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Queen
10-13-2005, 06:24 AM
hi,
what helps to raise the GPA? does it depend on number of credits per course, getting "+"s in your grades? or does it depend only on getting A's and B's from any kind of course?

Martingale
10-13-2005, 07:06 AM
hi,
what helps to raise the GPA? does it depend on number of credits per course, getting "+"s in your grades? or does it depend only on getting A's and B's from any kind of course?

it depends on all of the factors you mentioned above. But don't get obsessed with your GPA. I know it's not that low. ;)

Prince
10-13-2005, 02:27 PM
Study hard :)

Queen
10-13-2005, 06:26 PM
it depends on all of the factors you mentioned above. But don't get obsessed with your GPA. I know it's not that low. ;)
I was o.k with my GPA until begining this nursing program. it's very competitive to get into the clinical. so began thinking of raising it...

Martingale
10-14-2005, 01:29 PM
I was o.k with my GPA until begining this nursing program. it's very competitive to get into the clinical. so began thinking of raising it...

Did I tell you that Im taking geology class?:shock: It was such a stupid decision. I think my GPA is gonna go down too.

Sedimentary rocks, igneous rocks..., fcuk it:evil:

Prince
10-14-2005, 09:23 PM
Wait a sec , Laziz? Geology?
I was thinking to take Geology class too , becuase i have to take 2 nat science , tell me something about that?
Hey guys , what Nat Science u took? and what can u say about that?
Cheers ,

Martingale
10-14-2005, 11:08 PM
Wait a sec , Laziz? Geology?
I was thinking to take Geology class too , becuase i have to take 2 nat science , tell me something about that?
Hey guys , what Nat Science u took? and what can u say about that?
Cheers ,

Prince,

I also have these 2 science class requirement, that's why Im taking right now chemistry with lab and geology. The last one I hate most and it's not only boring, but also the language(science) is damn hard. I would suggest you NOT to take geology class. :D If your core curriculum requires to take science class, take computer lab class. I couldn't do that because when I registered for my classes online I was in uzbekistan waiting for my visa to get issued. So if I had taken programming class, I could at least learn sth on C++. Good Luck!;)

Prince
10-15-2005, 12:52 AM
Geology - out
What about Biology? :)
P.S: Fizikani maktabda yaxshi uqimaganmande bolmasa Fizika omoqchi edim :)

Queen
10-15-2005, 03:42 AM
Geology - out
What about Biology? :)
P.S: Fizikani maktabda yaxshi uqimaganmande bolmasa Fizika omoqchi edim :)
Hey Prince. yes don't take geology, unless u're majoring in it(don't think so). It's something that u don't really apply to everyday life, boring thus Laziz probably hates this class. anyways, Bio is the best natural science class to take. I am talking about general Bio. It does require lots of reading, but, so interesting that only this class pulled me into this field. Lab is fun, and mainly u understand many things about living orgs.

Queen
10-15-2005, 03:46 AM
Did I tell you that Im taking geology class?:shock: It was such a stupid decision. I think my GPA is gonna go down too.

Sedimentary rocks, igneous rocks..., fcuk it:evil:
yeah, u did. I was surprised when u told me that u're taking this class, why geology I wondered. Now i c, u just had too. Just push yourself more , don't even think of getting C.... :) hey if the problem about memorization, then relate the words to Russian or Uzbek. this works with me so mcuh.

illusion
10-31-2005, 01:21 AM
Prince,

I also have these 2 science class requirement, that's why Im taking right now chemistry with lab and geology. The last one I hate most and it's not only boring, but also the language(science) is damn hard. I would suggest you NOT to take geology class. :D If your core curriculum requires to take science class, take computer lab class. I couldn't do that because when I registered for my classes online I was in uzbekistan waiting for my visa to get issued. So if I had taken programming class, I could at least learn sth on C++. Good Luck!;)

LMAO! Guys r u kidding me? Geology and Chemistry???? I also have to take 2 science classes for my major...As far as i know, the easiest science classes are Physical Science I and Physical Science II...

Martingale
10-31-2005, 04:58 AM
LMAO! Guys r u kidding me? Geology and Chemistry???? I also have to take 2 science classes for my major...As far as i know, the easiest science classes are Physical Science I and Physical Science II...

Yeah, I know. And I was told several times: "what?are you stupid?":D And I really regret about taking those classes, but I had no other choice.
Physics is good.;)

Bonik
10-31-2005, 05:04 AM
First of, study hard :) by studying hard I don't mean sleep in the library... just get yourself comfortable with the subject of the class!!!

There is one really good strategy for all students to get good grades in every class. So, let's get started...

The first day after class ends, approach your professor and get acquainted with him or her. This way you show your interest towards his/her class. Tell him two or three words about yourself and ask him about his office hours and if it is ok for you to come to see him in those hours now and then...

