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Abu Hurayra
09-23-2005, 03:07 PM
:salam:
This thread is focused on Men Problem „Hijamat“ (blood letting),Because of their creation Women(they have already blood circulation and purification with their “days”) don’t need to do it.
Today I spoke to one brother in Islam and we discussed this matter. I asked him If he could help me with doing Hijamat (after I heart that he expierenced and learned from another brother).
Now I read some articles on net.But I wanted also to hear from our Forum Uz members about it as I am practicing it for the first time in my life.
If someone has already did it please share with us your opinions and expierence!
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Bu thread asosan Erkaklarga tegishli bo’lgan muammo Hijamat(qon oldirish),chunki Ayollar uzlarining yaratilingan ayolllik hususiyatlari tufayli qon oldirishga hojattlari yuq(Shundog’ ham ular o’zlarinig “Uzrli” kunlarida sabab qonlari aylanib tozalanib turadi).
Bugun bir brodar bilan shu masala haqida gaplashhganimda,Hijamat ni qila olishini aytgandi.Men Undan bu ishda menga yordam berishini suragandim rozi bo’ldi, 2 kundan keyin qilishim kerak,Bu qon oldirishni birinchi marta qilayatganligim uchun sizlardan maslahat so’rayapman. Amalda biror kishi bu ishni qilgan bo’lsa aytib O’tinglar.
Yaqin yaqingacha odamlar bunda Zuluk dan foydalanib keladilar,zulukni umurtqa pag’onasi,oyoq,tizza orqasi kabi joylarga quyadilar,Bu ishni qorin ochligida qilish tavsiya qilingan ekan hadislarda.
Qon qoldirish-Erkak kishining har hil badan qismlarida uyushib qolgan yomon qonlar bunda chiqib ketarkan,Insonning ma'lum bir uzoqroq vaqt bu borada kasalliklarga yo'liqmasligiga sababchi bularkan....
http://www.science4islam.com/pic/med-16-1.jpg
Related article:
The prophet Mohammed PBUH SAID How good the blood letter who relief’s the person from bad blood dries up the swelling importers eye sight Refer Termini It is said that the prophet PBUH has under gone blood letting paid for the blood letter Refer to Bookman Muslim. The modern scenic diseases blood problems some types of liver disc overed that blood letting can cure some types of heart diseases blood problems some types of liver diseases. When the lungs get congested due to decline in heat beating when all medication mean such as dieresis tying up of hands and legs to reduce the inflow of blood towards the heart fail then letting blood out by the process of blood letting may proof effective curing the decline in heart beating. Moreover in case of sudden in crease in blood pressure which may be accompanied by semi comma condition the inab ility to recognize time place than blood letting may proof effective in curing it some cases of liver diseases such as liver damage which does not respond to other medication measures can be cured by blood letting. Some blood diseases such as increase in crease in the quan tity of the hemoglobin may require treat ment by blood letting so that to avoid any side effects. It is important to mention that the numbers of red cells increase with those who lire in high mount aneous areas where there is some times shortage of Oregon It may be caused also by excessive heat which in states sweat glands conseq gently incases also the numbers of red cells. Therefore to restore the numbers of hemoglobin number of red cells it is a dried to adop blood letting measure. The prophet Mohammed by blood letting. He says how good is medication by blood letting.
related Islamic medicine links:
http://www.islamic-knowledge.com/Medicine.htm
http://www.science4islam.com/html/med-16e.html
http://www.islamicmedicine.org/
http://www.imana.org/mc/page.do
in turkish:
http://www.kanbankasi.com/bilgi/islam.htm
:salam:
haqlarizga hardoim duoda bo'lib qoluvchi brodaringiz....
Abu Hurayra
04-23-2006, 12:18 PM
Assalamu Alaikum,
After this post in september,For some reasons I could not do Hijamat.
Today Morning After fajr Prayers One Brother said me that he was planning to do Hijamat for another brother.
Than I asked him if he could help me in doing Hijamat too.(He said ok).
at first I had a fear(a normal humanbeing fear). Than I calmed myself by remembering those hadithes about Hijamat.
My brother took blood from both of my shoulders. It took 15-20 minutes. After than I felt very fresh, I had little hunger. after going home I slept a little and than had a breakfast. All the day I felt very fresh as never...
Someone does not mix this Hijamat with blood letting from veins. From veins you give fresh blood. But Hijamat is very different one.In hijamat you let your bad bloods.
Resently Medics had discovered that the composition of Mens blood that is let by Hijamat is similar to the blood of women in menstruation.
Shortly I recommend to allbrothers to perform this Sunnah-Hijamat!
Assalamu Aleykum
Note:In my case cupping process was the same like this:
Manda ham Hijomat(Yomon qonimni oldirganimda)shunday bo'ldi:
Rulings of the cupping therapy (Hijama):
http://www.islammessage.com/hajj/e/images/hejama1.jpg
1- Authentic hadeeth prove that the Messenger salla Allah a`lyhee wa sallam used cupping therapy while in Ehram. In a narration reported by Bukhari he had cupping therapy while fasting.
2- Hijama is a type of medicine, however, we can not call it a Sunnah. But it may be sought if needed.
3- It is permissible to use Hijamah on parts of the body that will not require hair removal such as on the back, feet, or shoulders.
4- It is still permissible to use Hijamah on parts of the body where hair removal is necessary such as on the head based on the Messenger’s salla Allah a`lyhee wa sallam situation who had it on his head and in another narration in the middle of his head. Yet he didn’t make a ransom neither did he instruct with so. Based on this, it stands as a daleel for using it.
http://www.islammessage.com/hajj/e/images/hejama2.jpg
5- Therefore one in Ehram may use Hijama if needed.
