New Uzbek Alphabet: What do you think?

[Frida]

Yangi O'zbek alifbosi haqida fikringizni bilmoqchi edim. Uni ishlatasizmi? Yoki Kiril alifbosini hush ko'rasizmi?

I was just wondering what is your opinion about Uzbek Romanized Alphabet? Do you ever use it? Would you prefer Cyrillic Alphabet?

[uki]

Yangi O'zbek alifbosi haqida fikringizni bilmoqchi edim. Uni ishlatasizmi? Yoki Kiril alifbosini hush ko'rasizmi?

I was just wondering what is your opinion about Uzbek Romanized Alphabet? Do you ever use it? Would you prefer Cyrillic Alphabet?

lotin alifbisi ancha qulay manga.

[Frida]

Lotin alifbosida yetarlicha savodliman deb hisoblaysizmi o'zingizni? Masalan, qachon - y harfini yozish kerak, qachon ayirish belgisini yozish kerak emas? Shunga o'xshagan

[Frida]

narsalarni hisobga olganda Lotin Alifbosini 100% bilaman deya olasizmi?

[Welsh]

Kim nimaga organgan bosa usha qulay. Masalan man maktabda oqigan paytda kiril alifbosi oqitilardi, hozirgacha manga ozbek tilida yozilgan textni kiril alifbosi oqish qulayroq (yozishni va boshqa tillani nazarda tutmaganda).

Bu narsa tatbiq qilinganiga ancha yil boldi, lekin shu vaqtgacha aniq sababini tushunomadim :rolleyes: Nima keregi boridi older generation ni savodsiz qilib. Hozir lotin alifbosini bilmidigan odamla savodsiz degani de.

Just another stupid policy of narrow minded people, who are not brave enough to admit their mistake :evil:

[Amiri Turkiston]

manga lotincha qulayroq
lekin kiril alifbosini o'qiganman...lekin manga bu qulay degani emas

menimcha man ja 100% ga bilmasam ham 98% bilaman

kirilchada yozishni eplagan lotinchada ham yozaveradi
orfogafiyada sust bulgan odamga farqi yo'q...qaysi alfavitda yozishi lol

[Frida]

I kind of agree with you but at the same time another question --- the main reason here I believe is to be more secular "close to western countries" --- and away from Russia. However, it makes us to be closer to illitirate countries rather than to Western countries. Also I remember, they tried to introduce Arabic first and in early 90's Arabic script was taught at schools - at least in my school (in Tashkent). So at any rate, I am glad that we didnt change to Arabic. That would make the whole population of Uzbekistan be illitirate for ages.

[wow_kabob]

Yangi O'zbek alifbosi haqida fikringizni bilmoqchi edim. Uni ishlatasizmi? Yoki Kiril alifbosini hush ko'rasizmi?

I was just wondering what is your opinion about Uzbek Romanized Alphabet? Do you ever use it? Would you prefer Cyrillic Alphabet?


qaren telephon # berin anchadan beri man sizga uhshagan qizni qidirvotuvdim telephonda siz bilan faqat fikirla Almashtirmoqchiman

[uki]

qaren telephon # berin anchadan beri man sizga uhshagan qizni qidirvotuvdim telephonda siz bilan faqat fikirla Almashtirmoqchiman

bu yer forum, tanishuv byurosimas...

:D :D :D

[DilDor]

I think it would be better if it would stay as way it is...because is 'they' will change it again....it would be the same story....young generation would be all uneducated worse than they are now:(

[Colpan]

Maybe they wanted an illiterate Uzbekistan?

think about this.

[illusion]

Maybe they wanted an illiterate Uzbekistan?

think about this.

Absolutely agree with you! This is one of the reasons the alphabet was changed to Latin...

I feel really sorry for the kids who are currently receiving their education in Latin Alphabet (including my little sister)...Just imagine: all classic russian and uzbek books were printed in Cyrillic. I know they are trying to re-print those books in Latin, but they will never be able to re-print all the greatest masterpieces of the past.

[Han]

Yangi O'zbek alifbosi haqida fikringizni bilmoqchi edim. Uni ishlatasizmi? Yoki Kiril alifbosini hush ko'rasizmi?

I was just wondering what is your opinion about Uzbek Romanized Alphabet? Do you ever use it? Would you prefer Cyrillic Alphabet?


