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infolife
11-07-2005, 11:42 AM
Bu yerda kim dinda nimani bilmagan bo'sayu hozir bilmoqchi yoki bilib olgan bo'lsa share qilamiz. E.G: men har doim musulmonlikni qabul qilganlarga converted ishlatardim, noto'gri ekan, reverted deyish kerek ekan.

Don't use the word convert to someone who used to be another religion before Islam. Use Revert, cos everyone is born muslim,they come back to Islam.
I was:shock: when I read it,interesting int?
whatever u find interesting post pliiiiiiiiiiiiiiz,shunga o'hshagan narsalar bo'sa marhamat:)

Samimiy
11-07-2005, 12:35 PM
Bu yerda kim dinda nimani bilmagan bo'sayu hozir bilmoqchi yoki bilib olgan bo'lsa share qilamiz. E.G: men har doim musulmonlikni qabul qilganlarga converted ishlatardim, noto'gri ekan, reverted deyish kerek ekan.

Don't use the word convert to someone who used to be another religion before Islam. Use Revert, cos everyone is born muslim,they come back to Islam.
I was:shock: when I read it,interesting int?
whatever u find interesting post pliiiiiiiiiiiiiiz,shunga o'hshagan narsalar bo'sa marhamat:)

Lekin convert urniga revert ishlatsangiz har safar sababini tushuntirib utirishingiz kerak. Chunki inglizcha biladiganlarning 99.9% i bilmaydi. Men uzim ham siz aytgangacha bilmasdim. Menimcha bu kontekstda revert convertni "replace" qilmaydi :)

Yana bitta misol, bu kengroq tarqalgan. Nima uchun musulmonlar (bazan musulmonlardan boshqalar ham) "miloddan oldingi" uchun inglizchada BC urniga BCE, "milodiy" uchun AD urniga CE ishlatishadi?
-Chunki BC degani Before Christ degani, uning urniga BCE - Before Christian Era maqulroq :)
AD esa lotincha Anno Domini - the year of our Lord degani. Musulmonlar Iso paygambarni "Lord" qabul qilmaganimiz uchun, CE - Christian Era suzlarini ishatamiz.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anno_Domini

infolife
11-07-2005, 03:53 PM
Did u know that Frawn's wife Asia was among 4 women metioned by Muhammad SAW and in the Qur'an. 4 women Qur'an mentions:
Mariyam-prophet's mother
Asia- Firawn's wife
Hadeecha-prophet SAW's wife
Fatima- Prophet SAW's daughter.

U know why Firauns wife was among them???

infolife
11-08-2005, 10:46 AM
Y know know on Zeena-egypt festival, when Musa as stood against 70 best magicisians of the Egypt, his stick turned into snake and ate all the snakes of the Magicians. Magicians threw their sticks first and they turned into terrbible snakes but Musa's snake ate them out.
What was the difference between Musa's as snake and magicians snakes???

Uzbekxonim
11-08-2005, 11:15 AM
cos everyone is born muslim,they come back to Islam.

mashu gapni qattan oldingiz? juda g'alati bo'lib tuyilyapti...

Alouddin
11-08-2005, 11:32 AM
Honum, every human being is born Muslim by default. Their enviroment, surrounding and parents, as one of primary factors, influence their lives and thus promote their further conversion into christianity, judaism and etc -isms. check out a hadeeth of The Prophet saw.

peace

infolife
11-08-2005, 02:56 PM
Alima classes olyappan, o'shatta aytti. Don't say convert say revert deb. Nimaga desam shuni Alouddin aytgandek qilib chuntirib berdi. Qizig'a juda bilmagan ekanman.
Did u also know that the roman king Hiracus beleived in Mohammad saw that he was indeed the messenger of Allah swt.
Do u know why he beleived?
menimcha bu narsalarni forumda ko'pchilik biladi deb o'ylagandim, ne javob yuk yo men ham topganga sovg'am bor desam ine hamma yozadi shekilli:)
mashu gapni qattan oldingiz? juda g'alati bo'lib tuyilyapti...

Hamid
11-08-2005, 03:13 PM
Y know know on Zeena-egypt festival, when Musa as stood against 70 best magicisians of the Egypt, his stick turned into snake and ate all the snakes of the Magicians. Magicians threw their sticks first and they turned into terrbible snakes but Musa's snake ate them out.
What was the difference between Musa's as snake and magicians snakes???
the sticks the magicians throw never turned into snakes, people saw them as snakes, but the stick in Musa(a.s) hand became a real snake and ate every single stick, so all of the magicians accepted that he was a messenger from Allah. And if you follow the ayahs in Qur'an, pharaoh threaned to cut their hands and legs in crosses, but they were firm on their believes.

hh

Hamid
11-08-2005, 03:19 PM
mashu gapni qattan oldingiz? juda g'alati bo'lib tuyilyapti...
Buni yana shunday tushuntirsa boladi, Alloh yagona bolgani uchun, hamma qonunlar unga boysunadi, yani submissionda, yani Islamda. Bir bolaning tugilishi ham shu qonunlar ostida boradi, bolaning embryoda paydo bolishi rivojlanishi, tugilishi, hammasirodasiga boysungi Allahning qoygan qonunlari, uning an qonunlar ichida boladi. Shuning uchun hamma musulmon tugiladi, boshqa hayot yollari keyin kelib chiqadi uning hayotida, christyanlik, yahudiylik, demokrat, respublikan degan yollar hammasi keyin keladi, shu qatorda Islom yoli ham. Hamma islomda tugiladi, lekin har hil yollarda yuradi.

hh

infolife
11-08-2005, 03:39 PM
YAA, some1 at last! That's true, then Pharaoh killed all 70 magicians cos they beleived that Musa as was indeed messanger and got in paradise. And what are the 2 n 3 rd things happened as sighns of Allah swt in Pharaon's time??

the sticks the magicians throw never turned into snakes, people saw them as snakes, but the stick in Musa(a.s) hand became a real snake and ate every single stick, so all of the magicians accepted that he was a messenger from Allah. And if you follow the ayahs in Qur'an, pharaoh threaned to cut their hands and legs in crosses, but they were firm on their believes.

hh

Hamid
11-08-2005, 03:45 PM
YAA, some1 at last! That's true, then Pharaoh killed all 70 magicians cos they beleived that Musa as was indeed messanger and got in paradise. And what are the 2 n 3 rd things happened as sighns of Allah swt in Pharaon's time??
I will try to asnwer these as well, but have to search in my mind a lot, flowing of blood in river, and i htink the attack of frogs, and every single time people were coming to Musa(a.s) and saying Ey Musa, please make dua to your God, so these things comes to end.
P.S. not sure at the moment

hh

infolife
11-08-2005, 03:50 PM
nah, forgs were 7th, water turning into blood was the 8th. I missed the first 3, cos the talk was too fast:? anyone knows the first three:) would be helpful
I will try to asnwer these as well, but have to search in my mind a lot, flowing of blood in river, and i htink the attack of frogs, and every single time people were coming to Musa(a.s) and saying Ey Musa, please make dua to your God, so these things comes to end.
P.S. not sure at the moment

hh

Gareeb
11-08-2005, 03:51 PM
nah, forgs were 7th, water turning into blood was the 8th. I missed the first 3, cos the talk was too fast:? anyone knows the first three:) would be helpful
Bit yoki burga ham boriydi shekilli.:)

Hamid
11-08-2005, 03:54 PM
nah, forgs were 7th, water turning into blood was the 8th. I missed the first 3, cos the talk was too fast:? anyone knows the first three:) would be helpful
first one of them is Musa (a.s)'s hand, which was white and bright.

