Exposing some heretical thoughts of Muhammad Abduh

[stanford]

Exposing some heretical thoughts of freemason reformer Muhammad Abduh

He said that the Islamic scholars before him had not studied logic, mathematics, history and geography, that it had been deemed as a sin to learn sciences, and that he would introduce these sciences into Islam. He denied that, for many centuries, these had been taught in every madrasa and that thousands of books had been written in these fields, thus he tried to put an end to the teaching of the Ahl as-Sunnat books and to spread the irreligious propagandas written by the enemies of Islam under the name of philosophy in Muslim countries. The opposition of the professors of Jami' al-Azhar to these propagandas was called "retrogression and enmity against knowledge, science and logic" by him.

more...

http://www.hizmetbooks.org/religion_reformers_in_islam/ref-47.htm


Muhammad Abduh

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Abduh

[Joha]

Stanford I really hope that you are not talking about Muhammad AbdulWahab?

[stanford]

Here is list of people I would like to talk about later,

Ibn Taymiyya x
Jamal Al-Din Al-Afghani
Muhammad Abduh
Sayyid Ahmad Khan
Muhammad Ikbal
Muhammad Ibn Abdul Wahhab

*Muhammad Abduh*

[JAVA]

Che to u tebya vse topici "exposing". Zadanie u tebya takoe ili ty po lichnoj iniciative, ot vsego serdca????
Nu i chto ty interesno ob Ibn Taymii budesh "expose" ????

[stanford]

Che to u tebya vse topici "exposing". Zadanie u tebya takoe ili ty po lichnoj iniciative, ot vsego serdca????
Nu i chto ty interesno ob Ibn Taymii budesh "expose" ????

If you have nothing to say on topic,do not discuss why I am here,just skip it next time.

[JAVA]

If you have nothing to say on topic,do not discuss why I am here,just skip it next time.

Prezhde chem razvodit' fitnu na forume, ty mne skazhi ty do vsego etogo sam dohodish, chitaya trudy etih uchennyh??? Nu seychas pridet drugoy cyber-scholar i zakidaet tebya "copy and paste".
Vot kogda ty prochitaesh , zadumaeshsya , razberesh' i naydesh oshibki lyubogo iz etih uchennyh vot togda budet s toboj o chem govorit' a poka, ty ne stoish i nogtya lyubogo iz etih uchennyh.

[PainKiller]

Prezhde chem razvodit' fitnu na forume, ty mne skazhi ty do vsego etogo sam dohodish, chitaya trudy etih uchennyh??? Nu seychas pridet drugoy cyber-scholar i zakidaet tebya "copy and paste".
Vot kogda ty prochitaesh , zadumaeshsya , razberesh' i naydesh oshibki lyubogo iz etih uchennyh vot togda budet s toboj o chem govorit' a poka, ty ne stoish i nogtya lyubogo iz etih uchennyh.Java, do u have any religious education or anything written in arabic makes you turn pale?:lol:

[JAVA]

Java, do u have any religious education or anything written in arabic makes you turn pale?:lol:

Ne ponyal...

[PainKiller]

Ne ponyal...yeah, happens:(
but do not get sad, u r not that bad:lol:

[JAVA]

yeah, happens:(
but do not get sad, u r not that bad:lol:

ne seryozno ne ponyal..obyasni daaaa :)

[JAVA]

stanford bratan, da ty link dal gde Saida Qutba oblivayut gryazyu...teper' s toboj vse yasno. K tvoemu svedeniyu, kem by ne byl Said Qutb, on dostojno vstretil smert', i emu v etom smisle mozhno pozavidovat'. On dostojno zhil i umer, i on stal Muchenikom shahidom , inshallah., i u tebya net nikakogo prava ego zdes' ochernyat', i bolee togo eto ne dostoynoe delo dlya lyubogo musul'manina.

[JAVA]

ogo...Mawdudi tozhe ne oboshli storonoy, ty mne skazhi luchshe kto avtor etogo truda? uveren chto ne ty...
ne mogu nayti avtora.

