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Sayyoh
10-22-2005, 12:51 AM
Узбекские евреи просят Б-га остановить эту войну
Дата: 19.05.05
Кровавое восстание в Узбекистане, произошедшее на выходных, изрядно напугало местных евреев. Но теперь опасность для них миновала. По крайней мере, так сказали в воскресенье Jerusalem Post несколько членов местной еврейской общины. “Бои проходили недалеко от нашего дома”, – рассказывает Виталик Брук, сын андижанского раввина Славика Брука.
Узбекская правозащитная организация заявила в понедельник, что действия правительственных войск в отношении демонстрантов являются «откровенным геноцидом».
Сайджахон Зайнабитдинов, глава местной правозащитной организации, сказал журналисту новостной телепередачи Associated Press:
“Люди сейчас боятся не столько так называемых боевиков, сколько правительственных войск”.
Зайнабитдинов повторил утверждение демонстрантов, что их целью является не свержение правительства, а просто высказывание вслух своих горестей.
“Демонстранты не претендовали на власть. Это было обычное излияние народных чувств. Бедственное положение людей вывело их на улицы”, – сказал он.
Кровавое восстание в Узбекистане, произошедшее на выходных, изрядно напугало местных евреев. Но теперь опасность для них миновала. По крайней мере, так сказали в воскресенье Jerusalem Post несколько членов местной еврейской общины.
“Бои проходили недалеко от нашего дома”, – рассказывает Виталик Брук, сын андижанского раввина Славика Брука. “Всю ночь (с четверга на пятницу) мы слышали стрельбу. Уснуть было невозможно”.
Брук рассказал, как народные массы проломились сквозь стену местной тюрьмы. Еще до начала стрельбы они освободили тысячи людей. Сообщают, что число погибших колеблется в районе 500 человек.
С вечера пятницы до утра субботы жители Андижана не могли свободно передвигаться по городу. Нескольким евреям, однако, удалось пробраться в синагогу на утренние субботние молитвы.
“Они просили Б-га остановить эту войну”, – сказал Брук.
Сразу после окончания шаббата главный раввин Узбекистана Абба Давид Гуревич призвал все местные синагоги донести до людей следующее послание.
“Было, конечно, здорово”, – сказал он, смеясь, чтобы сбросить напряжение. – “Но, к счастью, бунтовщикам нет дела до евреев. Это внутренние дела узбеков”.
Президент Узбекистана Ислам Каримов обвинил в инциденте террористов, связанных с “Хизб ут-Тахрир”, подпольной среднеазиатской группировкой, стремящейся к созданию всемирного исламского государства.
Около 90% узбеков исповедуют ислам.
Хотя сообщается, что тысячи узбеков бежали через границу в Кыргызстан, несколько источников утверждают, что евреев среди них не было.
Всё же Гуревич посчитал нужным успокоить местных евреев после кровопролития в Андижане, усугубившегося еще и убийством нападавшего на израильское посольство в Ташкенте в пятницу.
Посланник раввина разослал всем еврейским общинам письма, в том числе совет покойного любавического ребе Менахема Шнеерсона оставаться непоколебимыми и богобоязненными, а также просьбу Гуревича петь псалмы.
Подействовала ли молитва андижанских евреев, предостережение ребе или страх узбекского населения перед автоматным огнем, но в воскресенье днем евреи Узбекистана уже были уверены, что в стране вновь воцарился порядок.
В Фергане, политически взрывоопасной долине, где заправляют исламские террористы, и где в выходные произошел мятеж, сотрудник еврейского общинного центра сказал Jerusalem Post на ломаном иврите:
“Вначале было плохо, но теперь опять хорошо. Всё в порядке. Не беспокойтесь.