hh

infolife
11-08-2005, 03:59 PM
yo'k u hamma narsani yeb qo'yuvchi kuyalar ekan. Kiyim kechaklarniyu uydagi bor narsaga tushib ketgan ekan:) bit-burga nimasi
u paytda bo'ganmi o'zi:rolleyes: :)
Bit yoki burga ham boriydi shekilli.:)

erkak#1
11-08-2005, 04:42 PM
Shu threadni ko'rib bitta savol tug'ildi,
Nega asosan xristian davlatlarida, davlatning asosiy qismi(hammasi emas), barcha musulmonlarni terrorist yoki qotil deb biladi?
Dinim Islom disa, sizga nisbatan boshqacha muomalada bo'lishadi?

infolife
11-09-2005, 12:32 PM
Haliyam bilmismi;) cos they think islam spread in the world through war:x (it has spread through education) they think Jihad allows to kill people and force them to be muslims. People have been brainwashed about Islam in the West. Since the collapse of the SU, west's main concern has become Islam. Have u heard of the term 'Islamic terroris' under Communism. NO,cos they faught against Communism and now Islam. U know Muhammad saw said 'There is no race,tribe among muslims. All muslims next of kin to each other' Western leaders against the spread of Islamic countries cos if west challenges islamic country the other countries might stand together according to Islam.
Therefore, people are brainwashed in the west to think of muslims as warriors, it helps the goverment to go and do crap stuff in Islamic countires(like terrorists in Iraq and war)

Shu threadni ko'rib bitta savol tug'ildi,
Nega asosan xristian davlatlarida, davlatning asosiy qismi(hammasi emas), barcha musulmonlarni terrorist yoki qotil deb biladi?
Dinim Islom disa, sizga nisbatan boshqacha muomalada bo'lishadi?

Samimiy
11-09-2005, 01:04 PM
yo'k u hamma narsani yeb qo'yuvchi kuyalar ekan. Kiyim kechaklarniyu uydagi bor narsaga tushib ketgan ekan:) bit-burga nimasi
u paytda bo'ganmi o'zi:rolleyes: :)

Shu Muso paygambarning hikoyasi haqida History channelda qiziq bir programma kurgan edim. Qisqacha qilib aytganda uning mualliflariga kura Injildagi Muso paygambar hikoyasi faqatgina qisman tugri. Lekin masalaning asliga qaralsa Muso aslida paygambar emas, fir'avnning hokimiyatiga qarshi (yahudiy) qullar quzgolonini boshlagan fir'avnning isyonkor ugli deb kursatilgan. Usha sizlar aytgan 10 ta balodan hammasining ham izohi keltiriladi. Masalan bunday uylab qaralsa ulardan 9 tasi tabiat hodisalari, yani Xudoning aralashuvisiz ham sodir bulgan bulishi mumkin...
Men uzim bu filmga ishonmaymanu, lekin juda qiziq ishlanganini etirof qilishim kerak. Yani ular har bir gapini dalillar bilan isbotlashga harakat qilgan. Hohlovchilar bulsa bu haqda batafsilroq yozishim mumkin.

Vector
11-09-2005, 02:16 PM
Shu Muso paygambarning hikoyasi haqida History channelda qiziq bir programma kurgan edim. Qisqacha qilib aytganda uning mualliflariga kura Injildagi Muso paygambar hikoyasi faqatgina qisman tugri. Lekin masalaning asliga qaralsa Muso aslida paygambar emas, fir'avnning hokimiyatiga qarshi (yahudiy) qullar quzgolonini boshlagan fir'avnning isyonkor ugli deb kursatilgan. Usha sizlar aytgan 10 ta balodan hammasining ham izohi keltiriladi. Masalan bunday uylab qaralsa ulardan 9 tasi tabiat hodisalari, yani Xudoning aralashuvisiz ham sodir bulgan bulishi mumkin...
Men uzim bu filmga ishonmaymanu, lekin juda qiziq ishlanganini etirof qilishim kerak. Yani ular har bir gapini dalillar bilan isbotlashga harakat qilgan. Hohlovchilar bulsa bu haqda batafsilroq yozishim mumkin.

Manam qisman kordim u programmani, ja chalkash qilib tashashgan, har hil conspiracy'lani keltirib...

infolife
11-10-2005, 10:35 AM
qizi faktla aytishibdiyu,men hecham ishonmayman ulaga
Hudoni aralshuvisis sodir bulmaydi i tuhtamaydi ham.
Yana bir narsa,
Holib-Inb-Al-Wolidga nima uchun 'The sword of Allah' laqabini berishgan?Shu Muso paygambarning hikoyasi haqida History channelda qiziq bir programma kurgan edim. Qisqacha qilib aytganda uning mualliflariga kura Injildagi Muso paygambar hikoyasi faqatgina qisman tugri. Lekin masalaning asliga qaralsa Muso aslida paygambar emas, fir'avnning hokimiyatiga qarshi (yahudiy) qullar quzgolonini boshlagan fir'avnning isyonkor ugli deb kursatilgan. Usha sizlar aytgan 10 ta balodan hammasining ham izohi keltiriladi. Masalan bunday uylab qaralsa ulardan 9 tasi tabiat hodisalari, yani Xudoning aralashuvisiz ham sodir bulgan bulishi mumkin...
Men uzim bu filmga ishonmaymanu, lekin juda qiziq ishlanganini etirof qilishim kerak. Yani ular har bir gapini dalillar bilan isbotlashga harakat qilgan. Hohlovchilar bulsa bu haqda batafsilroq yozishim mumkin.

Gareeb
11-10-2005, 10:44 AM
qizi faktla aytishibdiyu,men hecham ishonmayman ulaga
Hudoni aralshuvisis sodir bulmaydi i tuhtamaydi ham.
Yana bir narsa,
Holib-Inb-Al-Wolidga nima uchun 'The sword of Allah' laqabini berishgan?
Chunki Xolid ibn al-Waliyd joihiliyatda ham Islomni qabul qilgandan keyin ham biror marta maglub bo'lmagan.Umar ibn Xattob xalifa bo'lgandan keyin eng birinchi qilgan ishi Oliy Qo'mondon ya'ni Xolid ibn Waliydni bo'shatib o'rniga Sa'd ibn Abiy Waqqosni tayinlash bo'lgan.Bundan hamma hayratga tushib so'raganda Umar roziyallohu anhu: Xolid biror marta ham maglub bo'lmagani ba'zi iymoni sustlarni fitnaga sola boshladi, nusrat Xoliddan emas balki Allohdan ekanini tushuntirib, fitnadan yiroq qilish uchun shunday yo'l tutdim-deb jawob bergan ekanlar. Darhaqaiat Xolid ibn Waliyd Allohning kofirlar ustidan yalangochlangan qilichi bo'lgan.
U kishini hayotlari haqida ko'proq bilmoqchi bo'lganlarga Anwar Awlakining Umar roziayllohu anhu haqidagi darslarini tinglashni tawsiya qilaman:)

Alesser
11-10-2005, 11:08 AM
Shu Muso paygambarning hikoyasi haqida History channelda qiziq bir programma kurgan edim. Qisqacha qilib aytganda uning mualliflariga kura Injildagi Muso paygambar hikoyasi faqatgina qisman tugri. Lekin masalaning asliga qaralsa Muso aslida paygambar emas, fir'avnning hokimiyatiga qarshi (yahudiy) qullar quzgolonini boshlagan fir'avnning isyonkor ugli deb kursatilgan. Usha sizlar aytgan 10 ta balodan hammasining ham izohi keltiriladi. Masalan bunday uylab qaralsa ulardan 9 tasi tabiat hodisalari, yani Xudoning aralashuvisiz ham sodir bulgan bulishi mumkin...
Men uzim bu filmga ishonmaymanu, lekin juda qiziq ishlanganini etirof qilishim kerak. Yani ular har bir gapini dalillar bilan isbotlashga harakat qilgan. Hohlovchilar bulsa bu haqda batafsilroq yozishim mumkin.

