halal food - your urgent support

[Masanori]

To: Muslims worldwide

In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful

Petition to Internationally recognise the Halal Trademark that guarantees a product which complies with the Islamic Sacred Law (the Shariah)


To Proceed:

Asalamu Alaykum. (Peace be onto you In the Name of Allah)

The Holy Quran (2:168)
"O you people! Eat of what is on earth, lawful and good..."


Halal is an Arabic word meaning lawful or permitted, for Muslims. Eating Halal is obligatory on every Muslim. The opposite of Halal is Haram, which means prohibited. The terms Halal and Haram will be used strictly to describe food products, meat products, cosmetics, personal care products, food ingredients, and food contact materials. Another term to remember is called Mashbooh, which means doubtful or questionable.



There are currently over two million Muslims in Great Britain, who should all be buying Halal products

Alhumdulillah (All praise be to Allah), Islam is presently the fastest growing religion with over 1.3 billion Muslims worldwide, (approximately 20% of the world's population). We should be able to buy Halal products with ease.

Throughout the UK, USA, Europe, Asia and the rest off the world there are numerous Muslim organisations writing to thousands of manufacturers, trying to ascertain whether or not certain products are Halal.

Up until now there has not been anything that the consumer can easily recognise to distinguish Halal products.

Thousands of Mosques across every country have tried to compile their own lists of products. This has resulted in a dilemma for the confused Muslim consumer as Haram products have been bought by mistake.

The time has now come for national and international governments to recognise the Halal Trademark that can then be recognised by manufacturers and consumers alike.

Halal is a vitally essential requirement of our faith and the Halal Trademark Symbol has been designed as a simple and effective way of enabling us, the consumers, to instantly recognise which products are Halal, such as Foods, Drinks, Catering products, Household goods, Cosmetics, Toiletries, Perfumery, Pharmaceuticals, Meat and Poultry.

As Muslims we are a large consumer power and should demand from manufacturers the Halal Symbol, which is our only trusted guarantee.

If the Vegetarians can benefit from the Vegetarian Symbol, then why can't Muslims insist on a Halal Symbol? All Vegetarian products are not necessarily Halal; they may be animal free, but sometimes not alcohol free. Therefore, this is no surety that foods suitable for Vegetarian or Vegan consumption are also suitable for Muslims!

This further increases the importance for having a Symbol with which a Muslim consumer can identify, and feel secure of its authenticity and of it’s being strictly Halal.

In order for manufacturers to display the Halal Symbol, they will have to abide by very strict guidelines, laid down by Ulemas (Scholars), Muftis (Jurists) and Food Experts. However, this will not mean that the consumer has to pay more for Halal goods.

We need your “Urgent Support” to ensure that this most fundamental part of our faith is upheld. Together we can make it work and we will succeed Insha-Allah! (With the Will of Allah)


Help us by signing the petition. Which will then be taken forward to officially recognise the Halal Trademark within each individual country.

Please help this aim with your duuas and your active participation, by signing this petition.

May Allah reward you all for your efforts and time!

Wasalaam

link for the sign:

http://www.petitiononline.com/Hallal/petition.html

[Masanori]

kupchiligimiz chet elda bulib bu muammoga duch kelganmiz, so i think we have to support this idea!

[Black]

Well, is the petition still going? I saw it some 2-3 years ago, if not 4 years ago.
Anyways, sign it guys. Most of you live in the west and know how difficult sometimes it is to find halal food.

[Masanori]

Well, is the petition still going? I saw it some 2-3 years ago, if not 4 years ago.
Anyways, sign it guys. Most of you live in the west and know how difficult sometimes it is to find halal food.

but i got a message about this petition just yeserday, and decided to post here, so i think it is still going on!
support it guys!