Yangi O'ZBEK ALIFBOsini o'lganimni kunidan ishlatyapman desam bo'ladi.

Chunki kirilni o'zida tilimizni to'liq ifodalashimizga mone' bo'lgan ba'zi kamchiliklar bor edi. Tilchiolar yahshi bilishadi buni.

alifbo lotinga alamashadi degan gap chiqqanida quvongandim. Lotinga o'tayotganimiz uchun emas. balki almashish bahonasida kamchiliklari ham bartaraf etiladi deya.

lekin eskisidan battar bo'ldi menimcha. yangisidan kirilchani o'lsa o'ligi ortig'u lekin ba'zan qarshi tarafga yetib borishi uchun qo'llanamiz da nachora.

[ziyoda81]

Yangi O'zbek alifbosi haqida fikringizni bilmoqchi edim. Uni ishlatasizmi? Yoki Kiril alifbosini hush ko'rasizmi?

I was just wondering what is your opinion about Uzbek Romanized Alphabet? Do you ever use it? Would you prefer Cyrillic Alphabet?
Men uchun kiril alifbosi yaqinroq va osonroq, yangi alifbosini majburan ishlataman, hamma baddiy kitoblarni kirilicada o'qiman.

[Gareeb]

Men uchun kiril alifbosi yaqinroq va osonroq, yangi alifbosini majburan ishlataman, hamma baddiy kitoblarni kirilicada o'qiman.
Menga ham shunday.Ammo lotinchani PCda ishlatish qulay.

[uki]

Kirl alifbosining kup yaxshi tomonlari bulishi mumkin, lotin alifbosining ham kup qiyinchiliklari bulishi mumkin...

faqat suni ham unutmaylikki, kirill alifbosi bu - mustamlakaligimizning bir simvolidir!!! Yuz yil utib, uzbekiston gullab ketsa ham, u bizda bir tamga sifatida qolaveradi...

Hukumatning bu politikasining kup yomon tomonlari busa ham, oxirigacha qollab quvatlayman...

[Shokirbek]

Kirl alifbosining kup yaxshi tomonlari bulishi mumkin, lotin alifbosining ham kup qiyinchiliklari bulishi mumkin...

faqat suni ham unutmaylikki, kirill alifbosi bu - mustamlakaligimizning bir simvolidir!!! Yuz yil utib, uzbekiston gullab ketsa ham, u bizda bir tamga sifatida qolaveradi...

Hukumatning bu politikasining kup yomon tomonlari busa ham, oxirigacha qollab quvatlayman...

Eee o'rgildim. "Mustamlaka simvoli!!!" emish. Ukam, "latin harfi" ozodlik simvolimi?

Krillning ikoniyatlariyu Lotinning imkoniyatlarida gapirsangiz yaxshi bo'ladi, chunki ikki harf ham o'zbek tarixiga yot harflardir.

P.S. O'sha mustamlaka vaqtida o'zbeklar hozirgidan erkinroq edi.

[Welsh]

faqat suni ham unutmaylikki, kirill alifbosi bu - mustamlakaligimizning bir simvolidir!!! Yuz yil utib, uzbekiston gullab ketsa ham, u bizda bir tamga sifatida qolaveradi...


Eee o'rgildim. "Mustamlaka simvoli!!!" emish. Ukam, "latin harfi" ozodlik simvolimi?

Krillning ikoniyatlariyu Lotinning imkoniyatlarida gapirsangiz yaxshi bo'ladi, chunki ikki harf ham o'zbek tarixiga yot harflardir.

P.S. O'sha mustamlaka vaqtida o'zbeklar hozirgidan erkinroq edi.

Mustamlakalik simvoli ??? Lotin alifbosi chi, bizani ota-bobolarimiz kashf qilgan alfbomi? Balkim arab alifbosidir? Ozi olib qarasa hammasiyam tarihimizni malum bir vaqtlaridan qolgan mustamlakalik simvoli.
Bu ketishda yaqinda rasm chizib fikrimizani bayon etishga otamiza.
Odamlarga ish yuritish uchun qaysi til qulay bosa usha tilni ishlatish kere. Togri, hozir yosh avlod lotinni kirilga qaraganda ancha yahshi bilishadi, lekin hamma organib olguncha 20-30 yil kere boladi.
Qanchalik yomon bomasin tarihimizdan uyalishimiz, bekitishimiz keremas. Manimcha unchalik yomon bomagan...