[Akhee-Abdullah]

Stanford - You have been given a challenge that you have not met yet. I just wanted to remind you about that. If you have forgotten it was in a topic you opened earlier named, Ibn Taymiyya was misguiding! May Allah S.T protect us from the likes of his path! http://www.forum.uz/showpost.php?p=293803&postcount=37 Before you continue with your "mission" of converting to your path of destruction, please read again this.

As Salaamu 'Alaikum wa Rahmatullah,

Stanfard, May Allaah guide us and you.

I have one challenge for you:

Look at the time and date you read this post of mine, and write it somewhere.

You have time starting from the moment you read this post of mine till the day of Resurrection to bring me proof that the way of Shaykhul Islaam Ibn Taymiyyah rahimahullah was against the way of Prophet Muhammad sallallahu layhi wa sallam and his companions and taabi'een, and those who come after them likes of (imaams): Maalik(179h), Al Awzaa'ee, Sufyaan Ath-Thawree, Suyaan Ibn Uyainah, Ismaeel ibn 'Ulayyah, Layth ibn Sa'd, Abu Haneefah An Nu'maan, Ibn Al Mubaarak, Wakee' ibn Al-Jarrah,Muhammad ibn Idris Ash Shafi' , Abdurrahman ibn Mahdee, Yahyah ibn Sa'eed Al-Qataan, Affaan ibn Muslim(219h) and others.

Then their students who followed them at the head of them:Imaam Ahmad,(241h) Yahyah ibn Ma'een, 'Alee ibn Al Madeenee.(234h) and others

Then their students like Imaam Al Bukhari(256h),Muslim, Abee Haatim,Abu Zur'ah,Abu dawood, At tirmidhi and an nasaa'ee(303h) and others.


then those who proceeded in their way:Ibn Jarir At Tabaree(310h), Ibn Khuzaymah(311h),Ad Daaraqutnee(385h), Al-Khateeb Al-Baghdadee(463h) and others.

U have time from the moment you read this till the day Resurrection.

And one more thing, Shaykhul Islaam Ibn Taymiyyah rahimahullah studied under more than 200 scholars and had tazkiyah from them. Now you name the scholars under whom you studied, and bring us tazkiyah from them.
So if you prove that you are better than Shaykhul Islaam Ibn Taymiyyah rahimahullah then I will pick up my bags and go to study under you. But inform us the scholars you really studied under and how long, how many etc...
I hope you understand meaning of word scholar. You mentioned so many books written by shaykhul islaam ibn taymiyyah rahimahullah, but name us at least one book which you have written, so we may read and benefit.

Now take your time, and bring me what I asked above.

wassalaamu 'alaikum wa rahmatullah.

[Black]

The same old song, guys don't you fed up such useless dicussions?
I ask moderators (Observer) to delete this thread, because we have such threads (too many of them) before. I think it will be wise to delete it.

Peace.

[Gareeb]

Another hypocritical attempt to discredit Ulama of Islam.Just ignore it.

[stanford]

Akhee Abdulla who is author of "Challenge"? You or somebody else?
Do you or does the challenge author qualify to regard the sources which I will bring from Ulama of Ahli Sunnah as wrong or right?

I personally recommend you guys to stay on topic.If you have anything to say about topic please share your information ,you are more then welcome to do so, if No please do not confuse people.

[Akhee-Abdullah]

Akhee Abdulla who is author of "Challenge"? You or somebody else?
Do you or does the challenge author qualify to regard the sources which I will bring from Ulama of Ahli Sunnah as wrong or right?

I personally recommend you guys to stay on topic.If you have anything to say about topic please share your information ,you are more then welcome to do so, if No please do not confuse people.

The author of the challenge is AbdurRahman, open the link I quoted earlier if you forgotten that fast. He is more knowledgable and nicer than I am. You know me I do not challenge you, does not fit my character!

In terms of your post, does not hold any water. I would rather recommend you to busy yourself gaining knowledge rather than gossipping and eating the flesh of Muslimeen in the month of Ramadan, you know it is strictly forbidden.

Assalam alaikum.

Moderators - this user is violating "Haqorat qilish, so’kinish v.h. – ularning milliy va diniy hislarini haqoratlash." section of Forum rules.