Сэм Сёр и Associated Press, Jerusalem Post Перевод Вадима Черновецкого, Sem40.Ru
URL этой статьи:
http://www.isralife.info/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=5658
Sayyoh
04-13-2006, 11:39 PM
In the picture below the mother of a Palestinian gunman Ibraheem Masoud cries during his funeral at the Jabalya refugee camp in the northern Gaza strip April 13, 2006. An Israeli airstrike killed two Palestinian gunmen near the Gaza border on Wednesday as Israel kept up attacks that have killed civilians as well as militants, whereas US blocks Arab-initiated UN draft pressing Israel to end attacks (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060413/ts_nm/mideast_un_dc)
we shall overcome...
Sayyoh
04-16-2006, 09:23 PM
we say no to usa and yes to funds to bro's and sis's in falasteen (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060417/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iran_palestinians;_ylt=Asw8mhIuwJkr08D9Krh8Gn4Uewg F;_ylu=X3oDMTA3b3JuZGZhBHNlYwM3MjE-)
Sayyoh
06-24-2006, 08:50 AM
quite a DISTURBING image as aftermath of "the chosen" people... (http://www.sendspace.com/file/zp4iy9)
for those with shaky nervous system - plz avoid
iyyaka na'budu wa iyyaka nasta'in; ihdinassirotol mustaqim
Sayyoh
07-04-2006, 11:42 AM
Please see attachment for how Israelis use Palestinian little children for shields, and hide behind our little children to save their lives, this is the unbeatable Israel. See attachment for yourselves. and tell the West who support the Jews to stop lying.
Sayyoh
07-04-2006, 11:51 AM
terrorist children... i hate these terrorists... they are killing poor jews... poor, poor helpless jews...
The Reaper
07-04-2006, 02:55 PM
How can one even take this article seriously is beyond me.
It's just an article from a WEBSITE. Last I checked, you don't need to be a journalist or a full-time researcher to create one.
After looking at the site, it's my opinion that you should take everything written there with a grain of salt. Moreover, I couldn't find a link to the AP article mentioned there.
Even if the underlined words in the original post are true, it's stupid to judge an entire ethnic group based on stupidity of a single individual.
TR
anatoliydaev
07-05-2006, 03:46 AM
Terrorists must die in a most pervert way!
Sayyoh
07-05-2006, 05:07 AM
bravo, daiyev!
can u give an example or two as to how exactly that should be done?
I am thinking of gassing the hell out of them...
or no, first rape and then burn them...
or how about dipping them on a "brown substance" and put a dog on their face...
or, what do you think about tying a terrorist-stone-thrower child onto our military vehicles?
wait, we can just pretend that terrorists in this house and shoot them in head and backs because for sure they will want to fight us seeking freedom from our occupation... unthankful bastards! we freed them from their oppressive leader and have freed them from their hunger! we are taking their oil but we are giving them food, aren't we?
these muslims are ungrateful pigs if they are unhappy with our withdrawal from g'azo! we've graciously left what we legitimately own - our holy land (but the fact that we left the place looong time ago is of no interest right now)
no, let's just mock their most beloved human being on earth - their Prophet Muhammad :saws: ! They'll bark back, heeell yeah! Then we'll use our mass media to show the brutality of these mooozlems!!!
WE deserve to rule the world! Only us! WE are the chosen ones! These deutsch cannot put up their OWN flags in homes, bc this will be anti-semitism! (altho we should keep silent about anti-semitism also covering anti-arabism, since arabs are also semites!..)
long live "yisroil" and its puppet - the yu-es kangres!!!
nemets
07-05-2006, 06:29 AM
bravo, daiyev!
These deutsch cannot put up their OWN flags in homes, bc this will be anti-semitism! (altho we should keep silent about anti-semitism also covering anti-arabism, since arabs are also semites!..)
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Sorry I didn't read all thread, but above statement is not true!!
I can make a picture from my apartment and you will see that the german flags are almost in every window opposite to my house and car on the street.