6- A woman just exactly as the man is allowed to seek Hijama while in Ehram. However, only a male Mahram (non marriageable) must perform it.
7- All hadeeth that assign certain days or months to perform Hijama are not valid to regulate the operation.
http://www.islammessage.com/hajj/e/images/hejama3.jpg
http://www.islammessage.com/hajj/e/25.htm
My advice - go to blood donor place. Not only will you let your blood out, but also someone who desperately needs it will benefit from it.
IMHO,
Delf.
Abu Hurayra
04-23-2006, 03:06 PM
My advice - go to blood donor place. Not only will you let your blood out, but also someone who desperately needs it will benefit from it.
IMHO,
Delf.
Delf It seems you did not even read what I have written in my first and second posts here.
It is not fresh Blood:
This blood is as useless as the blood of the women in their periods.;)
PS: advice to read before posting!
Royal
04-23-2006, 05:55 PM
Mazlum
Hamma ishniyam oz qonun qoidasi bor oz vaqtlarida hozirgi kundagidek hamma yoq har hil viruslaru mikroblar bilan tolib toshgan emasdi....
Ehtoyot bolish kerak...
Abu Hurayra
04-23-2006, 05:59 PM
Mazlum
Hamma ishniyam oz qonun qoidasi bor oz vaqtlarida hozirgi kundagidek hamma yoq har hil viruslaru mikroblar bilan tolib toshgan emasdi....
Ehtoyot bolish kerak...
Aha to'g'ri aytingiz,
Bu ishni biladiganlar, Meditsinadan habari bor, tajribali kishilar
barcha Gigiyenik qoidalarga amal qilgan holda qilishi kerak.
To'g'ri kelgan kishi qilmasligi kerak.(qilmaydi aksariyat hollarda)
hurmat bilan Mazlum!
~Atirgul~
04-23-2006, 06:12 PM
Menimcha unaqa muolajani sizdek yoshingizda qilinishga uncha zaruriyati yoq deb uylayman. SIzning organizimiz hali yosh, yosh organizmda moddalar almashinuvi yahshi bu'ladi va unaqa zaharli qonning yig'ilib qolishi ehtimoli bulmasa kerak.
Abu Hurayra
04-23-2006, 06:15 PM
Menimcha unaqa muolajani sizdek yoshingizda qilinishga uncha zaruriyati yoq deb uylayman. SIzning organizimiz hali yosh, yosh organizmda moddalar almashinuvi yahshi bu'ladi va unaqa zaharli qonning yig'ilib qolishi ehtimoli bulmasa kerak.
Mayli PM da batafsil javob beraman
Zararli qonlar, yomon qonlar Inson Balog'at yoshiga yetgandan keyin yig'ilaveradi...;)
PS: YOshimni qaerdan bildingiz :shock: :)
~Atirgul~
04-23-2006, 06:17 PM
Qonni yana Zulaklar yordamida tozalashadi, Zulakni badanga quysa u badanda yigilib qolgan yomon qonni su'rib tashlaydi, faqat Zulaklani aptekada sotvolish kerak (ular tozza bulishi kerak, aks holda infekciyalani kiritib quyishi mumkin agar kir bulsa).
~Atirgul~
04-23-2006, 06:19 PM
[PS: YOshimni qaerdan bildingiz :shock: :)[/quote]
YOshingizni tahmin qildim, menimcha tahminan 23 lada bu'lsangiz kerak:)
Abu Hurayra
04-23-2006, 06:33 PM
Qonni yana Zulaklar yordamida tozalashadi, Zulakni badanga quysa u badanda yigilib qolgan yomon qonni su'rib tashlaydi, faqat Zulaklani aptekada sotvolish kerak (ular tozza bulishi kerak, aks holda infekciyalani kiritib quyishi mumkin agar kir bulsa).
To'g'ri eskidan Ota bobolarimiz zuluklar yordamida bu Sunnatni qilishardi.
Lekin Zuluklar bilan qonlarini tozalashlarini Ba'zi bir o'sha paytdagi Savodlilarbuni-Yovvoyilik-Savodsizlikka chiqarishgan.
(Vaholanki yaqin yaqinda buning sirini G'arbliklar kashf etishib, hamma erkaklar(sog'ligini uylagan) blood cuppingga shoshayapti.)
Sovet davrida juda ham kam kishi buni eslab, amal qilib kelgan.Hozirda to'g'risini aytsak odamlarning xayolida yo'q!. Yana bir bor aytaman buni Vena dan qol oldirish bilan aralashtirmang!(Vena dagi qon toza qon)
Hozir masalan Yevropadan zuluk topish amrimahol ;)
Infeksiya borasida Royalning postlarida javob berib o'tgandim ;)
hurmat bilan Mazlum
Royal
04-24-2006, 10:43 AM
Mayli PM da batafsil javob beraman
Zararli qonlar, yomon qonlar Inson Balog'at yoshiga yetgandan keyin yig'ilaveradi...;)
PS: YOshimni qaerdan bildingiz :shock: :)
heh
Mazlum
Uylanganizdan keyin unaqa qonlardan bir tomchiyam qomiydi...
hojati bomiydi..
Abu Hurayra
04-24-2006, 05:52 PM
heh
Mazlum
Uylanganizdan keyin unaqa qonlardan bir tomchiyam qomiydi...
hojati bomiydi..
