OVIR visa: question

[elle]

Hi all!

Is anybody knows the official policy re: Entering and exiting Uzbekistan? I mean the OVIR visa which is verry important in order to travel out of Country . And how about coming back, is it a problem to come back to Uzbekistan with expired OVIR visa, if the person has been working abroad? or some other legal purpose of residing in another country?
Please advise if somebody knows in which official documents this kind of law exist? I've found everything about travelling out, but nothing reagarding coming back:-(
The thing is that once I've witnessed in the airport that one person was stopped at the customs for this reason? thanx in advance

[musoFR]

elle,

OVIR visa nujna tol'ka dlya viyezda (exit) iz Resp Uzb. Dlya vyezda (enter) on ne igrayet nikakuyu rol'.

To est' esli naprimer kogda vi viezzjali iz uzb skajem 5-7 let nazad pri OVIR visa valid, to segodnya vi mojete zakonno zayehat v uzb bez nikakih problem.

Obratite vnimaniye, tam napisano:

Dunyoning barcha mamlakatlariga CHIQISH UCHUN RUHSAT berilgan

[elle]

Spasibo za otvet!

Ya to znayu chto tol'ko dlya viezda. Da i znayu our officials in the airport. Hoew they react when see passport full of visas from all over the world (I travel a lot), and just wanted to have what i can reffer to if they say i broke the law or something like that. Although when i was checking in Tashkent through friends, people in home affairs said:::"No' she should of come to receive a new visa when old one was expired??? Bred kakoy to?

[lucky14]

Hi Elle,

Earlier this year I checked on this issue with the Uzb consulate in NY, they told me that entering back to Uzb with the expired OVIR visa shouldn't be a problem. They said that in case they even could give you some kind of spravka before leaving for Uzb if you were too worried. So...i guess you shouldn't worry about having expired OVIR visa, for exiting Uzb though, definitely you need the valid one.
hope this helps..

[elle]

Hi lucky14,

Thanx for responce:) I see, so probably I worry too much:D ?
But anyway you see... Why are they warning you you re: In case they can give you a spravka, why do you need to orginize some documents to enter the country if officially there is no policies re expired visa and you are not breaking the law? So radiculous. :rolleyes:


Hi Elle,

Earlier this year I checked on this issue with the Uzb consulate in NY, they told me that entering back to Uzb with the expired OVIR visa shouldn't be a problem. They said that in case they even could give you some kind of spravka before leaving for Uzb if you were too worried. So...i guess you shouldn't worry about having expired OVIR visa, for exiting Uzb though, definitely you need the valid one.
hope this helps..

[Crazy Diamond]

Hi lucky14,

Thanx for responce:) I see, so probably I worry too much:D ?
But anyway you see... Why are they warning you you re: In case they can give you a spravka, why do you need to orginize some documents to enter the country if officially there is no policies re expired visa and you are not breaking the law? So radiculous. :rolleyes:

Hi elle,

By law, once your OVIR visa expires, you should return to Uzbekistan to extend it. You, again by law, should not be able to travel to foreign countries with expired OVIR viza. Most contries, however, do not care for it, expect in the CIS countries. Once your OVIR visa expires, your passport becomes an internal passport (for travel within Uzbekistan and CIS countries where you don't need an entry visa).

If you are returning to Uzbekistan with expired visa, the guys at the passport control, depending on their mood, might or might not take any action. Usually they do not, unless you provoke them. If you see that it is not going well, burst into team and with cries: "Okaaajon, kuyvoring, iltimoooos, boshqa unaqa qimimaaaan!", try to muddle your way out. :lol:

Go via VIP exit - will be less hassle.

Goodluck,

CD

[referee]

Hi elle,

By law, once your OVIR visa expires, you should return to Uzbekistan to extend it. You, again by law, should not be able to travel to foreign countries with expired OVIR viza. Most contries, however, do not care for it, expect in the CIS countries. Once your OVIR visa expires, your passport becomes an internal passport (for travel within Uzbekistan and CIS countries where you don't need an entry visa).

If you are returning to Uzbekistan with expired visa, the guys at the passport control, depending on their mood, might or might not take any action. Usually they do not, unless you provoke them. If you see that it is not going well, burst into team and with cries: "Okaaajon, kuyvoring, iltimoooos, boshqa unaqa qimimaaaan!", try to muddle your way out. :lol:

Go via VIP exit - will be less hassle.

Goodluck,

CD

CD,

From my talks to OVIR people, the visa for exit purposes only, so if you exited the country with valid visa which expired later during your travel you are not expected to return to Uzb to change it. And noone in the passport control has right to hassle people on that ground, and if they do they just rely on misinformed people. Basically, in the unlikely event if anyone has problems with this in border control coming back, you can tell officers to back off. I know many people who returned to Uzb-n with expired exit visa who had no probs at all...

[Crazy Diamond]

CD,

From my talks to OVIR people, the visa for exit purposes only, so if you exited the country with valid visa which expired later during your travel you are not expected to return to Uzb to change it. And noone in the passport control has right to hassle people on that ground, and if they do they just rely on misinformed people. Basically, in the unlikely event if anyone has problems with this in border control coming back, you can tell officers to back off. I know many people who returned to Uzb-n with expired exit visa who had no probs at all...

Referee: try exiting any of the CIS countries to travel abroad with expired OVIR visa - no chance. And Passport Control guys have every right to ask you why you were abroad without a valid permission (zagran-passport, basically). I am talking from personal experience - studied it in detail recently.

[referee]

Referee: try exiting any of the CIS countries to travel abroad with expired OVIR visa - no chance. And Passport Control guys have every right to ask you why you were abroad without a valid permission (zagran-passport, basically). I am talking from personal experience - studied it in detail recently.

CIS is an exception - and they would not allow you out from say Russia if you are arriving from CIS country. But if you traveled to Russia from UK or US and going back to Europe or elsewhere then you should not have any problems, at least from my personal experience. Well-informed source in Ovir confirmed to me some time ago that passport control people should not be hassling people on expiration of the visa as long as it was valid when you exited Uzb-n. I guess some officers try creative ways to extort money from people any ways they can - many people pay bribes for things that are not illegal in Uzb-n...

Basically, OVIR visa is for internal Uzbek regulations, which sometimes applies in CIS, and does not concern foreign authorities. Non-CIS border authorities can't care less about this visa.
The only thing that surprises foreign border controls is the long-validity of Uzbek passports - 25 years:shock:

[Crazy Diamond]

CIS is an exception - and they would not allow you out from say Russia if you are arriving from CIS country. But if you traveled to Russia from UK or US and going back to Europe or elsewhere then you should not have any problems, at least from my personal experience. Well-informed source in Ovir confirmed to me some time ago that passport control people should not be hassling people on expiration of the visa as long as it was valid when you exited Uzb-n.

Nope, wrong. Russian passport control will not let you out of the country anywhere but to other CIS countries without a valid OVIR visa under any curcumstances. If you have good pals at the Uzbek Embassy in Moscow, you can get them to extend your OVIR visa. I know only of one case when this actually happened. In the rest of the cases you are politely asked to go back to Uzb to obtain a new OVIR visa.

Well-informed source? :D In Uzbekistan (like in many other places) the right hand doesn't know what the left hand does; one can't really rely on any well-informed sources any more. :D :D

[referee]

Nope, wrong. Russian passport control will not let you out of the country anywhere but to other CIS countries without a valid OVIR visa under any curcumstances. If you have good pals at the Uzbek Embassy in Moscow, you can get them to extend your OVIR visa. I know only of one case when this actually happened. In the rest of the cases you are politely asked to go back to Uzb to obtain a new OVIR visa.

Well-informed source? :D In Uzbekistan (like in many other places) the right hand doesn't know what the left hand does; one can't really rely on any well-informed sources any more. :D :D

well, i might have been an exception to the case then;) I will heed your advice and follow it up, in case such regulations are indeed implemented in some airports of CIS...

Right hand might not the left hand, but any hand comes handy in Uzb-n when in trouble. The hand I used worked for me.

ciao

[Crazy Diamond]

well, i might have been an exception to the case then;) I will heed your advice and follow it up, in case such regulations are indeed implemented in some airports of CIS..

Ась?! Не поняла что именно ты спрашиваешь тут, майт. :rolleyes:

Right hand might not the left hand, but any hand comes handy in Uzb-n when in trouble. The hand I used worked for me.