Maintain eye contact with your professor. He needs to see some sparks in your eyes. He needs to see that you are really interested in his class. Even if it's the most boring class on Earth... try to act... It helps if you read the first 10-20 pages of the book.

Don't be shy to ask questions if you don't understand the subject matter.
Ask your professor to clarify that moment for you. This way he will see your interest in class.

Hard work and dedication and you'll be just another SUMMA CUM LAUDE or MAGNA CUM LAUDE :)

Prince
10-31-2005, 08:22 AM
As you said above , first of all study hard ,yeah you have to study!!!!
But i wanna tell you something , i dont think that studying in US is that hard , compared to studies in UZ!!!( in UZ it's too much work what you dont have to do or u dont need) I'm talking about myself , my 1st semester was SO HARD and my GPA after my 1st semester was 3.25 :) ( it was the worst semester i ever had ) Why? Because i was new here , in other words , i did not know how to play their "game". It was Completely different then UK and Uzbek system. But once I learnt how to play it , once I were similar with that , I just start to ”killing” them. I don’t think that you really have to work hard , you just have to know how to play with professors , it’s that easy, huh!?
P.S: After my second semester my GPA was above 3.5 :P ( Alhamdullah)

Amiri Turkiston
10-31-2005, 08:30 AM
to'g'risini aytsam GPA ni yuqori bulgani yahshi, lekin bu eng muhim narsa emas

muhimi bilim va real life experience

agar GPS 4 bulsa yu...relevant work exp. 0 bulsa - to sizdakangi ishchi hech kimga kerak emas

Martingale
10-31-2005, 03:10 PM
But i wanna tell you something , i dont think that studying in US is that hard , compared to studies in UZ!!!

It also depends on where you are studying at. In community colleges you can play in any games and even set up your own rules. Top tier schools, at some level you are right, but still not an easy task, cuz here comes a great competition from other international students who want to play their own games too. IVY League(as the name sounds all), sorry dude there is no open door policy for your games. BTW, 4.0 perfect GPA from any school with double-triple major can't beat 3.5 GPA with any major from IVY.

Prince
10-31-2005, 09:37 PM
Toka silneyshie ustanavlivayut pravila (C) Abduvaliev Salim
Esli ti ne smojesh ustanavlivat eto , togda ti ne silneyshiy... toest ti ne dostich takogo statusa... togda nado staratsa Laziz_Uwed_Aka:)
Cheers ,

Martingale
10-31-2005, 09:42 PM
Toka silneyshie ustanavlivayut pravila (C) Abduvaliev Salim
Esli ti ne smojesh ustanavlivat eto , togda ti ne silneyshiy... toest ti ne dostich takogo statusa... togda nado staratsa Laziz_Uwed_Aka:)
Cheers ,

Prince, maybe. quite possible.;) But what I said is just the truth.

Prince
10-31-2005, 09:44 PM
C`mon bro ,
Nado staratsa i vse :) GPA is peace of CAKE! Does not metter where u r @ Harvard or TASHGU , if u r good u are good everywhere , if not not!!!
It's not about the school , it's about u!
Cheers ,

Martingale
10-31-2005, 09:49 PM
C`mon bro ,
Nado staratsa i vse :) GPA is peace of CAKE! Does not metter where u r @ Harvard or TASHGU , if u r good u are good everywhere , if not not!!!
It's not about the school , it's about u!
Cheers ,

Prince,
I can't complain about my current GPA(actually my post isn't for a special case) and I know for sure that GPA is highly undervalued at top Universities than lower tier universities. Harvard gpa 3.0 is way better than 4.0 from any state universities outside top 50. Tashgu?????? man, that was agood joke.:lol:

Prince
10-31-2005, 09:51 PM
I love our Universities , it was a lot of fun :)

WASP
11-01-2005, 02:00 PM
Prince,
I can't complain about my current GPA(actually my post isn't for a special case) and I know for sure that GPA is highly undervalued at top Universities than lower tier universities. Harvard gpa 3.0 is way better than 4.0 from any state universities outside top 50. Tashgu?????? man, that was agood joke.:lol:

Nah.. you are exaggerating for sure. Harvard 3.3 - 3.5 normally would be equal to 3.6 -3.8. Undergraduate education isn't thaaaat different among Universities. It's just like in the lower-tier schools, 75% of time you self-study. The only reason why it is harder to get better grades in top schools, is because everybody else is working as hard as you are. On the other hand, I was told some of the classes taught in public schools are a lot harder than in those top private schools. For public schools all those ranking and reputation is not very important, all they care about is reaching out to as many students as possible... and professors will fail you if you do bad in their classes. However, in top private schools they are obsessed with attracting the richest of the riches so all that statistics does mean a lot to them, because that's what rich people care about - status. In that case, professors will think twice before failing a student...

