Work Permission in the USA for Uzbek Students

[FARA_VA]

Hi Folks,
It is not a bad idea to make some money while earning your degree. I decided to start this thread based on many questions by our fellows. Some guys have social security card without stamp (Authorised to work only with INS permission), but actually they don't have a permission. Later they are scared to apply for a permit, because they think that INS may figure out that they've worked. If lucky, some students get a job for cash, but it is impossible in rural areas.
So, leave your experiences on getting work permit or working for cash, and share them with folks in uzb. who want to come to the US but concerned about making some money for living.

[abcd]

Yes that question concerns me too. Can INS pull out your work history when you apply for OPT or they can only find out that you have worked by locating the places where you work?

[FARA_VA]

Yes that question concerns me too. Can INS pull out your work history when you apply for OPT or they can only find out that you have worked by locating the places where you work?

If you are lucky, they don't. Friend of mine got his permit even though he has made more than 10K in two years......you never know

[orxan]

Fara, don't be afraid to apply for the work permit.

logics: you are asking for the work authorization beacuse you do not want to work off the books, you want to pay taxes. even if they check your SSN, find some violations , you can still argue that you wanted to work on the books and pay taxes. they won't send anybody home beause of this. just do it

[abcd]

What you mean by lucky? Don't they apply the same procedure for everybody or they just check randomly?

[-Resident-]

Ok guys I will tell you one story wich happend last year two my friends had a stamp in their SSN "valid for work only with dhs authorization " but they were worked in a restaurant one of them quit one month before than another one and next mont INS came to that restaurant and caught him and cancelled his visa! But they did not cancel another guy`s visa! And they came not to check that place actually they just wanted get information about one mexican guy who did some crime, but when they were looking documents of employees they found about that my friend!

[abcd]

I guess the question that I am asking is little different. As soon as I finish my study I will apply for OPT. But I have to apply 3-5 months in advance, so hell knows what they do during this time. So if I work and give my SSN can they find out that I used to work and refuse OPT?

[-Resident-]

I guess the question that I am asking is little different. As soon as I finish my study I will apply for OPT. But I have to apply 3-5 months in advance, so hell knows what they do during this time. So if I work and give my SSN can they find out that I used to work and refuse OPT?
If you work with your SSN of cource They can find out about that because all your records will be there! And did you ever fill tax aplication?

[abcd]

twice. But I heard that INS and and the taxation office are independent from each other and do not share information.

[-Resident-]

twice. But I heard that INS and and the taxation office are independent from each other and do not share information.
I think they do share information but maybe not ofically who knows...

[forex]

anyone who applies for OPT should get.You should have no problems with getting it unless you apply for it late.The fact that you worked throughout your student years will not affect your OPT decision.
Actually an F1 student can apply for OPT after completing two semesters,in other words after spending a year in the US.But it will count towards your 12 months,so let's say if you work 4 months during your summer vacation,you will only be able to work 8 more months upon completion of your studies.
I'm a little bit confused when people talk about applying for work authorization.You have to have some kind of reason to apply for it,whether it be an OPT or some kind of other employment authorization document.You can't just go to INS and say that you need work permit to work in the US.
The best scenario would be to work off the book and not use your social security as it might create problems if you apply for H-1b visa.

[abcd]

forex dealer actually you can apply for work authorization after 9 months. It is called economic hardship and you have to prove that you don't have money to finance your education. So far everyone who applied got it in our university. I need 3 more months to be eligible so I am waiting it.

[abcd]

Well as I said there are several guys who obtained this permision whom I personally know. They even have two scholarships and don't pay anything to their education. And it doesn't matter in what conditions you live because nobody come and check it. The only thing they need is a letter which explains why over time you lost your financial support.
And what was your previous post about that you hurried to delete. I couldn't write down the phone number maybe you should post it once again.

[forex]

that's what I said,two semesters.But if I were you I would have applied for it because like I said it is going to count towards your 12 month OPT.Well unless you are getting a job at a decent company and they require you have a work permit.Other than that you will cut down the time you are allowed to stay here.It will be better to use your social security number and try to get a job somewhere to support yourself,and upon completion of your school apply for OPT.This way chances will be higher that you get an H1b after your OPT.
As for the economic hardship,like heave mentioned,not everybody gets approved.You have to be able to prove that you are in a weak financial situation,and the government,indeed,doesn't care about it.
The best thing is to do a co-op program,if your school has it.You can take a semester off and work for a company and that won't count towards your 12 month OPT.But not all the schools have that program.