=> elle, как я и сказала - если что - строй невинные глазки и плачь назрыд! :D

[gulamus]

Ась?! Не поняла что именно ты спрашиваешь тут, майт. :rolleyes:



=> elle, как я и сказала - если что - строй невинные глазки и плачь назрыд! :D
Naskolko ya znayu: ty poluchil Ovir visa i vyehal.. da ktoto tut skazal chto eto dla vyezda, no ya toje rozgovarival s konsulatom i tam kokretno skazali chto budesh plotit shtraf za to chto ne prodlil Ovir visa..
Tak chto esli ty vyehal, i tolko potom vozvroshyaeshsya to ty skajy chto budesh plotit shtraf v Ovire i vse, I mean rabotnikam aeroporta i vse oni tebya... poymut i budut znat chto ty znaesh pravila Ovira..
I esli ty edish domoy, to seryozno delay eto tam , pochemu? Ved ty mojesh prodlit svoyu visu Ovir cherez Uzbek Konsulat v toy strone gde nahodishsa, no eto dlitsya bolshe chem 3 mesyatsev.. No toje zavisit kak bystro prihodit dip pochta. Esli bystro to doljnobyt po pravilam Konsulata 2 mesyatsa!
vot eto pravila Ovir visy.

huligano

[Mamothy]

Уже даже интересно. Трактовок можно напридумывать сколько угодно.
Всем этим таможенникам может все что угодно взбрести в голову
лишь бы денег побольше стрясти... Что-то типа, "Тяни со стройки каждый гвоздь -- ты здесь хозяин, а не гость! "
Почему все эти условия, которые должны быть четко определены - трактуются?
Почему нет документа на Вебе, на который мы бы все могли ссылаться?
Всех-то делов - спас документ ла лаптопе, а потом показал его таможеннику?

[Crazy Diamond]

Всех-то делов - спас документ ла лаптопе, а потом показал его таможеннику?

Хехе! Насмешил. :lol: :lol: Сурьезный ока на пасспортном контроле не никогда не позволит утруждать себя читанием всякой писанины на вашем лаптопе, уважаемый. Мне интересно стало: они хоть что-нибудь читают? Циркуляры там секретые, газеты, книжки наконец..? :rolleyes:

[Mamothy]

OK! I shell agree with you, because looking at my OVIR visa I see a note
saying "This passport will expire" and date which is about 10 years from now.
Does that mean that my passport had expired 10 years ago and all american bureaucrats just don't care? It is hard to believe. Especially since 9/11 they are
a pain in the neck with all required paperworks. Why the communication about
this kinda serious matter between two countries has been lost?
I understand that you are not exactly the person who can give the answers.
Anyways, I appreciate any response :)



Hi elle,

By law, once your OVIR visa expires, you should return to Uzbekistan to extend it. You, again by law, should not be able to travel to foreign countries with expired OVIR viza. Most contries, however, do not care for it, expect in the CIS countries. Once your OVIR visa expires, your passport becomes an internal passport (for travel within Uzbekistan and CIS countries where you don't need an entry visa).

If you are returning to Uzbekistan with expired visa, the guys at the passport control, depending on their mood, might or might not take any action. Usually they do not, unless you provoke them. If you see that it is not going well, burst into team and with cries: "Okaaajon, kuyvoring, iltimoooos, boshqa unaqa qimimaaaan!", try to muddle your way out. :lol:

Go via VIP exit - will be less hassle.

Goodluck,

CD

[Crazy Diamond]

OK! I shell agree with you, because looking at my OVIR visa I see a note
saying "This passport will expire" and date which is about 10 years from now.
Does that mean that my passport had expired 10 years ago and all american bureaucrats just don't care? It is hard to believe. Especially since 9/11 they are
a pain in the neck with all required paperworks. Why the communication about
this kinda serious matter between two countries has been lost?
I understand that you are not exactly the person who can give the answers.
Anyways, I appreciate any response :)


Mamothy,

Americans, just like most others, do not understand the concept of exit visa or a foreign passport. Within CIS, most countries have foreign passports they travel abroad with. As far as I know, only Uzbekistan and Belarus have exit visas procedures - stamped in their internal passport – which allows them to travel internationally.

I agree that lack of communication on this vital aspect as international travel is troubling, especially in the current unstable environment.

However, once you get a legal residency in any foreign country, you should be able to travel freely without OVIR visa (subject to notification of OVIR in Uzbekistan and Uzbekistan Embassy in the country of residency).

Vot'.

[referee]

Почему все эти условия, которые должны быть четко определены - трактуются?
Почему нет документа на Вебе, на который мы бы все могли ссылаться?
Всех-то делов - спас документ ла лаптопе, а потом показал его таможеннику?

Because it provides pleanty of opportunities for creative corruption. In the end of the day, people that are made to pay bribes to passport control officers are poor uneducated people who would not know the laws anyway. Educated and well-informed people would resist paying anything to these blood-suckers...

[referee]

Хехе! Насмешил. :lol: :lol: Сурьезный ока на пасспортном контроле не никогда не позволит утруждать себя читанием всякой писанины на вашем лаптопе, уважаемый. Мне интересно стало: они хоть что-нибудь читают? Циркуляры там секретые, газеты, книжки наконец..? :rolleyes:

you'd be surprised to know how effective it is to cite to these people the relevant law, code or person of high rank - it makes miracles. I guess if people start quoting en mass, then we'll have to come up with new ideas to intimidate passport lovers:)

[Crazy Diamond]

you'd be surprised to know how effective it is to cite to these people the relevant law, code or person of high rank - it makes miracles. I guess if people start quoting en mass, then we'll have to come up with new ideas to intimidate passport lovers:)

in my humble experience, knowledge of relevant law and code don't work, however the latter - a name of some (even imaginary) high ranking person - works wanders. ;)

[Mamothy]

I agree. They will never understand such a contradicting mess:
the face page of the passport has one expiration date,
the page with OVIR visa - has another date which is kind of canceling
the one shown on the first page.

What is the legal residency? Permanent residentship status?
Does that mean if I have a green card I am not required to have
an exit visa stamp in my passport? Is that right?
Thanks!



Mamothy,

Americans, just like most others, do not understand the concept of exit visa or a foreign passport. Within CIS, most countries have foreign passports they travel abroad with. As far as I know, only Uzbekistan and Belarus have exit visas procedures - stamped in their internal passport – which allows them to travel internationally.

I agree that lack of communication on this vital aspect as international travel is troubling, especially in the current unstable environment.

However, once you get a legal residency in any foreign country, you should be able to travel freely without OVIR visa (subject to notification of OVIR in Uzbekistan and Uzbekistan Embassy in the country of residency).

Vot'.

[Crazy Diamond]

What is the legal residency? Permanent residentship status?
Does that mean if I have a green card I am not required to have
an exit visa stamp in my passport? Is that right?
Thanks!

This is what I know, however don't quote me on this: if you have permanently (legally ;) , like on a green-card) reside in a foreign country, you can register this fact with your local OVIR in Uzbekistan (formal notification), register with the Uzbek Embassy (they will put you on some sort of register again and even might stamp your passport!). This will allow you to travel without OVIR visa. Can't show any official documentation on this - was given this information verbally by Uzbekistan internal affairs person. I have not gone through this procedure myself yet, although planning to.

Hope this helps!

[Mamothy]

It shouldn't be hard to check.

Thanks!



This is what I know, however don't quote me on this: if you have permanently (legally ;) , like on a green-card) reside in a foreign country, you can register this fact with your local OVIR in Uzbekistan (formal notification), register with the Uzbek Embassy (they will put you on some sort of register again and even might stamp your passport!). This will allow you to travel without OVIR visa. Can't show any official documentation on this - was given this information verbally by Uzbekistan internal affairs person. I have not gone through this procedure myself yet, although planning to.

Hope this helps!

[R.Azimov]

Mening pasportimda OVIR umuman yo'q. Yaqinda Uzbekistonga bormoqchiman, nima bo'larkin-a? ;)
(aytishlaricha Andijon fojealaridan keyin Hizbut-tahrir-UK bilan Uzbekiston orasida xusumat chiqib, O'zbekiston UK Governmentdan Hizbut-tahrirni taqiqlashlarini so'ragan ekan va bugungi kunda UK dan O'zbekistonga ketayotgan har bir yo'lovchi(O'zbeklar ham shu jumladan) alohida qattiq tekshiruvdan o'tarkan.)
Men ham ayni o'rmonga o't ketganda borayapman, uning ustiga ovir ham yo'q pasportimda.
Aeroportdagilar xursand bo'lib, do'ppilarini osmonga otishsa keragov, "tayyor o'lja keldi" deb ;)
Nima qilsam ekan ??

