistance in modernizing and restoring the weapons and military hardware of the Armed Forces of the Republic of Uzbekistan;
actively utilizing the entire complex of existing international mechanism and instruments in providing military-technical assistance to the Republic of Uzbekistan, developing its military infrastructure, and strengthening the logistical and training/methodological foundation of military educational institutions and training centers of the Armed forces of the republic of Uzbekistan; and
other forms of cooperation as the Sides see fit.
Article 2.4 Cooperation under the Partnership for Peace Program In accordance with the requirements of their national legislation and their international obligations, and within the framework of the Republic of Uzbekistan’s participation in NATO’s Planning and Review Process (PARP) program and in Partnership for Peace program, the Sides expect to develop cooperation on both bilateral and multilateral basis for the purpose of:
training of peacekeeping units of the Republic of Uzbekistan, conducting bilateral and multilateral exercises within the framework of NATO Partnership for Peace and plans for bilateral contacts;
establishment of a NATO Partnership for Peace Training Center in the Republic of Uzbekistan, and organization of its activities; assistance by the U.S. side in strengthening the center’s methodological and logistical base and providing appropriate assistance for its activities;
assistance in the study and phased introduction of NATO standards in the Armed Forces of the Republic of Uzbekistan, to include equipping them with appropriate types of weapons and military hardware, as well as training military personnel within the NATO Partnership for Peace framework;
implementation of other measures as the Sides see fit.
Article 2.5 Disaster and Emergency Prevention and Response The Sides reaffirm that sustainable development of the Central Asian region would benefit if cooperation in preventing and responding to natural disasters and natural, technogenic, and environmental emergencies is developed to the maximum extent possible.
The cooperation between the Sides in this field may include;
developing the capabilities of the countries of the region to predict and prevent emergencies;
increasing the preparedness of the population and the effectiveness of the emergency services of the republic of Uzbekistan in preventing and responding to emergencies, as well as averting the consequences of natural, technogenic, and environmental disasters;
promoting cooperation between the governmental and non-governmental organizations of the Sides to promote the prevention of natural, technogenic and environmental emergencies and disasters and mitigating the consequences of such situations;
planning, developing and implementing joint measures to increase the capacities of emergency services to act in disaster response; and
other forms of cooperation as the Sides see fit.
Faqir_fuqaro
11-06-2004, 08:56 PM
III. COOPERATION IN THE ECONOMIC FIELD
Article 3.1 Development of Economic Cooperation
In support of Uzbekistan’s transition to a market-based economy and its integration in the world economic system, the Sides plan to give priority to the economic aspect of bilateral cooperation. This relationship should focus on Uzbekistan’s commitment to implement macroeconomic, financial, and structural reforms, including efforts to improve the economic prospects of the most vulnerable segments of the population. Economic reforms should be aimed at liberalizing the economy, achieving currency convertibility, increasing competitiveness, and developing the private sector.
Article 3.2 Implementation of Market Reforms
The Uzbek side reaffirms its commitment to implementing large-scale market reforms and intends to take steps aimed at:
liberalizing all spheres and sectors of the economy, and expanding the freedom and economic independence of business entities;
deepening structural reforms aimed at sustainable economic development, including in the areas of banking and finance; privatization; agriculture, including the procurement system; capital markets; and private-sector development;
creating a legal and regulatory environment conducive to the development of an efficient market-based economy; and
creating an attractive investment climate to attract foreign capital, by creating clear and transparent legal conditions that bar corruption, encourage good business and corporate governance, and respect contractual agreements. The Uzbek side also reaffirms its full cooperation with the International Monetary Fund and other international financial institutions in order to:
achieve unification and convertibility of the national currency, and to fully implement the obligations under the article VIII of the Articles of Agreement of the International Monetary Fund;
increase the effectiveness of foreign economic relations, develop and strengthen Uzbekistan’s export capacities, and update procedures and mechanisms in the field of customs rate regulations; and
provide accurate data to the international financial institutions, and adopt internationally acceptable accounting standards. Article 3.3 Provision of Priority and Long-term Assistance in Implementing Economic Reforms In support of Uzbekistan’s implementation of economic reforms to achieve sustainable growth, the U.S. side reaffirms its willingness to:
promote bilateral programs of technical assistance that are consistent with Uzbekistan’s long-term interests; and
support the Republic of Uzbekistan’s dialogue with international financial institutions as the Republic of Uzbekistan demonstrates adherence to their mutually agreed conditionalities and programs. Article 3.4 Development of Trade and Investment Cooperation The Sides should also seek to develop and expand WTO-consistent trade and investment cooperation by: a) expanding the scope of technical assistance provided to the Republic of Uzbekistan within the framework of appropriate United States government and other international programs aimed at:
development of technical and economic justifications for attracting to Uzbekistan U.S. companies and banks participating in investment projects, including in the field of small and medium-sized business;
introduction of international standards of quality and certification of export products, and the use of up-to-date marketing technologies to promote Uzbek products on the world market; and
development of energy-saving and information technologies. b) encouraging private-sector development activities, including through support for the development of small and medium-sized business, and other areas of mutual interest.