Allohning amrisiz bu dunyoda hech narsa bulmaydi, yani har bir bulayotgan voqea yoki hodisa albatta Allohning aralashuvi bilan buladi. Ul zot hamma narsadan ogohdir va bilguvchidir.
Muso (pbuh)ga vahiy kelganda, ul kishi ikki narsadan chuchigan. Biri oilasining rizqi (yani agar u kishi ketsa ular qanday kun kechiradi deb), ikkinchisi Firavn. Shunda Allohdan vahiy keladi, shu bir tog oldiga borib hech qanday giyoh usmaydigan joyda bir harsang toshni ostiga borib qara deb. Shunda Muso (pbuh) borib usha joyda harsangni jildirsa ostida bir kichkina chumoli bir yashil bir donagina giyohni "Alhamdulillah" deb yeyayotganini kuradi, shunda yana Robbisidan vahiy keladi "Ey Musa Robbingiz bir kichkina chumolini rizqini unitib quymagan, uzining suyuklik bulmish paygambar dustining oilasini rizqini unitib quyadimi?!" deb. Qur'onda ham Alloh takidelagandek yerdagi atomchalik yoki undanda kichik bulgan har bir zarra Allohning nazaridan chetta qolmaydi. Bu olimlar yaqindagina atomni eng kichik zarra deb kelishar edi, lekin "sience" asta rivojlangandan sung uni yorib kurishib uni ichida uzi bir qancha atomdan ham bir necha darajada kichik bulgan narsalar borligini bilishdi. Bu esa allaqachon Quro'nda yoritilgan hodisa. Tarix ham kashfiyotlar ham tez-tez uzgaradi va hamisha tavakkal isbotlarga yodoshadi.
Firavnni esa hammamiz juda ham kup eshitganmiz Alloh uzi jazolagan, va qolganlarga ibrat bulsin deb uligini sungi kunga qadar saqlab quygan.

Peace,

infolife
11-11-2005, 01:39 PM
hey, did u know if Abu-Talib accepted Islam? from the film i watched he didn't.:shock:

infolife
11-11-2005, 03:51 PM
hey-hey odamla kim qo'lda ovqat yeyishni yahshi kuradi:)
yahshi kilasla ekan, qo'lda ovqat yeyish Muhammad saw sunnatlaridan biri ekan va yeb bo'lgandan (3 barmoq b/n yeyish kere ekan)keyin birinchi o'rta barmoq keyin ko'rsatkish i keyin bosh barmoqni yalab quyish kerek ekan:P Yaqinda meditsina tomonidan isbolanibdi,qo'lda yeyish hazm jarayonini tezlatarkan i foydali ekan,he zura:)

Samimiy
11-11-2005, 03:56 PM
hey, did u know if Abu-Talib accepted Islam? from the film i watched he didn't.:shock:

There is no consensus on this issue, but the majority of scholars believe that Abu-Talib did not, indeed, embrace Islam. Notice, for example, that when his name is mentioned, the books do not add radiallahu anhu after it. Since he was extremely close to the Prophet (pbuh), many scholars show his example of only Allah leading people to the straight path.

It has been reported that when khalifa Abu Bakr's (r.a) father became Muslim Abu Bakr cried. And when asked about why he cried, he said roughly the following: "The prophet's uncle Abu Talib died a nonbeliever, even though he was close to the prophet. I would have preferred to see Abu Talib die as a Muslim than my own father".

Samimiy
11-11-2005, 04:00 PM
hey-hey odamla kim qo'lda ovqat yeyishni yahshi kuradi:)
yahshi kilasla ekan, qo'lda ovqat yeyish Muhammad saw sunnatlaridan biri ekan va yeb bo'lgandan (3 barmoq b/n yeyish kere ekan)keyin birinchi o'rta barmoq keyin ko'rsatkish i keyin bosh barmoqni yalab quyish kerek ekan:P Yaqinda meditsina tomonidan isbolanibdi,qo'lda yeyish hazm jarayonini tezlatarkan i foydali ekan,he zura:)

Men faqat bazi ovqatlarni qulda yeyman. Bazi ovqatlarni esa sunnat bulishiga qaramay qulda yeyolmasdim :(
Uzbekcha oshni qulda yeyishga chidasa buladi. Lekin tugrisini aytsam bazi arab birodarlarning qulda yeyishini kurib odam faqat qoshiq vilkada yegisi keladi. :shock: Kurganlar bima demoqchiligimni tushungandir.

Shokirbek
11-11-2005, 04:01 PM
hey-hey odamla kim qo'lda ovqat yeyishni yahshi kuradi:)
yahshi kilasla ekan, qo'lda ovqat yeyish Muhammad saw sunnatlaridan biri ekan va yeb bo'lgandan (3 barmoq b/n yeyish kere ekan)keyin birinchi o'rta barmoq keyin ko'rsatkish i keyin bosh barmoqni yalab quyish kerek ekan:P Yaqinda meditsina tomonidan isbolanibdi,qo'lda yeyish hazm jarayonini tezlatarkan i foydali ekan,he zura:)

Islom buyurgan barcha ishlarning zo'rligida shubha yo'q, xoh u ilm-fan tomonidan tasdiqlansin, xoh yo'q.

Ba'zilar g'arbliklar oldida qo'lda ovqat yeyishdan uyalishgan, o'shalarga ancha qo'l kelipti buning kashf etilishi.

infolife
11-11-2005, 04:03 PM
yeah, The book I read says he was very close to Muhammed saw and supported and protected him all his life, Muhammed begged him to accept but he didn't:( Alloh rahmatiga olgan bo'lsin
Hey, what was prophets adopted son's name? forgot just now:rolleyes:

anaka,arabla ovkatni kandey yeydi:rolleyes: men kurmaganman i chunmadim nima demokchiligizi?:)

There is no consensus on this issue, but the majority of scholars believe that Abu-Talib did not, indeed, embrace Islam. Notice, for example, that when his name is mentioned, the books do not add radiallahu anhu after it. Since he was extremely close to the Prophet (pbuh), many scholars show his example of only Allah leading people to the straight path.

It has been reported that when khalifa Abu Bakr's (r.a) father became Muslim Abu Bakr cried. And when asked about why he cried, he said roughly the following: "The prophet's uncle Abu Bakr died a nonbeliever, even though he was close to the prophet. I would have preferred to see Abu Bakr die as a Muslim than my own father".

Shokirbek
11-11-2005, 04:05 PM
Lekin tugrisini aytsam bazi arab birodarlarning qulda yeyishini kurib odam faqat qoshiq vilkada yegisi keladi. :shock: Kurganlar bima demoqchiligimni tushungandir.

Juda to'g'ri gap, ko'pini ko'rganmiz, biroq ilmlilari unchalik emas, lekin ushbu sunnatni ijro etishda hech bir musulmonlar o'zimizning o'zbeklarga yeta olmasa kerak, o'zbeklar qo'l bilan juda akkuratno yeyishadi.

Samimiy
11-11-2005, 04:09 PM
Islom buyurgan barcha ishlarning zo'rligida shubha yo'q, xoh u ilm-fan tomonidan tasdiqlansin, xoh yo'q.