R.A.

[elle]

Hello CD, thank you for responding and giving the details. But it seems so :shock: , crazy!!!!! Why do i need to return to the country to extend that visa, if from the beginning i need it just to exit it? I don't travel to CIS countries, so this is not the issue at the moment. And i was told back in Tashkent by the lawyer - the idea of the OVIR is to check you on he "system" that you are not under the "Wanted" list, not criminal etc - not sure, if only that. So if i haven't been back in country for that period, i couldn't commit any crimes there:-)??? Well anyway now I (v gkubikih razmishleniyah) after few diff. opinions.:rolleyes: .




Hi elle,

By law, once your OVIR visa expires, you should return to Uzbekistan to extend it. You, again by law, should not be able to travel to foreign countries with expired OVIR viza. Most contries, however, do not care for it, expect in the CIS countries. Once your OVIR visa expires, your passport becomes an internal passport (for travel within Uzbekistan and CIS countries where you don't need an entry visa).

If you are returning to Uzbekistan with expired visa, the guys at the passport control, depending on their mood, might or might not take any action. Usually they do not, unless you provoke them. If you see that it is not going well, burst into team and with cries: "Okaaajon, kuyvoring, iltimoooos, boshqa unaqa qimimaaaan!", try to muddle your way out. :lol:

Go via VIP exit - will be less hassle.

Goodluck,

CD

[elle]

Vot vot i ya ob etom.
Ves' inet pererila!!!:evil: :evil: :evil: Daje kodeksi razniye zakachala sebe na komp, sidela kak "dullla" perechitivala - chitat' nazivayetsya bol'she nechego bilo:-). I nichego ne nashla, krome toog chto " To EXIT the COUNTRY you need to get OVIR", and how about coming back or maybe they think (a nafig ono nujno) vseravno polovina ne vozrashayetsya:lol: :lol: :lol: ???




Уже даже интересно. Трактовок можно напридумывать сколько угодно.
Всем этим таможенникам может все что угодно взбрести в голову
лишь бы денег побольше стрясти... Что-то типа, "Тяни со стройки каждый гвоздь -- ты здесь хозяин, а не гость! "
Почему все эти условия, которые должны быть четко определены - трактуются?
Почему нет документа на Вебе, на который мы бы все могли ссылаться?
Всех-то делов - спас документ ла лаптопе, а потом показал его таможеннику?

[elle]

Nea , ne katit GULAMUS!

Ya uje zvonila i razgovarivala. Tak tam vse takiye uverenniye, chto so vtorogo predlojeniya chut' li ne na Ti (kak budto ya im podrujka) skazali chto mol - domoy na rodinu, za novoy vizoy - a mi tut nichego ne delaem:twisted:



Naskolko ya znayu: ty poluchil Ovir visa i vyehal.. da ktoto tut skazal chto eto dla vyezda, no ya toje rozgovarival s konsulatom i tam kokretno skazali chto budesh plotit shtraf za to chto ne prodlil Ovir visa..
Tak chto esli ty vyehal, i tolko potom vozvroshyaeshsya to ty skajy chto budesh plotit shtraf v Ovire i vse, I mean rabotnikam aeroporta i vse oni tebya... poymut i budut znat chto ty znaesh pravila Ovira..
I esli ty edish domoy, to seryozno delay eto tam , pochemu? Ved ty mojesh prodlit svoyu visu Ovir cherez Uzbek Konsulat v toy strone gde nahodishsa, no eto dlitsya bolshe chem 3 mesyatsev.. No toje zavisit kak bystro prihodit dip pochta. Esli bystro to doljnobyt po pravilam Konsulata 2 mesyatsa!
vot eto pravila Ovir visy.

huligano

[elle]

By the way thanx a lot to everybody for the info!!!!
NO!!!!! topik ne zakrit - prodoljaem discutirovat'!:lol:

[Angel baby]

Неа , не катит ГУЛАМУС!
&нбсп;


Я уэ звонила и разговаривала. Так там все такиые уверенниые, что со второго предлоэния чуть ли не на Ти (как будто я им подруйка) сказали что мол - домоы на родину, за новоы визоы - а ми тут ничего не делаем:twisted: &нбсп;
Интересно, ви случаино не с уборшицеы которая в консульстве работает разговаривали :rolleyes: ????
&нбсп;
&нбсп;

[elle]

Mamothy, as i understand your passport has expired 10 years ago right? If so than you must be not travelling out of US, othervise you wouldn't be able, other than back home to your country. As i know some countries won't give you a visa if you have 6 or less months left to the expiry, as they not sure if you'll come back and etc.



OK! I shell agree with you, because looking at my OVIR visa I see a note
saying "This passport will expire" and date which is about 10 years from now.
Does that mean that my passport had expired 10 years ago and all american bureaucrats just don't care? It is hard to believe. Especially since 9/11 they are
a pain in the neck with all required paperworks. Why the communication about
this kinda serious matter between two countries has been lost?
I understand that you are not exactly the person who can give the answers.
Anyways, I appreciate any response :)

[elle]

Net sluchayno ne s uborshicoy:-) Kstati a chto v nashih konsul'stvah za granicey i uborshici toje s Uzbekistana?:rolleyes:

&нбсп;
Интересно, ви случаино не с уборшицеы которая в консульстве работает разговаривали :rolleyes: ????
&нбсп;
&нбсп;

[Angel baby]

Думаю надо всем успокоиться.
&нбсп;
ОВИР стикер, ето разрешение на выезд!!!
Живите себе за гранизеы сколько хотите, по возврашению проблем не должно бить!!! Ну, если только вы ne полнеiшие лохи, и ne поведетесь на удочку узбекских погранцов.

[Angel baby]

Нет случаыно не с уборшицоы:-) Кстати а что в наших консульствах за границеы и уборшици тоэ с Узбекистана?:rolleyes: &нбсп;
Конечно с Узбекистана:D у нас же любят родственников везде и повсюду сувать, тем более в таaaaaaaaaaakoe mesto...

[elle]

Мда уж, веселухааааааа:rolleyes:

&амп;нбсп;
&амп;нбсп;
&амп;амп;нбсп;
Конечно с Узбекистана:D у нас же любят родственников везде и повсюду сувать, тем более в тааааааааааакое место...

[Angel baby]

Мамотхы, ас и ундерстанд ёур пасспорт хас ехпиред 10 ыеарс аго ригхт? Иф со тхан ёу муст бе нот травеллинг оут оф УС, отхервисе ёу wоулдньт бе абле, отхер тхан бацк хоме то ёур цоунтры. Ас и кноw соме цоунтриес wоньт гиве ёу а виса иф ёу хаве 6 ор лесс монтхс лефт то тхе ехпиры, ас тхеы нот суре иф ёуьлл цоме бацк анд етц. &амп;амп;нбсп;
&амп;амп;нбсп;
&амп;нбсп;
еllе, вы не правильно поняли, у mamonty Овир стикер просрочен 10 лет, а человек до сих пор за границеи;)

[elle]

АААааааааа, понятно, ну тогда ОК. Thanx:)

&амп;нбсп;
&амп;нбсп;
&амп;амп;амп;амп;нбсп;
&амп;амп;амп;амп;нбсп;
&амп;амп;амп;нбсп;
елле, вы не правильно поняли, у мамонты Овир стикер просрочен 10 лет, а человек до сих пор за границеи;)

[Crazy Diamond]

Why do i need to return to the country to extend that visa, if from the beginning i need it just to exit it?

Your OVIR visa is not just to exit, it is for travel to foreign countries. The regulation was more relaxed before and I travelled with expired OVIR visa with no problems whatsoever. However, for the last couple of years passport and visa regulations got stricker. If you can avoid getting into trouble with Uzbek authorities - avoid it!