5. Haqorat qilish, so’kinish v.h. – Forumning boshqa a’zolarini, suhbatdoshlarni haqoratlash, ularning milliy va diniy hislarini haqoratlash, forumda so’kinish, kurakda turmaydigan gaplarni ishlatish qat’iy ta’qiqlanadi. Bu Warning, qo’pol holatlarda Ban bilan jazolanadi.

I ask you, please to delete this thread and give the owner of the post warning. This person will not, in my opinion, stop accusing muslims of Ahlis Sunnah wal Jamaah, kafirs and heretics. Especially, the ones I consider to be the Ulema of Hanbali madhab, Sheikhul Islaam Ibn Taymiya Rahimahullah, Sheikh Muhammad Ibn Abdul Wahhab and other than them of Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jamaah.

He is insulting my religious feelings despite the fact I have communicated this message several times.

I believe, he reserves the right to express his opinions and I respect his rights. However, it does not by all means give him a privilage of insulting others' beliefs in certain things in Islaam.

He can by all means teach his beliefs, his version of "HisTory", I cannot object to that. However, not at the expense of bashing other Ulemah who are considered the spearheads of the Muslimeen against Kufr, Shirk and detested Bidaah, innovated practices and beliefs in the religion.

I suggest that rather he would post, "this is the beliefs of my Imaams in terms of Aqeedah and etc," without calling anyone kaffir or his beliefs heretical. I would say this would have been correct and appropriate. Again, I do not want and like my Ulema do be called Heretics, I consider this insult, I ask you again dear Moderators to look into this matter seriously.

Waassalam alaikum wa rahmatullahi.

[stanford]

Akhee Abdulla Your "post" is certainly not good enough, and we are not at enemy stage since you declare the teachings of Diynul-Haq and post hadiths from different kind of sources. I didn't say you insulted me, I meant you are only supporting what I believe is wrong. Can two people oppose each other on their belief or should one of them be banned 'cause he or she opposing and telling you are wrong.It is not tale or fiction,both of us taking from some kind of sources which we believe are appropriate for us. No, I can't look into your head, I made no claims to being a scholar or academic of any type; but from what you write around and around , makes me suspicious that what is in your head is that everything against true teachings of Islam. In short, you are confused by your own threads, and your reluctance to explain the truth is because although you may take it on faith or belief, you still have no understanding of it as a truth.Do not read my threads and do not reply if you are willing to do so.But remember I have a right to oppose your belief and share information as a member of this forum.

Make Allah S.T accept our duas from you and us and guide to the right path.

[SHOHRUHM1]

Standford!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Firstly why did you put "god father's" pic to represent you??? Is that cuz of his "nickname" or you relate yourself with him??? that's one one thing strange about you.
Secondly your arguements are ridiculous, and i am assuming that u just got some baseless texts on the interent about what u are argueing now and presumed that u have "super" knowledge now and can challange and even turn these people in to heretics.
Very strange guy.

[real_life]