Sayyoh
07-05-2006, 06:40 AM
nemets, out of all my post you've found a possible mistake and rushed to share the discovery?.. :) bravissimo!
nemets
07-05-2006, 07:49 AM
nemets, out of all my post you've found a possible mistake and rushed to share the discovery?.. :) bravissimo!
If I read carefully all thread I might find another mistakes, but I do not care about neither isralis nor palestinians and therefor do not even want to read all posts. Stupid war between two stubborn nations for holy land.
anatoliydaev
07-05-2006, 08:33 AM
bravo, daiyev!
can u give an example or two as to how exactly that should be done?
I am thinking of gassing the hell out of them...
or no, first rape and then burn them...
or how about dipping them on a "brown substance" and put a dog on their face...
or, what do you think about tying a terrorist-stone-thrower child onto our military vehicles?
wait, we can just pretend that terrorists in this house and shoot them in head and backs because for sure they will want to fight us seeking freedom from our occupation... unthankful bastards! we freed them from their oppressive leader and have freed them from their hunger! we are taking their oil but we are giving them food, aren't we?
these muslims are ungrateful pigs if they are unhappy with our withdrawal from g'azo! we've graciously left what we legitimately own - our holy land (but the fact that we left the place looong time ago is of no interest right now)
no, let's just mock their most beloved human being on earth - their Prophet Muhammad :saws: ! They'll bark back, heeell yeah! Then we'll use our mass media to show the brutality of these mooozlems!!!
WE deserve to rule the world! Only us! WE are the chosen ones! These deutsch cannot put up their OWN flags in homes, bc this will be anti-semitism! (altho we should keep silent about anti-semitism also covering anti-arabism, since arabs are also semites!..)
long live "yisroil" and its puppet - the yu-es kangres!!!
I don't care. You chose.
The rest of your post I didn't read, beacuese it is useual blah-blah-blah. Go see your doctor.
SmIlIk
07-05-2006, 08:45 AM
Guilty are not killers or terrorists; Guilty are those who chose to keep silence and ignore everything around them. It is because of their silence we see terror and killing. World is going downstream and humanity is disgrasing itself.
Those who speak up and try to provide others with some info we call sick minded, ask them to see Dr. Even though whatever we see in those articles are long around truth. As if we care, We ask for more sophisticated news agencies like AP, CNN. Dears, they won't go there... it is not safe for them in Gaza Strip. It is up to you and me...
bacha
07-05-2006, 09:38 AM
Terrorists must die in a most pervert way!
Definition of the word terrorist contains a conflict.
One definition says, a person or group of people who for their political agenda choose random actions to terrorize/srace population of a given country and increase awareness of the population to their problem or agenda.
The other says, a radical or a group of radicals who chose terror in order to put forward his own radical ideas, and often use religion as a cover(from free online dictionary-pretty sure written by Americans).
Within israeli-palestinian conflict, the first definition is more correct. A much weaker nation chose random military actions, including suicide bombers, in order to increase awareness of israelis to their problem so that they could put pressure on their government to solve the problem.
Jewish resistance in the Ghettos during the second world was also a type of terrorism. Russian guerilla fighters(uzbeks as well- USSR ;)) on the occupied lands against Nazi invaders were as well terrorists. Right after invasion, many soldiers and civilians lost contact with the center, they chose to fight their own war by killing germans in the forests, putting bombs on the railways and bridges. To the Nazi government(which was supported by the majority of Germans, which means to a government with an authority, they were all terrorists, as their war was not in its conventional meaning).
So, who exactly should die in a most pervert way...
Sayyoh
07-05-2006, 10:54 AM
MY definition of a terrorist (http://middle-east-online.com/english/?id=16894)
anatoliydaev
07-05-2006, 11:18 AM
Here the reference for terrorists
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorist_groups
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Terrorists
bacha
07-05-2006, 02:01 PM
Here the reference for terrorists
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorist_groups
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Terrorists
The first article is about terrorist organizations.
The second ona brings the names of terrorist leaders.