Assalomu Aleykum Royal,
Forum uz'ga kirmoqchi emasdim, lekin bir sunnat haqida insonlarda salbiy- noto'g'ri tushuncha paydo bo'lmasligini uylab ushbu javobni qoldirayapman.
Shaxsiyatimga tegayapti deb uylamang!
Bir gap aytganda biror bir hujjatga asoslanib gapirishga o'rganaylik,Ayniqsa Bu gap Islom ahkomlari, Payg'ambarimizni Sunnatlari haqida bo'lsa. Bilib bilmay sunnatni inkor qilib qo'ymaylik. Alloh o'zi Shaytondagi kibr va qaysarlikdan saqlasin. Qur'on va Hadisga asoslanib aytilgan haq gap kelganda Kibrlanib, Qaysarlik qilib bilmay holda gunohkor bo'lmaylik!
Yuqorida ba'zilar buni noto'g'ri tushunib o'tirishibdi. Yana bir bor aytamiz bu qon toza qon emas. Hech qanaqa "Doner" likga yaramaydi. Erkak kishining tana 'azolarining bazi qismlarida uyushib qolgan yomon qonlardir. Yuqorida Buhaqda aytib o'tgandik.
"Uylangandan keyin bunaqa qonlardan bir tomchi ham qolmiydi" kabi so'zlar asossiz. Balkim uylangandan keyin Erkak kishining bel suvi tez almashinib turadi. Lekin Yomon qonlari hech qayerdan chiqib ketmaydi. Venadan qon oldiraman desangiz u yerdagi qon toza qon bo'lganligi uchun hech qanaqa ma'no chiqmaydi (Ya'ni yomon ,uyushib qolgan qonlaringiz o'sha joylarida turganligicha turaveradi).
Insonni Qon tomir tizimiga nazar solsangiz 3 ta asosiy (Arteriya,Vena,Ingichka qon tomirchalar(Kapilyarlar) )tomirlardan asosan kishining Bosh,Yelka,Bel,Oyoq qismlarida joylashgan Ingichka qon tomirlarida yomon qonlar uyushib qoladi.Bunday yomon qonlar Ayol kishilarda ularning tanalarining tabbiy xususiyatlari tufayli ular xoxlasa xoxlamasa tegishli kunlarda chiqib ketadi. Erkak kishida esa bunaqa tabiiy xususiyat yo'q.
Shuning uchun bunday qon oldirish hoh uylangan-uylanmagan Erkak zoti uchun juda foydalidir va bu Birinchi navbatta Payg'ambarimizning sunnatlaridir.
Zero Payg'ambarimiz saw Turmush qurgan paytlarida Hijomatni tark etmaganlar. Hatto 40 yoshlaridan keyin har 40 kunda bir marta Hijomat qilganlar,vaholanki u kishining ahli ayollari 3-4 tadan ko'p edi!
Õèæîìàíèíã ôîéäàñè:
Õèæîìàíèíãêàäèìäàõàì, õîçèðäàõàì, æóäàêóïõàñòàëèêëàðäàíäàâîëàíèøäàñåçèëàðëèôàéäàñèáî ðýêàíëèãèíèàìàëäàòàæðèáàáèëàíêóðèëãàíëèãèñèðýìàñ.
Êóéèäàãèëàðõèæîìààìàëèéðàâèøäàêóëëàíèá, ÀëëîõÒàúîëîíèíãèçíèáèëàíôîéäàñèêóçàòèëãàíõàñòàëèêë àðäèð.
1 – Êîí àéëàíèø îðãàíëàðèäàãè õàñòàëèê.
2 – Êîí áîñèìè, þðàê õàñòàëèêëàðè.
3 – Êóêðàê îãðèãè, íàôàñ êèñèøè.
4 – Áîø âà êóç îãðèêëàðè.
5 – Áóéèíäàãè, êîðèí áóøëèãèäàãè îãðèêëàð õàìäà ìóñêóëëàðäàãè áîä (ðåìàòèçì) êàñàëëèêëàðè.
6 – Áàúçè òóðäàãè þðàê, êóêðàê õàñòàëèêëàðè õàìäà áóãèíëàðäàãè îãðèêëàð âà õîêàçî...
ßíà áèð òîìîíè øóíäàêè, áàúçè õîëàòëàðäà õèæîìàãà àòðîôäàí áîøêà íàðñàëàð (äîðè-äàðìîíëàð) êóøèì÷à êèëèíìàãàí õîëàòäà õàì, ó ¸ëãèç óçè õàì æóäà ôîéäàëèê áóëèá, îãðèêíè åíãèëëàøòèðàäè.
Õèæîìàíèíã ôîéäàëàðè õàêèäà êóïðîê ìàúëóìîò îëèø ó÷óí Èáí àë-Êàééèìíèíã ″Çîäóë-Ìàúîä″, Èáðîõèì àë-Õîçèéìèéíèíã ″Õèæîìàíèíã õóêì âà ôîéäàëàðè″ íîìëè êèòîáëàðèãà ìóðîæààò ýòèëñèí.
http://www.islamnuri.com/jumanas/hijoma.htm (http://www.islamnuri.com/jumanas/hijoma.htm)
References about Hijamat in English:
Praise be to Allaah.
The rulings of Islam were revealed from Allaah, and Allaah has decreed that this religion is the final religion, and that our Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) is the last of the Prophets. Allaah sent him to all of mankind and made the Qur’aan His miraculous Book until the Day of Resurrection. The Sunnah of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) is also revelation from Allaah.
It is no wonder that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) told us of things that were revealed to him from his Lord, and these include information about scientific matters that were unknown at that time. This is a miracle which serves as proof that he is a true Prophet. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) was not a doctor but he told of some things that have been confirmed by modern medicine to be true. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) did not have laboratories or x-rays, but he spoke of things which mankind did not know to be true until after they were tested in laboratories and seen under microscopes.