Martingale
11-01-2005, 03:08 PM
Nah.. you are exaggerating for sure. Harvard 3.3 - 3.5 normally would be equal to 3.6 -3.8. Undergraduate education isn't thaaaat different among Universities. It's just like in the lower-tier schools, 75% of time you self-study. The only reason why it is harder to get better grades in top schools, is because everybody else is working as hard as you are. On the other hand, I was told some of the classes taught in public schools are a lot harder than in those top private schools. For public schools all those ranking and reputation is not very important, all they care about is reaching out to as many students as possible... and professors will fail you if you do bad in their classes. However, in top private schools they are obsessed with attracting the richest of the riches so all that statistics does mean a lot to them, because that's what rich people care about - status. In that case, professors will think twice before failing a student...

WASP, No im not.:)
Of course the programs do not vary substantially, but still it's much harder to get A at top Uni than at public Us. You proved it yourself.;)
But actually when I said 3.0(B) is better than 4.0 (A), I meant in terms of employment opportunities. Esp. in financial services industry(Investment Banking, Private Equity, hedge fund etc.), the name of the school plays a lot. if you come from ABC State University at XYZ you will be looked as a "non-traditional" applicant, even if you are a superstar at that school.
But with the name like Harvard, Wharton, Columbia, Berkeley, you should be fine.:cool:

WASP
11-01-2005, 03:18 PM
If you are talking about the brand-recognition, than GPA has nothing to do with employment opportunities. Top "Wall Street" firms won't even look at your application even if you have 4.001/4.0 and coming out of a public school. Contrary to this, they will consider a Harvard applicant with 2.9/4 just because he's coming out of Harvard. This is not because they are necessarily smarter, but because again prestige factors in to the decision-making apparatus. If you look at this issue from recruiters' perspective, whenever a person is invited for an interview that recruiter's ass is on the line.... no one wants to hear: "Where in the hell did you find this guy?" For this reason, hiring managers are reluctant to interview students from low-tier schools. With top-school case, a hiring manager always has an alibi: "Who would have thought this student goes to Harvard??" It's very complicated...

Martingale
11-01-2005, 03:22 PM
If you are talking about the brand-recognition, than GPA has nothing to do with employment opportunities. Top "Wall Street" firms won't even look at your application even if you have 4.001/4.0 and coming out of a public school. Contrary to this, they will consider a Harvard applicant with 2.9/4 just because he's coming out of Harvard. This is not because they are necessarily smarter, but because again prestige factors in to the decision-making apparatus. If you look at this issue from recruiters' perspective, whenever a person is invited for an interview that recruiter's ass is on the line.... no one wants to hear: "Where in the hell did you find this guy?" For this reason, hiring managers are reluctant to interview students from low-tier schools. With top-school case, a hiring manager always has an alibi: "Who would have thought this student goes to Harvard??" It's very complicated...
What was I talking about here?:D

What else do you need GPA for?

WASP
11-01-2005, 03:32 PM
What was I talking about here?:D

What else do you need GPA for?

GPA is not as important when you are looking for a job; it is absolutely important when applying for graduate schools.

Martingale
11-01-2005, 03:36 PM
GPA is not as important when you are looking for a job; it is absolutely important when applying for graduate schools.

No it is. This is the only way you may stick out among others given you don't have ivy background.

WASP
11-01-2005, 03:41 PM
As I mentioned above, if you are applying for a company that normally hires from IVY, you better have something a lot more than a stellar GPA.

For regional companies, like investment banks in GA, they do care about your GPA... but GPA only gets you an interview, to get a job you have to be able to ace the interview. The bottom line, GPA is partially important..

Martingale
11-01-2005, 03:43 PM
As I mentioned above, if you are applying for a company that normally hires from IVY, you better have something a lot more than a stellar GPA.

For regional companies, like investment banks in GA, they do care about your GPA... but GPA only gets you an interview, to get a job you have to be able to ace the interview. The bottom line, GPA is partially important..

:yes: I will keep that in mind.:)

Amiri Turkiston
11-01-2005, 08:50 PM
Actually I've also worked in Investment Bank....
but nobody looks to my GPA
I passed an interview then I got the job

WASP
11-01-2005, 08:54 PM
In i-banking they do look at your gpa. At least in Citigroup's Corporate and Investment Banking they do :). However, it does not mean that 4.0 gpa will get you a job, you also have to back up your gpa with some knowledge.

Guest to this world.

Certainly they do care, what I meant was they do not care as much. It is obvious that an engineer major would have much lower GPA than a philosophy major. Coincidentally, i-banking hires both. :)

Are you an international? As far as I know, getting a job with Citi M&A is very difficult for internationals... no matter how qualified they are.

WASP
11-01-2005, 08:55 PM
Actually I've also worked in Investment Bank....
but nobody looks to my GPA
I passed an interview then I got the job

Would you care to share your experience in I-banking?