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Delf
10-18-2005, 09:49 PM
The following article brings to us the reality of Orange Revolution in Ukraine. A year has passed, but has anything changed? There was tremendous hope for and expectations from the new leaders.
But one year later we see only same old system, and people are disillusioned with promises of revolution.

I invite everybody to discuss what caused some Baltic states to become part of Europe and join the community of developed nations while Georgia and Ukraine are falling short of promises made by their revolutions.

Is it the legacy of the old system? The Constitution? The new leaders? The influence of neighbours? The culture? What is causing Baltic states to develop and Georgia and Ukraine to fail?

I hope the discussion will be open-minded and we will start with an analysis and not with a conclusion.

Sincerely,

Delf.


Free to mourn the Orange dream
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4354542.stm

"These include a lack of real progress with economic reform, embarrassing squabbles in the president's team and sometimes inexplicable political alliances with former opponents including Viktor Yanukovich, for many an odious figure in Ukraine."

"New government appointments appear to be awash with nepotism not seen even when Leonid Kuchma was in power."

"Bribery is said to have increased manifold."

Kolobok
10-19-2005, 08:21 AM
I have a lot of friends from Ukraine and indeed,they are saying it's all the same story - nothing has really changed,apart from the "free media". However,if Ukraine are to push to the EU and NATO they have a lot of hard work to do,I don't really know much about political and economical situation within the country,but I believe if the new president get's a bit tougher and tries to fight the corruption it could work out for them. Corruption is just a part of the problem.
Another reason why Ukraine is failing to change things since "orange revolution" is I belive their close neighbour - Russia. Russia's influence is still massive,which isn't positive sign.
Economically,they need liberal economical reforms as all post-soviet countries do. They've promised to get Ukraine into market economy by winter,this will be interesting to watch. In fact,Ukraine has the potentials to do so,as they have NATO's support.
That's all I could come up with for now. :)

timurlenk
10-21-2005, 06:37 PM
noting will change ,even the things will be worse in future for such countries under western revolutions as the power taken from local tyrants and given to international -western- monopolist so called democrat ,western values bla bla bla... you will see in near future such countries' debts will increase dramatically ,there may be some short term improvments for ordinary people but they will loose all their future even their country... no one in the world will bring you richness,happiness.. you should work hardly for your own country as to have better life,better future,better democratic state .. soros foundation or such organizations are only trojan horse to controll all the world and to such all riches of the local people...