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Animator
04-28-2005, 02:06 AM
Хурматли Дустлар,
Менга жиддий ёрдам керак. Мени хамма eрдан шайтоний хаёллар чулгаб олди. Назаримда бидьат гирдобидан чиqмаяпман. Бошимда фаqат ёмон хаёллар айланяпти.
Хатто иш урнига шахвоний нарсалар хаqида уйлайман!!!
Хорижда бир оьзимни боqишга пулим зурга етади, уйланиш хаqида гапирмаса хам булади. Qушимча руза тутиб куришга харакат qилдим лекин фойда бермаяпти, Qурьан ни хар куни булмасада арабчасига уqиб турибман, Намоз ибодатни кунига 5 марта аьто етишга харакат qиляпман, лекин ха деса шу нарса. Ёлгончилик, гийбат ва шу каби иллатларга касалландим, ялqов болиб кетяпман...
Менга Маслахат ва ёрдам берсангиз,
Рахмат
ПС Илтимос постларни Инглизча ёки кирилл алифбосида ёзсангиз, Узбек лотинчасини уqиш учун соатлат керак булади.
McLeon
04-28-2005, 02:11 AM
dardimiz bir ekan oshna...
plz help us! or just give an advice.... :(
(not joking)
elDoraDo
04-28-2005, 07:34 AM
actually it is all about you
it also happened to me - and i am not sure that it wont' happen again
so - you have to leave it and all. this is what i did
smoking, drinkin - (probably it is too early for me to talk about it) - but still - i quit them. just don't do that. you may say that i was kinda light smoker or social drinke. no way. that was enough to change ur life up and down.
and about u, i guess you dont have enough
belief
respect
stimulation
this is it - try to get some spiritual encouragement. and try to read Qoran in understandable language for u. which is the most comfortable.
one morething: make a schedule. oh yes - it helps. when u have a strict schedule. and try to be busy all the time;.
so it is not that hard. and again - it still depends on only u.
p.s. don't listen to those like me 0- who tell u dont do that, do this, dont do this, do that - it never helped me. it is human nature - the more they tell u, the more u do it. cheers
Hudo quvvat bersin
Animator
04-28-2005, 11:56 AM
Thank you,
For Forum Members:
Why other threads about nonsence subjects are popular but when it is time to help only few people visit this page? :x
anatoliydaev
04-28-2005, 12:24 PM
maybe bekoz u r in their ignore lists?
AFANDI
04-28-2005, 02:37 PM
Thank you,
For Forum Members:
Why other threads about nonsence subjects are popular but when it is time to help only few people visit this page? :x
qoying manimcha hali kurishmadida bolmasa albatta maslahat berishardi .....
manga birvaqtlar shu uchun maslahat qilishgandi ....... sizni bosh vaqtlariyiz kuproqmi? hech qachon bush otirmang har doim bazi narsalar bilan mashgul boling nimaiki bolsa ..... bir iki hafta harakat qilsayiz manimcha keyin urganip ketasiz........ (kechirasiz kirill yozolmadim )
Black
04-28-2005, 11:10 PM
Хурматли Дустлар,
Менга жиддий ёрдам керак. Мени хамма eрдан шайтоний хаёллар чулгаб олди. Назаримда бидьат гирдобидан чиqмаяпман. Бошимда фаqат ёмон хаёллар айланяпти.
Хатто иш урнига шахвоний нарсалар хаqида уйлайман!!!
Хорижда бир оьзимни боqишга пулим зурга етади, уйланиш хаqида гапирмаса хам булади. Qушимча руза тутиб куришга харакат qилдим лекин фойда бермаяпти, Qурьан ни хар куни булмасада арабчасига уqиб турибман, Намоз ибодатни кунига 5 марта аьто етишга харакат qиляпман, лекин ха деса шу нарса. Ёлгончилик, гийбат ва шу каби иллатларга касалландим, ялqов болиб кетяпман...
