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stanford
06-12-2005, 09:16 PM
Was there any deceive turning point in your life, something that made you religious? What happened?
Gareeb
06-13-2005, 07:32 AM
Was there any deceive turning point in your life, something that made you religious? What happened?
Tushunmadim.
Royal
06-13-2005, 11:02 AM
Was there any deceive turning point in your life, something that made you religious? What happened?
stanford
soravottiki:
Nima uchun dinga berildila?
Bunga hayotizda nima asosie sabab boldi ?
1 ogiz javob ham javob, 20 varaq ham javob.
lekin bundan stanford qoniqarmikin degan savol yana botta
ttotemo
06-13-2005, 10:16 PM
I personally thought I would loose any chance of getting the girl that I loved at the time. She was very religious and I ADORED her. I thought if I didnt become religious I would lose her foreva. I started practicing Islam, then realized that you either have to be radical in Islam or forget it. I chose first. 6 years later changed my mind as I found that many unanswered questions still existed in my mind....
Gareeb
06-13-2005, 10:23 PM
I personally thought I would loose any chance of getting the girl that I loved at the time. She was very religious and I ADORED her. I thought if I didnt become religious I would lose her foreva. I started practicing Islam, then realized that you either have to be radical in Islam or forget it. I chose first. 6 years later changed my mind as I found that many unanswered questions still existed in my mind....
Yahshisi o'sha kallangni kesib tashlash kerak edi, shunda qutularding o'sha alahsirashlardan.
Black
06-13-2005, 10:38 PM
Was there any deceive turning point in your life, something that made you religious? What happened?
I would put the question the other way: What stops you becoming relegious?
lavelaso
06-13-2005, 10:54 PM
edited for/because of profane language.
in short: lavelaso was not happy with Black trying to intrude into his personal life.
Observer
Black
06-13-2005, 10:58 PM
I personally thought I would loose any chance of getting the girl that I loved at the time. She was very religious and I ADORED her. I thought if I didnt become religious I would lose her foreva. I started practicing Islam, then realized that you either have to be radical in Islam or forget it. I chose first. 6 years later changed my mind as I found that many unanswered questions still existed in my mind....
So you had nevere become religious, because you "practiced" Islam just to keep you girlfriend. (Btw what did you do, just prayed 5 times a day?). You prayed not for God but for your girlfriend. I hope you don't keep any more relationship with that religious girl. I know such people who become "religious" just to marry somebody. As russians say "ðåçóëüòàò íà ëèöî". One day you see him on the mosque, the next day you see him coming from pub.
About being radical in Islam. There is no such understanding "radical" or "moderate" in Islam. You either practice Islam either seek excuses for not doing it. That's it, very simply. God does not ask anybody what he can't do. God says(meanning) :"We don't burden anybody".
The reason for having some unanswered questions is that you belief was wrong from beginning. You started practicing Islam not in belief "There is one God whom I have to pray" but in belief "There is one girl whom I should not lose". It is like you went to Antarktida to see African savannas. You will never find it unless you don't choose correct starting point for your search (if you are indeed searching something, otherwise you will never find anything, just waste of time).
Peace
Black
06-13-2005, 11:03 PM
edited for/because of profane language.
in short: lavelaso was not happy with Black trying to intrude into his personal life.
Observer
Here we can see the difference between religious and non religious person. I said nothing wrong, just asked question and what I got....?
I am happy that I am not such moron. Alhamdulillah!
Alouddin
06-14-2005, 01:37 AM
the decisive point that you are referring to, standford, in my case is my very birth :D
Maroon
06-14-2005, 03:06 AM
Observer: Black is being rude to lavelaso as well. Be objective. Give a warning. Ooops...I forgot...ya don't give warnings to brothers,right? :D :twisted:
I would put the question the other way: What stops you becoming relegious?
I guess for this question you could open a new thread. ;)
Was there any deceive turning point in your life, something that made you religious? What happened?
Religious in what way? By just having faith in God or practicing a religion?