[PainKiller]

A men Bif bosa uzhi yiman. Bilmadim kanakakilib uni suygan(agar suygan bosa, bomasam, shunde horom O'lgan Buqani go'shimi, aniq bilmiman)
A tak, Bo'magan ideya. Chunki bolla bor, it oyog'i etib bormagan, Qattagi Rednek Johnla yashidigon zhoylaga Omad kulib boqib, Amerikaga kelib tushib qogan. Ular vegeteriyanic bomediku. Borib, O'zin kechir Hudoim deb, Bitta Hmburgerni olib evoradi.
Bu yana meni IMHOM, bolla-qizla, Hozir Kopirdan olib, Kopirga solib, tosh bo'ron qilib, Etti pushtimmi qarg'ab tashamela. A tak, Halol esela, biz faqat hursandmiz.

[Masanori]

A men Bif bosa uzhi yiman. Bilmadim kanakakilib uni suygan(agar suygan bosa, bomasam, shunde horom O'lgan Buqani go'shimi, aniq bilmiman)
A tak, Bo'magan ideya. Chunki bolla bor, it oyog'i etib bormagan, Qattagi Rednek Johnla yashidigon zhoylaga Omad kulib boqib, Amerikaga kelib tushib qogan. Ular vegeteriyanic bomediku. Borib, O'zin kechir Hudoim deb, Bitta Hmburgerni olib evoradi.
Bu yana meni IMHOM, bolla-qizla, Hozir Kopirdan olib, Kopirga solib, tosh bo'ron qilib, Etti pushtimmi qarg'ab tashamela. A tak, Halol esela, biz faqat hursandmiz.

Alloh buyurgan amalni qilmaslik, qaytargan amalidan qaytmaslik uchun million hil sabab topish mumkin. Bir uzbekdan eshitgan gapim - "man chuchqa yemiman, lekin boshqa gusht busa farqi yuq, qanaqa suyilgan busa ham, boshqa iloj yuq, musofirchilikda bulivuradi"mish. Eeee odam, qatta yozgan musofirchilikda harom narsa yegin deb a????
Allohga ishonch insondan yuksak iroda talab qiladi. Faqat kuchli irodaga ega bulganlar muslim bulish bahtiga musharraf buladilar, aynan shundaylarga, yani bu dunyo uz nafsini, irodasini sinovdan utqazganlarga jannat vada qilinmish!

[4twelve]

There is a HALAL Certificate or Label which is approved by Ulema of Muslim Community has been using countries like Malaysia,Indonesia,Sigapore Thailand and Hong Kong since a very very long time and most of the European or American Companies even Coco Cola or Pepsi get these Certificate to sell their goods to Muslim Comminity i thougth same certification also used by Europen Countries... isnt it?

[DaeAnd]

Halol Taom yeyish hamma musulmonga nasib qilsin. Agar uni topa olmasangizchi? Mana bunisi muammo. G'arbdagina emas Sharqda yashayotgan musofirlar ham shu muammoga duchor bulishgan. Zero musofir bulmaguncha, Musulmon bulmas.
Rostini aytsam, Uzb daligimda rus kolbasalarini juda ham yoqtirib tanovvul qilardim. Bizda deyarli kupchilik shunday. Mana sekin-asta farqiga yetib borayapmiz. Eshitishimcha Yaponiyada gusht unchalik kup iste'mol qilishmas ekan, baliq biz uchun yetadi deyishadi yapon dustlarim. Lekin shunda ham bu threadni kutarib chiqqaniz uchun Masanori tashakkur. Koreada agar bilsangiz, yeganlari chuchqa gushti xolos. Shurvasida ham bor, boshqasida ham. Avvaliga ancha qiynaldim ovqatiga, uzbeklar yuqligida yeb ham oldim usha narsalardan;).(bu xolat hamma uzbeklarda bulgan edi) Borgan sari, fikrim uzgarib bordi. Uzingni muslimman deysanmi, bajarishga ihlos qil hamma shartlarini !!! Kofirlarning(Musulmon bulmaganliklari uchun ularni shunday atashga majbur buldim) taomini yeb, oxiri dilingni, ishonchingni ham topshirib quyma ularga ey muslim!!! Tanangni pok tut hech bulmasa!