Kak ja uje govorila - esli chto, plach'sja djaden'ke na granice. :lol:

[Angel baby]

Ёур ОВИР виса ис нот юст то ехит, ит ис фор травел то фореигн цоунтриес. Тхе регулатион wас море релахед бефоре анд И травеллед wитх ехпиред ОВИР виса wитх но проблемс wхатсоевер. Хоwевер, фор тхе ласт цоупле оф ыеарс пасспорт анд виса регулатионс гот стрицкер. Иф ёу цан авоид геттинг инто троубле wитх Узбек аутхоритиес - авоид ит!
&нбсп;


Как я уэ говорила - если что, плачься дяденьке на границе. :lol:

.....что ето за совет плакаться дядечке на границе....ну прям kak малые дети.

Может вам, Crazy diamond, стоит еше раз попробовать дозвониться до консульства и еше раз переспросить про Овир разрешене...А???

ну не надо его продливать....не надо !!!!!! (стикер- штамп)

[Crazy Diamond]

.....что ето за совет плакаться дядечке на границе....ну прям kak малые дети.

Может вам, Crazy diamond, стоит еше раз попробовать дозвониться до консульства и еше раз переспросить про Овир разрешене...А???

ну не надо его продливать....не надо !!!!!! (стикер- штамп)

Angel baby, get a grip. :D You want to travel with expired OVIR visa - take your chance. Do tell of your experiences afterwards. ;)

Re advice: kogda mujik s passportnogo kontrolja budet musolit'sja s tvoim passportom na granice, i v nereshitel'nsti smotret' chto j s nim delat' dal'she - zvat' vlast' s pogodami i sosat' s tebja deneg, da pobol'she, ili otpustit' i ne tratit' vremja - iskrennie slevy :cry: i ljubezneyshie slova v adres "vlasti" - rabotaet.

[Angel baby]

Ангел бабы, гет а грип. :D Ёу wант то травел wитх ехпиред ОВИР виса - таке ёур чанце. До телл оф ёур ехпериенцес афтерwардс. ;)
&амп;нбсп;


Ре адвице: когда муйик с пасспортного контроля будет мусолиться с твоим пасспортом на границе, и в нерешительнсти смотреть что й с ним делать дальше - звать власть с погодами и сосать с тебя денег, да побольше, или отпустить и не тратить время - искренние слевы :cry: и любезнеышие слова в адрес "власти" - работает.
А че? Я ни че....
Летала я с просроченним Овиром (не с Узбекистана и не из России) и визы получала туда куда мне надо било...И в Узбекистан возврашалась с "просроченным" Овиром (5 лет)...

Но вот деньги с меня вимогала, как ее там полиция нравов (клоунов) no не за просроченниы Овир...:evil:
ОК?

[elle]

A kak je eto ponimat' - ya pravda ne uzbechka, no pomoymu napisano, chto "Exit only"

Dunyoning barcha mamlakatlariga CHIQISH UCHUN RUHSAT berilgan -

Your OVIR visa is not just to exit, it is for travel to foreign countries. The regulation was more relaxed before and I travelled with expired OVIR visa with no problems whatsoever. However, for the last couple of years passport and visa regulations got stricker. If you can avoid getting into trouble with Uzbek authorities - avoid it!

Kak ja uje govorila - esli chto, plach'sja djaden'ke na granice. :lol:

[elle]

I potom, nu net je OFFICIAL DOCUMENT saying anything in this case, What if just say, that i know the policy and there is no such and such regulations? Prosto ya chelovek emocional'niy - nachinayu otstaivat' svoi prava - za granicey navernoe dolgo bila:-)

[Crazy Diamond]

А че? Я ни че....
Летала я с просроченним Овиром (не с Узбекистана и не из России) и визы получала туда куда мне надо било...И в Узбекистан возврашалась с "просроченным" Овиром (5 лет)...

Но вот деньги с меня вимогала, как ее там полиция нравов (клоунов) no не за просроченниы Овир...:evil:
ОК?

Э, девушкалар, я об энтом уже сказала-да - летай куды захочеца, не залетая в СНГ - будет нормально все. В Узбекистан возвращаесся, и как попадеца - пасспортно-контрольный мужик может пристать, а может отпустить. Вот и все дела.

[Alex]

Э, девушкалар, я об энтом уже сказала-да - летай куды захочеца, не залетая в СНГ - будет нормально все. В Узбекистан возвращаесся, и как попадеца - пасспортно-контрольный мужик может пристать, а может отпустить. Вот и все дела. Да, козлы они все! Устроили СССР с восточным колоритом, блин! Визы...
Dunyoning barcha mamlakatlariga CHIQISH UCHUN RUHSAT berilgan :lol: Как безграмотность узбекских чиновников.

[Angel baby]

Да, козлы они все! Устроили СССР с восточным колоритом, блин! Визы...
&нбсп;
&нбсп;
:lol: Как безграмотность узбекских чиновников.

Vo во, толко из за того что перевод на англиискии язык самого предназначения етои визы на стикере не корректен, страдают простые люди.

П.C. для Crazy daimond - просьба в последуюшем мне не Э кать ОК?:rolleyes:

[Crazy Diamond]

П.C. для Crazy daimond - просьба в последуюшем мне не Э кать ОК?:rolleyes:

'Э' - в данном случае - и в последующих - не тыкание в вашу сторону, и даже не обращение к вам, наичувствительнейшая Angel baby, а возглас раздражения невнимательностью некоторых форумчан. :D :D

[Angel baby]

ьЭь - в данном случае - и в последующих - не тыкание в вашу сторону, и даже не обращение к вам, наичувствительнейшая Ангел бабы, а возглас раздражения невнимательностью некоторых форумчан. :D :D


понятно, прастите, в последуюшем будем внимательнее;)

[Alex]

Кстати, как она выглядит эта виза?

[Alex]

Погранцы все почти бараны, законов не знают, только деньги вымогают. Всех я их ненавижу - ТАМОЖНЮ, ПОГРАНИЧНИКОВ, и прочих козлов. За деньги суки все сделают. Особенно в странах СНГ они голодные козлы... Ну ё, все сумки козлы смотрят, да еще и по 3 раза. Письма сволочи смотрят читают сучьё... Газеты смотрят, если видео или что везешь - что зачем и как? Козлы чертовы, сучьё, дармоеды... Все бараны с кишлаков недоучки в таможенный институт лезут так как место хлебное, а потом сидят там зелень и бараны особенно в провинции, в Таше народ наверное по умнее и погуманеее... И управы нет на них... воспоминания нахлынули блин о проходе таможен всяких разных...

[Angel baby]

Погранцы все почти бараны, законов не знают, только деньги вымогают. Всех я их ненавижу - ТАМОЖНЮ, ПОГРАНИЧНИКОВ, и прочих козлов. За деньги суки все сделают. Особенно в странах СНГ они голодные козлы... Ну ё, все сумки козлы смотрят, да еще и по 3 раза. Письма сволочи смотрят читают сучьё... Газеты смотрят, если видео или что везешь - что зачем и как? Козлы чертовы, сучьё, дармоеды... Все бараны с кишлаков недоучки в таможенный институт лезут так как место хлебное, а потом сидят там зелень и бараны особенно в провинции, в Таше народ наверное по умнее и погуманеее... И управы нет на них... воспоминания нахлынули блин о проходе таможен всяких разных...
В Ташкенте еще то гамно....:casper:

[elle]

So guys what's the final result? What should i say at the customs in Tash airport on arrival??????:D :rolleyes: ;) Or better not to say :rolleyes: thanx

[ББ]

situation:
my 2-year OVIR visa expired. i have ways of getting my passport to good old Uzb. where my friend will get me an OVIR visa for another two years.

question:
will i have problems when i next go back to Uzb? let me explain. My passport has a "border control stamp" which says i left Uzb a year ago. but my visa will be dated as of this month. So I might be asked by the border control: " how did you renew your visa if you were not in the country".

pls reply only if you know of this specific situation. thanks in advance for your time.
bb

[Pyro]

A kak je eto ponimat' - ya pravda ne uzbechka, no pomoymu napisano, chto "Exit only"

Dunyoning barcha mamlakatlariga CHIQISH UCHUN RUHSAT berilgan -

who are u if you are not uzbek, russian

[Pyro]

Mamothy,

As far as I know, only Uzbekistan and Belarus

Vot'.

as far as you know aint shit :)

[Royal]

situation:
my 2-year OVIR visa expired. i have ways of getting my passport to good old Uzb. where my friend will get me an OVIR visa for another two years.

question:
will i have problems when i next go back to Uzb? let me explain. My passport has a "border control stamp" which says i left Uzb a year ago. but my visa will be dated as of this month. So I might be asked by the border control: " how did you renew your visa if you were not in the country".

pls reply only if you know of this specific situation. thanks in advance for your time.
bb

bb
hech qanaqa problema yo.
yengidan olishniyam keragi yo, gap kopaytirmasdan.
chunki ovir vozasi faqat shu passport egasini CHET ELGA CHIQISHI uchun-kirishi uchunmas. A Kirish uchun UZB paspportini ozi yetadi.