SayFuLLoH
06-14-2005, 03:08 AM
Hudo Holasa,jenu sebe hochu normal'nuyu naidti,tipa:chtob 5 raz v den molilas',vse musul'manskie obryadi delala i t.p.I chtob menya potenula za soboy,mne tak kajetca,chto sam ya, eto ne smogu sdelat':(
Alouddin
06-14-2005, 05:22 AM
Maroon, as lavelaso might have (?) told you, he received his warning for the profane language he used, which I have not noticed being employed by "my brother", as you put it, Black. I have such a feeling that you haven't had a chance to see what lavelaso said here, so could you pls be cautious when giving advises? And he received his warning NOT because he was rude towards "my brother", but towards everyone here. Ask lavelaso whether he was addressing everyone, or not? In his deleted post he WAS talking to everyone. So could you pls be cautious when giving advises?
Objective in sticking to rules, or in following emotions?
sry 4 off-top
p/s I haven't received any complaint from lavelaso neither thru PM nor email... he might not have seen this yet himself too... just like you haven't (?) seen his post... or he understands the reason for the warning
peace, sis
lavelaso
06-14-2005, 06:30 AM
Maroon, as lavelaso might have (?) told you, he received his warning for the profane language he used, which I have not noticed being employed by "my brother", as you put it, Black. I have such a feeling that you haven't had a chance to see what lavelaso said here, so could you pls be cautious when giving advises? And he received his warning NOT because he was rude towards "my brother", but towards everyone here. Ask lavelaso whether he was addressing everyone, or not? In his deleted post he WAS talking to everyone. So could you pls be cautious when giving advises?
Objective in sticking to rules, or in following emotions?
sry 4 off-top
p/s I haven't received any complaint from lavelaso neither thru PM nor email... he might not have seen this yet himself too... just like you haven't (?) seen his post... or he understands the reason for the warning
peace, sis
i dont really care, 3 points mean nothing. I really think i got this warning cause of my critisizm in address such people, and its true. I dont care if my emotions overhelmed my control in this case , i dont care. So far im telling what i feel.
Forum is rottening inside, i care. I wont complain for unreal warnings. And
smile at shadow conspiracies.
Royal
06-14-2005, 07:15 AM
...telling what i feel....
Not yet!.......
lavelaso
06-14-2005, 07:28 AM
Not yet!.......
what do u mean not yet ? if i say so, so it is so.
Maroon
06-14-2005, 08:47 AM
Observer, Black called him "moron" which is supposed to be "profane language".
Hey, just expressing my thoughts. I am not trying to be provocative. :D
Peace and Happy Birthday! :D
lavelaso
06-14-2005, 09:49 AM
Maroon, as lavelaso might have (?) told you, he received his warning for the profane language he used, which I have not noticed being employed by "my brother", as you put it, Black. I have such a feeling that you haven't had a chance to see what lavelaso said here, so could you pls be cautious when giving advises? And he received his warning NOT because he was rude towards "my brother", but towards everyone here. Ask lavelaso whether he was addressing everyone, or not? In his deleted post he WAS talking to everyone. So could you pls be cautious when giving advises?
Objective in sticking to rules, or in following emotions?
sry 4 off-top
p/s I haven't received any complaint from lavelaso neither thru PM nor email... he might not have seen this yet himself too... just like you haven't (?) seen his post... or he understands the reason for the warning
peace, sis
So why dont u wanna leave what i wrote, to let other users see, how can a user get a warning.
People dont even know what i wrote. How can they judge ur actions ? How can they judge mine ? Who is right and who is wrong ?
fratboyxxx
06-14-2005, 11:23 AM
get some fcuking life ppl
chicagoan
06-14-2005, 11:36 AM
Was there any deceive turning point in your life, something that made you religious? What happened?
Stan,
you of course, meant, DECISIVE, i.e. CRUCIAL, turning point.
DECEIVE is completely wrong word in your question. I recommend you and everyone www.dictionary.com (http://www.dictionary.com) when not sure in spelling of a word, because SPELL CHECK won't notice such mistakes.