Yaxshiyamki Uzbek restoranlari bor ekan. Bahramand bulib turamiz oyiga bir marta bulsa ham:P Halol Taom yeyish hamma musulmonga nasib etsin!!!

[PainKiller]

I eat pork. I love "Kolbasa", "spam" "Sausage" and other good stuff. But, unfortunately it is not halal. I do not think that God is bad enough to burn my ass in the Hell only Because I loved Ham and Bacon. I think there are a lot of other people who "eat-halal", but there is a special place reserved and their itenerarys got approved for Five star Hell Hotels.
I am a good person. that's what matters for me.

[Einstein]

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[maradona]

Agar oppoq nonni ham, harom pul sotib olib yesangiz bu ham harom luqma hisoblanadi...

Qani spirtli ichimliklar ichmaydiganlar bormi?
It gushti yedim deb maqtanib yurganlarni ham kurganman! Kabob zur bularkan deb ham quyadi.Yana pivo bilan.

Men uzim ham halol yeb ichib yurubman deb ayta olmayman,kamida kuniga bitta pivo ichman, kup ichganimniku...

Hammasini bilamizu,ammo...

[Masanori]

Halol Taom yeyish hamma musulmonga nasib qilsin. Agar uni topa olmasangizchi? Mana bunisi muammo. G'arbdagina emas Sharqda yashayotgan musofirlar ham shu muammoga duchor bulishgan. Zero musofir bulmaguncha, Musulmon bulmas.
Rostini aytsam, Uzb daligimda rus kolbasalarini juda ham yoqtirib tanovvul qilardim. Bizda deyarli kupchilik shunday. Mana sekin-asta farqiga yetib borayapmiz. Eshitishimcha Yaponiyada gusht unchalik kup iste'mol qilishmas ekan, baliq biz uchun yetadi deyishadi yapon dustlarim. Lekin shunda ham bu threadni kutarib chiqqaniz uchun Masanori tashakkur. Koreada agar bilsangiz, yeganlari chuchqa gushti xolos. Shurvasida ham bor, boshqasida ham. Avvaliga ancha qiynaldim ovqatiga, uzbeklar yuqligida yeb ham oldim usha narsalardan;).(bu xolat hamma uzbeklarda bulgan edi) Borgan sari, fikrim uzgarib bordi. Uzingni muslimman deysanmi, bajarishga ihlos qil hamma shartlarini !!! Kofirlarning(Musulmon bulmaganliklari uchun ularni shunday atashga majbur buldim) taomini yeb, oxiri dilingni, ishonchingni ham topshirib quyma ularga ey muslim!!! Tanangni pok tut hech bulmasa!

Yaxshiyamki Uzbek restoranlari bor ekan. Bahramand bulib turamiz oyiga bir marta bulsa ham:P Halol Taom yeyish hamma musulmonga nasib etsin!!!

yaponlar chuchqa gushti buyicha karisladan uzoq ketmagan, nonga ham maza berish uchun chuchqa yogi qushishadi. hullas chuchqa qushilmagan narsani topish juda qiyin.
boshida juda qiynaldim, faqat baliq va boshqa sea foodlani yeb yurdim, yahshiyam halol shop bor ekan, ancha jonga oro kirdi.
Bu ham Allohning bir sinovi...
Uzi Madadkor bulsin!

[Masanori]

Hammasini bilamizu,ammo...

ammo iroda kerak, iymon kerak!

[PainKiller]

Клео, к чему всё это притворство? Ты же писал, что ты не мусульманин, а христианин: http://www.forum.uz/showthread.php?p=208463#post208463
Если это действительно правда, то свинина для тебя, т.с. халол. Так что Bon Appétit, кушай на здоровье и колбаску, и сосиски.

P.S. Объясни нам, пожалуйста, что заставило тебя стать христианином? Насколько я поняла, ты узбек. Клео, без тени сарказма, мне просто интересно узнать, что толкнуло тебя на этот шаг.
Ya tebe dayu ponyat' chto ya vsyu zhizn' el svininu. Dazhe togda kogda byl musul'maninom.
PS. A kto vi takie chto-bi ya obyasnlyal vam pochemu ya stal tem kem stal?

