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Toruk
11-12-2004, 05:22 PM
Good Days,
Collegues, today we are witnesses of our country is trying to integrate in the world society without collaborating neighbouring countries around, our state wants to be somehow Lichtenshtein of Central Asia, however first of all regional cooperation than globalization, What's your opinions?:cool:

Crazy Diamond
11-19-2004, 04:33 AM
There are many factors why regional integration has failed (differences in national ideology and economic models, authoritarianism and power struggle, etc). And while they exist, it will be hard to move towards an integrated regional union.

A tak bylo b zdorovo: sozdali b CAU - Central Asian Union i vladychali. :twisted: :twisted:

orxan
11-19-2004, 09:02 AM
Good Days,
Collegues, today we are witnesses of our country is trying to integrate in the world society without collaborating neighbouring countries around, our state wants to be somehow Lichtenshtein of Central Asia, however first of all regional cooperation than globalization, What's your opinions?:cool:I don't think that Uzbekistan is responsible for failing of regional integration. What we see in fact is that each our neighbours in some way has isolated itself, or at least isolated itself from Uzbekistan.

Turkmenistan - is almost closed country to any CIS member. They even kicked out Uzbek Ambassador back in december 2002, which made worse the Uzbek Turkmen relations.

Kazakhstan - is Russia best trade partner in Central Asia, and maybe even best regional ally.

Kyrgyzstan offered Russia air base "Kant", which is on the permanent basis in the region, as well as "Manas" which is 40 kilometers away from russian base.Actually, the rent of these air bases is the second supplier of the Kyrgiz state budget.

Tadjikistan always depended on Russia in terms of security. Russian troops are also on permanent basis there.

What our government tries to do is not to be much dependent on the super powers. Uzbekistan tries to balance between US and Russia and to become a third power in Central Asian region. We develop our military, built some military plants, so we can be strong enough to establish security and stability in the region, and to protect our national interests on the regional basis.

Crazy Diamond
11-19-2004, 10:24 AM
I don't think that Uzbekistan is responsible for failing of regional integration. What we see in fact is that each our neighbours in some way has isolated itself, or at least isolated itself from Uzbekistan.

Every country of the region is responsible for this, and especially Uzbekistan. It is the most populous country that lies in the centre of the region and has a good intellectual capacity to serve as a driver of the integration process. However, Uzbekistan do the opposite - sits back and demands tougher visa regulations.

Uzbekistan tried to turn away from Russia by turning to the US of A, however in the last couple of months there are clear signs of IAK opening doors to Russia.

Our government has wonderful philosophers, who feed the nation with their beautiful poetry about how “bujuk” Uzbekistan is. However, the government has really bad “money management” skills and fails to pay its bills and provide for its people.

Desperado
11-19-2004, 10:53 AM
door to integration can only be reached through the threshold of democracy

noodles
11-19-2004, 11:28 AM
Kazakhstan - is Russia best trade partner in Central Asia, and maybe even best regional ally.

Kyrgyzstan offered Russia air base "Kant", which is on the permanent basis in the region, as well as "Manas" which is 40 kilometers away from russian base.Actually, the rent of these air bases is the second supplier of the Kyrgiz state budget.

Tadjikistan always depended on Russia in terms of security. Russian troops are also on permanent basis there.

What our government tries to do is not to be much dependent on the super powers. Uzbekistan tries to balance between US and Russia and to become a third power in Central Asian region. We develop our military, built some military plants, so we can be strong enough to establish security and stability in the region, and to protect our national interests on the regional basis.

I guess the topic concerns not only Russia and it's realtions with central asia and we should talk about first of all the relations among central asian states. Uzbekistan as it's mentioned above is the main political actor for this matter and unfortunately many of those neighborhood relations failed with the result of uzbekistan, it's external policy in the region.

Oslo
11-20-2004, 03:34 PM
Everyone's comments above seem to strengthen the idea that if Regional Integration is to occur, it is quite likely to occur via Uzbekistan. Population factors alone can drive such a force; however, there are other things to consider like geography and the fact that the American military has indeed made use of Uzbek land as a staging point for it's campaign in Afghanistan.