c) establishing in Uzbekistan the conditions essential to attract foreign investment, facilitating the use of the Overseas Private Investment Corporation (OPIC) programs for investment projects, privatization of large government-owned enterprises, development of small and medium-sized private business and the infrastructure of international tourism, as well as in other spheres of the nation’s economy; and
d) expanding reciprocal access to markets of goods, labor and services, including working toward terminating the application of Jackson-Vanik Amendment provisions and toward Permanent Normal Trade Relations status for the Republic of Uzbekistan; and assistance from appropriate United States government entities in the process of the republic of Uzbekistan’s accession to the WTO.
Article 3.5 Expansion of Regional Cooperation in Central Asia The Sides reaffirm their goal of expanding and intensifying regional cooperation in Central Asia, and the desirability of providing assistance in strengthening friendly and neighborly relations among the countries of the region in matters relating to:
comprehensive development of economic relations among the nations of the Central Asian region;
formulation of effective forms and mechanisms for implementing agreements aimed at expanding reciprocal trade and investment among the nations of the region and beyond, including the development of common customs and tariff regimes consistent with WTO rules;
efficient and mutually beneficial use of water-management facilities, hydroelectric power resources, and other water-related infrastructures in Central Asia on the basis of generally recognized principles and norms of international law and improvement of the mechanism of interstate use of transnational water resources;
establishing an interlinked regional and inter-regional transport, energy, and telecommunications infrastructure, including a system of international vehicular and railway transportation within the framework of the proposed "Europe-Caucasus-Asia" transportation and communications corridor; and
combating regional and transnational crime, especially narcotics trafficking, organized crime, human trafficking, and terrorism, through law enforcement cooperation among nations of the region and beyond.
Faqir_fuqaro
11-06-2004, 08:57 PM
IV. COOPERATION IN THE HUMANITARIAN FIELD AND IN DEVELOPMENT OF HUMAN
RESOURCES
Article 4.1 Cooperation in Specialized Training, Education, Public Health, Environmental Protection The Sides intend to cooperate actively in the humanitarian field, particularly in the area of specialized training, education, public health, and environmental protection.
Cooperation in this field may include:
providing humanitarian aid, including medicines, pharmaceuticals, medical equipment and supplies, food aid, clothing and other humanitarian commodities to the populace of the Republic of Uzbekistan, including in zones of environmental distress;
development of human resources, including by providing professional and academic exchanges and training and Internet access, and by considering appropriate assistance to the Republic of Uzbekistan’s new vocational colleges and academic high schools;
assistance for socially oriented projects to be implemented in Uzbekistan in the area of improving the primary health care system, including the establishment of a network of regional emergency medical training centers, technical assistance to rural clinics, improvement of the system for preventing infectious diseases and vaccinating the populace, specialized training and other projects in the context of implementing the Republic of Uzbekistan’s National Program for improving the public health system;
encouraging international exchanges and initiatives of non-governmental organizations; and
such other forms of cooperation as the Sides see fit.
Article 4.2 Cooperation in the Field of Science and Technology The Sides expect to cooperate actively in the area of basic sciences and the humanities, and also in high-technology areas. The Sides agree to discuss the possibility of entering into a Science and Technology Agreement between their governments that could provide significant mutual benefits.