to standford
Better occupy urself with ibadah and ta'leem, before criticising a scholar at least read one of his books. Learn abt that scholar and learn his teachings. It's not wise to criticise oneself by other's opinion and different links. It's not good to eat a flesh of a muslim, it's a great sin, especially in this month, and ur sin will be greater if this muslim is dead, and it will be more greater if it as a scholar (of Islam). Try to increase ur knowledge and know at least small part of what they knew.
Олимларни гийбат килиш хакида....
....”Олимлар пайгамбарларнинг меросхўрлари”, дейилади хадиси набавияда. Дархакикат ушбу хадисга эътибор килинса кўп хикматлар жам булган бўлишини кўриши мумкин. Яхшиликлар пардаланган дунёнинг пардаси факат Аллох Раббил оламийн такдир килган инсонларга очилди. Улар пайгамбарлар, сахобалар ва олимлардир. Улар ўз замонасининг илгор инсонлари бўлишди. Пайгамбарлар, сахобаларнинг даври тугаган бўлсада уларнинг меросхўрлари-олимлар кийёматгача давом этади. Хазрати Абу Ханифа вафот этган йили хз. Имоми Шофеи тугилгани сингари замин олимларсиз колмайди иншааллох. Илм олимларнинг йўк бўлиши билан кўтарилади. Олимларни яхши кўриш, уларни хурмат килиш фатволарига эргашиш уммат учун хамиша хайр бўлган. Олимларга тош отганларга Аллохнинг балоси ёгилган. Бугун хам орамизда олимлар хусусида турли гапларни ташиб юрадиганлар бор. Гийбатларнинг адоги йўк. Тўрт кунлик умрини келиб келиб олимлар хакида сухбатлашиб ўтказиб юбораётганимиз кўпчиликни ташвишлантирмаяпти. Аслида биз маъсул эмасмидикки, олимларни эъзозлашга, ёнларимиздан бўлса хам уларнинг ишларини енгиллаштиришга. Шайтон кечаларини ибодат билан ўтказадиган обид ўлса у кадар хурсанд бўлмас экан, аммо олимнинг ўлими уни хадсиз шодликлар сари етаклар экан... Шайтон исломни ким ва кай тарзда ушлаб турганини инсонлардан яхширок билади. Шайтонни шодлантирган вокеилик муминлар учун мусибат бўлиши керак. Олимни саклаб кола олмаган умматни хайр тарк этади... У уммат ўзига берилган неъматдан очикчасига юз ўгирган хисобланади. Аллох таоло Куръонни ўзи химоя килишини айтган, унинг каломи инсонларга то киёматга кадар олимлар тамонидан етказилади. Гийбат харом аммо харом амалнинг икки баробар харомлиги унинг жирканч боскичини босиб ўтмогидир. Аллохга энг кўп такво киладиган инсонлар макомини олган уламолар хакида гап ташиш уларнинг шанига турли номакбул гапларни айтишдан кўркиш керак. Расуллуллох с.а.в мактаган зотлар хакида гап кетаётганини биласизми биродар, деб тўхтатиб кўйиш керак, гийбатчиларни ёки бу сўзларни жон кулоги билан тинглаётган даврани тарк этиш лозим. Бу даврада хайр йук. Бу даврага Аллох рахматини юбормайди. Бу давра эгалари ўлгунларига кадар тавба килмасалар ишлари огир бўлади....

Токи олимлар кўзи билан дунёни кузата олмас эканмиз, кўйинг шундогам юкимиз огир дунёда уларни тинч кўйайлик. Сарвари олам с.а.в бир куни бир устун олдида хутба ўкиётган эдилар. Шунда сахобалар у зот с.а.вга минбар куриб беришди, шунда халиги устун йиглаган экан. Аллохнинг расули олдидан кетиб колганини кўриб устун фарёд чека бошлади Расули акрам с.а.в буни кўриб устунни кўриб юпатган эканлар. Ушбу вокеани ўкир экан Хасан Басрий кавмига карата шу ёгоччалик бўлмасангиз-а... Расулуллох с.а.в ни шу ёгоччалик яхши кўрмасангиз-а... дерди... Хасан Басрий олим зот эди. У кавмини залолатга кетиб колишини тўсган инсонлардан хисобланади. Олимлар хадис илмида бизланинг кўзларимиз илгамайдиган, бизнинг фахмимиз идрок кила олмайдиган жихатларни кўришади. Устун йиглаганлиги ва Расуллуллох с.а.в уни юпатганликларини тасдиклаган холда шу ёгоччалик бўла олмайсизларми деб танбех берган зотлар хар бир кавмга керак. Агар ана шундай инсонларни хор киладиган бўлса бу уммат хорликка юз тутади. Агар биз бугун олимларимиз хакида гапиришни тўхтатмасак, эртага бизнинг гийбатларимиз семириб кетишига шубха йўк. Юмшоккина кор учкунларини юмалатиб корбобо ясаган мисол, бизнинг сўзларимиз олимларнинг йўколишига сабаб бўлади. Гийбат олимларни йўкотиш учун кўйилган дастлабки кадамдир. Агар котиликка рози бўлсангиз тилингизга эрк беринг мархамат. Аллох котилларнинг жазосини берадиган зот. Бир куни сахобалар сухбатлашиб колишди. Улар шу уйда Ислом учун ниманинг тўла бўлиб колиши яхши дея бахслашар эди. Кимдир бир уй тўла олтин ва уни харажат килиш натижасида ислом гуркираб кетишини айтди. Кимнингдир фикрича бир уй шахидалар бўлсада ва улар жиходга чикиб кетаётганида Аллох учун кон тўкиб жон берса... Шунда хз. Умар р.а деди, менга бир уй Абу Убайда бўлса эди. Абу Убайда улуг сахобий, мужтахид олим. Амирул муминун хак сўзни айтган эди: бир уй шахид ё бошка нарсалардан кўра бир уй олим бўлса исломга ана шунинг фойдаси кўпрок эди. Инсоф билан айтинг сизга хам шу таклиф килинса ва фалон одамни олиб келиш имкони бўлса, бир уй фалон олим бўлса эди демасмидингиз... Биз шахсан дер эдик...
Шунча гапдан кейин олимлар хакида гийбат килишдан тўхтармиз деган умиддамиз...
wassalamu alaykum.
P.S. this thread is indeed worth deleting