[AKI]

[QUOTE=Royal]bb

Royal togri gapirdi. Agar Uzb fuqorosi chet elda yurib OVIR visa exp bogan bolsa qaytib kelish uchun problem bomidi.

[Pythagor]

davlatam o'lganakan endi, qaytib kirishda ham visa(ichki) so'rasa. Mantiq yo'qku bunda, bu ochiqchasiga ahmoqlikde....
Hech kim o'zini uyiga visa(ichki) bilan kirmiydiyu...:lol:

[Gareeb]

problema qilaman desa yo'q joydan ham qilaveradi. Lekin odatda ovir expire bo'lgan bo'lsa kirishda problema bo'miydi.

[elle]

What it has to do with my topic?

who are u if you are not uzbek, russian

[elle]

The issue is not that we think that expired OVIR visa will create problem to enter UZB. I'm talking about possibility of customs people at the Tash. airport saying that it is "not legal" to travel outside of UZB. without the valid OVIR visa, (as I for example travelled a lot, to diff. countries, without coming back to Tash). Therefore they might say that you have to pay some penalty or other "unexpected" payment:shock:


davlatam o'lganakan endi, qaytib kirishda ham visa(ichki) so'rasa. Mantiq yo'qku bunda, bu ochiqchasiga ahmoqlikde....
Hech kim o'zini uyiga visa(ichki) bilan kirmiydiyu...:lol:

[admiral]

The issue is not that we think that expired OVIR visa will create problem to enter UZB. I'm talking about possibility of customs people at the Tash. airport saying that it is "not legal" to travel outside of UZB. without the valid OVIR visa, (as I for example travelled a lot, to diff. countries, without coming back to Tash). Therefore they might say that you have to pay some penalty or other "unexpected" payment:shock:

Elle kak bivshiy sotrudnik tamojennoy slujbi RUz zayavlayu, chto tamojenniki ne imeyut pravo tebe govorit chto u tebya OVIR viza expired. It is one of the tricks we use to make living at the airport. :) I guarantee it. Only people who can question you is KOGG SNB (pogranslujba i.e.passportniy control). But I do not know their deal/rules/tricks.

If they (passport control) let you go thru the control, that means u tebya vsyo v poryadke. Tamojnya tol'ko doljna proverit' bagaj na predmet zapreshennix predmetov i veshestv. VSYO!

[admiral]

Narod drugoy vopros:
Who has to register with Uzb Embassy in the US. I read the info below, but still confused.

http://www.uzbekistan.org/ru/consular/services/registration/

На консульский учет принимаются граждане Республики Узбекистан имеющие соответствующее разрешение Управления въезда, выезда и гражданства (УВВиГ) МВД на выезд из Республики Узбекистан на постоянное жительство.

[Mamothy]

Спасибо за комментарий.
В принципе, это и следовало ожидать.
Может еще поделитесь, какими эффективными мерами
можно отсечь таможенников от своего кошелька? :)

Elle kak bivshiy sotrudnik tamojennoy slujbi RUz zayavlayu, chto tamojenniki ne imeyut pravo tebe govorit chto u tebya OVIR viza expired. It is one of the tricks we use to make living at the airport. :) I guarantee it. Only people who can question you is KOGG SNB (pogranslujba i.e.passportniy control). But I do not know their deal/rules/tricks.

If they (passport control) let you go thru the control, that means u tebya vsyo v poryadke. Tamojnya tol'ko doljna proverit' bagaj na predmet zapreshennix predmetov i veshestv. VSYO!

[referee]

Narod drugoy vopros:
Who has to register with Uzb Embassy in the US. I read the info below, but still confused.

http://www.uzbekistan.org/ru/consular/services/registration/

На консульский учет принимаются граждане Республики Узбекистан имеющие соответствующее разрешение Управления въезда, выезда и гражданства (УВВиГ) МВД на выезд из Республики Узбекистан на постоянное жительство.

it should apply to permanent residents who are still Uzb citizens. I suggest avoiding to register if possible so that Uzb embassy has no info on you. NO info, no spying:D

[admiral]

Спасибо за комментарий.
В принципе, это и следовало ожидать.
Может еще поделитесь, какими эффективными мерами
можно отсечь таможенников от своего кошелька? :)

Da neeet ... Eto bilo bi neuvajeniem k professii i bivshim kollegam. :) Prosto znayte svoi prava, esli ne znaete togda sprashivayte. V hudshim sluchai, skajite chto pojaluetes na GTK (gos tamoj komitet) samomu predsetadelyu.
Ili u vas znakomiy rabotaet v sb (sobsetvennaya bezopasnost' - militsiya tamojennikov, sechut nechestnih tamojennikov i vigonyayut iz organov)

udachi, menya sdes' ne bilo. ;)

[referee]

Da neeet ... Eto bilo bi neuvajeniem k professii i bivshim kollegam. :) Prosto znayte svoi prava, esli ne znaete togda sprashivayte. V hudshim sluchai, skajite chto pojaluetes na GTK (gos tamoj komitet) samomu predsetadelyu.
Ili u vas znakomiy rabotaet v sb (sobsetvennaya bezopasnost' - militsiya tamojennikov, sechut nechestnih tamojennikov i vigonyayut iz organov)

udachi, menya sdes' ne bilo. ;)

и еще, пару фамилий и координат глав. служащих из выше-упомянутых инстанций тоже класно помогает....

[admiral]

и еще, пару фамилий и координат глав. служащих из выше-упомянутых инстанций тоже класно помогает....

Eto uje platnaya info. :lol:

[Gu_Ga]

Speaking of OVIR, what's the situation with renewing OVIR in UZb-n (Tashkent?) for those who travel back and forth between US and Uzb?

[SmIlIk]

Speaking of OVIR, what's the situation with renewing OVIR in UZb-n (Tashkent?) for those who travel back and forth between US and Uzb?

As far as I've been told there should be no problem...

[referee]

Eto uje platnaya info. :lol:

попытка не пытка:D не важно, есть такая инфо у меня , хотя не свежая;)

[Пушкарева]

Kto nibud znaet kak menyat passport v Uzb? Skolklo vremeni eto zanimaet? Yesli u menya istekaet passport in March 2006 and I want to go home in December 2005 - can I change it earlier?

[-Resident-]

Kto nibud znaet kak menyat passport v Uzb? Skolklo vremeni eto zanimaet? Yesli u menya istekaet passport in March 2006 and I want to go home in December 2005 - can I change it earlier?
Da eto mojno sdelat nado budet pokazat pochemu ti hochesh prejdevremenno menyat passport! Poydesh v OVIR snachala i napishesh zayavleniya i daesh im bumagu kotoriy pokazivaet prichinu prejdevremennogo obmena pasporta potom ono dadut spravku dlya pasportnogo stola i potom pasportniy stol budet tebe menyat na novuyu!

[AKI]

Kto nibud znaet kak menyat passport v Uzb? Skolklo vremeni eto zanimaet? Yesli u menya istekaet passport in March 2006 and I want to go home in December 2005 - can I change it earlier?

Albatta boladi. Holasez Uzb da almashtiring, holasez hozir turan joyingizdagi Uzb Pasol yoki Consul ga tel qiling. 6 oy ga cha chozib berishi mumkin ili almashtirib beradi.
Omadlar ishlariz ongidan kelsin.;)

[Пушкарева]

Da eto mojno sdelat nado budet pokazat pochemu ti hochesh prejdevremenno menyat passport! Poydesh v OVIR snachala i napishesh zayavleniya i daesh im bumagu kotoriy pokazivaet prichinu prejdevremennogo obmena pasporta potom ono dadut spravku dlya pasportnogo stola i potom pasportniy stol budet tebe menyat na novuyu!