[uki]

shokirbek va welsh, lotin ham kiril alifbosi ham tariximizda bumagan
faqat farq shundaki lotin alifbosini biz uzimiz tanladik, kiril alifbosini bizga majbur tanlattirishdi...

nima busa ham lotin alifbosi uzbekning uzining tanlagan alifbosidir...

[CX_ETKO_CX]

Yangi O'zbek alifbosi haqida fikringizni bilmoqchi edim. Uni ishlatasizmi? Yoki Kiril alifbosini hush ko'rasizmi?

lotin juda yahshi lekin Ozbekiston lotin alifbosingi hotoli koraman :(
Anadolu Turklerinden salomlar !

[MUHLIS]

Latin.Latin.Latin. Cyrillic letters are spesific to slavic nations.
Why some slavic nations such as Poland, Former Yugoslaviya republics, etc use Latin letter, not cyrilic? Try think about this.

[Hamid]

this is the way to brainwash, I would prefer cyrillic, but it is laready too late, coming generation will suffer a lot more than we, and olders. Older people had more sources to learn, just staying in the country, at the moment if you are inside teh country and don't have much access to places like big libraries and internet, you almost don't have many sources in latin. Our libraries in schools were cleared of almost all the books, they received a list, to clear everything on that list. and another example comes from university, when I was in NUU chemistry department, you could only find very very few uzbek books to study, and a lot in russian, so imagine you don't know how to red cyrillic, but also don't have a clue what the russian language is, and you are expected to be a chemistry student, and answer questions from all the books your professor have ever read.
We should do more to make this change take place in a quicker and most effective way, I am not supporter of government, I am a supporter of the nation.

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[Marg'iloniy]

bulgan ish bo'ldi, uje lotinchaga urganib qoldik, endi Rossiyaga yaqinlashib yana kirill qilamiz dishmasi bugani.
100% bilaman dep aytolmiman, chunki yozuvlarda haliyam xato qilaman.
' bilan ` farqini yaqinda tushinib oldim.

Yangi O'zbek alifbosi haqida fikringizni bilmoqchi edim. Uni ishlatasizmi? Yoki Kiril alifbosini hush ko'rasizmi?

I was just wondering what is your opinion about Uzbek Romanized Alphabet? Do you ever use it? Would you prefer Cyrillic Alphabet?

[MUHLIS]

this is the way to brainwash, I would prefer cyrillic, but it is laready too late, coming generation will suffer a lot more than we, and olders.
OF course, tt is your choice to prefer one alphabet over another. But in order to make our new generation "suffer" less, we need to make up our minds instead of always looking back.
Older people had more sources to learn, just staying in the country, at the moment if you are inside teh country and don't have much access to places like big libraries and internet, you almost don't have many sources in latin.
Having "not much sources" in latin letters is not the disadvantage of the alphabet, it is the result of insufficient attention to this process by the government. I will not surprised if they will deside to switch back to cyrillic since we are already back in the hugs of our old big brother.
Our libraries in schools were cleared of almost all the books, they received a list, to clear everything on that list. and another example comes from university, when I was in NUU chemistry department, you could only find very very few uzbek books to study, and a lot in russian, so imagine you don't know how to red cyrillic
One guy that I know is also studying at NUU currently and he also complains about the lack of literature in our native language. Again this is not the disadvantage of the new alphabet. It is the fault of our scientific community and government. We keep ignoring the importance of native language in learning sciences. We got a lot of scientists and professors with all kinds of honors why do not they create/write literature in our native language?
but also don't have a clue what the russian language is, and you are expected to be a chemistry student, and answer questions from all the books your professor have ever read.
That guy also knows no russian and now learning it, because there is no suffifient literature in Uzbek available. We brag with our science, but have not enough books in our language to learn sciences. What a paradox!!!
We should do more to make this change take place in a quicker and most effective way, I am not supporter of government, I am a supporter of the nation.
Absolutely agree with you here. We need be more efficient and steadfast instead of always resisting to change and using old russian books in education.
Face it, in the global level russian language does not matter much in comparision to English. Russians themselves learn English as a second language, including those who live in Uzbekistan. Ironically, they usually know only a few words in Uzbek.
We must take example from Russians and begin learning English as a second language. We should not allow russians to be the only language for us to participate in global affairs be it science, business, or technology.