Me,
I think, when I doubted existence of ALLAH, HE either himself or through Angels, made a contact...came to me...I felt the divine...
mr
Mogul
06-14-2005, 11:38 AM
I think, when I doubted existence of ALLAH, HE either himself or through Angels, made a contact...came to me...I felt the divine...
mr
Next Messiah?
chicagoan
06-14-2005, 11:54 AM
Next Messiah?
Misunderstanding.
It is hard to explain.
I don't claim sainthood, but saying that ALLAH showed a miracle for me that shook off all my doubts. I said, FELT, not spoken, seen, etc.
OK. I was asleep. In the middle of night, woke up. Felt presence of something...Very bright. Could not dare to open my eyes, tongue would not turn, my body froze in fear, and was quivering...and I was told (through some waves directly to my brain) "Do you need any more proof? Open your eyes." But I did not dare. It was enough for me believe in the Unseen.
Qanaqa Messiah?
That's all.
mr
PainKiller
06-14-2005, 12:19 PM
the decisive point that you are referring to, standford, in my case is my very birth :D
Come on, Observer. Language?
I got warning Only because I mentioned that I am a christian and ex muslim. Where is that prohibited language I used? :D
Royal
06-14-2005, 01:15 PM
Come on, Observer. Language?
I got warning Only because I mentioned that I am a christian and ex muslim. Where is that prohibited language I used? :D
If You know that for Your words : spousably stoned not warned!
PainKiller
06-14-2005, 01:24 PM
If You know that for Your words : spousably stoned not warned!
Royal, stop being my dad, all right? U r starting to piss me off:D
Maroon
06-14-2005, 01:45 PM
If You know that for Your words : spousably stoned not warned!
Oh no no!Don't spoil the FUN! We will stone only after Kleo converts to Buddhism, how's that sound? :lol: :rolleyes:
lavelaso
06-14-2005, 01:55 PM
If You know that for Your words : spousably stoned not warned!
i dont even understand what u wrote. spousably ? spousably stoned ? whats that suppose to mean ?
Alouddin
06-15-2005, 08:52 PM
mojet hvatit uzhe zanimatsya rebyachestvom, a?
HarunYahya
06-19-2005, 06:34 AM
According to research by David B. Larson, of the American National Health Research Center, and his team, comparisons of devout and non-religious Americans have given very surprising results. For instance, religious people suffer 60% less heart disease than those with little or no religious belief, the suicide rate among them is 100% lower, they suffer far lower levels of high blood pressure, and this ratio is 7:1 among smokers.
It was reported in one study published in the International Journal of Psychiatry in Medicine, an important scientific source in the world of medicine, that people who describe themselves as having no religious beliefs become ill more frequently and have shorter life spans. According to the results of the research, those with no beliefs are twice as likely to suffer stomach-intestine diseases than believers, and their mortality rate from respiratory diseases is 66% times higher than that of believers.
Secular psychologists tend to refer to similar figures as “psychological effects.” This means that belief raises peoples’ spirits, and this contributes to health. This explanation may indeed be reasonable, but a more striking conclusion emerges when the subject is examined. Belief in Allah is much stronger than any other psychological influence. The wide-ranging research into the connection between religious belief and physical health carried out by Dr. Herbert Benson of the Harvard Medical Faculty has produced surprising conclusions in this area. Despite not being a believer himself, Dr. Benson has concluded that worship and belief in Allah have a more positive effect on human health than that observed in anything else. Benson states that he has concluded that no belief provides as much mental peace as belief in Allah.
What is the reason for this connection between belief and the human soul and body? The conclusion reached by the secular researcher Benson is, in his own words, that the human body and mind are regulated to believe in Allah.
This fact, which the world of medicine has slowly begun to appreciate, is a secret revealed in the Qur’an in these words: “… Only in the remembrance of Allah can the heart find peace.” (Qur’an, 13:28) The reason why those who believe in Allah, who pray to and trust in Him, are psychologically and physically healthier is that they behave in accordance with the purpose of their creation. Philosophies and systems which contradict human creation always lead to pain and unhappiness.
Modern medicine is now tending towards the realization of this truth. As Patrick Glynn put it: “Scientific research in psychology over the past twenty-five years has demonstrated that,… religious belief is one of the most consistent correlates of overall mental health and happiness.”
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