But, in your initial post you said "terrorists must die in a most pervert way", apperently answering to the posts by Sayyoh. And, in Sayyoh's posts I did not see any referance or support of any of the organizations or terrorist leaders you refer to in this post. So, your post was an offtopic?
anatoliydaev
07-05-2006, 03:09 PM
The first article is about terrorist organizations.
The second ona brings the names of terrorist leaders.
But, in your initial post you said "terrorists must die in a most pervert way", apperently answering to the posts by Sayyoh. And, in Sayyoh's posts I did not see any referance or support of any of the organizations or terrorist leaders you refer to in this post. So, your post was an offtopic?
Yes, I am a famous oftopper of forum.uz and I need to be banned.
Black
07-06-2006, 01:09 AM
bravo, daiyev!
can u give an example or two as to how exactly that should be done?
I am thinking of gassing the hell out of them...
or no, first rape and then burn them...
or how about dipping them on a "brown substance" and put a dog on their face...
or, what do you think about tying a terrorist-stone-thrower child onto our military vehicles?
wait, we can just pretend that terrorists in this house and shoot them in head and backs because for sure they will want to fight us seeking freedom from our occupation... unthankful bastards! we freed them from their oppressive leader and have freed them from their hunger! we are taking their oil but we are giving them food, aren't we?
these muslims are ungrateful pigs if they are unhappy with our withdrawal from g'azo! we've graciously left what we legitimately own - our holy land (but the fact that we left the place looong time ago is of no interest right now)
no, let's just mock their most beloved human being on earth - their Prophet Muhammad :saws: ! They'll bark back, heeell yeah! Then we'll use our mass media to show the brutality of these mooozlems!!!
WE deserve to rule the world! Only us! WE are the chosen ones! These deutsch cannot put up their OWN flags in homes, bc this will be anti-semitism! (altho we should keep silent about anti-semitism also covering anti-arabism, since arabs are also semites!..)
long live "yisroil" and its puppet - the yu-es kangres!!!
Dear Brother.
I understand you and your emotions. But remember, you are talking to deaf and blind people, there is no point of talking to them. They do not hear you, they do not see what is really happenning. It is useless to talk to them, if you bring one fact, they will post hundred their "facts". Those people have no intention and willingness to listen to muslims.
Keep your nerv cells brother, we need them in fighting the enemies of Islam.
The Reaper
07-06-2006, 02:28 AM
Dear Brother.
I understand you and your emotions. But remember, you are talking to deaf and blind people, there is no point of talking to them. They do not hear you, they do not see what is really happenning. It is useless to talk to them, if you bring one fact, they will post hundred their "facts". Those people have no intention and willingness to listen to muslims.
If one disagrees with methods which Palestinians use against the Israeli occupation, it doesn't make him a zionist. You, in turn, are no better than the zionist right-wingers, who accuse anyone disagreeing with Israelis as being an anti-semite.
Keep your nerv cells brother, we need them in fighting the enemies of Islam.
Where have I heard this before?
Hmmm.... I think there is that tall Arab guy with a beard, and a dialysis machine attached to him...
Oh wait, was it Zarqawi, or maybe Al-Zawahiri, Mullah Omar, Shamil Basaev?
TR
Sayyoh
07-06-2006, 03:10 AM
Dear Brother.
I understand you and your emotions. But remember, you are talking to deaf and blind people, there is no point of talking to them. They do not hear you, they do not see what is really happenning. It is useless to talk to them, if you bring one fact, they will post hundred their "facts". Those people have no intention and willingness to listen to muslims.
Keep your nerv cells brother, we need them in fighting the enemies of Islam.
Yasin:8 "Dаrhаqiqаt, Biz ulаrning bo’yinlаrigа tо iyaklаrigаchа (etаdigаn) kishаnlаrni urib qo’ydik, bаs, ulаr g’o’dаyib qоldilаr (ya’ni, ulаr hаqqа egilmаslаr)."
elDoraDo
07-06-2006, 03:26 AM
If one disagrees with methods which Palestinians use against the Israeli occupation, it doesn't make him a zionist. You, in turn, are no better than the zionist right-wingers, who accuse anyone disagreeing with Israelis as being an anti-semite.