Ba'zilar g'arbliklar oldida qo'lda ovqat yeyishdan uyalishgan, o'shalarga ancha qo'l kelipti buning kashf etilishi.

Qiziq bir fakt (Chto? Gde? Kogda? mi, Breyn Ringdami, suralgan edi):

Urta asrlarda xristian olamida monaxlarga vilkadan foydalanish man etilgan ekan. Vilka shaytonga xos buyum hisoblangan ekan. Urta asrlarda monaxlar aholining eng uqimishli tabaqasi hisoblanganini hisobga olsak, Ovruponing oxirgi asrlarda (moddiy tomondan) qanchalik taraqqiy qilganini kuramiz.

Samimiy
11-11-2005, 04:14 PM
1. Hey, what was prophets adopted son's name? forgot just now:rolleyes:

anaka,arabla ovkatni kandey yeydi:rolleyes: men kurmaganman i chunmadim nima demokchiligizi?:)

1. Zayd b. Harisa. Adashmasam Qur'onda ismi zikr etilgan bittagina sahoba ham shu. Aslida paygambarimizga (sav) Xadicha onamiz tomonidan sovga qilingan qul bulgan, keyinchalik paygambarimiz ozod qilib, keyin ugil qilib olganlar. Keyinchalik bir jangda Islom qushiniga qumondonlik ham qilgan.

2. Mayli, uning unchalik ahamiyati yuq. Shokirbek aytganiday, "akkuratniy" yeyishmaydi deb quya qolaylik. Ham u yeyish hazmni tezlashtirishi qiyin, shunday emasmi? :)

Shokirbek
11-11-2005, 04:36 PM
2. Mayli, uning unchalik ahamiyati yuq. Shokirbek aytganiday, "akkuratniy" yeyishmaydi deb quya qolaylik. Ham u yeyish hazmni tezlashtirishi qiyin, shunday emasmi? :)

Hehe, albatta shunday :D . Olloh o'zi insof bersin ularga, besh panjani o'g'izga solishmasin.

infolife
11-11-2005, 04:43 PM
Saudiya arabiyaliklani pul aynitibdi deb ko'p eshitib kolaman:? rosa puldor bo'lib ko'plari manmanmish,o'zi hech shu arabla yuk kursimda hech gaplashmaganman,nima ula 5 qo'lini og'ziga soladimi?:rolleyes: 3qo'l deyilgan ekan sunnatda

Hehe, albatta shunday :D . Olloh o'zi insof bersin ularga, besh panjani o'g'izga solishmasin.

erkak#1
11-11-2005, 04:45 PM
Hehe, albatta shunday :D . Olloh o'zi insof bersin ularga, besh panjani o'g'izga solishmasin.
O'zbeklaram besh panjani og'ziga solib Palovni yeyishadiku... :rolleyes:

Fil yilida, ya'ni payg'ambarimiz Muhammad (s.a.w.) tavallud topgan yillarida, Ka'ba Tulloh tomonga hujum qilgan odamni ismi nima edi?

Shokirbek
11-11-2005, 04:47 PM
O'zbeklaram besh panjani og'ziga solib Palovni yeyishadiku... :rolleyes:

Fil yilida, ya'ni payg'ambarimiz Muhammad (s.a.w.) tavallud topgan yillarida, Ka'ba Tulloh tomonga hujum qilgan odamni ismi nima edi?

Abraha (Abrahatul Ashyam).

Samimiy
11-11-2005, 05:21 PM
Abraha (Abrahatul Ashyam).

Shu Abrahaning Makkaga hujum qilishining sababini bilganlar bormi? Yaxshi eslaganlar bulsa yozinglar, chunki tarixi ancha qiziq. Yarim sahifa- bir sahifa yozishga arziydi menimcha. Tafsilotlari mening esimda yuq, shuning uchun eslaganlar yozsa yaxshi. Ishonasizlarmi-yuqmi, men buni bitta tarixni rasmlar orqali tushuntirgan kitobda uqigan edim :)

infolife
11-11-2005, 05:26 PM
men kinoda kurdim nu film Islom tarihi turisda oma shu boshini yahshi chunmadimda:( Abrahanning hujumini qisqa qilib aytib o'tib ketipti,yonimdegi qiz aytib qoldi a men Abraham degan ismi umuman eshitmappan:( ja qiziq savol oma:)

kutamiz javobini kim bilsa

Shu Abrahaning Makkaga hujum qilishining sababini bilganlar bormi? Yaxshi eslaganlar bulsa yozinglar, chunki tarixi ancha qiziq. Yarim sahifa- bir sahifa yozishga arziydi menimcha. Tafsilotlari mening esimda yuq, shuning uchun eslaganlar yozsa yaxshi. Ishonasizlarmi-yuqmi, men buni bitta tarixni rasmlar orqali tushuntirgan kitobda uqigan edim :)

Alesser
11-11-2005, 09:57 PM
yeah, The book I read says he was very close to Muhammed saw and supported and protected him all his life, Muhammed begged him to accept but he didn't:( Alloh rahmatiga olgan bo'lsin
Hey, what was prophets adopted son's name? forgot just now:rolleyes:

anaka,arabla ovkatni kandey yeydi:rolleyes: men kurmaganman i chunmadim nima demokchiligizi?:)

When Prophet's (pbuh) grandfather died his uncle Abu Talib took care after him. He loved his nephew so much and gave protection agains the pagan arab. (I also wanted to share a little story about Abu Talib and Muhammad (pbuh). When our beloved Prophet (pbuh) was a young boy His uncle use take him with "karavan" to different places. One time, I believe he was taking him to Syria (I'm not sure if it was exactly Syria). On the way to Syria there was a Christian Churche and the preachers of this Chruche never use to come out. There was a Christian Bishop by the name of Buhayra. One day he looks outside and sees the karavan. Suddenly, he sees something very interesting. While he watches the karavan from long distance he sees a person with a very shiny face under the shade of cloud. Buhayra gets astonished when he sees that this cloud was following the person with shiny face wherever he goes. Once karavan gets closer they stop for rest, and a person with shiny face sits under the tree, and Buhayra sees that this tree was bending his branches over him to give more shade for this person. He gets very interested and invites everybody in karavan to join a feast. He gives a big feast for them, and watches every single person, but he can not find the passenger whom he saw early. He doesn't recognize anybody, then he starts asking if anyone is missing between them who couldn't make it to feast. They tell him that there is a small boy Muhammad (pbuh) who they left in karavan. Then they feel bad about it and sends a person to bring him over. As soon as Muhammad (pbuh) enters Buhayra knows him. After, Muhammad (pbuh) finishes his meal, Buhayra gets closer to him and starts asking question. He asks him to show him his back shoulder and after he sees the seal of the Prophethood he makes sure that this boy is a long waited one (a "Comforter", "Ahmad"-the guided one whom Isa (pbuh) has mentioned). He calls Abu Talib and asks him who is this boy, Abu Talib tells him that Muhammad (pbuh) is his son. Buhayra says it is impossible, and then Abu Talib tells him Muhammad (pbuh) is his nephew. Buhayra tells Abu Talib send him back to Mecca, because if any Jew finds out what I know about him they may try to harm him. As we see, Abu Talib knew that his nephew Muhammad (pbuh) is very special. Abu Talib also use to have many sons, and even Abu Talib use to be a leader of his tribe he was not rich. Muhammad's (pbuh) family was very generous, and they use to give away what they have to the poor. When Abu Talib brings a food all his sons use to jump to the food and start to eat. Muhammad (pbuh) was very shy and he waited until they finish. If there is anything left he ate, and if not he use to starve. One day Abu Talib sees him, and tells his sons Muhammad (pbuh) will eat first and then they will eat after him. He loved his nephew very much. When he was about to leave this world, Muhammad (pbuh) asked him to repeat the kalima shahada, but Abu Talib wispered something and everybody said he said shahada. Muhammad (pbuh) was very sad and he said his uncle was not able to say shahada. Abu Talib was a great leader and he never believed pagans. He never was afraid from anybody, and he was a proud man.