Менга Маслахат ва ёрдам берсангиз,
Рахмат
ПС Илтимос постларни Инглизча ёки кирилл алифбосида ёзсангиз, Узбек лотинчасини уqиш учун соатлат керак булади.
1. Don't watch TV, video, and other filthy things! Don't read filthy newspapers, magazines, books!
2. Pray as much as you can! Pray from your heart, don't only "yotib tur"!
3. Always try to be together with muslim friends (muslim not by name, but in deeds)! If you don't have them, find them! And talk with them about Islam, not other blah, blah....
4. Every time you do something always keep in your mind that Allah sees what are you doing! And you'll be responsible for everything what you do, think what will be with you in the Day of Judgement!
5. Try to spend most of your free time in mosque (machit)!
6. Take care what you are eating! When you buy something from supermarket and/or shops check the ingredients! There are many informational brochures and web-sites about what can a muslim eat, which E-numbers are permissible, etc.! Eating haram is one of the reasons that muslims think about and do filthy things. So BEWARE WHAT YOU EAT!
7. Think what would Muhammad :saws: say if he saw you doing that filthy things?
Respect Brother
Animator
04-29-2005, 09:52 AM
Thank you brothers,
But please more and more advices with examples. Could anyone tell their hobbies etc. so that I can join this activities.
KhwarezmshaH
05-04-2005, 06:33 AM
Thank you brothers,
But please more and more advices with examples. Could anyone tell their hobbies etc. so that I can join this activities.
Aka dardimiz bir ekan. Menda ham ushanaqa narsalar boladi. Kwartirada qolamiz bir nechta bola bolib, hudoga shukurkim hammasi ham namozli bolalar, lekin bazan ishsiz va yolgiz qolganingda kallangga har hil fikr keladi. Shuning uchun bilmadim har doim biron nima bilan mashgullanib turish kerak. Biron sportivniy faoliyat boladimi, yoki shunga uxshash narsalar bilan. kallangga shahvoni fikrlar kelganida oilangizni esga soling, balki yordam berar.
Omadlar, Ollohni ozi hammamizga yordam bersin!!!
SmIlIk
05-04-2005, 07:57 AM
Thank you brothers,
But please more and more advices with examples. Could anyone tell their hobbies etc. so that I can join this activities.
I think Black gave you pretty decent hints. If you are trying to get a hobby why don't you just pick something you like?
Malika
05-04-2005, 08:41 AM
Assalomu Aleykum, hurmatli Animator
Allah hamma bandasini sinaydi, balkim sizni ham sinayotgandir.
Inshaallah, agar namozizni davom ettirib, chin dildan harakat qilsayiz, hammasi yaxshi bulib ketadi.
Avvalambor shunga uzizni ishontiring, agar ehhh, kundan-kun yomon bulib ketayapti deb, uzizni ruhan tushirsangiz, bu hech ham yordam bermaydi.
Shuning uchun doimo yaxshi niyatlar qilib, ushalarga intiling.
Allah hamma narsani kurguvchi va bilguvchidir.
Ishlarizga omad.
Malika
Mahmud
05-04-2005, 08:51 AM
Ertalab turib oynaga qarangda "Bugun ajoyib kun! " deng va shu kunni ajoyib qilishga harakat qiling.Ollohni o'zi sizni qo'llasiz!
Omad sizga! :D
Masanori
05-04-2005, 09:01 AM
Yuqorida juda yahshi malumot berilgan, yani harom taom inson iymoniga zarba buladi. Shu narsadan imkon qadar tiyiling. shu kunlarda man uzim juda yomon ahvolga tushib qoldim, kimga va nega ishonishim haqida kup uyladim, Alloh mavjudligiga, uni amri suzsiz bajarilishi zarur ekanligiga shubhalana bohladim (Robbimni uzi kechirsin).