Cooperation in this field may include:
scientific exchange, contacts, and interaction of Sides’ scientific associations, institutions, scholars, and specialists;
establishment of joint scientific associations;
the organization and carrying out of joint scientific investigations, including in high-technology areas;
the implementation of promising projects, including ones that serve the interests of ensuring security and stability in the Central Asian region;
specialized training in branches of science and technology that have priority for the Republic of Uzbekistan, including in high-technology areas;
provision by the U.S. side of technical and financial assistance in strengthening and developing the Republic of Uzbekistan’s system of scientific institutions through exchanges and grant programs consistent with the U.S. law; and
such other forms of cooperation as the Sides see fit.
Article 4.3 Cooperation in the Area of the Human Dimension The Sides expect to cooperate actively in matters of the human dimension, and express their resolve to ensure the effective exercise and protection of human rights and basic human freedoms, and the strengthening of democracy’s accomplishments in light of the requirements of international law and national legislation.
Article 4.4 Cooperation in the Field of Information
The Sides wish to encourage a broad and free exchange of information among the mass media, including non-governmental media, and each wishes to encourage the dissemination in the territory of its country of print, audio, and video products and other informational materials of other country, in accordance with the existing national laws of each Side. The Sides should seek to promote intensified cooperation by the professional associations of journalists and independent journalists of the two countries; the organization of exchanges of information and journalists; the holding of meetings, seminars, and conferences involving specialists on the mass media; and implementation of joint projects in the area of journalist training.
The forms of cooperation and the conditions for exchanges may be developed through agreements between the relevant organizations of two countries. The Sides, through the relevant government agencies, should cooperate and exchange experience in the fields of democratization of the mass media.
V. COOPERATION IN THE LEGAL FIELD
Article 5.1 Avenues of Cooperation in the Legal Field Recognizing the shared view of the need to build in Uzbekistan a rule-of-law state and democratic society in accordance with international norms, the Sides will endeavor to develop cooperation in improving the legislative process, the law-based government system, and the judicial system, and enhancing the citizen’s legal culture and knowledge of law and the training of legal specialists.
Article 5.2 Improvement of Legislation
The Sides plan to cooperate in improving the Republic of Uzbekistan’s legislation in the light of generally recognized principles and standards of international law.
The cooperation may take place in the following areas:
supporting the primacy of law; protecting the rights and interests of the individual, the family, society, and the state; and strengthening and improving the legal defense of the rights and interests of citizens and legal entities;
establishing the legislative foundations for further democratization and liberalization, improving the activity of courts, and ensuring the independence of judges;
working to ensure that penal institutions meet international standards;
organizing seminars, training courses, and conferences, and exchanging visits by specialists and experts on current issues relating to contemporary law and law-making;
training and retraining personnel who take part in drafting and applying legislative and regulatory enactments;
exchanging information on legislation and the practice of its application; providing assistance in the translation of legislative and regulatory enactments; and
such other forms of cooperation as the Sides see fit.
The Sides intend also to endeavor to intensify their inter-parliamentary relations, and to promote improvement of the activity of the Republic of Uzbekistan’s Supreme Legislative Body.
Article 5.3 Cooperation of Law-Enforcement Agencies The Sides intend to promote intensified cooperation and enhanced effectiveness of interaction on the part of the Sides’ law enforcement agencies in conformity with existing agreements.
Cooperation in this field should be focused on:
specialized training and enhancement of skills of employees of the Republic of Uzbekistan’s law enforcement agencies with respect for internationally recognized human rights and rule of law, including organizing internships and conducting relevant seminars and training courses;
exchange of work experience by law enforcement agencies, particularly in combating terrorism, narcotics trafficking, trafficking in persons, money laundering, and organized crime, as well as other particularly dangerous crimes;
strengthening the material and technical base of the Republic of
Uzbekistan’ law enforcement agencies; and
exchanging information on the operation of the penitentiary systems, in context of a program for humanizing the penitentiary system, particularly in matters relating to retraining convicts for life in society after their release from their place of imprisonment.
Faqir_fuqaro
11-06-2004, 08:58 PM
VI. GENERAL
The Sides should endeavor to find new fields of joint activity, and to expand and intensify their relations. They may wish to conclude other bilateral intergovernmental and interagency understandings in order to implement the specific provisions and intentions of this Declaration. Nothing in this Declaration is intended to effect an obligation of funds by either side nor to prejudice the rights and obligations of the Sides under existing agreements, and everything provided should be subject to the laws and regulations of both countries.