[Masanori]

Ya tebe dayu ponyat' chto ya vsyu zhizn' el svininu. Dazhe togda kogda byl musul'maninom.
PS. A kto vi takie chto-bi ya obyasnlyal vam pochemu ya stal tem kem stal?

vot ti govorish chto ti hristianin.
ok! no soblyudayesh li ti vse kanoni hristianstva? ili znayesh li ti ih voobshe ?
mne kajetsya u tya net religii, i etu bez religioznost ti nazivayesh hristianstvom.

[PainKiller]

vot ti govorish chto ti hristianin.
ok! no soblyudayesh li ti vse kanoni hristianstva? ili znayesh li ti ih voobshe ?
mne kajetsya u tya net religii, i etu bez religioznost ti nazivayesh hristianstvom.
A ti i tvoi "brat'ya i syostri" soblyudayut kanonov Islama? Nu mozhet ne edyat svininu, no pyut, nyuhayut, i tp. Esli ty soblyudaesh' vse i vsya, idi v gallery i posmotri na devochek. Ya v otlichie nekotorih tvoih Tovarishey po religii v cerkov' hozhu po voskresen'yam, molyus'. Kanonov hristianstva ya tut ne budu opisivat', dostatochno prochest' noviy zavet. A chto eto tebya tak volnuet-moya Religiya?

[Masanori]

A ti i tvoi "brat'ya i syostri" soblyudayut kanonov Islama? Nu mozhet ne edyat svininu, no pyut, nyuhayut, i tp. Esli ty soblyudaesh' vse i vsya, idi v gallery i posmotri na devochek. Ya v otlichie nekotorih tvoih Tovarishey po religii v cerkov' hozhu po voskresen'yam, molyus'. Kanonov hristianstva ya tut ne budu opisivat', dostatochno prochest' noviy zavet. A chto eto tebya tak volnuet-moya Religiya?

ya za drugih ne otvechayu, sam starayus kak mogu, soblyudayu religiozniye pravila, ok! tak chto ne boltay ne znaya!
i yeshe prochest noviy zavet eto odno, no soblyudat!
da i kstati, yesli ti chital noviy zavet, ne ujeli ti tam ne nashel kuchu protivorechiy? ne ujeli ti ne chital kak tam chetko i yasno govoritsya chto posle hrista pridet drugoy prorok? ti hotya bi sopostavlyal dve religii (islam i hristianstvo) prejde chem sdelat vibor, chital li ti koran, prejde chem otkazatsya ot islama?
Po moyemu vse u tebya v slepuyu, prosto po tvoyemu mojet bit ne modno bit musulmaninom! vot i vse!
a vera tut ne prichem!

[Royal]

mani eshitganim va tushunganim boyicha:

"Agarda halol soyilgan hayvonni goshti topilmasa ozini ozi ochlik azobini berish ham katta gunoh! iloji yoqlikdan bolsa yesa unda oziga haloldir. Ilojisi bola turib va haromligini (yani chochqa goshti mahsulotligini bila turib) yesa unda harom."

Har bir shaharda Musulmon millatlaridan dokonlar, juda koplarida MEAT MARKETlari bilan.
Halol gosht topolmadik deyish bilan atrofda bunday dokonlar yoq deganimas.
Hammanikini oziga gunohiyui-savobi, iloji boricha harakat qilinsa boldi hammasini uddasidan chiqish mumkin, hammasi ozilani qolilada.