Where have I heard this before?
Hmmm.... I think there is that tall Arab guy with a beard, and a dialysis machine attached to him...
Oh wait, was it Zarqawi, or maybe Al-Zawahiri, Mullah Omar, Shamil Basaev?
TR
The Reaper,
i don't think that he adressed his msg to you nor asked you to comment. he is letting those "unbelievers" like you and me be, so why don't you do the same. you see Zarqawi's in them, they see zionists in vice versa. the only difference they realize it is wiser to stop fighting, by saying this
there is no point of talking to them
they stop talking to you, or any other who does not share their view, but you don't. it was proven here many times that teasing do not lead to solution. ;)
rgrds
Black
07-06-2006, 03:38 AM
If one disagrees with methods which Palestinians use against the Israeli occupation, it doesn't make him a zionist. You, in turn, are no better than the zionist right-wingers, who accuse anyone disagreeing with Israelis as being an anti-semite.
Where have I heard this before?
Hmmm.... I think there is that tall Arab guy with a beard, and a dialysis machine attached to him...
Oh wait, was it Zarqawi, or maybe Al-Zawahiri, Mullah Omar, Shamil Basaev?
TR
Reaper, as usual you are taking out my words of context. Where did I tell that If one disagrees with methods which Palestinians use against the Israeli occupation, it makes him a zionist. So next time before quoting me, read my post first and try to understand what I want to say. If you are not inretested in understanding me, we have nothing to talk. If you do follow my posts I am totally against suicidings and killing innocent ppl. But that does make me zionist lover.
As for Zarqawi and etc., I never assosiate myself with them.
Also, fighting enemies of Islam does not only mean killing somebody (while it is the best way to fight with them), there are other ways to fight as well.
I know that you are not zionist, but why you people speak only against muslims? Because you have double standards and have no respect to muslims and their life (Am I right?! Yes). That's why I do not see any point talking to such people. Or are you going to change your mind after my words? No, never! So my previous post is correct: no point of talking to you guys.
Your equalizing my words with Zarqawi and co. shows that all muslims are the same for you-terrorists. If somebody demands or talks about his rights and about fighting to survive you simple label him terrorist. Just like Bush: "If you are not with us, you against us! Terrorists we are flying to you to bomb you" and etc., Next thing you say, I guess, to accuse me on hiding bin Laden in my flat.
P.S. Btw, by enemies of Islam I did not mean you. But, who knows "Kajdiy ponimaet po mere svoyey isporchennosti".
The Reaper
07-06-2006, 03:52 AM
Reaper, as usual you are taking out my words of context. Where did I tell that If one disagrees with methods which Palestinians use against the Israeli occupation, it makes him a zionist. So next time before quoting me, read my post first and try to understand what I want to say. If you are not inretested in understanding me, we have nothing to talk. If you do follow my posts I am totally against suicidings and killing innocent ppl. But that does make me zionist lover.
I wasn't trying to take it out of the context, all I'm saying is, some members here tend to go to the extreme when looking at the Palestinian-Israeli conflict.
As for Zarqawi and etc., I never assosiate myself with them.
Good to know.
Also, fighting enemies of Islam does not only mean killing somebody (while it is the best way to fight with them), there are other ways to fight as well.
Who are enemies of Islam per you definition?
I know that you are not zionist, but why you people speak only against muslims? Because you have double standards and have no respect to muslims and their life (Am I right?! Yes). That's why I do not see any point talking to such people. Or are you going to change your mind after my words? No, never! So my previous post is correct: no point of talking to you guys.