Signed at Washington, in duplicate, on March 12, 2002, in the English and Uzbek languages.
FOR THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA FOR THE REPUBLIC OF UZBEKISTAN
Signature of Colin Powell Signature of Abdulaziz Komilov
http://www.usembassy.uz/home/index.aspx?&mid=400
stanford
11-07-2004, 12:48 AM
Karimov,he managed to completely turn-around in Uzbekistan after the disastorous leftovers of the former USSR, and he is actually a really great leader,transforming his nation into a mighty, peaceful society, helping to fight terrorism in the process. If you examine it carefully, you can see that Karimov and Bush have many similar policies to help their countries. I can understand the jailings of government: they only jailed those who they percieved to be enemies of the society.I have the right to express my opinion even the rest of the people don't think so.
GLORY TO THE MOTHERLAND!
Kiyovtura
11-07-2004, 05:09 AM
Kto nibud znaet kak mojno yahoo vzlomat'? ya svoy parol poteryal i ne znayu kak tuda zayti tak kak ne pomnyu informaciyu kotoruyu vvodil kogda otkrival yashik.
RS
ute tama daljna bit' al'ternativnaya e-mail vot tamje daljno i bit tvoy parol',
ya toje v takuyu situatsiyu popadal i vot ...
ey Sharipov pozvol' sprosit' , a zachem et vsyo te nadota a? vet' ti, uje v USA?
delay biznes nachinay stroit svoyu NOVUYU jizn, gulyay vesilis, a v politiku pust gryaznye lyudi igrayut, vet' USA ne v lune, netakli???
;)
furik
11-07-2004, 10:33 AM
"Регистрируя «подручные» правозащитные организации,
узбекские власти продолжают необоснованно отказывать в
регистрации Обществу Прав Человека Узбекистана
(www.hrsu.org), руководимое известным узбекским
правозащитником Талибом Якубовым. Члены ОПЧУ
подвергаются постояным репрессиям и тюремному
заключению, в то время как власти продолжали
преследовать членов семьи Талиба Якубова. "
AFAIR, there was entire campaign by R.Sharipov against Yaqubov, where Sharipov was calling him thief, who pretends to be h.r. activists to get foreign grands. In return, Yaqubov called Sharipov SNB agent, saying he was surprised to be approached by Sharipov who could be working somewhere else... Voobshem oba sideli i drug druga gryaz'yu polivali. Our human rights is basically collection of jypcies on the Chorsu, that's why noone will take them seriously.
Nu druzya, nemogu odnaznachno skazat' otnositel'no rejima I.K.. Kto mojet dat' garantiyu, chto ekonomicheskaya ili politicheskaya situaziya bilo bi luchshe pri drugom prezidente ili drugoy partii? Dumayu, esli u nas takaya uchest', to pust' eto budet k luchshemu. Za to mi uje znaem kto takiyi talibi, vahobiti, hizbuti i nuriyzi.
P.S.:Nikto ne podarit NAM horoshayu jizn', amerikashki tem bolee. Amerikozov mojno nayti tam, gde est' interes.
Samarqand
11-07-2004, 11:57 AM
Ruslan :) vaska ti, jurnalist govorish ti hot ponimayesh u kovo ot kovo pomoshi prosish?
kajetsya net.
tejolo navernoye vam Geyam ili kto ti tam Bisexual.
noodles
11-07-2004, 12:04 PM
Режим Ислама Каримова с каждым годом становится все
более похожим на свергнутый режим Садама Хусейна.
And you want to say that it's time to send US troops to UZB?
Royal
11-07-2004, 04:08 PM
Государственный террор Ислама Каримова
7 ноября 2004 года,
Калифорния, США
Уважаемый Джордж Буш,
Разрешите поблагодарить Ваше правительство за
оказанную мне поддержку, которая позволила мне обрести
свободу и безопасность на территории США.
....
Руслан Шарипов,
независимый журналист
Vopros:
Dlya chego eto ? logika ?
Guardian
11-07-2004, 04:20 PM
And you want to say that it's time to send US troops to UZB?