There are many examples of that, but this is not the place to discuss it in detail. Here we will limit our comments to cupping. We have already spoken of cupping and some of its benefits in the answer to question no. 21406 (http://63.175.194.25/index.php?ln=eng&ds=qa&lv=browse&QR=21406&dgn=3).
What is cupping?
Cupping means letting out bad blood that is beneath the skin.
It is a kind of medical treatment:
It was narrated from Ibn ‘Abbaas that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Healing is in three things: in the incision of the cupper, in drinking honey and in cauterizing with fire, but I forbid my ummah (followers) to use cauterization.”
Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 5356.
It was narrated that Jaabir ibn ‘Abd-Allaah (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: I heard the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say: “If there is anything good in your medical treatments, it is in the incision of the cupper, drinking honey or in touching with fire when there is certainty that this will cure the disease, but I do not like to be cauterized.”
Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 5359; Muslim, 2205
The angels advised the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and his ummah to use cupping.
The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “I did not pass by any group of angels on the night of the Isra’ [the Prophet’s night journey when he was taken from Makkah to Jerusalem and back in the course of a single night], but all of them said to me, “You should use cupping, O Muhammad.”
Classed as saheeh by Shaykh al-Albaani in al-Silsilah al-Saheehah, 2263.
Our Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) was treated by means of cupping:
It was narrated from Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) was treated with cupping when he was in ihraam [a special state of devotion at the time of pilgrimage to Makkah], and he was treated with cupping when he was fasting.
Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 1836.
Some of his companions stated that he was treated with cupping for a pain in the head, i.e. a “migraine”.
It was narrated from Ibn ‘Abbaas that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) was treated with cupping in his head for pain when he was in ihraam, at an oasis called Lahi Jamal.
And it was narrated from him that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) was treated with cupping on his head when he was in ihraam for a migraine that he was suffering.
Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 5374.
It was narrated from Ibn Buhaynah that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) was treated with cupping on the way to Makkah when he was in ihraam, in the middle of his head.
Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 1739; Muslim, 1203.
Lahi Jamal is a place on the way to Makkah.
Abu Hurayra
04-24-2006, 06:00 PM
References about Hijamat in English (continued):
His companions were treated with cupping and they recommended it:
Muslim (2205) narrated that ‘Aasim ibn ‘Umar ibn Qataadah said:
Jaabir ibn ‘Abd-Allaah came to us and there was a man suffering from an abscess or a wound. He said, “What is wrong with you?” He said, “An abscess that is causing me pain.” He said, “O boy, bring me a cupper.” He said, “What will you do with a cupper, O Abu ‘Abd-Allaah?” He said, “I want to apply a cupping glass to him.” He said, “By Allaah, even if the flies land on me it hurts me, or if my garment touches me it hurts me.” When he saw how reluctant he was, he said, “I heard the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say, ‘If there is anything good in your medical treatments, it is in the incision of the cupper, drinking honey or in touching with fire.’ And the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: ‘But I would not like to be cauterized.’” Then he brought the cupper and made the incision, and his problem went away.
Recommendation of cupping on certain days of the month
It was narrated that Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The best days for cupping are the seventeenth, nineteenth and twenty first [of the months of the Islamic Hijri calendar]. I did not pass by any group of angels on the night of the Isra’ [the Prophet’s night journey when he was taken from Makkah to Jerusalem and back in the course of a single night], but all of them said to me, “You should use cupping, O Muhammad.”
Narrated by Ahmad, 3306. Classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in al-Silsilah al-Saheehah, 1847.
Recommendation to avoid cupping on certain days of the week
What the questioner has read on our site appears in the book, “Things which are forbidden according to sharee’ah (http://63.175.194.25/books/manhiat/english.html).”
It was narrated that Ibn ‘Umar said: The Messenger of Allaah (S) said: “Cupping on an empty stomach is better, and there is healing and barakah (blessing) in it. It improves clarity of mind and the memory. So use cupping with the blessing of Allaah on Thursdays, and avoid cupping on Wednesdays, Fridays, Saturdays and Sundays, and use cupping on Mondays and Tuesdays, for that is the day when Allaah relieved Ayyoob (Job) of his afflictions, and He smote him with those afflictions on a Wednesday. So no leprosy begins except on a Wednesday or the night of Wednesday.”
Narrated by Ibn Maajah, 3487. Classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in al-Silsilah al-Saheehah, 766.
Cupping in modern medicine
Modern medicine has proven that cupping brings many benefits, and numerous books have been written about that, such as al-Dawa’ al-‘Ajeeb alladi shafa min Marad al-Qalb al-Qaatil wa’l-Shalal wa’l-Shaqeeqah wa’l-‘Uqum wa’l-Sarataan wa Marad al-Naa’oor al-Waraathi al-Haemophilia (The Amazing Cure that may heal fatal heart disease, paralysis, migraine, infertility, cancer and the genetic disease haemophilia). This is the most recent and most important book that has been published recently by the researcher ‘Abd al-Qaadir Yahya, which deals with the science of cupping.
This book is regarded as a scientific reference and medical dictionary that is unique in the world because of its excellent explanations and scientific evidence. It is divided into 12 chapters, covering 500 pages.
In the last chapter, he quotes clinical reports on the condition of some patients who recovered or whose condition improved with the application of cupping, by comparing the reports on their sickness before cupping and after cupping was applied. He also quotes the testimony of opinions of members of the Syrian medical team who took part in the research on cupping, who numbered 25 clinical and laboratory experts.
