View Full Version : Who are Uzbeks historically ???
Mavjuda
03-28-2005, 11:57 PM
Hey room,
Salom and Selams to everyone here.
I have got one interesting topic that I am more than sure you will be fascinatingly interested in discussing.
Guys, can somebody tell me why Uzbekistan and the whole Central ASia used to be called as "Turkestan" that is "Land of Turks"???
When Uzbeks came into origin? Who are they originally? And why Uzbeks are considered to be of mongolian race? :shock: And if we are the descendents of Mongols, why our language is similar to Turkish, which in a way means we have taken our language from Turkish? Further, we have so much commonalities with Turks and Turkic speaking countries... Can somebody say why is it so? :D ANd how it is like that?
Your feedbacks (not comments) are very much welcome!
Thank you, teshekkurler, rahmat!
Mavjuda
Gollandec
03-29-2005, 12:44 AM
Hey room,
Salom and Selams to everyone here.
I have got one interesting topic that I am more than sure you will be fascinatingly interested in discussing.
Guys, can somebody tell me why Uzbekistan and the whole Central ASia used to be called as "Turkestan" that is "Land of Turks"???
When Uzbeks came into origin? Who are they originally? And why Uzbeks are considered to be of mongolian race? :shock: And if we are the descendents of Mongols, why our language is similar to Turkish, which in a way means we have taken our language from Turkish? Further, we have so much commonalities with Turks and Turkic speaking countries... Can somebody say why is it so? :D ANd how it is like that?
Your feedbacks (not comments) are very much welcome!
Thank you, teshekkurler, rahmat!
Mavjuda
A kto tebe skazal shto mi prishli ot turkov a ne turki ot nas. Ya nedavno kak raz znakomogo turka prikalol kak eto tak shto pochti vse turkoyazichniye jivut v central asia a vi kakto okazalis v europe :)))))))))). Nashet togo shto mi mongoli daje neznayu navernoe potomu shto vse uzbeki vigladyat po raznomu, uzbeki variruyutsya ot evropiidna vida do mongoloidnogo(shto vstrechaetsya reje). I shto samoye interesnoye shto uzbeki edinstvenniye kto mogut vigladit kak absolutno evropeidnaya do absolutno mongoloidnoy. V toje vremya ostalniye narodnosti of Central Asia v bolshinstve svoyom vigladyat mongoloidno.
Guardian
03-29-2005, 12:48 AM
Guys, can somebody tell me why Uzbekistan and the whole Central ASia used to be called as "Turkestan" that is "Land of Turks"???
Excuse me, but whole Central Asia was never called Turkiston.
Oriyon_farr
03-29-2005, 01:33 AM
I shto samoye interesnoye shto uzbeki edinstvenniye kto mogut vigladit kak absolutno evropeidnaya do absolutno mongoloidnoy.
Потому что "узбек" - это общее и условное название разных народов и племен Узбекистана. Такое имя всем дали большевики. В самом деле чистокровные узбеки - монголоидные, а некоторые племена по крови иранские (не путать с нынешным Ираном!), которые перемешались с монголоидными племенами.
A kto tebe skazal shto mi prishli ot turkov a ne turki ot nas. Ya nedavno kak raz znakomogo turka prikalol kak eto tak shto pochti vse turkoyazichniye jivut v central asia a vi kakto okazalis v europe :)))))))))).
Podtverjdayu vashi slova... Mnogo besedovala na etu temu s turkologom, kotoriy v Germanii uchilsa - turkskie plemena naselyali pervoocheredno Srednuu Aziyu, i chast iz nih perekochevala na zapad i kavkaz, takim obrazom
tam okazalis sovremennie turki i azerbaijanci.
Oriyon_farr
03-29-2005, 05:09 AM
Podtverjdayu vashi slova... Mnogo besedovala na etu temu s turkologom, kotoriy v Germanii uchilsa - turkskie plemena naselyali pervoocheredno Srednuu Aziyu, i chast iz nih perekochevala na zapad i kavkaz, takim obrazom
tam okazalis sovremennie turki i azerbaijanci.
Тюркские племена изначально проживали в окрестностях Алтая (Ваш собеседник-тюрколог наверное это имел ввиду, так как понятие "Средняя Азия" очень широкое и означает ни только территорию нынешных центральноазиатских республик, но и часть Китая, Монголию, Алтая и т.д.). В нынешню территорию Центральной Азии (в том числе в Узбекистан) первые тюркские племена переселились начиная с 6 века н.э. Об этом писали многие известные историки, в том числе Бабаджан Гафуров.
Тюркские племена изначально проживали в окрестностях Алтая (Ваш собеседник-тюрколог наверное это имел ввиду, так как понятие "Средняя Азия" очень широкое и означает ни только территорию нынешных центральноазиатских республик, но и часть Китая, Монголию, Алтая и т.д.). В нынешню территорию Центральной Азии (в том числе в Узбекистан) первые тюркские племена переселились начиная с 6 века н.э. Об этом писали многие известные историки, в том числе Бабаджан Гафуров.
esli uglublyatsa v istoki - to vi konechno pravi. Ya imela vvidu chto rasselenie proishodilo s vostoka na zapad.
mr_TITAN
03-29-2005, 07:30 AM
В составе узбекского народа также не мало тех племен которые жили до того как тюрки пришли с Алтая...
sayram
04-05-2005, 05:07 AM
Oheri chiqmaydigan saollar......
referee
04-05-2005, 05:28 AM
The question is too big to cram into a brief answer. 'Uzbek' tribes did migrate to Central Asia from the north and north-east, and inter-mixed with the local turkic people. Central Asia has been a cocktail of different tribes and groups, but, on the whole, people of Central Asia were turkic (not turkish) in ethnicity which was mixed with persian and arab culture later as a result of greater migrations and conquests.
Turkish people are actually discendents of the Turkic people of Central Asia that migrated westward, and the similarities of Turkish with our language is due to the common roots in the ancient Chagatay (turkic) language that was prevailant as a colloquial language as opposed to Persian (and Arabic), which were languages of science, art and religion.
The 'cocktail' is truly great, so various people can and do make different conclusion on its 'ingredients' and 'mixing & shaking'.
Desperado
04-05-2005, 07:08 AM
Hey room,
Salom and Selams to everyone here.
I have got one interesting topic that I am more than sure you will be fascinatingly interested in discussing.
Guys, can somebody tell me why Uzbekistan and the whole Central ASia used to be called as "Turkestan" that is "Land of Turks"???
When Uzbeks came into origin? Who are they originally? And why Uzbeks are considered to be of mongolian race? :shock: And if we are the descendents of Mongols, why our language is similar to Turkish, which in a way means we have taken our language from Turkish? Further, we have so much commonalities with Turks and Turkic speaking countries... Can somebody say why is it so? :D ANd how it is like that?
Your feedbacks (not comments) are very much welcome!
Thank you, teshekkurler, rahmat!
Mavjuda
If you are very much into this topic, you may find the following link interesting: the origins of uzbek and tadjik people (http://www.forum.uz/showthread.php?t=18171&highlight=history+uzbek)
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