[PainKiller]

ya za drugih ne otvechayu, sam starayus kak mogu, soblyudayu religiozniye pravila, ok! tak chto ne boltay ne znaya!
i yeshe prochest noviy zavet eto odno, no soblyudat!
da i kstati, yesli ti chital noviy zavet, ne ujeli ti tam ne nashel kuchu protivorechiy? ne ujeli ti ne chital kak tam chetko i yasno govoritsya chto posle hrista pridet drugoy prorok? ti hotya bi sopostavlyal dve religii (islam i hristianstvo) prejde chem sdelat vibor, chital li ti koran, prejde chem otkazatsya ot islama?
Po moyemu vse u tebya v slepuyu, prosto po tvoyemu mojet bit ne modno bit musulmaninom! vot i vse!
a vera tut ne prichem!
Vot ya za eto tebya uvazhayu-Nikogda ne govori za drugih. Dumayu ne znaya menya, i kak Ya stal Hristianinom i stal na pravil'niy put, tebe ne polagaet'sya govorit' chto ya Ne imeyu Religii, Prosto izza "ne modnosti" islama stala Hristianinom i tp. Ya bil Musul'maninom, po izvestnim tol'ko mne prichinam stal hristianinom. V Biblii ni slova net o tom chto pridyot noviy Prorok, to kak bibliyu tolkuyut musul'mane mne ne iteresno. V Vethom zavete govorilos' o Mesaye, kem Iiisus i bil. Ladno, Ya Hristianin i etim gorzhus'. Upasi Hristos ot stanovleniya Musul'maninom.

[Royal]

...prochest' noviy zavet.

Mojesh obyasnit pochemu "novie zavet" ???

[PainKiller]

Mojesh obyasnit pochemu "novie zavet" ???
Royal, google nima bilasanmi?:)

[Royal]

Royal, google nima bilasanmi?:)
Kleo

Yasab beriymi, Yoki ozin tushundinmi ?
Man savol soradim sandan, nimani bilishimnimas ?

[eagle]

Agar oppoq nonni ham, harom pul sotib olib yesangiz bu ham harom luqma hisoblanadi...

Qani spirtli ichimliklar ichmaydiganlar bormi?
It gushti yedim deb maqtanib yurganlarni ham kurganman! Kabob zur bularkan deb ham quyadi.Yana pivo bilan.

Men uzim ham halol yeb ichib yurubman deb ayta olmayman,kamida kuniga bitta pivo ichman, kup ichganimniku...

Hammasini bilamizu,ammo...

Birodar, hammani nomidan bunaqa gapirmang, Haq yuliga qaytganlar kup, undan kura siz ham qayting Haq yuliga !

[Royal]

Dazhe togda kogda byl musul'maninom.
Eto oznachayet, kak ya ponyal chto ti bil ranshe musulmaninom i seychas gavorish chto ti prinyal hrityanstva ?

ne tak li ?
ili ya ne tak ponyal mojesh obyasnit ?
ili eshyo budem tebya iskat v google ? ;)

[Royal]

Saaaalmas, ancha kalta oylangan javob bu:
Agar oppoq nonni ham, harom pul sotib olib yesangiz bu ham harom luqma hisoblanadi......
Notogri gap!
Qani spirtli ichimliklar ichmaydiganlar bormi? ...
Agar bittasi ichsa bu hamma ichadi degan gapmas!
It gushti yedim deb maqtanib yurganlarni ham kurganman! Kabob zur bularkan deb ham quyadi.Yana pivo bilan....
Ok judayam yahshi bopti, bizayam eshitganmiza, lekin yugirib ketmapmizayu osha joyga it kabobini yeyishga a?
Men uzim ham halol yeb ichib yurubman deb ayta olmayman,kamida kuniga bitta pivo ichman, kup ichganimniku......
Alloh ajrimi bersin. Vaqti keganda tushuniladi, hali vaqti kemagan korinadi...
Hammasini bilamizu,ammo...
quyidagi postda javobini berishipti, shunga qoshimcha:
Yana kotta ishtonam kerak!!!

[Royal]

...I do not think that God is bad enough to burn my ass in the Hell...
Hmmm....
Once. I think this tread most be removed to FLEYM.
Second. "Kleo" Your "ass" allready burned by humans, so shut up and stop messing in Religion Board.

Olloh ozi kechirsin!

[-Resident-]

V Biblii ni slova net o tom chto pridyot noviy Prorok,
YA chital chto bibliyu lyudi izmenili poetomu so storoni boga lyudyam bila poslano Quroni Karim i obeshano chto ne budet izmenyon i eto poslednyaya svyashennaya kniga poslano lyudyam!
I vot uje 14 vekov ne izmenilsa i ne bilo poslano novaya!

