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Fortunato
11-16-2004, 12:27 AM
Hello
Can you tell me, Should the ppl of Uzbekistan have a special permit to live and work in the Capital?

.......the mayor of Tashkent ordered city residents without official residence permits to be dismissed from their jobs and expelled from the Uzbek capital. Since the order took effect, thousands of people have been forced out of the capital, including hundreds of highly trained specialists, sources within the mayor’s office and the Tashkent police tell EurasiaNet.

So far, more than 3,700 people have been expelled under the order, according to Tashkent police and government sources. Roughly 1,300 people, including highly qualified physicians, zoologists, teachers, and specialists in other fields, are said to have lost their jobs because of the ruling. That number is expected to increase in the coming months. Though the city counts some 2.5 million registered residents, Tashkent’s actual population is believed to be upwards of 3.5 million people.

as I understood that:
....The propiska system is a holdover from the Soviet era. Residency permits were introduced by Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin as a way to control labor migration, specifically to stem the rapid influx of peasants into cities. The system has long been assailed in the West as a human rights violation. On October 7, US Ambassador Larry Napper, the head of the American delegation to the OSCE Human Dimension Implementation Meeting in Warsaw, condemned the propiska system, saying it "can . . . lead to corruption and abuse."

http://www.eurasianet.org/departments/civilsociety/articles/eav102704.shtml

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Hamid
11-16-2004, 01:48 AM
That was one of the reasons i could not get a job in tashkent

Mona Lisa
11-16-2004, 01:50 AM
Can you tell me, Should the ppl of Uzbekistan have a special permit to live and work in the Capital?
Stupidly, yeah we have such system. :(


Hamid,
it's kinda two way system you've got to have job then they give you permit at the same time they won't give the job cause you don't hold a permit :rolleyes:

Alouddin
11-17-2004, 05:03 PM
catch 22? :) we don't have that kindda system in Bishkek... =) a tak i'm threatened every time by Uzbek border guards that I have to register if I'm staying in Tashkent for more than three days or else I'll have problems (read: loss of money :lool: )

WASP
11-17-2004, 05:14 PM
I am so glad they have this system; otherwise I would have to live in the city with 20 million inhabitants. But if you are so desperate, pay the guys their money and get it. Simple as that. If you don't think it's a worthy investment, why would you want to move to Tashkent? One may assume that if moved to a bigger city with more money, there must be a potential for one to succeed. However, if you are not successful wherever you are now, there is a 0.1% chance you will become one once you move to a bigger city.

Alouddin
11-17-2004, 05:39 PM
dude they want some 300 bucks! :D

WASP
11-17-2004, 05:51 PM
Nope… it's like $500 - $1,500 nowadays. Hyperinflation. :laugh:

Alouddin
11-17-2004, 05:54 PM
Nope… it's like $500 - $1,500 nowadays. Hyperinflation. :laugh: crap! bu mahalla polismenlarini qorni yorilib o'lmaydimi buncha pulli olib? ili je buncha pul bera oladingan odammi o'zi yo'qligi uchun haliyam normalni yurishiptimi ula? :D

WASP
11-17-2004, 06:00 PM
Toshkentga kuchib kelaman degan odam, eng kamida $30,000 - "infinity" uy oladi. Unaqa pulga uy oladiganlar, $1500 shunday tashab quyadi-de. :)

elDoraDo
11-27-2004, 01:57 AM
toshkentga investment :) oh c:mon
bu pulni chuntakka soladiganlarning o:zi o:sha vodiydan bo:lgandan keyin pul yana orqaga qaytib ketish ehtimoli - ancha kotta

tegishli organ hodimlarining .... (damn, esimdan chiqib qovotti kerakli terminlar) background :rolleyes: ? idan shundan kelib chiqib...