I have heard and read that our Prophet (pbuh) adopted two sons. Zayd (r.a) and Ibrahim (r.a), and Zayd (r.a) becomes a martyr during the expedition against pagans ( he was very young at that time, I believe if I remember right 20 years old). This is a great expedition that Khalid Idn Walid (r.a) rescues many muslims and gets the name of "the sword of Allah. After hearing that his adopted son Zayd's (r.a) death Muhammad hugs the child daughter of Zayd and cries because he use to love his son very much.

Thanks everybody.....

Peace,

Shokirbek
11-12-2005, 01:16 AM
men kinoda kurdim nu film Islom tarihi turisda oma shu boshini yahshi chunmadimda:( Abrahanning hujumini qisqa qilib aytib o'tib ketipti,yonimdegi qiz aytib qoldi a men Abraham degan ismi umuman eshitmappan:( ja qiziq savol oma:)

kutamiz javobini kim bilsa

Yuqorida laqabida biroz xato qilibman, u Abraha al-Ashyam emas, Abraha al Ashram ("r"ga tili kelmaydigan go'dak aytgandek bo'libdi :D ).

Uning Makkaga yurishini ko'p tarixshilar zikr etishgan, arabcha manbalar juda ko'p.

Inglizchasidan:

The Year of the Elephant

The above-mentioned episode happened in his youth. Now we come to the most important event of his life which took place just eight years before his death. By then, he was the patriarch of the tribe.



The Ethiopian governor of Yemen, Abraha al-Ashram, envied the reverence in which the Ka'bah was held by the Arabs. Being a staunch Christian, he built a big cathedral in Sanaa (the capital of Yemen) and ordered the Arabs to go there for pilgrimage instead. The order was ignored. Not only that; someone entered the cathedral and made it unclean. (Ya'ni, Abraha qurgan qasrga borib ichiga tahorat ushatib chiqqan).

The wrath of Abraha knew no bounds. In his fury, he decided to avenge it by demolishing and desecrating the Ka'bah itself. He advanced with a large army towards Mecca.



There were many elephants in his army; he himself rode a huge elephant. It was an animal which the Arabs had not seen before, thus the year came to be known as 'Amul-Fil (the year of the elephant), and it started an era for reckoning the years in Arabia. This remained in use until the days of 'Umar ibn al *Khattab when, on the advice of Hazrat 'Ali ibn Abi Talib, he replaced it with the era of Hijra.



When news of the advance of Abraha's army came, the Arabian tribes of Quraish, Kinanah, Khuza'ah and Hudhayl joined together to defend the Ka'bah. Abraha sent a small contingent towards Mecca to capture the camels and young people. The contingent captured many animals, including two hundred of 'Abdul-Muttalib's.



Meanwhile, a man from the tribe of Himyar was sent by Abraha to Quraish to advise them that Abraha had not come to fight them: his only aim was to demolish the Ka'bah. But if the Quraish resisted, they would be crushed. Then followed a frightening description of his huge army, which, admittedly, was much larger and better equipped than all the tribes put together.



'Abdul-Muttalib replied to this ultimatum in these words: "By Allah, we do not want to fight him. So far as this House (the Ka'bah) is concerned, it is the House of Allah; if Allah wants to save His House, He will save it, and if He leaves it unprotected, no one can save it."



Then 'Abdul-Muttalib, with 'Amr ibn Lu'aba and some other prominent leaders, went to see Abraha. Abraha was informed before hand of the prestige and position of 'Abdul-Muttalib. Also the personality of 'Abdul-Muttalib was very impressive and awe*inspiring. When he entered Abraha's tent, the latter rose from his throne, warmly welcomed him, and seated him beside him on the carpet. During the conversation, 'Abdul-Muttalib requested him to release his camels. Abraha was astonished. He said: "When my eyes fell upon you, I was so impressed by you that had you requested me to withdraw my army and go back to Yemen, I would have granted that request. But now, I have no respect for you. Why? Here I have come to demolish the House which is the religious center of yours and of your forefathers and the foundation of your prestige and respect in Arabia, and you say nothing to save it; instead, you ask me to return your few camels back to you?!"



'Abdul-Muttalib said: "I am the owner of the camels, (therefore, I tried to save them), and this House has its own Owner Who will surely protect it." Abraha was stunned by this reply. He ordered the camels to be released, and the deputation of Quraish returned.



On the second day, Abraha issued orders to his army to enter Mecca. 'Abdul-Muttalib told the Meccans to leave the city and to seek refuge in the surrounding hills. But he, together with some leading members of Quraish, remained within the precincts of the Ka'bah. Abraha sent someone to warn them to vacate the building. When the messenger came, he asked the people who their leader was. All fingers pointed towards 'Abdul-Muttalib. He was again invited to go to Abraha where he had a talk with him. When he came out, he was heard saying: "The Owner of this House is its Defender, and I am sure He will save it from the attack of the adversaries and will not dishonor the servants of His House."



'Abdul-Muttalib then took hold of the door of the Ka'bah and, crying to Allah, prayed in the following words (of poetry):



(O Allah! Surely a man defends his own home, therefore, Thou shouldst protect Thy Own House. Their cross and their wrath can never overcome Thy wrath. O Allah, help Thy Own people against the fellows of the cross and its worshippers).



Then he, too, went to the summit of the hill, Abu Qubays. Abraha advanced with his army. Seeing the walls of the Ka'bah, he ordered its demolition. No sooner had the army reached near the Ka'bah than an army of Allah appeared from the western side. A dark cloud of small birds (known in Arabic as Ababil) overshadowed the entire army of Abraha. Each bird had three pebbles: two in its claws and one in its beak. A rain of the pebbles poured down from the birds, and in a few minutes, the whole army was destroyed. Abraha himself was seriously wounded; he fled towards Yemen but died on the way.



It is to this important event that Allah refers in Chapter 105:



Have you not seen how your Lord dealt with the companions of the Elephant? Did He not make their treacherous plan go astray? And He sent against them birds in flocks, striking them with stones of baked clay, so He rendered them like straw eaten up. (Qu'ran, 105)



Some historians have tried to minimize the impact of the Divine intervention by suggesting that the army perished because of an epidemic of smallpox. But such an explanation creates more puzzles than it solves. How was it that the whole army was seized by that epidemic just when it was advancing on the Ka'bah? How was it that not a single soldier survived that epidemic? Why was it that no Meccan caught that contagious epidemic? Moreover, if there was no epidemic in Mecca before or after that sudden burst of the plague, where did the epidemic come from?

Samimiy
11-12-2005, 12:42 PM
[quote=Shokirbek]
The Ethiopian governor of Yemen, Abraha al-Ashram, envied the reverence in which the Ka'bah was held by the Arabs. Being a staunch Christian, he built a big cathedral in Sanaa (the capital of Yemen) and ordered the Arabs to go there for pilgrimage instead. The order was ignored. Not only that; someone entered the cathedral and made it unclean. (Ya'ni, Abraha qurgan qasrga borib ichiga tahorat ushatib chiqqan).