I don't talk against Muslims in general, I talk against extremists. HAMAS, whether you agree or not, is an extremist group, which is undermining all attempts to make peace with Israel. People on both sides are tired of this conflict.
Your equalizing my words with Zarqawi and co. shows that all muslims are the same for you-terrorists. If somebody demands or talks about his rights and about fighting to survive you simple label him terrorist. Just like Bush: "If you are not with us, you against us! Terrorists we are flying to you to bomb you" and etc., Next thing you say, I guess, to accuse me on hiding bin Laden in my flat.
P.S. Btw, by enemies of Islam I did not mean you. But, who knows "Kajdiy ponimaet po mere svoyey isporchennosti".
Again, I'm not accusing you of anything. All I'm saying is the phrase "Enemies of Islam" is as stupid as "Enemies of freedom ((c) George W. Bush)". You see my drift? It's too general, and can be stretched to any extremes depending on your views.
To me personally, enemies of Islam are the ones hijacking it, and using it as a basis for their cheap political gain. What better way to mobilize the crowd than the good ol' religion?
TR
Black
07-06-2006, 03:55 AM
The Reaper,
i don't think that he adressed his msg to you nor asked you to comment. he is letting those "unbelievers" like you and me be, so why don't you do the same. you see Zarqawi's in them, they see zionists in vice versa. the only difference they realize it is wiser to stop fighting, by saying this
they stop talking to you, or any other who does not share their view, but you don't. it was proven here many times that teasing do not lead to solution. ;)
rgrds
eldo, fear Allah, I never meant you or Reaper. You will answer for that (before Allah in the Judgement Day) inshallah. Even though I do not (mostly) agree with Reaper or with anatoliy or with anybody else, I do not call them zionist or something else (unless they call themselves by that name).
Is it not a proof of that there is no point talking to such people who have no willing to understand?!
P.S. eldorado, sometimes you behave very childish. Just because sometime I did not agree with you, or just because you do not agree with my ideas does not make us enemies.
Sayyoh
07-06-2006, 04:00 AM
Originally Posted by Black
Dear Brother.
I understand you and your emotions. But remember, you are talking to deaf and blind people, there is no point of talking to them. They do not hear you, they do not see what is really happenning. It is useless to talk to them, if you bring one fact, they will post hundred their "facts". Those people have no intention and willingness to listen to muslims.
If one disagrees with methods which Palestinians use against the Israeli occupation, it doesn't make him a zionist. You, in turn, are no better than the zionist right-wingers, who accuse anyone disagreeing with Israelis as being an anti-semite.
Ripper, I don't see ANY single point in Black's post that could provoke one to make conclusion alike that of yours... Don't twist words, dude.
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Keep your nerve cells brother, we need them in fighting the enemies of Islam.
Where have I heard this before?
Hmmm.... I think there is that tall Arab guy with a beard, and a dialysis machine attached to him...
Oh wait, was it Zarqawi, or maybe Al-Zawahiri, Mullah Omar, Shamil Basaev?
and? so?..
The Reaper
07-06-2006, 04:10 AM
Ripper, I don't see ANY single point in Black's post that could provoke one to make conclusion alike that of yours... Don't twist words, dude.
I'm not twisting anything. I'm against extremes in any shape or form. That's all.
People should stop mixing religion and politics. It's a very dangerous combination, as seen in many conflicts throuout history of humanity.
and? so?..
So you don't see anything wrong with people responsible for deaths of thousands of people? All while waving the flag of Islam and shouting the names of God and the Prophet.
TR
SmIlIk
07-06-2006, 06:56 AM
Wasnt this thread about Palestinian occupation???
There is no Israeli occupation...Israilits strong enough to occupy anyone's *ss at this point. Their ultimate goal is to keep Al-Aqsa/Jerusalim in their territory... and I am sure first and biggest reason for it is their religion. Second, is to mock Muslims.
Kogda delo dohodit to Palenstincev vse nachinayut religiya i gosudarstvo dolzhno raz'edenitsya. A pro evreev vse molchkom.