They(troops) are already in UZB:) He wants to say to start bombings;) Unfortunately, the case is impossible in that case..., coz we don't have oil and we are not in border with next victim, Iran.;)
Nu druzya, nemogu odnaznachno skazat' otnositel'no rejima I.K.. Kto mojet dat' garantiyu, chto ekonomicheskaya ili politicheskaya situaziya bilo bi luchshe pri drugom prezidente ili drugoy partii? Dumayu, esli u nas takaya uchest', to pust' eto budet k luchshemu. Za to mi uje znaem kto takiyi talibi, vahobiti, hizbuti i nuriyzi.
P.S.:Nikto ne podarit NAM horoshayu jizn', amerikashki tem bolee. Amerikozov mojno nayti tam, gde est' interes.
Ptravilno..nikto nepodarit nam horoshuyu jizn`,krome samih sebya.Ya dumayu vo pervih demokratiyu,kajdiy doljen iskat v svoem dushe.Nado osvoboditsya ot takih privichek kak vzyatnichestvo,nenavist`,tsenizm,a takje, delenie natsii.Kak bi eto ne bilo pechal`no u nas net Yedinstva.Da nichjego ne podelaesh ,riba gneet s golovi.A chistyat` ee s hvosta.Ya schitayu chto golova ribi ne praviteli nashi,a narod.Tak kak eti praviteli toje vishli iz naroda.Oni vospitovalis` v okrujenie etogo naroda,mahalli,sem`i.Qush uyasida ko`rganini qiladi.Mojet eto ne vina naroda,mojet eto vina sovetskogo vospitanie,no esli obratitsya k istorii,daje v istorii unas ne bilo edinstva,imenno poetomu nas legko zavoyevali. Esli mi hotim jit` horoshem jizni,s obespechennim sotsial`nim polojeniem,nam predstoit ves`ma trudnaya zadacha:Ne unosledovat` ot nashih predkov vishe upominuemie privichki.Bit` chestnim v otnoshenii sebya,potom v sem`e,a potom uj v obshestve.
Ya ochen` lyublyu svoy narod,no obidno, kogda mi drug pritiv druga nastraivaemsya,delimsya na klani,ish`em oshibok i raduemsya ,vmesto togo chto bi pomoch` emu ispravit` ee.Ya mechtayu chto,kogda nibud` nashe pokolenie ili nashi deti dobyutsya EDINSTVA ,SPRAVEDLIVOSTI v obshestve.No vse nachinaetsya s samogo sebya....
Legend
11-08-2004, 12:30 AM
.....Eeeeeeeehhhhhhhh,mne bi vashi problemi.
Prince
11-08-2004, 12:35 AM
And you want to say that it's time to send US troops to UZB?
axa Vot Imenno Mr Ruslan Sharipov !!!!!!
He took Iraq , and maybe he's thinking about taking Iran!? Or anywhere else!?
mojet skajete mne uvajaemiy Sharipov - vse esho dumaete chto Bush is good? or right?
da on tebe pomog vibratsa iz Uzbekistana , dal tebe jilyo i vse takoe , no poymi on vsem ne pomojet NIKOGDA , on tak i budet idti dalshe , i pritom dlya pokazuhi dadut takim kak ti , status bejensa , poskolku esli ktoto sprosit ego: on gordostyu skajet: Vot smori skolko bejentsov u nas , vse oni ne mogli spokoyno jit v svoix stranax, vot mi im pomogli.....
Da nu ego.......
Prince
11-09-2004, 03:20 PM
A ti Mr Sharipov...
u tebya prosto drugovo vidoh-a net , the only choice: Stay in US i jit tam spokoyno normalno. vot i vse ... a tak ne nado tut portit nam nastroenie and post ur posts like:
MnogoUvajaemiy President Bush.. blah blah blah...
udachi
Jaloliddin
11-09-2004, 05:06 PM
Nu druzya, nemogu odnaznachno skazat' otnositel'no rejima I.K.. Kto mojet dat' garantiyu, chto ekonomicheskaya ili politicheskaya situaziya bilo bi luchshe pri drugom prezidente ili drugoy partii? Dumayu, esli u nas takaya uchest', to pust' eto budet k luchshemu. Za to mi uje znaem kto takiyi talibi, vahobiti, hizbuti i nuriyzi.