Details of the physical benefits of cupping
1 – Modern science has proven that cupping may be a cure for some heart diseases, some blood diseases and some liver diseases. In cases where the lungs have become swollen because of heart failure, when all means of treatment such as use of diuretics, tying the hands and feet to reduce the flow of blood to the heart have failed, releasing some of the blood by opening a vein may be essential, to bring about a rapid recovery from heart failure. Similarly in the event of a sudden rise in blood pressure accompanied by semi-consciousness and a loss of awareness of time and place, or accompanied by unconsciousness as a result of the sudden increase in blood pressure, releasing some of the blood by opening a vein may be a treatment for such cases. Similarly, for some liver diseases such as cirrhosis there may be no effective remedy apart from releasing some of the blood by opening a vein. There are also some blood diseases which are distinguished by overproduction of red blood cells and a high ratio of haemoglobin in the blood, which require releasing some of the blood by opening a vein, which is the most effective treatment in such cases, so as to avoid further complications. It is worth mentioning that an increase in red blood cells may be the result of living in the mountains at high altitude and a low ratio of oxygen in the air, or it may be the result of intense heat that has an obvious effect of increasing glandular excretions, which leads to an increase in the number of red blood cells. So releasing some of the blood by opening a vein is the appropriate treatment in such cases. Hence the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The best of the remedies that you use is cupping.” Narrated by Ahmad, 11634; classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in al-Silsilah al-Saheehah, 1053. This is a view which is approved by science, as has recently been confirmed by scientific research.
Ref: al-‘I’jaaz al-‘Ilmi fi’l-Islam wa’l-Sunnah al-Nabawiyyah, by Muhammad Kaamil ‘Abd al-Samad.
It should be noted that the author used the word fasd (opening a vein, venesection) instead of hijaamah (cupping). It is well known that there is a difference between the two. Fasd (opening a vein) means taking blood from the veins, which is more like having a blood sample taken, and cupping means removing bad blood from beneath the skin.
2 – Ibn al-Qayyim al-Jawziyyah – who was well-versed in medicine – said:
Cupping on the upper back helps to relieve pain in the shoulder and throat. Cupping on the veins on the side of the neck is beneficial in relieving diseases of the head and its parts such as the face, teeth, ears and eyes (and the nose and throat if applicable) which are caused by an excess of blood or corruption thereof, or by both.
Zaad al-Ma’aad, 4/55, 56
Al-Tirmidhi (2051) narrated that Anas said: The Messenger of Allaah (S) used to have cupping done on the veins on the side of the neck and the upper back.
We ask Allaah to make this answer beneficial for you, and we ask Allaah to open your heart to the truth and make it easy for you to do that which He loves and is pleased with.
And Allaah knows best.
http://www.islamweb.net/ver2/archive/article.php?lang=E&id=47483 (http://www.islamweb.net/ver2/archive/article.php?lang=E&id=47483)
http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503544472 (http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503544472)
http://www.fatwa.org.za/documents/Medical/cupping/Virtues%20and%20benefits%20of%20cupping%20-%20Islam%20Q&A.htm (http://www.fatwa.org.za/documents/Medical/cupping/Virtues%20and%20benefits%20of%20cupping%20-%20Islam%20Q&A.htm)
http://www.sunnah.org/ibadaat/fasting/ascen3.htm (http://www.sunnah.org/ibadaat/fasting/ascen3.htm)
hurmat va ehtirom bilan Mazlum
Assalomu Aleykum
Delf It seems you did not even read what I have written in my first and second posts here.
It is not fresh Blood:
This blood is as useless as the blood of the women in their periods.;)
PS: advice to read before posting!
That's exactly what I am talking about: you and I are not doctors. So I gave you a friendly advice to go to a blood donor place where they will give you a consultation about the issue.
Besides, majority of us will probably need donor blood within our lifetime and blood donation is a noble task.
Best wishes,
Delf.
PALESTINE
05-02-2006, 04:02 AM
salam,
one of my friends took the master degree later on in the natural medicine, and his message was about -hijamah-, and assured the great medical results of this medical way, and he authored abook about it .
and this way also gave effective results against several diseases .
Regards >>
I have done taking the blood off from the back of my head many years ago because I used to have frequent headaches and cannot be under the sun too long. The guy said to come back if there is pain after three days, three months or three years. Fortunately, I have never felt any pain after that and became better. The thing I want to mention was that he made a slit at the back of the head attached the instrument and pumped the bad blood out. It came to about half a cup. During the pumping, there was a slight pain but when I went home to wash my hair there was no pain whatsoever. Amazing.
I want you to know that women do it too, sometimes cupping on the body.
Shokirbek
11-03-2007, 01:37 PM
Hijoma haqida o'zbekcha ma'lumot topolmadim..
Ruscha saytlardan birida ushbu (http://www.islam.ru/science/hijma/)ma'lumotlarni beribdi..
Bundan 3 yil muqaddam birinchi bor hijoma qildirgan edim.. O'shanda hijomadan keyin o'zimni qushday sezganman.. Oradan 3 yil o'tib, mana ikki kun ilgari - payshanba kuni 21-shavvolda yana hijoma qildirdim, alhamdulillah.. Albatta, hijomani do'xtirlar, tabiblar bilan maslahatlashgan holda o'zida qon ortiqligini sezgan kishilar, qon olinganda ahvoli yaxshilanadigan ba'zi kishilar qildirishi kerak..