Alouddin
07-06-2006, 07:53 AM
came in an email:
The Question with NO Answer
How will “Israel” "prevail" one day with brute force?
How will Zionism "solve" a problem that did NOT exist?
Zionism used FEAR to create what it claims to be a "Jewish National Home"
This sounds like driving on the wrong side of the street while ALL others drive on the right side.
Zionism claimed to have a solution to "ghettos" only to create the largest ghetto ever.
If you remember that around 65% of “Israelis live in the coastal strip between Haifa and Gaza border.
If you look at the map and measure the distance between the sea shore and the wall: 18 kms. only
Did Zionism really achieve what it claimed all the time to have achieved?
What is a better short description of “Israel” than a "modern times ghetto"?
While you read these lines “Israel” has imprisoned a democratically elected parliament and the cabinet that was brought to power by a democratic process attested by International observers.
Zionism claims to have the "moral right" to do to others what it says Jews have been through...
This is equivalent to saying a thing is WRONG and RIGHT at the very same time!
It is WRONG when Jews are being persecuted.
It is RIGHT when the Jewish State is persecuting!
What sense does that make to a level-headed person?
Gaza is now under attack. Reason given: one “Israeli” soldier has been taken prisoner.
Palestinian Resistance says "free women and children held prisoners" for us to free the soldier.
Simple demand to which “Israel has responded with heavy shelling and plane strafing.
“Israel” claims it wants PEACE.
This peace is supposed to be with the indigenous population whom “Israel has expelled.
While “Israel” talks peace it uses its military power to subjugate the very people it wants to live with.
Strange unprecedented formula that NEVER brought “Israel anywhere near peace.
While you are reading these lines more Palestinian are being killed and rendered homeless.
“Israel” uses military power - thanks to Uncle Sam - to bring around tranquility from the muzzle of the gun.
Time alone will judge if this is a DREAM that will come TRUE..
Or if it is a nightmare that changed the HOLY LAND into a modern ghetto.
elDoraDo
07-06-2006, 08:02 PM
eldo, fear Allah, I never meant you or Reaper. You will answer for that (before Allah in the Judgement Day) inshallah. Even though I do not (mostly) agree with Reaper or with anatoliy or with anybody else, I do not call them zionist or something else (unless they call themselves by that name).
Is it not a proof of that there is no point talking to such people who have no willing to understand?!
P.S. eldorado, sometimes you behave very childish. Just because sometime I did not agree with you, or just because you do not agree with my ideas does not make us enemies.
Black,
By saying "believers" and "nons" I was only generalizing. The only part which concerned you is "i don't think that he adressed his msg to you nor asked you to comment". ;)
My msg was productive in abolishing teasing teasing, but not in self-expression. This is because I didnot express my own stand at all. If you have been observing the forum very carefully (since you could see how i behave sometimes), you may have found out about the level of my religiousness and/or about the basis I choose to build my communication with other people on.
Anyways thats enough deviation from the topic. Please go on discussing. But please next time, refrain from pushing on anybody's conscience.
PainKiller
07-06-2006, 10:41 PM
territory... and I am sure first and biggest reason for it is their religion. Second, is to mock Muslims.
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TO mock muslims, must be the last reason for keeping Jerusalem. Jerusalem is kept as it is a holy place for Jews and in Judaism.
Ur words sound like "We do not want to give our house to our neighbor cuz we want to mock them"
No, they will not give Jerusalem, as u said because it means a lot for Jewish people, and even if it did not, why do u think somebody would want to give away something which belongs to them?
PS. I strongly belive, that those sort of threads should be closed right away, as the purpose of it is obvious-to Mock the whole nation in general.
I thought that here, in forum.uz we are against of anybody who speaks up against ANY nation in general?
Call sharon a piece of sh*t, call Israeli Goverment b*stards, but why to talk about THE ENTIRE NATION?!
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