Hamma narsa chuchqa gushtidan boshlandi, yani chuchqa gushti nega man qilingan degan savolga javob topa olmadim, suragan odamlarim, bazi Quronda yozilgan narsalarni inson tafakkuri anglay olmaydi, Allohning amrini boricha qabul qilish kerak deb aytishdi (ilgari chuhqa gushti hayvonning uzi nopok sharoitda hayot kechirishi sababli man qilingan deb aytilardi, lekin hozirgi kunda chuchqa juda toza sharoitlarda boqiladi, demakki uning nopok hayot kechirishi taqiqning sababi bula olmaydi )
lekin nega kur kurona qabul qilishimiz kerak deb uylay boshladim, inson tafakkuri Alloh amrini anglay olmaydi, shuning uchun bazi narsalarga shundoqligicha buysunishimiz kerak degan gaplar huddi dinimizning bazi narsalarni tushuntirib berishga noqobilligining bir kurinishi bulib tuyula boshladi.
Allohga shukur hozir iymonim salomat.
lekin mani ana shu hayollarga yetaklagan sabablar haqida kup uyladim, mani Allohga ishonchimni, iymonimni zaif qilgan narsa haqida kup hayol surdim.
sungi payt Allohning uzi kechirsin, halol a harom taomni farqlashga uncha kup etibor bermay quygan edim, yani man yashayotgan joyda, kuplab mahsulotlarga chuchqa yogi qushilar ekan, bu aniq tasdiqlangan malumot (non, bulochka, shirinliklar), lekin bazi payt ana shu mahsulotning tarkibida (yapon ierogliflarini yahshi bilmay turib) chuchqa yogini uchratmasdim va olib yer edim.
Vaholanki bu aniq tasdiqlangan malumot, hamma narsaga chuchqa yogi qushislishi, bazi mahsus yapon halol shirinlik va nonlarning hatto internetda ruyhati ham ishlab chiqilgan ekan.
Hullas iymonimni susaytirgan narsa ana shu shubhali taomlar buldi deb aniq ayta olaman, chuchqa nega man qilingan degan savolga ham endi manda javob bor, bu mahsulot inson ishonchi va iymonini susaytirar ekan, inson tafakkuri buning sababini bilishga ojiz, Alloh taqiqladimi demakki bu taqiq chin haqiqat, Alloh bilguvchiroq va Hakimdir.
Alloh amri bilan taqiqlangan narsa haqiqatda inson qalbi uchun zulm ekan, bu Allohning yana bir karomati.
Hullas dustim sizga maslahatim haromdan uzoq yuring, imkon qadar uzni haromdan saqlang, u hoh taom, hoh zino, hoh ichimlik bulsin.
Insonga berilgan eng ulug nemat - bu iymon, iymonsiz bulish qanchalar azob ekanligini uzimda sinab kurdim, Iymonni asrang dustim!
lotin shrifti uchun uzr surayman, shu menga qulayroq edi.
Masanori
05-04-2005, 09:17 AM
yana bitta gap, namozda gap kup, qaytarilish bular (mandan oldin ham yozilgan edi), lekin namozni qalbdan uqing, nega uqayotganingizni his qilib uqing. Sizga nisbatan Alloh kursatgan har bir inoyatni eslab uqing, Allohga shukur qilib uqing!
:D ;)
Pythagor
05-04-2005, 09:31 AM
Ehhh, do'stim, real xayol suring, real fikr yuriting, har bir ishni bajarishga o'zizni o'ziz ishontiring(!). Ana shunda ko'rasiz bu xayotni qanchalar go'zal ekanligini.
Faqat oildingga, oldingga va yana oldingga intiling.
Hech qachon umidsizlik haqida o'ylamang, umidsizlik bu shaytonga xosdur.
Maqsad bilan yashang!
Hammamizni Ollohni o'zi haq yo'lga boshqarsin.
Uzr, man ham krillcha yozomadim.
Actionman
05-04-2005, 11:56 AM
Salom,
ha man va man bilan turadigan bollar bilan, sizni juda yahshi tshunaman. Hammamizni boshimizdan bu narsalar utayapdi!