Kakoy ujas!! Eto nado begat po vsem etim instanciyam.. Na eto uydyot stolko vremeni i nerv. Uffff

[-Resident-]

Kakoy ujas!! Eto nado begat po vsem etim instanciyam.. Na eto uydyot stolko vremeni i nerv. Uffff
Da nado budet nemnogo pobegat chtob delat eto moy drug tratil gdeto mesyats pomoemu chtob vzyat noviy pasport prichem s pomoshu nekotorih "znakomih" Tak chto budet nemnogo golovnoy boli!

[elle]

Mojno sdelat' i bystree, esli ochen' srochno nuzhno;)
V lyuboy gazate s ob'yavleniyami est' "legal" uslugi kotorye pomogayut reshit' lyubye voprosy v uskorennye sroki, moi znakomye mnogie pol'zovalis' uslugami i passporta byli gotovy maximum za nedelyu. Pravda estesstvenno jeto ne besplatno, khotya te den'gi stoyat togo. (I mean you don't have headache of following all the channels (which unfortunately do not work well:cool: )and collecting all the documents yourself).

Officially the change of passport suppose to take 2-3 days, but it never works that way, for some reason :lol: "passportnyj stol" always have some excuses to postpone the process to up to a month. (pesonal experince)


Kakoy ujas!! Eto nado begat po vsem etim instanciyam.. Na eto uydyot stolko vremeni i nerv. Uffff

[elle]

Admiral, thanx a lot for sharing the info:D

Elle kak bivshiy sotrudnik tamojennoy slujbi RUz zayavlayu, chto tamojenniki ne imeyut pravo tebe govorit chto u tebya OVIR viza expired. It is one of the tricks we use to make living at the airport. :) I guarantee it. Only people who can question you is KOGG SNB (pogranslujba i.e.passportniy control). But I do not know their deal/rules/tricks.

If they (passport control) let you go thru the control, that means u tebya vsyo v poryadke. Tamojnya tol'ko doljna proverit' bagaj na predmet zapreshennix predmetov i veshestv. VSYO!

[Пушкарева]

Albatta boladi. Holasez Uzb da almashtiring, holasez hozir turan joyingizdagi Uzb Pasol yoki Consul ga tel qiling. 6 oy ga cha chozib berishi mumkin ili almashtirib beradi.
Omadlar ishlariz ongidan kelsin.;)

Kecha Embassymiz bilan gaplashdim, consular section b/n. Oni skazali passport nelzya ranshe menyat. Tolko v tom mesyace, kogda on istekaet.. Dumala, mojet zdes (Wash) ranche nachat menyat, a potom poletet domoy i postavit US visa in new passport. T.k. yesli domoy na kanikuli polechu, taht is 2 nedeli, ne hochu provesti vsyo to vremya begaya iz za passporta. In Embassy they told, tak nelzya - menyat ranshe. A priletet suda after New Year, i cherez 3 mesyaca pomenyat passport, potom sidet s nim - no bez vizi, kak-to ne hochestya. Vsyo ravno nujno imet visa. Vot i dumayu, kak bit.

Are you sure, chot eto vsyo taki possible pomenyat v Tashkente passport na 3 months earlier? I sdelat eto za nedelu??

[Globaluz]

On:
Даже если вы пробудете, 3-4 месяца без амер. визы, то это не страшно. В посольстве или консульстве они могут вам выдать справку о том, что вы сдали свой паспорт для обмена на новый. И он может вам служит вместо паспорта пока его вам не пришлют.

Off:
Смешение языков, сорри не сдержался. ;)


Kecha Embassymiz bilan gaplashdim, consular section b/n. Oni skazali passport nelzya ranshe menyat. Tolko v tom mesyace, kogda on istekaet.. Dumala, mojet zdes (Wash) ranche nachat menyat, a potom poletet domoy i postavit US visa in new passport. T.k. yesli domoy na kanikuli polechu, taht is 2 nedeli, ne hochu provesti vsyo to vremya begaya iz za passporta. In Embassy they told, tak nelzya - menyat ranshe. A priletet suda after New Year, i cherez 3 mesyaca pomenyat passport, potom sidet s nim - no bez vizi, kak-to ne hochestya. Vsyo ravno nujno imet visa. Vot i dumayu, kak bit.

Are you sure, chot eto vsyo taki possible pomenyat v Tashkente passport na 3 months earlier? I sdelat eto za nedelu??

[Пушкарева]

[QUOTE=Globaluz]On:
Даже если вы пробудете, 3-4 месяца без амер. визы, то это не страшно. В посольстве или консульстве они могут вам выдать справку о том, что вы сдали свой паспорт для обмена на новый. И он может вам служит вместо паспорта пока его вам не пришлют.


Da, ya znayu, chto mojno s etoy spravkoy pohodit zdes. No delo v tom, chto mne tut yeshyo goda 2 bit, for sure, i hodit z passportom bez vizi togda pridyotsya vsyo eto vremya, poka v sleduyushiy raz v Tashkent ne poedu. A ne 3-4 mesyaca. Ya takje znayu, chto zdes mojno bit i bez vizi, ona nujna tolko dlya vyezda v stranu, no vsyo ravno kak to nepriyatno bit bez neyo zdes. Vdrug ya zahochu poehat kuda nibud, nujno je i obratno vozvrashatsya. Odnim slovom, hochu perestavit vizu v noviy passport, no ne poluchaetsya vsyo eto sdelat odnim mahom - poezdka v Tashkent, obmen passporta (t.e. eto budet za 3 mesyaca do facticheskogo istecheniya yego sroka), i perestavit vizu v new passport.

Vot taki dela.

PS: za smesheniye yazkov - proshu pardon

[Alliance]

Elle---airportni uzida ishigni, taxminam $50ga tug'rilasa bo'ladi, faqatgina kerakli odamlar bilan uchrashish kerak, xolos....
Uzbechka---Xasan (Embassydan) aka degan odam, yordam bera olmas ekanlarmi?

[-Resident-]

[QUOTE=Globaluz]On:
Даже если вы пробудете, 3-4 месяца без амер. визы, то это не страшно. В посольстве или консульстве они могут вам выдать справку о том, что вы сдали свой паспорт для обмена на новый. И он может вам служит вместо паспорта пока его вам не пришлют.


Da, ya znayu, chto mojno s etoy spravkoy pohodit zdes. No delo v tom, chto mne tut yeshyo goda 2 bit, for sure, i hodit z passportom bez vizi togda pridyotsya vsyo eto vremya, poka v sleduyushiy raz v Tashkent ne poedu. A ne 3-4 mesyaca. Ya takje znayu, chto zdes mojno bit i bez vizi, ona nujna tolko dlya vyezda v stranu, no vsyo ravno kak to nepriyatno bit bez neyo zdes. Vdrug ya zahochu poehat kuda nibud, nujno je i obratno vozvrashatsya. Odnim slovom, hochu perestavit vizu v noviy passport, no ne poluchaetsya vsyo eto sdelat odnim mahom - poezdka v Tashkent, obmen passporta (t.e. eto budet za 3 mesyaca do facticheskogo istecheniya yego sroka), i perestavit vizu v new passport.

Vot taki dela.

PS: za smesheniye yazkov - proshu pardon
Uzbechka ti smojesh kak ya skazal ranshe no po vsey veroyatnosti eto toje ne poluchitsa v danniy moment potomu chto amerikanskoe posolstvo ne dayot shas visi tak chto esli ne poyedesh v Moskvu togda zabud pro zamenu pasporta(esli ne budet obratno rabotat posolstvo v obichnom rejime)
Udachi!

[elle]

Ya tozje zvonila v nashe embassy po to mu zje voprosu, i mne skazali chto ran'she sroka passport pomenyat' mozhno v sluchae esli ty predostavish dokument kotorij ob'jasnyaet prichinu prezhdevremennogo obmena.

In any case if you will find the person (jurist, advokat, chasnik) who will handle all the process - no issues at all. That's all so many legal guys offering those kind of services, because they know there are always people who need everything urgently, and it's easy for you bacause they know all the right people and channels:-)

Poprosi domashnih nayti kogo nibud' (dazje cherez ob'yavlenie) i sprosit' smogut li sdelat' za tvoi sroki, i think there will be no probs.