[stanford]

Real_life It seems that you have some sources that I have not been able to get a hold of. Would you mind providing me with a link to the page you have posted so I can take a look and better learn of ?

[Black]

Observer delete this thread pls. It is open fitnah, stanford has very little knowledge (of anything) and he is just coping-pasting some texts from internet. His purpose is to make fitnah among muslims. It is not good (at least).

[PainKiller]

Observer delete this thread pls. It is open fitnah, stanford has very little knowledge (of anything) and he is just coping-pasting some texts from internet. His purpose is to make fitnah among muslims. It is not good (at least).yahshi yolini topib olibsanlarmi? Chut' chto "Apservir, kloz zi tred" Black, borib kitobini oki, agar mavzu yuzasidan gapiradigan gapin bomasa.,
Assalomu Aleykum
Rozelar muborak kelsin.

[Black]

yahshi yolini topib olibsanlarmi? Chut' chto "Apservir, kloz zi tred" Black, borib kitobini oki, agar mavzu yuzasidan gapiradigan gapin bomasa.,
Assalomu Aleykum
Rozelar muborak kelsin.
1) I did not address you Inko .
2) Alhamdulillah, I amm sure I know much more than you in Islam, and you are noot in position to point me what to read.
3) I gave the reasons why I said to close the thread. He violates forum rules:
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If you search forum, religion board, there are so many such related threads, and in all of them our super-muper-duper scholar, who knows only to copy-paste stanford runs away when some challange put before him. Still the challanges are before him. But he cannot reply them.
My point is clear. To stop flesh eaters to spread their stupid stinky najas here. Only loosers do it.
4) No need to reply for my every post. Just tell me that you don't like me. I would have replied you, but... I am fasting.

Inko, borib kitobini oki, agar mavzu yuzasidan gapiradigan gapin bomasa.,

[Cimkent]

The author of the challenge is AbdurRahman, open the link I quoted earlier if you forgotten that fast. He is more knowledgable and nicer than I am. You know me I do not challenge you, does not fit my character!

In terms of your post, does not hold any water. I would rather recommend you to busy yourself gaining knowledge rather than gossipping and eating the flesh of Muslimeen in the month of Ramadan, you know it is strictly forbidden.

Assalam alaikum.

Moderators - this user is violating "Haqorat qilish, so’kinish v.h. – ularning milliy va diniy hislarini haqoratlash." section of Forum rules.



I ask you, please to delete this thread and give the owner of the post warning. This person will not, in my opinion, stop accusing muslims of Ahlis Sunnah wal Jamaah, kafirs and heretics. Especially, the ones I consider to be the Ulema of Hanbali madhab, Sheikhul Islaam Ibn Taymiya Rahimahullah, Sheikh Muhammad Ibn Abdul Wahhab and other than them of Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jamaah.

He is insulting my religious feelings despite the fact I have communicated this message several times.

I believe, he reserves the right to express his opinions and I respect his rights. However, it does not by all means give him a privilage of insulting others' beliefs in certain things in Islaam.

He can by all means teach his beliefs, his version of "HisTory", I cannot object to that. However, not at the expense of bashing other Ulemah who are considered the spearheads of the Muslimeen against Kufr, Shirk and detested Bidaah, innovated practices and beliefs in the religion.