Lekin bilasizmi, man bu davlatga yaqinda keldim, unchalik yolgizlik va qaygu ta'sirlariga hali uchramadim, lekin shuni bilaman agar shu sodir bolsa yuqorida aytilgan gaplardan tashqari, bu erdagi yurtdoshlarimdan ruhiy 'support' topaman deb ishonman. Bu narsa (ya'ni bu davlatda yolgiz emasligim) manga katta ahamiyatga ega.
Albatta hayot - bu sinov. Sizga shu sinovlarni bardosh etishni tilab qolaman!
Omad!
aKa'd'miX_swede
05-04-2005, 12:53 PM
Salom,
ha man va man bilan turadigan bollar bilan, sizni juda yahshi tshunaman. Hammamizni boshimizdan bu narsalar utayapdi!
Lekin bilasizmi, man bu davlatga yaqinda keldim, unchalik yolgizlik va qaygu ta'sirlariga hali uchramadim, lekin shuni bilaman agar shu sodir bolsa yuqorida aytilgan gaplardan tashqari, bu erdagi yurtdoshlarimdan ruhiy 'support' topaman deb ishonman. Bu narsa (ya'ni bu davlatda yolgiz emasligim) manga katta ahamiyatga ega.
Albatta hayot - bu sinov. Sizga shu sinovlarni bardosh etishni tilab qolaman!
Omad!
Yeah, U're right!
Doim yonizda ruhiy support beradigan odamlar bo'gani yahshi albatta! u menya vot shuaqa odamlar yonimda yo'q hozir. Bitta uzimman buerda. Kak to inogda odinoko. sidish odin, ryadom nikogo net(nu est' koneshno lyudi, est' eti shvedi!) obidno daje...
Actionman
05-04-2005, 01:45 PM
Yeah, U're right!
Doim yonizda ruhiy support beradigan odamlar bo'gani yahshi albatta! u menya vot shuaqa odamlar yonimda yo'q hozir. Bitta uzimman buerda. Kak to inogda odinoko. sidish odin, ryadom nikogo net(nu est' koneshno lyudi, est' eti shvedi!) obidno daje...
Pahnet depresiey! Davay kelin Daniyaga bir aylantiraman shaharni!
aKa'd'miX_swede
05-04-2005, 01:53 PM
Pahnet depresiey! Davay kelin Daniyaga bir aylantiraman shaharni!
yeah, sometimes i think i feel depressed. But I'm making friends here. but it's not easy to get along with this cold swedes:-) anyway, I got some friends now :-)
Priglashenie uchun rahmat! Nasib qilsa boramiz. Silar ham kelasilar bizi Umeåga:-) Lija uchgani boramiz. Snowboardda uchish dreamim bor! it's really cool! a tak mani shahrim Sportivniy shahar! pochti hamma sportsmen :-)
Actionman
05-04-2005, 02:11 PM
yeah, sometimes i think i feel depressed. But I'm making friends here. but it's not easy to get along with this cold swedes:-) anyway, I got some friends now :-)
Priglashenie uchun rahmat! Nasib qilsa boramiz. Silar ham kelasilar bizi Umeåga:-) Lija uchgani boramiz. Snowboardda uchish dreamim bor! it's really cool! a tak mani shahrim Sportivniy shahar! pochti hamma sportsmen :-)
Deal!
Animator! A eshe ya dumayu etot forum toje klassnaya vesh, iz odnoi strani vrode vse a kakie raznie, da?
Maroon
05-05-2005, 08:00 AM
1. Don't watch TV, video, and other filthy things! Don't read filthy newspapers, magazines, books!
Do not use the internet! How dare you!This is worse than anything stated above! And do not even visit this forum because you will have bad influence from the BAD PEOPLE! :eyecrazy: :beat:
And do not even go outside! Do not explore the world and the people. IF you go outside close your eyes and let someone help you to get wherever you need to. KOSHAR all the way. :lol:
Maroon
05-05-2005, 11:43 AM
Кумушбиби
Nu ya a che govoru pust' ih sozdayot, prosto dobavila koe kakie veshi. :D
Chill. :cool:
Animator
06-09-2005, 05:22 PM
Thank you all, Insha Allah I will become better with the help of Almighty Allah.