Hijoma qiladigan asboblarning rasmi:
http://www.luqt.com/images/IMAG0054.JPG
Hijoma qilinadigan o'rinlardan biri:
http://www.roqyah.com/images/hegama/3.JPG
AbdurRahman
11-03-2007, 03:00 PM
as salaamu 'alaikum. Men ham ancha oldin 3-4 marta hijoma qildirganman. mashaAllaah, qildirgandan keyin doimo o'zimni yengil his qilganman.
Hijomaning foydalari haqida ham hadislarda keltirilgan ekan.
Yana qiziqarli tomoni shundaki, menda doimo migraine(qattiq bosh og'riq) bo'lib turardi.. dorilar ham ta'sir qilmasdi.. ma'lumki agar migrane qattiq bo'lsa doktorlar ko'pincha og'riqni sezdirmaydigan dorilarni ichishni aytishadi.
Ammo 3-4 marta hijoma qilinganidan keyin Allohning qudrati bilan u migraine umuman yo'q bo'lib ketdi, alhamdulillah
hamda hijomaning bosh og'riqga ham foydalari haqida Muhammad sallallahu alayhi wa sallam hadislarida ham keltirilgan ekan..
http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=SalafSalih&p=r
shu yerdagi linkda (pastroqda) Shayx Musa Nasr(Alboniy shogirdlaridan) ning Hijomaning sunnatlarini amaliy ravishda ko'rsatib bergan 5-6 qismlik videolari bor ekan.
ferghaner
11-04-2007, 12:06 PM
Shokir akaga kotta rahmat, man oldin bu narsa haqida hech eshitmagan ekanman, hotya dorisiz uz sogligiga yaxshi qarashning kup narsalaridan habarim bor. Agar shu HIJOMA haqida Ibn-Sino ning ham qarashlari busa, bilganlar share qilsa rosa hursand bulardik. oldindan kotta rahmat.
PS. bu narsanizarari ham bulishi mumkinmi insonga? umuman olganda man qoni kup odamlardanman, just curiousity.
Borz_man
11-04-2007, 05:38 PM
Shokir akaga kotta rahmat, man oldin bu narsa haqida hech eshitmagan ekanman, hotya dorisiz uz sogligiga yaxshi qarashning kup narsalaridan habarim bor. Agar shu HIJOMA haqida Ibn-Sino ning ham qarashlari busa, bilganlar share qilsa rosa hursand bulardik. oldindan kotta rahmat.
PS. bu narsanizarari ham bulishi mumkinmi insonga? umuman olganda man qoni kup odamlardanman, just curiousity.
Idn Sino hijomani juda ko'p kassaliklarga qo'llaganlar,buni Ibn Sinoning O'zbekchaga tarjima qilingan kitobida ham ko'p yozilgan.
P.S. Birinchi bor Hijomani tahminan 10 yil oldin olganman.Olishimdan so'ng
boshning vaznini umuman sezmaganman.Undan oldin ko'p yillar bosh ogriq
kasaligi bilan qiynalganman. Mdetsina qo'llanmalaridan ko'p foydalanganman.
Ammo Allohim shifoni nimada yashirganini faqat o'zi bilarkan.
Bilib bizga Rahmat qilib Quron va Sunnatda bildiribham qo'ygan.
Shundan keyin hijomani ko'p oladigan bo'ldim,hozirda esa
yana shu amalni qaytarishga yahshi eslatma berdila.
Jazakumullohu hoyron kasiron..
NanOnaN
11-04-2007, 11:31 PM
Men yaqinda Kores tanishim shunaqa qilip otirganini koruvdim. Ungacha unuman eshitmaganman bu haqida.
Korinishidan, qonli procedura boganiga sal qonlim g'ash boldi.
Bita savol bu muolaja jarayonida ogriq seziladimi? Sezilsa qay darajada, qatiqmi sekinmi?
Shokirbek
11-05-2007, 12:05 AM
Men yaqinda Kores tanishim shunaqa qilip otirganini koruvdim. Ungacha unuman eshitmaganman bu haqida.
Korinishidan, qonli procedura boganiga sal qonlim g'ash boldi.
Bita savol bu muolaja jarayonida ogriq seziladimi? Sezilsa qay darajada, qatiqmi sekinmi?
Olmos (lezviye) bilan (bir aylana ichida 10-15 yerga 1.5-2mm qilib) kesishdan ilgari o'sha joydan hijoma asbobi (kichkina bankachalar) yordamida havo so'rib olinib, qon to'planadi.. Keyin 5-10 min. o'tgandan keyin bankachalar olinib yuqoridagidek kesilganda deyarli og'riq sezmaysiz..
Gareeb
11-05-2007, 08:59 AM
Tomiridan qon oldirsa ham Hijoma sanaladimi? Yoki aynan shu uslubda oldirish kerakmi?
Shokirbek
11-05-2007, 09:54 AM
Tomiridan qon oldirsa ham Hijoma sanaladimi? Yoki aynan shu uslubda oldirish kerakmi?
Tomirdan qon olish hijoma sanalmaydi, "fasd" deb ataladi, lekin buni ham qilsa bo'ladi, foydasi bo'lgan vaqtlarda, yerlarda..
Hofiz Ibn Hajar "Fathul Boriy"da (10/138) shunday deydilar: "Shuningdek, issiq o'lkalarda hijoma fasd (tomirdan qon olish) ga qaraganda foydaliroq, fasd esa issiq bo'lmagan o'lkada foydaliroqdir.. ".
~Atirgul~
11-05-2007, 12:59 PM
Tomiridan qon oldirsa ham Hijoma sanaladimi? Yoki aynan shu uslubda oldirish kerakmi?