The wrath of Abraha knew no bounds. In his fury, he decided to avenge it by demolishing and desecrating the Ka'bah itself. He advanced with a large army towards Mecca.

Men shu qismini nazarda tutgan ekan. Abraha ushanda ham turizmning ahamiyatini tushungan ekan. Lekin johiliya arablarining etiqodi nasroniy bulmagani uchun albatta cherkovga bormagan :) Bormaslik uyoqda tursin, Abrahani haqoratlab kelishgan :) Chunki ziyoratchilar Kabani quyib u cherkovga qatnashga borganda Hijoz arablarining daromadi ancha pasayardi :)

infolife
11-12-2005, 03:57 PM
I know The Euthopian leader saved sahabas. You know when Muhammed saw sent his sahabas to Euthopia when it was dangerous to stay in Mecca that euthopian leaders asks sahabas several question,doesn't beleive in them first. One of the sahabas,can't remember the name says 'Muhammad saw sent us to you cos you beleive in one God we do' then he relates words from Quran then that euthopian leader says"The difference between us and you not bigger than this line" making a line with his stick.he gives them home and saves them from dangeour. Is he the same euthopian leader who attacked Mecca or different one?:rolleyes:
If different what is his name?

[quote=Shokirbek]
The Ethiopian governor of Yemen, Abraha al-Ashram, envied the reverence in which the Ka'bah was held by the Arabs. Being a staunch Christian, he built a big cathedral in Sanaa (the capital of Yemen) and ordered the Arabs to go there for pilgrimage instead. The order was ignored. Not only that; someone entered the cathedral and made it unclean. (Ya'ni, Abraha qurgan qasrga borib ichiga tahorat ushatib chiqqan).

The wrath of Abraha knew no bounds. In his fury, he decided to avenge it by demolishing and desecrating the Ka'bah itself. He advanced with a large army towards Mecca.

Men shu qismini nazarda tutgan ekan. Abraha ushanda ham turizmning ahamiyatini tushungan ekan. Lekin johiliya arablarining etiqodi nasroniy bulmagani uchun albatta cherkovga bormagan :) Bormaslik uyoqda tursin, Abrahani haqoratlab kelishgan :) Chunki ziyoratchilar Kabani quyib u cherkovga qatnashga borganda Hijoz arablarining daromadi ancha pasayardi :)

eagle
11-12-2005, 04:09 PM
YAA, some1 at last! That's true, then Pharaoh killed all 70 magicians cos they beleived that Musa as was indeed messanger and got in paradise. And what are the 2 n 3 rd things happened as sighns of Allah swt in Pharaon's time??

Qushimcha:

Segrgarlar sehr kursatishgan edi, Muso AS esa mu'jiza kursatgan edi. Ya'ni sehrda faqat shakl uzgaradi va lekin mohiyat uzgarmaydi, mu'jizada esa shakl ham mohiyat ham uzgaradi! (Abduvali Qoridan eshitgan edim chamamda).

Samimiy
11-12-2005, 04:15 PM
[quote=infolife] Is he the same euthopian leader who attacked Mecca or different one?:rolleyes:
If different what is his name?

Abraha, the guy who attacked Mecca, was not an Ethiopean leader, but governor of Yemen. Ethiopia is in eastern Africa, Yemen is in the southern part of the Arabian peninsula, which is in Asia. See Shokirbek's post on this.

infolife
11-12-2005, 04:17 PM
Qisqa qip aytganda Musa as mo'jizasi- U yaratgan ilonni ruhi bo'lgan ekan. Yani sehrgarlarni ilonlari ilon bup ko'ringan aslida esa tayoq, but Allah has given soul to Musa as's snake and the secret of soul belongs to Allah swt.
That's why Islam doesn't agree with evolution in this case,cos they say man is developed from a single cell but Islam says without a soul given by Allah swt (and the secret belongs to HIm only) no man could be born as a man.Shunchunam hamma muslim bup tug'ilarkan, yagona Alloh swt tomonida ruh tanaga joylashtirilgani uchun.

Qushimcha:

Segrgarlar sehr kursatishgan edi, Muso AS esa mu'jiza kursatgan edi. Ya'ni sehrda faqat shakl uzgaradi va lekin mohiyat uzgarmaydi, mu'jizada esa shakl ham mohiyat ham uzgaradi! (Abduvali Qoridan eshitgan edim chamamda).

infolife
11-14-2005, 03:30 AM
did u know invocations when put on new clothes:

tublee wa yukhliful-laahu ta'aalaa-May Allah replace it when it's worn out.
Iblas jadeedan wa ish hamidaan wa must shaheedan -Put on new clothes live a praise worthy life and die as a martyr.kim yana bilsa post pliz:)

al-quds muslim
11-14-2005, 04:00 AM
salamu alaikum

etupians were capturing yaman in te ruling stage of abraha, and that is scheduled in te history,

thank u all very much

Jennifer
11-20-2005, 07:10 PM
Honum, every human being is born Muslim by default. Their enviroment, surrounding and parents, as one of primary factors, influence their lives and thus promote their further conversion into christianity, judaism and etc -isms. check out a hadeeth of The Prophet saw.

I'm confused. Wasn't the Muslim religion started after Judaism? I thought that Abraham started Judaism and then later Islam and Christianity began.

ÄÆÈÃÈÒ
11-20-2005, 08:33 PM
I'm confused. Wasn't the Muslim religion started after Judaism? I thought that Abraham started Judaism and then later Islam and Christianity began.

Dear Jennifer, according to Islamic law, we muslims believe that all prohpets called for monotheism and all of them were muslims. You ask why muslims? The word "muslim" comes from the root word "salam" or "shlam" in ancient aramaic, language of many prophets, the word "Islam" also derives from the same root. The root word contains a number of meanings, some of which are:

Peace, Submission, Surrendering or Delivering oneself (to God's will).



The word "muslim" is not a new word. This is only Arabic rendering. This word also exists in Aramaic and Hebrew as well, Due to its meaning " One who submits" , we find that this action has always been exemplified and carried out in every prophets character, acts and deeds.

Here's the example of Jesus p.b.u.h. demonstrated total submission (him being a muslim) to God during his last moments:

" And Jesus cried out with a loud voice saying, "my Father, in your hands I commend my soul, after he said this, it was ended (Luke: 23:46)


P.S. for complete information about this, please go to " Being like the teacher" thread.

Jennifer
11-20-2005, 08:37 PM
Dear Djigit,

Out of curiosity, does the original Abraham play a role in Islam? Is he considered a Muslim prophet? (Sorry for the ignorant questions; my knowledge of Islam is obviously very lax)

ÄÆÈÃÈÒ
11-20-2005, 09:32 PM
Dear Djigit,

Out of curiosity, does the original Abraham play a role in Islam? Is he considered a Muslim prophet? (Sorry for the ignorant questions; my knowledge of Islam is obviously very lax)

Of course, and noy just a role, but a BIG role. Abraham is considered in Islam and by muslims as a prophet who set up a clear rule of monotheism which is called "tawhid" in arabic. There are so many verses in Holy Qur'an about Abraham, where God says Abraham "My friend", it means that God took Abraham so close that called him friend, and we muslims consider it the way God rendered it in Holy Qur'an, we muslims honor all prophet with no exceptions among them, the only difference is that they set up their communities and had their folowers, and we today are the followers of the last prophet Mohammad s.a.w. or call it church. We muslims do believe that all prophets advocated one religion of monotheism and those so called religions are mere wrong interpretations of churches of different prophets but ONE religion calling to ONE God!