[Shokirbek]

bulgan ish bo'ldi, uje lotinchaga urganib qoldik, endi Rossiyaga yaqinlashib yana kirill qilamiz dishmasi bugani.
100% bilaman dep aytolmiman, chunki yozuvlarda haliyam xato qilaman.
' bilan ` farqini yaqinda tushinib oldim.

Avatiringizni ko'rgan odam krillga da'vat deb tushunadi.

[MUHLIS]

Eee o'rgildim. "Mustamlaka simvoli!!!" emish. Ukam, "latin harfi" ozodlik simvolimi?

Krillning ikoniyatlariyu Lotinning imkoniyatlarida gapirsangiz yaxshi bo'ladi, chunki ikki harf ham o'zbek tarixiga yot harflardir.

P.S. O'sha mustamlaka vaqtida o'zbeklar hozirgidan erkinroq edi.
Aziz birodarim, sizga biroz optimizm va idealizm zarar qilmasdi.
Ikkita yomonning o'rtasidan "yaxshirog'i"ni qidirgandan ko'ra hayrli natijalarga umid qilgan yaxshi.

[Shokirbek]

Aziz birodarim, sizga biroz optimizm va idealizm zarar qilmasdi.
Ikkita yomonning o'rtasidan "yaxshirog'i"ni qidirgandan ko'ra hayrli natijalarga umid qilgan yaxshi.

Tog'ri aytasiz, xayri natijalarni umid qilib qolamiz.

[Marg'iloniy]

Avatiringizni ko'rgan odam krillga da'vat deb tushunadi.
:D :D :D ......

[Gani]

Yangi O'zbek alifbosi haqida fikringizni bilmoqchi edim. Uni ishlatasizmi? Yoki Kiril alifbosini hush ko'rasizmi?

I was just wondering what is your opinion about Uzbek Romanized Alphabet? Do you ever use it? Would you prefer Cyrillic Alphabet?


Kirilni bizni istemolimizga majburlab kiritishdi.
lotinni biz tanlaganmizku ya lekin alfavitdagi harf shakllarini yana majburlab qabul qildirishdi da.

bitta tilchi profdan eshitgandim. u kishi lotinga o'tishimizdan avval hukumat tuzgan komissiya a'zosi sifatida hozirgi qardosh halqlar tili, turkiy tillar kategoriyasiga kiradigan millatlar tili ustida izlanish oborishgan ekan. bizdan avval lotinga o'tgan Azarbayjon, Turkmanistonni va asosan turkiyani alfavitini yaqindan o'rganishgan ekan. lekin nechchiyam sahifalik raport bilan yurtboshimizzi qabuliga borishganda u janoblari ikkita angliyalik bilan Yangi O'zbek Alifbosi harflarini belgilab bo'lib yastanib o'tirgan ekanlar. shuundan keyin hozirgi bitta tovushni ikkita harf bilan yozadigan, apostroflik galati alfavit chiqqan ekan. chunki lotinga o'tish ideyasini yurtboshimizga Turg'ut O'zal berganmish, yaqinroq bo'laylik deb. bizzaniki u o'lgandan keyin o'zini tojikligiga borib haligidaqa hol qo'ygan ekan.

rivoyatlar mana shunaqa, yana ham kim biladi deysiz?.
alfavitimizni ishlatish qulaysizligiga qaraydigan bo'lsak prof. rost gapirganga o'xshaydi.

[dili@]

Menga esa englis tili maqul! men hayotimni 8 yilini aqshda o'tqasgan man. To'g'risini aytganimda menga o'zbek maktabi yo'qmaydi. Men umuman rus tili va kirilcha yo'zishni bilmayman! I' ma inglish girl who was born in Tosh.

[Gareeb]

Menga esa englis tili maqul! men hayotimni 8 yilini aqshda o'tqasgan man. To'g'risini aytganimda menga o'zbek maktabi yo'qmaydi. Men umuman rus tili va kirilcha yo'zishni bilmayman! I' ma inglish girl who was born in Tosh.
:D :D :D :D :lol: