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Sigma
07-28-2005, 10:01 AM
Today there were news about possible resettlement of uzbek refugees in some undisclosed western country. Good cause, however WHY TURKISH GOVERNMENT DOES NOT OFFER ANY LOCATION TO SETTLE THOSE TURCIC PEOPLE? Is it some kind of brotherly love or just ignorance?

oğuz
07-28-2005, 10:12 AM
Vatandaş rıza'nın yazdıklarını Türkçe'ye çevirebilecek bir kızılay'cı aranıyor;)

oğuz
07-28-2005, 11:08 AM
Yokmu:shock: bu ikinci

Bilge_Kagan
07-28-2005, 11:43 AM
Ozbek multecilerin gizli bir bati ulkesine yerlesmesiyle ilgili bir haber var.Neden Turkiye Turklere kalacak yer vermiyor ? Bu bir tur kardes sevgisi mi yoksa gormezden gelme mi ?

Gibi birsey olmasi lazim... ( Basak tesekkurler :) )

oğuz
07-28-2005, 11:45 AM
Ozbek multecilerin gizli bir bati ulkesine yerlesmesiyle ilgili bir haber var.Neden Turkiye Turklere kalacak yer vermiyor ? Bu bir tur kardes sevgisi mi yoksa gormezden gelme mi ?

Gibi birsey olmasi lazim... ( Basak tesekkurler :) )

Anladıysam arap olim demicem...kesinlikle;)

Torcoman
07-28-2005, 04:45 PM
i didnt heard any act about that, there is no movement, i think you mean illegal human transporting people,if you mean that, they will be returned their countries by internatioal cops.

theres so many people like that, even turkey turks arresting in italy and send back to turkey, every non-europian nation has a problem about it.

Aybike
07-28-2005, 05:28 PM
i didnt heard any act about that, there is no movement, i think you mean illegal human transporting people,if you mean that, they will be returned their countries by internatioal cops.

theres so many people like that, even turkey turks arresting in italy and send back to turkey, every non-europian nation has a problem about it.

evet çoğuda zaten italya sahillerine ulaşamadan batıyor..garipler..aralarında bebeklerde var..içim acıyor..Allah akıl versin ne diyeyim..taşıyanada,kaçanada.
başka yolu olmalı bu kurtuluşun :evil: Kızıyorum.....

Sigma
07-30-2005, 02:41 PM
I was curious about people from Andijan. There were some 440 refugees who fled bullets of the uzbek army. So I askd why Turkish government did not interfere and offer some place to settle them probably in Turkey. There was no question about illegal immigrants whatsoever.
However, those people already have been offered places among western countries, namely Romania, Switzerland, Chech Republic, former Yugolasiva, Canada, USA, Australia. And not even one muslim or turcic country. How sad and pathetic. What a shame.

asena
07-30-2005, 02:47 PM
I was curious about people from Andijan. There were some 440 refugees who fled bullets of the uzbek army. So I askd why Turkish government did not interfere and offer some place to settle them probably in Turkey. There was no question about illegal immigrants whatsoever.
However, those people already have been offered places among western countries, namely Romania, Switzerland, Chech Republic, former Yugolasiva, Canada, USA, Australia. And not even one muslim or turcic country. How sad and pathetic. What a shame.

Problem is not only location,but also jobs,and Turkey has problem with people without jobs,already.

Romania, Switzerland, Chech Republic, former Yugolasiva, Canada, USA, Australia....

canada,USA,switzerlan and Australia will probably send them back whenever these people will finish their money(a kind of usage of the externak money)
Romania,Chech Republic, former Yugolasiva is already sending immigrants to other european countries,as prostitutes and woman sellers.So these people won't find any hope at these countries.
I am working as a consulant at Italy's foreigners' department.So I know the procedure.If people don't find a regular job in 3 months,they are sended back.

Sigma
07-30-2005, 02:59 PM
Asena, not in this case. They are regarded formal refugees by the United Nations refugee convention. And even if they are sent back, which is very doubtful because thier case is very extreme, other country will be asked for resettlement. Regarding sending back; those countries who signed UN humanitarian conventions will not do that. Moreover, UN has requested willing countries to take those people, no enforcement. What you are talking about is economic immigrants with no legal status as refugees.

Torcoman
07-30-2005, 03:30 PM
I was curious about people from Andijan. There were some 440 refugees who fled bullets of the uzbek army. So I askd why Turkish government did not interfere and offer some place to settle them probably in Turkey. There was no question about illegal immigrants whatsoever.
However, those people already have been offered places among western countries, namely Romania, Switzerland, Chech Republic, former Yugolasiva, Canada, USA, Australia. And not even one muslim or turcic country. How sad and pathetic. What a shame.

you are right, it was a shame.
those people should be under control in another way, killing people must be the last way. But extrimist Islamic countrie idea should be the last idea to think in this planet. I wish one day Turkic people will think about the great idea "turan"

asena
07-30-2005, 03:33 PM
I sais,I am consultant at that department.

There are 3 types of immigration.Political,economical and business.But when a country accepts any of the above,they want the immigrant to work at his country,or any of his relative living at the regarding country formally,and is ready to pay any damage done by him.Otherwise that person will rob or kill someone to live!They give 3 months for economcal reasons,they give no limit if that person presents about 100 thousand euros in case of using it at a business at the regarding country(and he accepts to find workers never foreigners),and maximum 1 year for political reasons.After this period,if that person is not workin still,he should turn back to his country.