Marg'iloniy
11-21-2005, 02:30 AM
Muhammas SAV Makkadan Madinaga hijrat qilib shaharga kirib kelayotganlarida ansoriylar u kishini hammalari uz uylariga joylashtirishni orzulab qoldilar, shunda payg'ambarimiz ansoriylarni har birini hafa qilmaslik uchun, ihtiyorni tuyalariga berdilar va "u topshiriq olgan, u qayerga borib tuhtasa usha yerga masjid va menga uy quramiz",- dedilar. va ushbu oyatni uqidilar:

- Robbi anzilni munzalan mubarokan va anta hayrul munziliyn.

Ma'nosi: Robbim, meni qutlug' muborak, o'ringa tushurginki, sen tushurguchilarning eng yahshisidirsan.

Shundan beri biror joyga safarga borilganda, joy tanlashda ushbu oyatni uqish musulmonlarga sunnat bulib qolgan.

Mubina
11-21-2005, 03:58 AM
1. Zayd b. Harisa. Adashmasam Qur'onda ismi zikr etilgan bittagina sahoba ham shu. Aslida paygambarimizga (sav) Xadicha onamiz tomonidan sovga qilingan qul bulgan, keyinchalik paygambarimiz ozod qilib, keyin ugil qilib olganlar. Keyinchalik bir jangda Islom qushiniga qumondonlik ham qilgan.


Abu Bakr (R.A.) va Omar (R.A.) ismlari zikr etilgan deb bilardim, yoki ular "sahobalar" qatorida ziqr etilishmaganmi?

PALESTINE
11-21-2005, 04:04 AM
SALAMU ALAIKUM

HOW ARE U ALL,

after beginning by the name of allah (besm illah al-rahman al-raheem),

dear brothers and friends,

do u know that, rasoul allah salla allahu aleihi wa-sallam said,
( there still be agroup of my ommah, victorious on islam religion, victorious on there enemies, no one of there there attackers can hurt them, )

sahabat of rasoul allah asked, (where are they ???)

rasoul allah replied (on beitul-maqdis(jerusalem), and the regions beside )

sadaqa rasoul-allah

infolife
11-23-2005, 09:10 AM
Did u know that Zayd(prophet's adopted son) married Barakah,or they called her 'Ya um Ayman' Muhammad used to call him 'Ya Ummi' mother cos she looked after him all the time before and after Aminah(prophet's mother) died? Zayd married Barakah,prophet's mother:shock: never knew this one. Barakah was one of the first to follow Muhammad saw and the most faithful to him. now that's interesting

Question: do u know which sahaba was very well-known to keep secrets under vilolency and therefore Muhammad saw told only him the names of hypocrites so that he could watch them but never told anyone else. During Umar's khalifa time he insisted him to tell him who were jews hypocrites but he never told him. The only way Umar found out about hypocrites was whenever some1 died he always asked if he turned up for the funural. If the answer was no then Umar as knew that person was hypocrite. Do u know that sahaba's name? :rolleyes: :)

1. Zayd b. Harisa. Adashmasam Qur'onda ismi zikr etilgan bittagina sahoba ham shu. Aslida paygambarimizga (sav) Xadicha onamiz tomonidan sovga qilingan qul bulgan, keyinchalik paygambarimiz ozod qilib, keyin ugil qilib olganlar. Keyinchalik bir jangda Islom qushiniga qumondonlik ham qilgan.

2. Mayli, uning unchalik ahamiyati yuq. Shokirbek aytganiday, "akkuratniy" yeyishmaydi deb quya qolaylik. Ham u yeyish hazmni tezlashtirishi qiyin, shunday emasmi? :)

infolife
11-23-2005, 12:05 PM
hehe,none knew.that special sahaba's name was Hudayfa ibn Al-Yaman.

Did you know that 5 of sahabas resembled Muhammad saw so much. They were: Abu-Sufyan ibn al-Harith, Qutham ibn Al-Abbas-both cousins of the prophet, As-Said ibn Ubayd, AlHasan ibn Ali-grandson of the Prophet who resembled him most of all, and Jafar ibn Abi Talib.

And Ja'far beloved companion was known as the 'Father of Poverty', he was the one who left for Madinah early years and impressed negrus with his speech.
Can u post sth interesting like this about companions here:) thank you

Gareeb
11-23-2005, 04:48 PM
Rosuwlulloh (SAW) hech qaysi sahobaga aytmagan "Otam wa onam sizga fido bo'lsin" iborasini bir sahobaga aytganlar, o'sha sohobiy kim?:)

Alesser
11-26-2005, 06:30 PM
Rosuwlulloh (SAW) hech qaysi sahobaga aytmagan "Otam wa onam sizga fido bo'lsin" iborasini bir sahobaga aytganlar, o'sha sohobiy kim?:)

Abu Bakr Siddiq radianlohu anhu shu sularni aytgan. Paygambarimiz Rasululloh (pbuh) muborak ruhi poklari tanalarini tark etgandan sung, Abu Bakr r.a. honalariga kirib Rasulullohning (pbuh) muborak peshonalaridan upib "Otam va onam sizga fido bulsin Rasululloh" deb aytadi. Shu yerini uqiganimda juda ham yuraklarim galati bulib ketgan edi....

Alesser
11-26-2005, 06:34 PM
Abu Bakr Siddiq radianlahu anhu, yer yuzida Odam alayhissalom yaralgandan beri barcha Anbiyolardan keyingi eng al'o insondir. Jannatning har bir davozasi ul kishini ismlarini aytib chaqiradi, inshalloh ohiratda....

Alesser
11-26-2005, 06:51 PM
One day Prophet (pbuh) asked Abu Bakr and Umar radianlohu anhuma to bring some of their wealth for the sake of Allah. Umar r.a. brought some of his wealth, and Prophet (pbuh) asked him, "O Umar what have you left for your family?", Umar r.a. replyed I left 1 of 3rd my wealth for my family. Later Abu Bakr r.a. came and brought his wealth. Prophet (pbuh) asked him, "O, Abu Bakr, what have you left for your family?", Sahaba r.a. responded "O, Prophet of Allah, I left for my family Allah and his Prophet!". Abu Bakr r.a. brough all his wealth for the sake of Allah, thats why he was a Siddiq. In the time of our Prophet (pbuh) sahabas use to like compete with each other with doing good deeds. Umar r.a. use like to compete with Abu Bakr r.a., but after this event Umar r.a. made sure that there is no one amongst the sahabas who could compete with Abu Bakr r.a.
Abu Bakr r.a. he was a first sahaba who accepted Islam. He was a wealthy man, but he spent all his wealth for the sake of Allah, and became very poor. After, he became Halifa, he was so poor that sahabas gathered and decided to give some wealth from Baytul Mal, but he refused to take it.....

Shokirbek
11-26-2005, 08:30 PM
Rosuwlulloh (SAW) hech qaysi sahobaga aytmagan "Otam wa onam sizga fido bo'lsin" iborasini bir sahobaga aytganlar, o'sha sohobiy kim?:)

Hormang Gareeb.


Sa'd ibn Abu Vaqqos raziyallohu anhuga aytganlar.

Iqbol
11-26-2005, 08:48 PM
[quote=infolife]I know The Euthopian leader saved sahabas. You know when Muhammed saw sent his sahabas to Euthopia when it was dangerous to stay in Mecca that euthopian leaders asks sahabas several question,doesn't beleive in them first. One of the sahabas,can't remember the name says 'Muhammad saw sent us to you cos you beleive in one God we do' then he relates words from Quran then that euthopian leader says"The difference between us and you not bigger than this line" making a line with his stick.he gives them home and saves them from dangeour. Is he the same euthopian leader who attacked Mecca or different one?:rolleyes:
If different what is his name?