[Royal]

.... Ladno, Ya Hristianin i etim gorzhus'. Upasi Hristos ot stanovleniya Musul'maninom.
Olloh ozi kechirsinu, man ettim sanga palakat!

Padaringa ming la'anat sandoq qizni tugdirganiga.

It is bad or good for You!?

[Masanori]

Olloh ozi kechirsinu, man ettim sanga palakat!

Padaringa ming la'anat sandoq qizni tugdirganiga.

It is bad or good for You!?

kleo kim uzi?
qiz bolami u hali?
mobodo anu nima edi, inkognatomi nima edi? ishqilib usha emasmi?

[Pyro]

Kleo you know what I dont really care who you are Just answer one question
are you serious about what you posted here?:?

[Alouddin]

KLeo,

one more profane language use in this board by you will result in your exclusion from not only the board but the whole forum in no time. For the moment you are only warned, altho you are to be banned right away - see below.

"b) The usage of Avatars with "naked", "pornographic", "erotic", "woman or man in an underwear", "showing private parts or awrah", "showing a sign(s) of bad language" etc content would result in a BAN." (http://www.forum.uz/showthread.php?t=19597)

Pls do refrain from using such a language when you are posting smth here - Din va Madaniyat bo'limi - or else pls refrain from coming here at all.


peace upon those who deserve it.

p/s BTW, for the information of Muslims - AFAIK, kosher meat is halal for Muslims, since Allah swt has made the correctly-slaughtered (!!!) animals' meat halal for Muslims if the latter is done so by ahlul-kitab. yet Allah swt knows best!

I eat pork. I love "Kolbasa", "spam" "Sausage" and other good stuff. But, unfortunately it is not halal. I do not think that God is bad enough to burn my ass in the Hell only Because I loved Ham and Bacon. I think there are a lot of other people who "eat-halal", but there is a special place reserved and their itenerarys got approved for Five star Hell Hotels.
I am a good person. that's what matters for me.

[Masanori]

Клео, ты утверждаешь, что в Библии ничего не говориться о приходе нового Пророка. Позволь не согласиться. Открой, пожалуйста, "Второзаконие" (главу 18, стих 18). Читаем: "Я воздвигну им Пророка из среды братьев их, такого как ты, и вложу слова Мои в уста Его, и Он будет говорить им все, что Я повелю Ему".

Клео, кого имеет в виду это пророчество? Полагаю, что ты ответишь: "Иисуса!" Клео, а почему Иисуса, ведь его имя там не упоминается? Возможно ты считаешь, что самыми важными словами этого пророчества являются "такого как ты" или "ПОДОБНОГО ТЕБЕ", то есть подобного Моисею, а Иисус подобен Моисею. Тогда позволь спросить: "Чем Иисус подобен Моисею?" Ты скажешь: "Во-первых, Моисей был ЕВРЕЕМ, а Иисус тоже был ЕВРЕЕМ; во-вторых, Моисей был ПРОРОКОМ, и Иисус тоже был ПРОРОКОМ. Следовательно, Иисус подобен Моисею".

Клео, можешь ли ты указать какие-либо другие черты сходства между Моисеем и Иисусом? Потому что если только по этим двум показателям определяются претенденты на исполнение этого пророчества Второзакония, 18:18, то в таком случае эти критерии могут соответствовать любому из следовавших за Моисеем персонажей Библии: Соломону, Исайе, Иезекиилю, Даниилу, Иосии, Иоилю, Малахии, Иоанну Крестителю и т. д. Ведь все они тоже были евреями и к тому же пророками. Почему бы не примерить это пророчество к любому из них, а не только к Иисусу?