Wishing everybody the best,
Animator
Gareeb
06-11-2005, 12:06 PM
Blackdan Alloh rozi bo'lsin. Qani edi shu nasihatlarga amal qila ololsak bunday muammolar bo'lmasdi.
glavnoe terpenie i sila voli
Ya mogu i Ya sdelayu!!!!!!!!
silbermond
06-12-2005, 07:08 AM
Okay when you will follow Blacks instructions you will be NOT filthy. But that way something thta i dont like . If you wanna live so religious then go to Saudi where no problem with praying and with other conditions.
But real exam is that you make in Western World where there is a night life, girlfriends atmosphere and others. I think when you pass this exam then your prize will be much much more than you passed it in Saudi. What you need is IRODA(donna what it is in English)!
Good luck
Black
06-13-2005, 05:25 AM
Do not use the internet! How dare you!This is worse than anything stated above! And do not even visit this forum because you will have bad influence from the BAD PEOPLE! :eyecrazy: :beat:
And do not even go outside! Do not explore the world and the people. IF you go outside close your eyes and let someone help you to get wherever you need to. KOSHAR all the way. :lol:
Well, You got me wrong Mrs.Reaper .
Before making sarcasm on my post first you had to read why did Animator open this thread. He particularly said
Хатто иш урнига шахвоний нарсалар хаqида уйлайман!!!
You either have problems of understanding Uzbek or you just did not read it.
When you read my reply carefully, between the lines you can read 1. Don't watch TV, video, and other filthy things! Don't read filthy newspapers, magazines, books! Let me explain you, as if I am explaining to the baby (no offence), what I meant. As far as Animator said that he thinks very much about "шахвоний нарсалар" (what is it in English, "sex related things" or anything else) and asked help (advice) I said that he is better
1) Not to watch filthy TV shows (because we all know that wetren tv has many immoral filthy shows which morally degrades people). People of understand could understand that when I told "don't watch TV" I meant not to watch such filthy things. Of course, some people, who has no problems of becoming morally degraded person can not understand why I said this.
2) Not to watch movies and shows similiar to above mentioned ones. The conclusion is clear. I said it that he could stay away from such filthy thoughts, free his mind from filthy thought, curb his sexual desires.
3) And I mentioned other stuff (filthy books, magazines like playboy, and etc) which could provoke his sexual desires. Every normal person who sees moral degradation as negative phenomenon could understand me.
May be you did not understand me because I had not explained everything in detail. I thought as long as question is there it is better just to post short and necessary points.
No offence intended but I say that first read all thread carefully, try to understand the posts, if you don't understand then ask and then you can make conclusions and make sarcasm. Otherwise your posts looks stupid.
I repeat I have no intention to insult or offend you.
Peace.
Black
06-13-2005, 05:46 AM
Okay when you will follow Blacks instructions you will be NOT filthy. But that way something thta i dont like . If you wanna live so religious then go to Saudi where no problem with praying and with other conditions.
silbermond my reply to Mrs.Reaper relates to you as well.
You don't need to go to Saudia to follow the path of Allah. Or if you don't want to follow the right path your trip to Saudia can not help you in anyway.
I knew guys who followed Islam very strict even in the West. They don't look for excuses not to follow it.
And this topic has nothing to do about what can be in Saudia. A guy who thought that he had problems asked for advice. And some gave it. That's it.
But real exam is that you make in Western World where there is a night life, girlfriends atmosphere and others. I think when you pass this exam then your prize will be much much more than you passed it in Saudi. What you need is IRODA(donna what it is in English)!
Good luck
Yes that's what I meant, if we do our best to follow our religion even in the west, not searching excuses for our immoral degradation, then we can pass the exam inshAllah. That's why I was advising to follow some rules (whether in Mecca or New York).
Animator
06-17-2005, 12:01 PM
Thank you all a lot for your help. It works, at least I feel like it works.
Alhamdulillah!!! I hope to keep continuing in this practise.