P.S.:Nikto ne podarit NAM horoshayu jizn', amerikashki tem bolee. Amerikozov mojno nayti tam, gde est' interes.I can't sleep tonight your eye very strange , making me very scaring, tovbaaaa...:shock:
Body LOVE
11-09-2004, 07:57 PM
Nu che mojno skazat' ....................molotok !
Reshilsya tak krasivo pripodnesti .Vsetaki doljenbil ktoto eto skazat'!
Kogdanibud' doljnaje izmenitsya eto hernya! Ktobi nepomog vse ravno.No naschet US Goverm. ne uveren.Anyway cooll..............I appr. u. !!!!!!!!!!
I.A. LACA ...
демократия это всеобщее равенство перед законом и изначально равные возможности...в Уз. такого в принципе быть не может т.к. нет традиций поэтому это было либо идиотизмом либо спланированной акцией где уже все шаги были известны....это я насчет Шарипова...а то что он сейчас пишет...да пусть пишет, вы же сами хотите демократии вот одно из ее проявлений.;)
Vostochnaya...
11-10-2004, 02:18 AM
And you want to say that it's time to send US troops to UZB?
vo-vo Max, respect tebe! predvoshitil moyu mysl'!
vobshem, nichego prilichnogo v adres R.S. mne v golovu ne idet. u menya sozdalos' takoe vpechatlenie, chto visheupomyanutyi Ruslan Sharipov, za spasenie svoei shkury gotov teper' jizn' otdat' za Busha, no eto ego lichnoe delo. pust rassypaetsya v blagodarnosti skol'ko ego dushe budet ugodno. delo ne v etom. mne sovsem ne ponyatno, zachem je vse internal dela Uzbekistana predstavlyat' v takom svete, da eshe i v pis'me amerikanskomu prezidentu, kotorii spit i vidit, kak by pobystree zavladet' central'noi aziei. prosto, da, ya ponimayu, v kajdoi strane xvataet svoix problem, no zachem je tak otkrito vystavlyat' svoyu nenavist', daje esli tebe i podlojili svin'yu? neujeli budet luchshe, esli vo vsem mire vocaritsya amerikanskaya gegmoniya?
da, eshe vot chto xotela skazat'. chto vy dob'etes', svergnuv rejim Karimova? da, k vlasti pridut drugie, no pervoe, chto oni nachnut delat' - eto obogaschat' sebya i svoix rodnix. na narod im budet naplevat'. tak ne luchshe li, esli pri vlasti ostanetsya nineshnee pravitel'stvo, tem bolee chto, poka v Uzb otnositel'no tixo, razrushitel'nix voin, slava Allaxu net. a to, chto vy delaete - eto kak raz napravleno na to chtoby vovlech' Uzb v voinu kak minimum...imho.
Samarqand
11-10-2004, 03:03 AM
Kakoy koshmar! Vi tolko posmotrite na etot obman, razve mojno nash mustakilik, tinchlik-minchlik tak pozorit, manaviyat va marifat ponimaesh' li, ya prsto v shoke ot chudikov kotoriye na etom sayte nash mustakilik pozoryat :( :
Diana my sis.
u nevo tejoliy sluchay, personalnaya travma. to chto on perejil bilo ujasno.
no on Gey i dumayet chto demokratiya vsemu resheniye i v nashey strane etoy demokratii net. on uchilsya etoy demokratii v us i navernika izuchil (kak sposobniy malchik) vsyo pro etu stranu, kak i kem ona osnovovalas i kakih visot ona dobilas i hochet chto b Nash Uzbekistan bil pohojim na us.
nu chto s Geya vozmyosh. kogda chelovek stayot populyarnim on sebya gumit da i tolko.
poor old chap
noodles
11-10-2004, 03:25 AM
This letter was posted here to see how our ppl will react. I can say that it's not been sent to "Mr.Cowboy". And I wonder why this fag opens a thread and just leaves it... he doesn't defend his views in debates, if he's a human rights fighter why don't he tells us all that stuff here?
Samarqand
11-10-2004, 04:07 AM
diana my sis.
chesno skazat mne do mutaqillika gluboko n-t.
to chto on yest eto horosho, to chto iz nevo delayut net.
manaviyat i marifat on u naroda vsegda bil i budet i bez mustaqillika.
i interview ego kak to ne hochu slushat. znayu o chyom budet pet.
spasibo za link anyway sis.