I suggest that rather he would post, "this is the beliefs of my Imaams in terms of Aqeedah and etc," without calling anyone kaffir or his beliefs heretical. I would say this would have been correct and appropriate. Again, I do not want and like my Ulema do be called Heretics, I consider this insult, I ask you again dear Moderators to look into this matter seriously.

Waassalam alaikum wa rahmatullahi.


dumini bossang moderatorga siginarkanku bu vovchiklar
ozlari islom olimlarini haqoratlashganda olam guliston ediku/

bas bular ikki yuzlamachi...

[Cimkent]

to standford

Олимларни гийбат килиш хакида....






inshalloh bu gaplar vahhobiylar uchun ham tegishlidir deb umid qilamiz. mazhab olimlariga til tekkazishdan uzoq turishsin.
shunda ularni dumini ham hech kim bosmaydi va ular sig'inayotgan shaslarga ham hech kim pisht demaydi...

[Akhee-Abdullah]

inshalloh bu gaplar vahhobiylar uchun ham tegishlidir deb umid qilamiz. mazhab olimlariga til tekkazishdan uzoq turishsin.
shunda ularni dumini ham hech kim bosmaydi va ular sig'inayotgan shaslarga ham hech kim pisht demaydi...


Taqsir-Iltimos haqorat qilmangiz muslimonlarni.

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Al-Hujurat Surasi, 11 oyatda Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala Shunday:

Эй иймон келтирганлар ! Бир Kавм бошkасини масхара Kилмасин, эxтимол улар булардан яхшироkдир. Ва аёллар xам бошkа аёлларни (масхара kилмасин), эxтимол улар булардан яхшироkдир. Ва ўзингизни ўзингиз мазах kилманг, бир-бирингизга лаkаб kўйманг. Иймондан кейин фосиkлик исми наkадар ёмон ! Ва ким тавба kилмаса, бас, ана ўшалар ўзлари золимлардир.

(Албатта масхара ёмон одат бўлиб, жамият аъзолари ўртасидаги ўзаро алоkаларнинг бузилишига сабаб бўлади. Бир одам иккинчисини масхара kилса, камситса, устидан кулса, албатта, масхара kилинган одамнинг аччиrи чиkади, у xам масхара kилувчига ўзига яраша жавоб беришга уринади. Орада низо-жанжал чиkади, ижтимоий алоkалар бузилади ва жамият заифлашади. Ислом эса доимо мусулмонлар жамиятининг мустаxкам бўлиши учун kайrуради. Шунинг учун xам ушбу ояти каримада Аллоx таоло инсонларни бир-бирини масхара kилишдан kайтармоkда.)

demadimi???

Wa Ar-Rum Surasining 32 chi oyatlarida Robbingiz:

Динларида тафриkага тушган, гуруx-гуруx бўлиб олиб, xар бир фирkа ўз олдидаги нарсадан шод бўлганлардан (бўлманг).

(Мушрикликнинг бир маъноси Аллоxга шерик келтириш бўлса-да, дунёда мушрикликдан кўп нарса бўлмаса керак. Чунки мушриклар динларида фирkаланиб кетган. Аллоx таоло мусулмонларни шулар каби тафриkага тушмасликка амр kилмоkда.)

demadimi?!

Bizga Allahning fazli kifoya qilgan buldi, alhamdulillah, Muzammil Surasi, 10 chi oyat:

Ва уларнинг (хакорат) гапларига сабр kил ва улардан чиройли четлашла, четлаб тур.

[Ahli Sunnat]

[quote=Akhee-Abdullah]Taqsir-Iltimos haqorat qilmangiz muslimonlarni.

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[Akhee-Abdullah]

[quote=Akhee-Abdullah]Taqsir-Iltimos haqorat qilmangiz muslimonlarni.

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unaqa yiglayvermaylade.
odam oxirini o'tylab ish qilish kereyde

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Alhamdulillah Muslimonmiz, Imamlarimiz Abu Haneefah An-Numon, Imam Ash-Shafeeylar, Imam Malikiylar wa Imam Ahmadlarga osiy bulmadik.

Ularni Imomlarimiz, maslakimiz boshi deb bildik.

Wassalam alaikum wa rahmatullah.