Tomirda toza qon aylanadikuu, uni oldirsa odamga ko'proq zarar tarafi bo'lsa kerak. Menimcha hijomadan aynan badanida yig'ilib qolgan eski qon oldirish uchun foydalaniladi
Frida
11-05-2007, 06:14 PM
hammaga ham to'g'ri kelavermasa kerak?. kam qonlik bilan og'rigan kishilarga ruxsat berilmasa keragov. o'zbekistonda ko'p qonlik bilan og'riganlarni zuluk bilan davolashadi. qonni so'rib olishning yana bir turi.
~Atirgul~ odam tanasida kir yoki toza qon degan tushunchaning o'zi yo'q. kislorodga to'yingan yoki to'yinmagan qon mavjud. tanamizda aylanadigan qonning hammasi bir. "toza" yoki "kir" qonga ajratish meditsina rivojlanmasidan, yurak klappanlari "motorga" o'xshab tanamizdagi qonni o'pkaga o'tkazishini o'rganishimizdan avvalgi ishlatilgan terminlar.
PainKiller
11-05-2007, 06:21 PM
Hijomaning odam tanasiga foydasi juda ham pod voprosom. Million hil odamda, har hil soglik, kon gruppasi, kasalliklar bulishi mumkin. Gemofiliya, Anemiya, rak bilan kasallangan, turli hil boshka kasaliklar bilan orgigan odamga hijoma kilish foyda emas, ziyon buladi. Migren' hijoma bilan davolanibdi yukorigi katnashchida, lekin bosh og'rik migren'mi, yoki boshka sababga kora bosh ogrikmi oldin aniklash kerak. Bosh ogrikka turli hil nervozlardan tortib, usmalargacha turli sabablar bulishi mumkin. Hullas, men, koprok g'arb tibbiyotiga ishonaman. Hammani bir hil hijoma kilsa bulmasa kerak.
PainKiller
11-05-2007, 06:24 PM
Tomirda toza qon aylanadikuu, uni oldirsa odamga ko'proq zarar tarafi bo'lsa kerak. Menimcha hijomadan aynan badanida yig'ilib qolgan eski qon oldirish uchun foydalaniladi
Frida tug'ri aytibdilar. Tana bir, unda oqayotgan hamma qon bir hil, u kir yoki toza bulmaydi.
http://www.cancerhelp.org.uk/cancer_images/circul.gif
Agar odamning tanasidan qon oqizib, odamga foyda bulganda edi, bu narsa hammaga tavsiya kilingan bular edi. Bironta shifokorni qon chikarishni maslahat berganlarini kormaganman. Aksincha, hijoma terini kesib, konni okizish ekanligini bilgan holda, shuni aytishim mumkinki, agar usha asboblar sterillanmagan bulsa, ana usha kesilgan joylardan infekciya tushib, odam kasal bulish ehtimoli bor.
~Atirgul~
11-05-2007, 09:31 PM
~Atirgul~ odam tanasida kir yoki toza qon degan tushunchaning o'zi yo'q. kislorodga to'yingan yoki to'yinmagan qon mavjud. tanamizda aylanadigan qonning hammasi bir. "toza" yoki "kir" qonga ajratish meditsina rivojlanmasidan, yurak klappanlari "motorga" o'xshab tanamizdagi qonni o'pkaga o'tkazishini o'rganishimizdan avvalgi ishlatilgan terminlar.
ÿ íå â òîì ñìûñëå èìåëà ÷òî ãðÿçíàÿ çíà÷èò ãðÿçü êàêàÿòà, ÿ èìåëà â âèäó êðîâü êîòîðàÿ íå èãðàåò ðîëè â îáìåíå âåùåñòâ, ò.å. çàñòûâøàÿ êðîâü, â êàïèëëÿðàõ íàïðèìåð. Mèãðåíü è â ïðàâäå áûâàåò îò çàñòûâøåé êðîâè, êðîâü çàñòûâàåò â êàïèëëÿðàõ è îò ýòîãî áîëè. Ìîæíî åùå ïðèâåñòè ïðèìåð âàðèêîçíîãî ðàñøèðåíèÿ âåí, åñëè òðîìáû â âåíàõ îáðàçîâàëèñü òî îíè ìåøàþò ïåðåäâèãàòüñÿ êðîâè, à òðîìáû ýòî è åñòü çàñòûâøàÿ êðîâ, masalan agar zulukni usha joyga qo'pqoysangiz (yani tromba hosil bo'lgan joyga) u usha joydagi qonni so'rib tashlaydi. A agar venadan tromba bo'lmagan joyda qon olsangiz unda toza qon chiqadi, unda u odamga zarar, anemiya bo'lishi mumkin va h.