[FARA_VA]

What you mean by lucky? Don't they apply the same procedure for everybody or they just check randomly?

Yeah, it is up to luck too. I know one guy who worked only 10 hours a week for 2 months, but was kicked out of the US, at the same time one Ghanian buddy worked 3 years, paid taxes on time, got tax refunds, later applied for permit and got it. You can make a conclusion.

[FARA_VA]

:lol: Fara, don't be afraid to apply for the work permit.

logics: you are asking for the work authorization beacuse you do not want to work off the books, you want to pay taxes. even if they check your SSN, find some violations , you can still argue that you wanted to work on the books and pay taxes. they won't send anybody home beause of this. just do it

lol, you thought I asked this Q for myself. I am allright as far as permission.

[Creather]

alotta places askin 4 ssn#, u can give a phony #, 'cuz most ov'em not askin 4 original paper, so. b like a hustler.

that's how uzbek students solvin' this problem in Philly.

[forex]

You can't give a fake social security because employer's check with the social security office and request a report copy.

[FARA_VA]

You can't give a fake social security because employer's check with the social security office and request a report copy.

There are many employers which just keep your ssn in their records, in case someone comes n' checks. They don get a report from DHS.

[Martingale]

Hi folks,

This question concerns me as well but having gone thorugh the posts I wanted to clearify couple of things. As I want to work off campus, (so does everyone:D ) should I apply for OPT at all? Because I heard that the period you work during your school years will be cut off from the whole period OPT would be given after the graduation. For example, if you work 3 months, then you are left with 9(or 6 not sure) months for OPT.
2) If this is true, what other options should I consider? I heard that IRS and USCIS do not share information with each other, to what extent this information is ture?
3) What does INS stand for? Thanks for your replies!
Hi Folks,
It is not a bad idea to make some money while earning your degree. I decided to start this thread based on many questions by our fellows. Some guys have social security card without stamp (Authorised to work only with INS permission), but actually they don't have a permission.

[Martingale]

People(who are in states),

what if you have "valid for work with DHS authorization on your SSN" does it mean a person is allowed to work without OPT or any other kind of authorizations? thanks for your reply!

[Prince]

One of my friends , ( From Ukraine) got his Work Permit just couple week ago.
But i need letter from admission + show that u have financial hardship and blah blah...
It took 2 months to get his permission....
good luck
P.S: Why not work for ca$h?

[Martingale]

One of my friends , ( From Ukraine) got his Work Permit just couple week ago.
But i need letter from admission + show that u have financial hardship and blah blah...
It took 2 months to get his permission....
good luck
P.S: Why not work for ca$h?

Prince,

I am aware of how it works. but I wanted to know if Im eligible to work using the SSN. does IRS actually share information with USCIS?

p.s. In Athens area where I live I don't think there are works for cash except the ones "only for mexicans", I guess.

[Prince]

Laziz , hullas kalom bunday qilasiz.....
IRS does!!!
P.S: US IRS is like our SNB so dont play with them :)
P.SS: Try to find some muslim bros , they might help you
Peace ,

[FARA_VA]

folks are working without the permission, and later are getting the OPT, permission, whatever.....

[forex]

They will catch you and put you in jail,don't work:)

[barakalla]

Prince,

I am aware of how it works. but I wanted to know if Im eligible to work using the SSN. does IRS actually share information with USCIS?


They might not even share, but in future when you decide to change your status they will definetely look for that info.
While applying for my papers at USCIS i had to show them that i haven't work here for the last 3 years - I went to IRS office and got a report from them stating that my SSN has "0" income for all my time being in US.

Good luck

PS. What does OPT stand for :rolleyes: ?

[Martingale]

folks are working without the permission, and later are getting the OPT, permission, whatever.....

well...I heard the same stories, but still wasn't sure... :?

They will catch you and put you in jail,don't work:)
Valyutchik, tinchlikmi?:D

Barakalla,

OPT stands for Optional Practice Training. I also got to know it recently.
BTW, what is your status now?

[barakalla]

Barakalla,

OPT stands for Optional Practice Training. I also got to know it recently.
BTW, what is your status now?

case pending...... waiting for their decision :x

[coolio]

INS doesn't pick on you all the time. Depends where you work though...

[Royal]

folks are working without the permission,
Breaking the law here allready.....
and later are getting the OPT, permission, whatever.....
when ???

Why not do things on time and work, live and sleep well!!