Видишь ли, я считаю, что Иисус в наименьшей степени подобен Моисею, и если я ошибаюсь, я бы хотела, чтобы ты меня поправил.

my respect Kumushbibi !
kogda to ya sam izuchal bibliyu a imenno noviy zavet, i nashel tam neskolko prorochestv o prihode proroka posle Iisusa!
Daje sam Iisus govoril ob etom, govoril chto on (budushiy prorok) rasskajet vsyu pravdu o nyem, ob Iisuse.
Tak ono i yest Muhammad (s.a.v) rasskazal vsyu pravdu ob Iisuse (to chto on bil prorokom, a ne sinom Tvorca).

Assalamu alaykum!

[Aus]

A men Bif bosa uzhi yiman. Bilmadim kanakakilib uni suygan(agar suygan bosa, bomasam, shunde horom O'lgan Buqani go'shimi, aniq bilmiman)
A tak, Bo'magan ideya. Chunki bolla bor, it oyog'i etib bormagan, Qattagi Rednek Johnla yashidigon zhoylaga Omad kulib boqib, Amerikaga kelib tushib qogan. Ular vegeteriyanic bomediku. Borib, O'zin kechir Hudoim deb, Bitta Hmburgerni olib evoradi.
Bu yana meni IMHOM, bolla-qizla, Hozir Kopirdan olib, Kopirga solib, tosh bo'ron qilib, Etti pushtimmi qarg'ab tashamela. A tak, Halol esela, biz faqat hursandmiz.

chet elda ham ilogisini qisa buladi
man EU ga kelib faqat tovu yevomman, turi yevorganla bor lekin amn uladan nime deb suraganimd hamasi bu erd amol quy gushti qimmatligidan deyishgan lhamasi musulmon
bor musulmonla (islamni praktika qiladiganla,yani nomozhonla desek ham buladi) ula ilojisini topadi vegetarianc bup qomasa ham tovu ili qush gushtini esa ham kam bumidi bu ham olloh tomonidan berilgan bir sinov, deb uylayman

[PainKiller]

Vsem: Esli hotite chto-bi ya otvetil na vash vopros, ya na nego otvechu. No esli Zadayut'sya voprosi ne dlya togo chto-bi uznat' pobol'she Pro moyu Religiyu, a dlya togo chto-bi dokazat' chto ona Oshibochna, ya prekrashayu svoyo uchastie na dannom topike.
PS. Kumushbibi, Pol'zuysya Istochnikami Hristianskimi, Chitay kommenti k nim Hristianskie. I budet tebe vsyo ponyatno. No esli net, Cherez lichku dam tebe znat'.
Ah, da. Vse mi greshni, Po Hristianski ya otvetil ili net eto subektivnoe takoe virazhenie. Ya kogda bil Musul'maninom viskazalsya-bi sovsem po drugomu, poslal-bi vozmozhno. A buduchi Hristianinom, tol'ko otkazalsya otvetit', Chuvstvuetsya progress? :lol:
"Ne sudi da ne sudim budesh'"

[Legend]

Vsem: Esli hotite chto-bi ya otvetil na vash vopros, ya na nego otvechu. No esli Zadayut'sya voprosi ne dlya togo chto-bi uznat' pobol'she Pro moyu Religiyu, a dlya togo chto-bi dokazat' chto ona Oshibochna, ya prekrashayu svoyo uchastie na dannom topike.
PS. Kumushbibi, Pol'zuysya Istochnikami Hristianskimi, Chitay kommenti k nim Hristianskie. I budet tebe vsyo ponyatno. No esli net, Cherez lichku dam tebe znat'.
Ah, da. Vse mi greshni, Po Hristianski ya otvetil ili net eto subektivnoe takoe virazhenie. Ya kogda bil Musul'maninom viskazalsya-bi sovsem po drugomu, poslal-bi vozmozhno. A buduchi Hristianinom, tol'ko otkazalsya otvetit', Chuvstvuetsya progress? :lol:
"Ne sudi da ne sudim budesh'" Tupo........

[Royal]

Vsem: Esli hotite chto-bi ya otvetil na vash vopros, ya na nego otvechu. No esli Zadayut'sya voprosi ne dlya togo chto-bi uznat' pobol'she Pro moyu Religiyu, a dlya togo chto-bi dokazat' chto ona Oshibochna, ya prekrashayu svoyo uchastie na dannom topike.
PS. Kumushbibi, Pol'zuysya Istochnikami Hristianskimi, Chitay kommenti k nim Hristianskie. I budet tebe vsyo ponyatno. No esli net, Cherez lichku dam tebe znat'.
Ah, da. Vse mi greshni, Po Hristianski ya otvetil ili net eto subektivnoe takoe virazhenie. Ya kogda bil Musul'maninom viskazalsya-bi sovsem po drugomu, poslal-bi vozmozhno. A buduchi Hristianinom, tol'ko otkazalsya otvetit', Chuvstvuetsya progress? :lol:
"Ne sudi da ne sudim budesh'"
Missionershoi hoechesh bit ?
Ti znayesh chto ya mogu skazat po etomu povodu ! dva!
Mogut dat BAN za eto ya seravno skaju yesli ne uberyosh svoi posti ok!

[Alouddin]

can we all go back to the topic, plz? :jazak:Missionershoi hoechesh bit ?
Ti znayesh chto ya mogu skazat po etomu povodu ! dva!
Mogut dat BAN za eto ya seravno skaju yesli ne uberyosh svoi posti ok!

[PainKiller]

Missionershoi hoechesh bit ?
Ti znayesh chto ya mogu skazat po etomu povodu ! dva!
Mogut dat BAN za eto ya seravno skaju yesli ne uberyosh svoi posti ok!
What about ur phone # out here? :D

[Royal]

What about ur phone # out here? :D
Osha kuchala yegan joyinga borib tirish!

[Royal]

mana bu site da boricha Masjidlar va Musulmonlani dokonlari boyicha informatsiya borakan:

www.islamicfinder.org agar birorta bir savollari bolsa hech bomaganda masjidga telefon qilinsa manimcha osha yerdan toliq javob olsa boladi.

[Masanori]

odamlar, birinchi postdagi petition ga qul quyish esdan chiqmasin!

[Black]

I could not see any name from Uzb. or any Uzbek name, saw a guy from Tajikistan, from Kyrgyzistan, Russia.

Some years ago I read an article about Uzbek people who converted into Cristianity, they explained why they did it. A girl fron provincial town explianed that "they (those who converted her) celebrate my birthday with the cakes (with candles on it)" . Another woman said that her husband used to drink and beat her, that's why she accepted Cristianity, and another guy said that his brother used drink and when he wanted to hang himself his brother beat him again, then he accpeted Cristianity. Of course, I can not remember all details (it was some 3-4 years ago) , but it was all clear that none of them (there were some 8-10 stories of conversion) converted on religous ground, only by material basis.

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[Black]

Халяльные продукты оказались в центре внимания на Всемирной выставке в Париже

8 июня, Париж, - Стремительно развивающаяся индустрия халяльных продуктов питания оказалась в центре внимания не трехдневной Всемирной выставке, которая открылась вчера во французской столице. Производители представили большой и разнообразный ассортимент продуктов, позволенных мусульманам к употреблению – от шоколада до пиццы.

http://islamua.net/islam_ua/news/newscol.shtml?2394

[Gareeb]

Britaniyada halol go'sh topish uzbekistanga qaraganda osonroq. Agar Uzbekistonda halolmi deb surasang , wahhobiymasmisan uka deganlarni eshitganman. Yoki bir so'kib beradi nima meni kofir deyapsanmi deb.

[Royal]

Britaniyada halol go'sh topish uzbekistanga qaraganda osonroq. Agar Uzbekistonda halolmi deb surasang , wahhobiymasmisan uka deganlarni eshitganman. Yoki bir so'kib beradi nima meni kofir deyapsanmi deb.
Jahllarini chiqishlarini sababiyam borde, chunki ozlari musulmon bola turip hololmas gosht sotmasliklarini etishadi shu bilan.
yana : Agar birortasi holol deb, holomas gosht sotsa uni gunohi osha sotgan odamga ketadi!!!