Lack of religious education

[Hamid]

Dear all

I think this is my first thread with actual problems concerning uzbekistan.

What I think is that our country lacks religious education, and people who just studies at the school does not know anything about Allah, His Oneness, and all the messengers that were sent to humankind, tehir mission and the history of all religions.

What do you think about this issue, would you like our children in all schools learn about what the religion is, or just grow up with not knowing even what the word religion mean?

I am very concerned about this issue these days, as here in bristol there are very active works to open an islamic school and other weekend courses.

P.S. The school will take both muslim and non-muslim children to study, and fully compiles with the UK education standards and give religious education mainly islamic as we believe that islam was the last religion and should be taught accordingly.

[Vostochnaya...]

from my point of view, such schools should be opened, or such lectures should be provided in every school. but, in my opinion, this course should be like elective, not obligatory. those who feel real inspiration, will take this course.

[Webbie]

P.S. The school will take both muslim and non-muslim children to study, and fully compiles with the UK education standards and give religious education mainly islamic as we believe that islam was the last religion and should be taught accordingly.

Dear Hamid,

I dont think it's a necessity. If people want to learn about religion in depth they can study at religious schools that have been already established.

[Hamid]

How about the villages, for example the village where i come from there is only one or two people who can teach relisious basics to children or others, and mainly they are for our 'MARAKA's to recite Qur'an. The schools absolutely lack anything about religion, as almost all of te teachers does not know the basics. I had to go to see the big world to become a muslim (alhamdulillah), but my classmates (some of them i have not seen for 10 years, most recent 2 years) did not know anything. The meaning of life is just earning some money, and live your life, any gathering should be accompanied by vodka, if you don't serve vodka in your wedding party they count you out of them, no chance to be with them. It is not for all, but for most. If it is going to be like this i htink villages like mine will collapse, because economical problems influence a lot as well.
About the islamic classes i don't think it must be upto parents, you have to teach all the children when they are small, and it can be voluntary when they grow up. My point is you have to taste something before you can voluntarily accept or reject it.

HH

[Mubina]

What I think is that our country lacks religious education, and people who just studies at the school does not know anything about Allah, His Oneness, and all the messengers that were sent to humankind, tehir mission and the history of all religions.

What do you think about this issue, would you like our children in all schools learn about what the religion is, or just grow up with not knowing even what the word religion mean?

I am very concerned about this issue these days, as here in bristol there are very active works to open an islamic school and other weekend courses.

P.S. The school will take both muslim and non-muslim children to study, and fully compiles with the UK education standards and give religious education mainly islamic as we believe that islam was the last religion and should be taught accordingly.

Great idea,

but, you know, at present time it's supportless, specially in Uzbekistan,

Karimov's Regime would let this.

Personally, I think parents should be aware

about religious upbringing [ground] of their children as well as they take care

about their education at high schools.

wassalama,

Mubina

[Oslo]

I like the idea that those of us who feel the need to have religious teachings and education built into one go forth and seek that...and at the same time, those who feel that they'd prefer to keep religion secular from education have the same opportunity.

...then again maybe my idea is too utopian.

[orxan]

Dear Hamid,

I dont think it's a necessity. If people want to learn about religion in depth they can study at religious schools that have been already established.
And what about uzbek people? can you show me the already established religious school in uzbekistan?

that guy is right, there is lack of Religious education. And i am sure webgirl, you have a huge lack of islamic education.

what he is trying to say that we should study Islam. He does not force people to accept Islam. You may not beleive in God, but you should know enough about the religion.

[orxan]

How about the villages, for example the village where i come from there is only one or two people who can teach relisious basics to children or others, and mainly they are for our 'MARAKA's to recite Qur'an. The schools absolutely lack anything about religion, as almost all of te teachers does not know the basics. I had to go to see the big world to become a muslim (alhamdulillah), but my classmates (some of them i have not seen for 10 years, most recent 2 years) did not know anything. The meaning of life is just earning some money, and live your life, any gathering should be accompanied by vodka, if you don't serve vodka in your wedding party they count you out of them, no chance to be with them. It is not for all, but for most. If it is going to be like this i htink villages like mine will collapse, because economical problems influence a lot as well.
About the islamic classes i don't think it must be upto parents, you have to teach all the children when they are small, and it can be voluntary when they grow up. My point is you have to taste something before you can voluntarily accept or reject it.

HH
Hamid, i totally agree with you. We should have religious schools in Uzbekistan. But we have to be careful so we don't produce terrorists or suicide bombers out of those schools. And I think the school should be under governmental control, or even the first school should be opened by government - so they are aware of everything.
I am for learning Islam, but against the fundamental and extrimist movements.

goodluck in your beginings Hamid.

[Webbie]

And what about uzbek people? can you show me the already established religious school in uzbekistan?

that guy is right, there is lack of Religious education. And i am sure webgirl, you have a huge lack of islamic education.

what he is trying to say that we should study Islam. He does not force people to accept Islam. You may not beleive in God, but you should know enough about the religion.

Orxan,

there are religious institutions in bukhara, samarkand and some other cities.

How can you tell anything about me, if you do not even know me. I know enough about the religion and I do believe in God. Whatever my principles and actions are they should not concern you

WEbgirl

[Mamothy]

I would prefer to have it as an option available for anybody who wants to study
religion. But from my point of view (or my experience) more important subjects should be tought to our children on much higher level than it exists today, so our students would't have to go abroad in order to get good education competitive on the world's market. We definitely need to have better education in our home country.


Dear all

I think this is my first thread with actual problems concerning uzbekistan.

What I think is that our country lacks religious education, and people who just studies at the school does not know anything about Allah, His Oneness, and all the messengers that were sent to humankind, tehir mission and the history of all religions.

What do you think about this issue, would you like our children in all schools learn about what the religion is, or just grow up with not knowing even what the word religion mean?

I am very concerned about this issue these days, as here in bristol there are very active works to open an islamic school and other weekend courses.

P.S. The school will take both muslim and non-muslim children to study, and fully compiles with the UK education standards and give religious education mainly islamic as we believe that islam was the last religion and should be taught accordingly.

[CrazyDT]

Well, I personally don't think a religion should be in any academic curriculum, unless it's taught about different religions more like a history. And I very am opposed to the idea educating kids with a religion who most are naive by nature. The problem with religion is that is very subjective and not the same across all religion. Also, the religion has an ideological essence which is very scary.

sincerely,

dt

[trigger-happy]

I don't understand all this whining about lack of religious education - there's no place for that in public schools that use taxpayers' money. Specific tenets, practices and prayers should be taught in mosques, madrasas and such - public schools have no business engaging in propaganda.

As to, "would you like our children in all schools learn about what the religion is, or just grow up with not knowing even what the word religion mean?" - the definition of religion is covered in history classes - is there a need to introduce a whole school subject just for that?

Even in so-called "progressive" Islamic schools, children are taught nonsense about sanctity of suicide bombers, taught to admire their actions and aspire to be the same. I would not want kids in my community to be incited to such violence.

[Tomoshabin]

As regards tax payers i know exactly that Al-Buhary madrassah in Samarkand and Islam Univercity in Tashkent are state educational institutions and financed by state budget. But in my opinion it is normal taking into account that more than 90% of Uzbekistan people are muslims (i hope here no one will bother with the terms `ethnic muslims, real muslims` blah blah blah) and opening private religious institutions is impossible in our country.

[Oslo]

I would have to agree with trigger-happy, I would also argue that there are many nations that have developed fairly well without a large presence of religion inserted into education, I don't see why Uzbekistan can't achieve the same. But again, I think that if you want a religious education, then you should have every right to go and persue that choice.