Vostochnaya...
11-10-2004, 04:16 AM
if he's a human rights fighter why don't he tells us all that stuff here?
не знаю, до сих пор сомневаюсь, тот ли он, за кого себя выдает? склоняюсь к мысли что нет.
да, он мнит себя независимым журналистом, но где конкретные доказательства этого? или он только способен кричать на весь мир о своей оскорбленной персоне? между прочим, я тоже сейчас могу встать и пойти во все международные организации, настрочить несколько писем сомнительного характера, дать пару обличающих интервью, запросто могу обвинить всех политиков...это может каждый. но что это дает (кроме пиара, конечно)?
хотя, может он действительно пытается донести свою мысль до мирового сообщества, а мы, глупцы, не понимаем этого...
Vostochnaya...
11-10-2004, 04:39 AM
Poetapno razvivat'sya nado druz'ya, kak skazal nash velkiy Islam Abduganievich Karimov, svoboda slova eto HOROSHO, no uzdechki otpuskat' nel'zya, a to...
верно говоришь! люди сначала должны понять что есть свобода слова, чтобы правильно ею пользоваться. если же бразды правления передать целиком народу, то не выльется ли это в гражданскую войну и хаос? каждый станет тянуть одеяло на себя, и в конце концов все, что было построено с трудом рухнет. не остаться бы возле разбитого корыта.
просто критиковать правительство всегда легко, но ведь оно-то есть! и работает, между прочим. худо-бедно, но работает.
Mona Lisa
11-10-2004, 04:58 AM
And you want to say that it's time to send US troops to UZB?
In fact troops already in Uzb. Just waiting for a deployment :rolleyes: :lol:
R.Sharipov, why you keep pointing your finger at IAK?
Is there anything you've done yourself, smallest change in one person's life as a human rights activist?
(I know you may not answer my question judging from so many unanswered questions on this thread)
I'm not defending him, but it's to some respect useless and incorrect to blame one person for everything, even although he is a president with substantial power. IMHO, it's overly optimistic to expect everything from one person and blame if things do not work out. There is a system of abuse, it doesn't just start from the top. Why not start from the bottom, from small changes in estabilishing human rights recognition. Hence make the real difference to people and earn their respect which could give you a power to challenge those on the top.
Zamon
11-10-2004, 12:27 PM
Agree with Mona Lisa,
did so called "journalist" and "human right defendant" Sharipov R, did anything for uzbek people or for Uzbekistan, exept of course writing some articles about how he lost his passport or photo camera or how he cannot get money from American Embassy (and so on...many many craps) Can He say single Uzbek citizen name to which whom he protect his rights?
He is smart as# guy. Use current condition in Uzb on his own interest, make some noise here, and now got nice place in sunny California. But nabirat dividendy na gore svoego (esli on takim schitaet uzbekski narod) naroda dumayu samaya nizkost.
Faqir_fuqaro
11-10-2004, 02:06 PM
Mona Lisa,
If i were Ruslan i would answer your question just with words which you always cite behind your posts. Yes, Mahatma Gandi is absolutely right!
D
Diana _uz Siz ham Ruslanning hamtovoqlaridan birmisiz diyman.
Darrov qochib ketmiysizmi? Buling, tez qochib keting.
Faqir_fuqaro
11-10-2004, 02:23 PM
Graig Murrey about Islam Karimov.
Савол: Сиз Ўзбекистонга элчи этиб тайинланган вактингиз Президент Ислом Каримов билан учрашгансиз. Бу учрашув кандай таассурот колдирган Сизда?
Жавоб: Президент Каримов ўта аклли, ўта уддабурон ва ўта айёр одам. У одамни ўзига ишонтириш кобилиятига эга.
Унинг айтишича, Ўзбекистон жўгрофий жойлашуви жуда мураккаб, Ўзбекистоннинг душманлари жуда кўп, бир ёкдан терроризм, иккинчи тарафдан эса, гиёхванд моддалар мамлакатга хавф солади ва хаказо. Президент Каримов бу муаммолардан фукароларнинг эркинликларини чеклаш йулида бир оклов сифатида фойдаланади.