Grateful,
Animator
Ulugbek_99
06-18-2005, 12:10 AM
Dear Animator,
As you have read in the posts, what you have gone through doesn't only happens to you. I know it doesn't feel quite right, I even once came to despise myself for the thoughts I had in my mind. I saw myself as a disguting person. I was in despair thinking how I could possibly let myself have those thoughts and couldn't help it. Alhamdulillah it was not too long till i found a way. I heard that (Allah forgive me if I am wrong), Shaytoni layin tries to visit our minds 70 times a day and tries to mislead. However, Allah visits our souls and minds 140 times a day, twice as much than Satan tries to. I would say that you should not feel deperate in your situation, instead, just remember that there is Allah to ask a help from. Some of us might sometimes think that our thoughts are too disgusting and immoral to be asked for help from Allah. We simply try to get rid of those thoughts ourselves. But it is better we admit to Allah about what is going on in our minds and ask for help. Allah has already known what we are thinking about. Whenever you have that thoughts again, just say "Avzibillahiminash Shaytoni rajiym, Bismillahi Rahmonir Rahiym". Try to focus in the concept and meanings of these words with all the strength you have, with all of your heart. Say them again and again, don't have anything else in your mind, but these words above. And repeat them continuously until you free your mind. I assure you, it won't take any long until Allah clears your mind of those "thoughts". We can't just leave outselves on our own. No one is strong enough to withstand the temptations of Satan. That's why we should pray and ask Allah to help us to get rid of specifically from those "thoughts" and any other thoughts undesirable, in general, we must ask Him to protect from Satan's temptations. I don't know how much helpful i have been, you surely know more than me about Islam, since you pray five times.
Animator
06-21-2005, 01:12 AM
Thanks A lot Ulughbek 99,
My knowledge is very limited and please calm down everyone of us can improve oneself if we struggle, InshaAllah!
Masanori
07-26-2005, 05:29 AM
Help me, please, just read the first post of this thread n help me!
Animator
07-26-2005, 06:32 AM
Help me, please, just read the first post of this thread n help me!
Read please the following email message sent by my friend to the same question.
About the weakeness of Iman, which sometimes happened for everyone, I want to mention first that this is a normal phenomena and happened due to many reasons, one of the most important reason is yourself.....I mean you want to be good/or not to be good, I understand the general atmosphere in your case which not helping of course, but you have try again and again, no way, the price of paradise deserves more and great efforts. One important helping factor is the brotherhood or at least good friends, the company of good people always help and correct my mistakes and remind me with every good thing and improve my Iman, so if you can get a company of good people, do it, and avoid totally bad guys. Finally, if everything against you, make sincere Doaa to Allah to help and support you (Doaa before Fajer is replied), then go to an individual plan for improving your Iman. I write to you some points that may help if u want to be:
1- Keep praying five times per day, even if you collect two or three times togther in home (only under certain circumstances).
2- keep reading Qur'an as possible as u can with interpretation (the meaning is more important).
3- Keep saying Zekr in any free time (e.g. in bus, walking to work, waiting
someone...etc.).
4- keep making Doaa anytime and anywhere and under any conditions becuase Allah watching you everywhere and if u ask him with good intention that u want to be good, he surely will help you and save you from any evil.
5-Avoid bad places that gathering bad and mixed people to protect yourself and your eyes from doing bad.
6- Try to read more about improving Iman. This depends on the avaibale sources of information, do your best and Allah knows your intention.
Actually, many points can be written, but just try those previous one and remember that
- Who tastes the sweet of Iman, will never leave and miss it again.
- Who wants to be good, will be good.
- Good, strong and sincere intention is basic in all deeds.
- Angels write everything we do, so be careful.
- Paradise is waiting for everone doing good with high Iman.
- Punishment in Day of Judgment can not be imgained if we lost our Iman.
- Ramadan is coming soon and it is a big chance to imporve our Iman.
Finally, I wish from my deep hear that Allah help and prosper you and give you strong and good Iman....Ameeeen.
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