Kecha Embassymiz bilan gaplashdim, consular section b/n. Oni skazali passport nelzya ranshe menyat. Tolko v tom mesyace, kogda on istekaet.. Dumala, mojet zdes (Wash) ranche nachat menyat, a potom poletet domoy i postavit US visa in new passport. T.k. yesli domoy na kanikuli polechu, taht is 2 nedeli, ne hochu provesti vsyo to vremya begaya iz za passporta. In Embassy they told, tak nelzya - menyat ranshe. A priletet suda after New Year, i cherez 3 mesyaca pomenyat passport, potom sidet s nim - no bez vizi, kak-to ne hochestya. Vsyo ravno nujno imet visa. Vot i dumayu, kak bit.

Are you sure, chot eto vsyo taki possible pomenyat v Tashkente passport na 3 months earlier? I sdelat eto za nedelu??

[Newman]

salom.
shengen viza tugaganidan keyin 20 kun o'tib,Germaniyadan chiqib ketishim kerak.
Chiqishda biron muammo bo'lmaydimi?
4 iyulda viza va registratsiyam tugaydi.30 iyulda chiqib ketaman.
30 iyulgacha universitetda research qilganligim haqida certificate bo'ladi qo'limda.Javoblar uchun rahmat.

[mecka]

salom.
shengen viza tugaganidan keyin 20 kun o'tib,Germaniyadan chiqib ketishim kerak.
Chiqishda biron muammo bo'lmaydimi?
4 iyulda viza va registratsiyam tugaydi.30 iyulda chiqib ketaman.
30 iyulgacha universitetda research qilganligim haqida certificate bo'ladi qo'limda.Javoblar uchun rahmat.

ushlavolib germaniyada yashisan. boldi endi ketma. dib opkoladi.

shuyam sowolmi? chikib keturmismi indamiy

[Newman]

ushlavolib germaniyada yashisan. boldi endi ketma. dib opkoladi.

shuyam sowolmi? chikib keturmismi indamiy

ketma, qol deyishadi ma'nosida so'raganim yo'q.
registratsiyam tugagan,vizamning vaqti o'tgan,nimaga registratsiyasiz yashading deb so'rab o'tirmaydimi ma'nosida so'ragandim. chiqib ketishda muammo tug'ilmasligini o'zim ham bilaman. har ehtimoldan so'rab ko'ray degandim,mabodo oxirgi paytlarda qoidalarda o'zgarish bo'lgandir deb.
savol yoqmagan bo'lsa javob berishingiz shartmas.Fikringizni bemalol kallangizda ushlab turavering.

[mecka]

ketma, qol deyishadi ma'nosida so'raganim yo'q.
registratsiyam tugagan,vizamning vaqti o'tgan,nimaga registratsiyasiz yashading deb so'rab o'tirmaydimi ma'nosida so'ragandim. chiqib ketishda muammo tug'ilmasligini o'zim ham bilaman. har ehtimoldan so'rab ko'ray degandim,mabodo oxirgi paytlarda qoidalarda o'zgarish bo'lgandir deb.
savol yoqmagan bo'lsa javob berishingiz shartmas.Fikringizni bemalol kallangizda ushlab turavering.

sovol yoktide, lekinchi sovolmasde bu oka :)
biza pasportsiz yurimmizayu ketish kerey bogan payti chiqipketuramiza, ozlari jonatvorishadi pulini tolab.

[Newman]

sovol yoktide, lekinchi sovolmasde bu oka :)
biza pasportsiz yurimmizayu ketish kerey bogan payti chiqipketuramiza, ozlari jonatvorishadi pulini tolab.

ha endi bunaqa vaziyatga birinchi marta tushishim.ilgarigi safarlarda hech ham bunaqa bo'lmagan.
Qaytishiyiz bepul bo'larkan-da nasib bo'lsa. Deportniyam yaxshi tomonlari bor ya'ni.

[Gareeb]

ha endi bunaqa vaziyatga birinchi marta tushishim.ilgarigi safarlarda hech ham bunaqa bo'lmagan.
Qaytishiyiz bepul bo'larkan-da nasib bo'lsa. Deportniyam yaxshi tomonlari bor ya'ni.
Kimki vatanga butunlayga ketmoqchi bo'lsa immigration officerga murojaat qilsin , tekinga bilet olib jo'natvoradi. Bitta o'rtogim vizasi tugagandi shunday qildi.. :)

[Aus]

salom.
shengen viza tugaganidan keyin 20 kun o'tib,Germaniyadan chiqib ketishim kerak.
Chiqishda biron muammo bo'lmaydimi?
4 iyulda viza va registratsiyam tugaydi.30 iyulda chiqib ketaman.
30 iyulgacha universitetda research qilganligim haqida certificate bo'ladi qo'limda.Javoblar uchun rahmat.


problema bumidi ili uniiz vizesni chuzdirib bersa bulardi
tama studens otdelda buni qisa buladi sizda
passta qatta uqivos qaysi unida turadimi ?
masalan man uqivotkan joyimni nomi hamasi turadi
i agar busa problema bumidi

[Newman]

problema bumidi ili uniiz vizesni chuzdirib bersa bulardi
tama studens otdelda buni qisa buladi sizda
passta qatta uqivos qaysi unida turadimi ?
masalan man uqivotkan joyimni nomi hamasi turadi
i agar busa problema bumidi

univ.ning firmenniy blankasida haqiqattan ham falon kundan falon kungacha stajirovkada edi deb yozib berishdi. registratsiyamni bemalol choz'dirib olsam bo'lardi.Lekin student residence bilan kontraktim tugadi.uyiga jonab ketgan o'rtog'imning xonasiga ko'chib o'tdim.Yani,hozir adresim yo'q.Registratsiya uchun esa adres so'rashadi.shu sababli univ.ning xati bilan chiqib ketishga qaror qildim.mabodo so'rab qolishsa ko'rsatarman.
hammaga rahmat

[willie]

sorry to bring this up again, but reading thru the posts I couldn't get my questions answered.

Here's my situation:

I'm an on a student visa in US, which has expired some time ago (meaning whenever I leave US, I need to get it re-newed to come back in). My OVIR visa has also expired. In summer, I'm planning to go to Europe, and when coming back to US, I need to get my US visa re-newed from that European country. As far as I know, it's possible to do that (i.e., it doesn't have to be in UZB).

Question:

Will that European country care that my OVIR has expired when I ask them to re-new my US visa?

Or can I even leave US with an expired OVIR visa (and by leave I mean can I go to a country that's not UZB, say Europe)?

Your answers are greatly appreciated! Please help!

Willie

[forex]

willie,
chances are high that you might be denied a US visa in EU.If that happens,you will not be able to go back to the US.US visa regulations state that each person should apply for US visa in his/her country of residence.It also depends on what kind of visa you will be traveling in EU.If it's a tourist visa,I don't even think you will be able to apply for US visa.
Overall,your situation is very risky.If I were you,I wouldn't do such a thing.

sorry to bring this up again, but reading thru the posts I couldn't get my questions answered.

Here's my situation:

I'm an on a student visa in US, which has expired some time ago (meaning whenever I leave US, I need to get it re-newed to come back in). My OVIR visa has also expired. In summer, I'm planning to go to Europe, and when coming back to US, I need to get my US visa re-newed from that European country. As far as I know, it's possible to do that (i.e., it doesn't have to be in UZB).

Question:

Will that European country care that my OVIR has expired when I ask them to re-new my US visa?

Or can I even leave US with an expired OVIR visa (and by leave I mean can I go to a country that's not UZB, say Europe)?

Your answers are greatly appreciated! Please help!

Willie

[Mona Lisa]

sorry to bring this up again, but reading thru the posts I couldn't get my questions answered.

Here's my situation:

I'm an on a student visa in US, which has expired some time ago (meaning whenever I leave US, I need to get it re-newed to come back in). My OVIR visa has also expired. In summer, I'm planning to go to Europe, and when coming back to US, I need to get my US visa re-newed from that European country. As far as I know, it's possible to do that (i.e., it doesn't have to be in UZB).

Question:

Will that European country care that my OVIR has expired when I ask them to re-new my US visa?

Or can I even leave US with an expired OVIR visa (and by leave I mean can I go to a country that's not UZB, say Europe)?

Your answers are greatly appreciated! Please help!

Willie
1. First of all if your OVIR is expired no other country will issue you entry clearance i.e. VISA

2.That leads to second issue, you can't get your US visa either renewed or obtain brand new one

3. If you're on tourist visa or been in Europe for less than 6 month they will not issue you US visa

Please get your OVIR sorted before thinking of getting your vise extended.

[Vector]

Народ, короче тут ситуация:
Друг мой должен менять паспорт и ОВИР, он в англии, если он поменяет паспорт и овир в Ташкенте через родителей (родители его пошлют через почту), будет ли он иметь проблемы когда он вернётся в Ташкент, в паспортном контроле аеропорта, будут ли они спрашивать как ты менял паспорт и овир если ты не был в Таше?
Какие будут последствия, как обойти ето?
Спасибо заранее

[john_nash]

1. First of all if your OVIR is expired no other country will issue you entry clearance i.e. VISA



2.That leads to second issue, you can't get your US visa either renewed or obtain brand new one



3. If you're on tourist visa or been in Europe for less than 6 month they will not issue you US visa



Please get your OVIR sorted before thinking of getting your vise extended.


I think maybe the entry clearance is hard to get, but renewal of the visa (in the hosting country) shouldn't be a problem. Because, only the embassies of those countries are aware of the existing system of OVIR permission: Home office or whatever the institution in USA deals with it, as far as I am aware, they don't know nothing about OVIR, therefore, to get the visa renewed is not a problem.

[Пушкарева]

Pochemu on ne hochet menyat ego v UK thorugh the Uzbek Embassy kak i polagaetsya vo izbejaniye vsyakih nepriyatnostey?


Народ, короче тут ситуация:
Друг мой должен менять паспорт и ОВИР, он в англии, если он поменяет паспорт и овир в Ташкенте через родителей (родители его пошлют через почту), будет ли он иметь проблемы когда он вернётся в Ташкент, в паспортном контроле аеропорта, будут ли они спрашивать как ты менял паспорт и овир если ты не был в Таше?
Какие будут последствия, как обойти ето?
Спасибо заранее

[Sevinch]

Народ, короче тут ситуация:
Друг мой должен менять паспорт и ОВИР, он в англии, если он поменяет паспорт и овир в Ташкенте через родителей (родители его пошлют через почту), будет ли он иметь проблемы когда он вернётся в Ташкент, в паспортном контроле аеропорта, будут ли они спрашивать как ты менял паспорт и овир если ты не был в Таше?
Какие будут последствия, как обойти ето?
Спасибо заранее

A oni sprosili vozmojnoli menyat passport bez vashego druga?
Odnajdi moy sosed reshil pomenyat passport cherez roditeley kotoriy nahoditsya za granicoy.No emu daje nepomenyali pasport i Ovir.Okazivaetsya hozain pasporta doljen prisustvovat.
Nu eto bilo uje neskolko let tomu nazad.Mojet shas zakoni izmenilis.

[Vector]

Pochemu on ne hochet menyat ego v UK thorugh the Uzbek Embassy kak i polagaetsya vo izbejaniye vsyakih nepriyatnostey?

Сделал бы, но проблема в том что он Умидовец, вероятность что они непоменяют паспорт очень велика, он должен поменять в этом месяце, но вернётся домой весной,ему позарез нужен новый паспорт.Через посольство тут говорят несделают даже другим, дадут только 6ти месячный травел документ...

[Vector]

A oni sprosili vozmojnoli menyat passport bez vashego druga?
Odnajdi moy sosed reshil pomenyat passport cherez roditeley kotoriy nahoditsya za granicoy.No emu daje nepomenyali pasport i Ovir.Okazivaetsya hozain pasporta doljen prisustvovat.
Nu eto bilo uje neskolko let tomu nazad.Mojet shas zakoni izmenilis.

Тот закон всё ещё в силе, можно сделать только обходным путём, реалии в Узбекистане позволяют этого, но конечно с расходом, проблема только, не будут-ли проблем во возвращении в Ташкент через паспортный контроль???

[Uzbekxonim]

Тот закон всё ещё в силе, можно сделать только обходным путём, реалии в Узбекистане позволяют этого, но конечно с расходом, проблема только, не будут-ли проблем во возвращении в Ташкент через паспортный контроль???

poverte mne, eti sposobi obhodnih putey obyazatelno auknutsya (otritsatelno), tem bolee vash drug umidovets (dlya nih bol'she prichin pridratsya) i estestvenno chto pasportniy kontrol zainteresuetsya kak eto on tak umudrilsya.

[Uzbekxonim]

Pochemu on ne hochet menyat ego v UK thorugh the Uzbek Embassy kak i polagaetsya vo izbejaniye vsyakih nepriyatnostey?

dorogaya Uzbechka, i'll update you a bit about it. seychas uzb. passporta v posoltah ne menyayutsya i ne vidayutsya, eto mojno sdelat tolko v Uzbekistane.

[Пушкарева]

V US poka yehsyo delayut. Posolstvo v DC menyaet passporta.


dorogaya Uzbechka, i'll update you a bit about it. seychas uzb. passporta v posoltah ne menyayutsya i ne vidayutsya, eto mojno sdelat tolko v Uzbekistane.

[Uzbekxonim]

V US poka yehsyo delayut. Posolstvo v DC menyaet passporta.

danu?:shock: vi uverenni?

[abcd]

danu?:shock: vi uverenni?
Yes they do

[Tokugawa]

Grajdane Uzbekistana v Yaponii toje mogut pomenyat' pasporta ch-z nashe posol'stvo v Tokyo. Zanimayet bol'she 2-h mesyatsev. Mojno sdelat' vmeste s OVIRom. Vsyo zakonno.

danu?:shock: vi uverenni?

[Vector]

dorogaya Uzbechka, i'll update you a bit about it. seychas uzb. passporta v posoltah ne menyayutsya i ne vidayutsya, eto mojno sdelat tolko v Uzbekistane.
Tak kak postupit v etoj situacii emu, any ideas form other members, who faced same situation?

[Uzbekxonim]

Grajdane Uzbekistana v Yaponii toje mogut pomenyat' pasporta ch-z nashe posol'stvo v Tokyo. Zanimayet bol'she 2-h mesyatsev. Mojno sdelat' vmeste s OVIRom. Vsyo zakonno.

a pochemu v evrope ne delayut?:evil: mne v avstrii otkazali, skazali chto nado v uzbekistane delat.

[Пушкарева]

200% - u menya predstoit ta je problema i ya uznavala.

danu?:shock: vi uverenni?

[Tokugawa]

Naverno sdelat' ili ne sdelat' zavisit bol'she ot Konsula - staratel'niy ili net. No gotoviye blanki dlya obmena pasporta i polucheniya viyezdnoi vizi v posol'stvah yest' i po sey den'.

a pochemu v evrope ne delayut?:evil: mne v avstrii otkazali, skazali chto nado v uzbekistane delat.

[Hamid]

a pochemu v evrope ne delayut?:evil: mne v avstrii otkazali, skazali chto nado v uzbekistane delat.
I have renewed my passport through embassy in london, there were some paperwork, and few restrictions, they don't renew it for everyone, you have to be a student in an accredited college or university, or someone here who is sent by government.
Talk to them, explain that everybody in the world doing it, germany (see Asadbek), Japan (Tokugawa), UK (me) USA (can't give you references).


hh

[Uzbekxonim]

kak raz bu weekend Viennaga boraman, elchihonaga borib talab qilaman.
hamma javoblaringiz uchun rahmatlar.:)

[Bonik]

kak raz bu weekend Viennaga boraman, elchihonaga borib talab qilaman.
hamma javoblaringiz uchun rahmatlar.:)

Uzbekhonum,

Uzbek konsuli Uzb- OVIRiga zapros qiladi. Zaprosni otrabotka qilish vaqti har hil bo'lishi mumkin maksimum 2 oy. Lekin konsul akamizni hursand qilsangiz tezroq qilishni iloji bor :) yani 2 haftada.

[Uzbekxonim]

Uzbekhonum,

Uzbek konsuli Uzb- OVIRiga zapros qiladi. Zaprosni otrabotka qilish vaqti har hil bo'lishi mumkin maksimum 2 oy. Lekin konsul akamizni hursand qilsangiz tezroq qilishni iloji bor :) yani 2 haftada.

undan ko'ra toshkentga borib uerdigilarni hursand qilay (maoshi kichkinaroq), konsulning maoshi yetib turadi unga;)

maslahatingiz uchun rahmat. hudo hohlasa, toshkentga borib qildiraman.