PainKiller
11-05-2007, 10:46 PM
ÿ íå â òîì ñìûñëå èìåëà ÷òî ãðÿçíàÿ çíà÷èò ãðÿçü êàêàÿòà, ÿ èìåëà â âèäó êðîâü êîòîðàÿ íå èãðàåò ðîëè â îáìåíå âåùåñòâ, ò.å. çàñòûâøàÿ êðîâü, â êàïèëëÿðàõ íàïðèìåð. Mèãðåíü è â ïðàâäå áûâàåò îò çàñòûâøåé êðîâè, êðîâü çàñòûâàåò â êàïèëëÿðàõ è îò ýòîãî áîëè. Ìîæíî åùå ïðèâåñòè ïðèìåð âàðèêîçíîãî ðàñøèðåíèÿ âåí, åñëè òðîìáû â âåíàõ îáðàçîâàëèñü òî îíè ìåøàþò ïåðåäâèãàòüñÿ êðîâè, à òðîìáû ýòî è åñòü çàñòûâøàÿ êðîâ, masalan agar zulukni usha joyga qo'pqoysangiz (yani tromba hosil bo'lgan joyga) u usha joydagi qonni so'rib tashlaydi. A agar venadan tromba bo'lmagan joyda qon olsangiz unda toza qon chiqadi, unda u odamga zarar, anemiya bo'lishi mumkin va h.:shock::lol:
Atirgul, nadeyus' vi ne medik.:D
Uyyonli
11-05-2007, 11:44 PM
And if run out of breath for about five minutes your heart stops, the oxigen shortness will stop your heart. but your brain still works for about another twenty minutes, and the death appears. And I also know some soldier got injured in Iraq has blood problems, like one my soldiers have problem with his splinter, that his splinter keeps all white cells and wastes them, because splinter separates all the virusus and bacterias but his splinter is ill :( (srry I am not doctor) and and he has to go to doctor every month to get white cell and give his blood or smth. So doctors are saying he needs to either contiu like this for the rest of his life ar get his splinter taken away. If they cut his splinter, he will be vulnarible to viruses and bacterias.
By the way I have been taking him into Islam, taking him to local mosque, gave him copy of Holy Qur'an. He has quit drinking, and he is trying to quit smoking, and he is getting better in his health. I wish Allah will guide him and give him help.
punch
11-06-2007, 06:38 PM
Frida tug'ri aytibdilar. Tana bir, unda oqayotgan hamma qon bir hil, u kir yoki toza bulmaydi.
Agar odamning tanasidan qon oqizib, odamga foyda bulganda edi, bu narsa hammaga tavsiya kilingan bular edi. Bironta shifokorni qon chikarishni maslahat berganlarini kormaganman. Aksincha, hijoma terini kesib, konni okizish ekanligini bilgan holda, shuni aytishim mumkinki, agar usha asboblar sterillanmagan bulsa, ana usha kesilgan joylardan infekciya tushib, odam kasal bulish ehtimoli bor.
kechirasizuuu bu qonchiqarish kecha paydo bolgan narsa emas , tarihda katta tabib olimlar qilgan davrida hozirgi meditsinangiz damni olib otirishgan, bu inson badanidagi kersiz qonni siqib chiqarish arab dunyosida mashhur, buni paygambarimiz ham qilishganlar
Hozirgi sharoitdagi Ozbekistondagi, va butun sobiq itfoqi mediklari hali endi tushunib etishvotti nimaga Hitoyda odamlar kopchiligi tabii osimtalarni eb soglom yurishini
Masalan Sudan va Iskandariya degan joyda "dukhan" degan narsa bor , tabii sandal yogochini tutatib qilinadi, ahir bu narsalar Toshmi 1 va Toshmi 2 ga etib kelmagankuu
qisqasi agar siz hozirgi sharoitdagi bizdagi mediklar maslahtiga quloq tutsang kopi sapsata
beling ogrib koz doctorini oldiga kirsang mani kasalim san deydi, boshing ogrib urologni oldiga kirsang " eyyy qaerda yuribsiz oka ahir sizkuu mani kasalim" yurovrasiz hammani kasalisiz
umm akil
11-20-2007, 06:13 PM
masha allah
Abu Hurayra
01-05-2008, 07:52 PM
I have done taking the blood off from the back of my head many years ago because I used to have frequent headaches and cannot be under the sun too long. The guy said to come back if there is pain after three days, three months or three years. Fortunately, I have never felt any pain after that and became better. The thing I want to mention was that he made a slit at the back of the head attached the instrument and pumped the bad blood out. It came to about half a cup. During the pumping, there was a slight pain but when I went home to wash my hair there was no pain whatsoever. Amazing.
I want you to know that women do it too, sometimes cupping on the body.
Mashallah,
But what I witnessed is that many people confuse blood letting from veins with this case. Therefore both are different things....
Frida
01-05-2008, 08:04 PM
bunday threadni Shokirbek-aka ochib, o'zlarining tajribalari haqida gapirib bergan edilar. Ancha fikr almashishlar bo'lgan edi.
Abu Hurayra
01-05-2008, 08:11 PM
bunday threadni Shokirbek-aka ochib, o'zlarining tajribalari haqida gapirib bergan edilar. Ancha fikr almashishlar bo'lgan edi.
endi kurdim u threadni (http://forum.arbuz.com/showthread.php?t=42088) , ikkalasini birlashtirsa bularkan, har qalay ikkalasida ham shaxsiy tajribalar bor...
Abu Hurayra
01-11-2008, 07:52 AM
:salam:
Quyidagi bog'lanmalarda Sunnatga ko'ra Hijomat qanday qilinishi ko'rsatilgan:
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The following is a link to a six part video by Shaikh Muhammad Musa Aal Nasr titled, ‘The Sunnah Of Hijaamah’: The Sunnah of Hijaamah (cupping/bekam) - part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeQGpQ2ZGxc
The Sunnah of Hijaamah (cupping/bekam) - part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjBZ4s-89DA&mode=related&search=
The Sunnah of Hijaamah (cupping/bekam) - part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P65YOYKKEzg&mode=related&search=
The Sunnah of Hijaamah (cupping/bekam) - part 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBSp9Iu3-bw&mode=related&search=
The Sunnah of Hijaamah (cupping/bekam) - part 5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gu-GXl0sosw&mode=related&search=
The Sunnah of Hijaamah (cupping/bekam) - part 6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKijL4Ey2oQ&mode=related&search=
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