Ўз хикоясини ишонарли килиб такдим кила олиш кобилияти унинг накадар аклли эканини кўрсатади. У жуда кизик шахс ва кудратли одам.
http://www.erkinyurt.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=866
Aha, hatto Bush ham undan qo'rqadi. Buyuk Britaniya esa ishongan elchisini dumini tugib quydi Karimovning bir ogiz iltimosi bilan.
RuslanSharipov esa Graig Murrayni oldida CocaCola dan bushagan Baklashkadek gap. Kerak bulsa Uzbekistondan turib California da lahadga tiqib yuboradi.
:) :)
Toruk
11-10-2004, 05:24 PM
А вот первый зам премьера министра тоже несколко раз бал там но у него впечатления не так уж радикальные:D
Да в США классно там Президент и вся его шайка имеет право на быть избранным только на 8 лет а у нас то не пей водку, не болей и прродержись как Яссер Арафат :lol:
maxik
12-03-2004, 07:33 PM
Hey rebyata!
Izvenite no ya ne iz vashego obshestva imeyu vidu chto ya ne grajdanin UZB. ya grajdanin Kyrgyzstan no ya po natsionalnosti Uzbek. i dumayu chto imeyu parav viskazovat svoyo mnenie tak kak mi bratya, No metter In UZB or in KR still we're one blood. I tak o politike, ya toje ochen obespokoen o pilitike I.K. Vot izza etogo proklaytogo terrorisma neskolko nevinnie ludi toje bili lisheni ot svobodu. No davayte smotret na veshi s realnostyu, Optimism horosho no inogda nado bir realistom. Priznaytes chto vi tam ne mojete govorit ili pisat ploho o presidente, ili je o vashey politike (Government). Ya seychas nahojus v USA po exchange programm (I'm an exchange student as I wrote above from Kyrgyzstan but I'm Uzbek and proud to be) itak, hochu skazat chto netu svobodi slovo...i pressi...
Pust vasha ekonomika to horoshoy sostoyanii no eto ne znaschit jizn preskrasna, "Government is for the people, by the people, from the people" "Authority should be POEPLE!" ya ne govory chto unas v KR 100% svobodi no tam hotya yest nemnoshko svoboda slovi i pressi, pust ekonomika plohaya.
Esli kokie to Commentari ili Disagreements please feel free to write me on attursunov@gmail.com Oh da menya zovut Akram mojete prosto AK.
Kechirasizlar ozgina kup gapirvordim shekilli.
Faqir_fuqaro
12-03-2004, 07:36 PM
Hey rebyata!
Izvenite no ya ne iz vashego obshestva imeyu vidu chto ya ne grajdanin UZB. ya grajdanin Kyrgyzstan no ya po natsionalnosti Uzbek. i dumayu chto imeyu parav viskazovat svoyo mnenie tak kak mi bratya, No metter In UZB or in KR still we're one blood. I tak o politike, ya toje ochen obespokoen o pilitike I.K. Vot izza etogo proklaytogo terrorisma neskolko nevinnie ludi toje bili lisheni ot svobodu. No davayte smotret na veshi s realnostyu, Optimism horosho no inogda nado bir realistom. Priznaytes chto vi tam ne mojete govorit ili pisat ploho o presidente, ili je o vashey politike (Government). Ya seychas nahojus v USA po exchange programm (I'm an exchange student as I wrote above from Kyrgyzstan but I'm Uzbek and proud to be) itak, hochu skazat chto netu svobodi slovo...i pressi...
Pust vasha ekonomika to horoshoy sostoyanii no eto ne znaschit jizn preskrasna, "Government is for the people, by the people, from the people" "Authority should be POEPLE!" ya ne govory chto unas v KR 100% svobodi no tam hotya yest nemnoshko svoboda slovi i pressi, pust ekonomika plohaya.
Esli kokie to Commentari ili Disagreements please feel free to write me on attursunov@gmail.com Oh da menya zovut Akram mojete prosto AK.
Kechirasizlar ozgina kup gapirvordim shekilli.
Uzbekcha yozing, biza tushunmadik??
Azz1980
12-05-2004, 06:10 PM
bud ostorojen - segodnya oni mogut pomoch, a zavtra predat'...
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