Habas podshohining ismi Najjoshiy bolgan. U kishi, musulmon muhojirlariga o'z yurtida boshpana bergan. Va, muhojirlarni savolga tutip, paygambarimiz sav ning haiqiqy paygambarligiga ishongan. lekin, atrofining tazyiqi uchun, ochiqcha elon qilmagan. Lekin, musulmon holda vafot qilgan. Vafot qilganlarida, Paygambarimiz sav u kishining janozasini goibona o'qiganlar.

Samimiy
11-26-2005, 09:18 PM
Abu Bakr r.a. he was a first sahaba who accepted Islam. He was a wealthy man, but he spent all his wealth for the sake of Allah, and became very poor. After, he became Halifa, he was so poor that sahabas gathered and decided to give some wealth from Baytul Mal, but he refused to take it.....

Adashmasam birinchi musulmon bulgan sahoba Xadicha onamiz bulganlar (men uchun ikki manoda ham- onamning ismlari ham Xadicha :) )
Shuning uchun Islom dini uchun bir ayol, bir erkak, bir bola va bir qul bilan boshlangan deyilgan (Xadicha, Abu Bakr, Ali va Zayd b. Xarisa - Alloh hammasidan rozi bulsin).

Alesser
11-26-2005, 10:36 PM
Adashmasam birinchi musulmon bulgan sahoba Xadicha onamiz bulganlar (men uchun ikki manoda ham- onamning ismlari ham Xadicha :) )
Shuning uchun Islom dini uchun bir ayol, bir erkak, bir bola va bir qul bilan boshlangan deyilgan (Xadicha, Abu Bakr, Ali va Zayd b. Xarisa - Alloh hammasidan rozi bulsin).


Tuppa tugri, albatta siz haqsiz. men Abu Bakr Siddiq r.a. deb erkak kishi sahobalardan birinchi deb nazarga tutgan edim. Shubhasiz Xadicha radianlohu anha onamiz, birinchi bulib Islomni qabul qilgan, Rasulullohning dustlaridan esa Abu Bakr r.a.

Rahmat,

Alesser
11-26-2005, 11:08 PM
hehe,none knew.that special sahaba's name was Hudayfa ibn Al-Yaman.

Did you know that 5 of sahabas resembled Muhammad saw so much. They were: Abu-Sufyan ibn al-Harith, Qutham ibn Al-Abbas-both cousins of the prophet, As-Said ibn Ubayd, AlHasan ibn Ali-grandson of the Prophet who resembled him most of all, and Jafar ibn Abi Talib.

And Ja'far beloved companion was known as the 'Father of Poverty', he was the one who left for Madinah early years and impressed negrus with his speech.
Can u post sth interesting like this about companions here:) thank you

Thank you so much Infolife, just a little bit addition.,
Huzayfa r.a. was known as "Keeper of Secrets". Prophet (pbuh) entrusted him with the names of the Munafiqin, and had informed him in chronological order all the facts, which Muslims were to face till the last day. He gave him full details about the incedents that were going to effect 300 or more people. Huzayfa r.a. says " other people used to ask the Prophet (pbuh) about good things, while I always asked him about bad events so that I might guard against them. One day he said he had a conversation with the Prophet of Allah:
Huzayfa r.a. "O Prophet of Allah! Shal we revert to evil after the good you brought us?"
Prophet replyed " Yes, The evil is coming." Huzayfa r.a. "Shal we have good again after that evil?" Prophet (pbuh) "Huzayfa, go and read Qur'an, meditiate on its meaning and follow its commandments." But Huzayfa r.a. wanted to know more, and he was very anxious. He kept asking about the evils that will fall on Muslims. He asked again "O Prophet of Allah! Tell me if good will come after the evil?" Prophet (pbuh) responded, yes good will come, but the hearts of the people will not be so clear." Huzayfa r.a. asked again will there be any evil after this good?" Prophet (pbuh) responded there will be such people who will misguid people and take them to Hell." Huzayfa r.a. asked again "what should I do if I witness that time?"
Prophet (pbuh) responded, "If there will be a group under one Amir, then join them, otherwise dissociate yourself from such factions and be secluded in a corner, or take a refuge in the forest un til you die." When Huzayfa r.a. was leaving this world he wept so much, and people asked him "O Huzayfa, are you weeping because you are leaving this world?" Huzayfa responded "No, I am weeping because now I am leaving this world and I do not know if Allah is pleased with me or not." He was a very close friend of Prophet (pbuh) and he loved Allah so much, but still fear of Allah was with him at the time of his death because of his Iman.
Thanks,

P

Alesser
11-26-2005, 11:21 PM
Aisha (Radhiallaho Anha) told one time "My father Abu Bakr r.a. has a collection of 500 hadiths. One night my father couldn't sleep, and he was very much worried about something. I asked him what was bothering him so much, but he didn't repond. Next morning he asked me to bring all the compile of 500 hadiths. After, I brought them over he burnt all of the. Later he said " The collection contained many hadiths that I have heard from other people. I thought if I died and left behind a hadith accepted as authentic by me, but really not so, I will have to answer for the." The Sahaba were very careful and cautios about hadith. Thats why we find very few hadiths narrated by eminent Sahaba.
I have read many of this kind of stories from the book called "Fazail-e-Amaal" ("Tabligi Nisab") published by Madina Masjid. Anybody who likes to read about Sahabas this is a very good book. It has a compile of many hadiths by Buhoriy and Muslim also.

Marg'iloniy
11-27-2005, 11:24 PM
Rosuwlulloh (SAW) hech qaysi sahobaga aytmagan "Otam wa onam sizga fido bo'lsin" iborasini bir sahobaga aytganlar, o'sha sohobiy kim?:)

Uhud jangi Musulmonlarning mag'lubiyatga uchrayotgan paytlarida Rasulullohning atroflarida faqatgina 14 ta sahoba qolgan edi (RaziAllohu anhum). Ular jo'nlarini o'rtaga qo'yib Payg'ambarimizni yuzlab mushriklar hujumidan saqlaganlar. Dushmanlar esa otliq. piyoda bulib Islom bayrog'ini yiqitishga, Payg'mabarimizni o'ldirishga harakat qilishgan. Islom bayrog'i Hz Ali (RA) qo'llarida bo'lgan. Abu Talha (RA) otilgan o'qlarga o'zlarini tutib berganlar. O'sha sahobalar ichida eng ko'p fidoiylik ko'rsatgan Hz Sa'd ibn Abi Vaqqos (RA) edilar. U zot judayam mohir mergan edilar. Dushman askariga yolg'iz o'zlari 1000 dan ortiq o'q uzdilar. Rasulullohning o'zlari unga tuhtamasdan o'q yetkazib berardilar va : "Irmi yo Sa'd, Fidoka abiy va ummiy", yani: "Otgil ey Sa'd, ota -onam senga fido bo'lsin", der edilar.

Bu so'zni Rasululloh boshqa hech kimga va hech qayerda ishlatmaganlar.

"Tarihi Muhammadiy" kitobidan.

Marg'iloniy
11-28-2005, 12:28 AM
Zayd ibn Horisa (RA) hijratning 7 chi yoki 8 chi yili (aniq bimayman) Suriya hududa Mu'ta g'azotida musulmonlarning 3000 kishilik askariga bosh qomondonlik qilganlar.
100000 dan ortiq Rum va nasroniy arab qushinlariga 3000 kishilik islom lashkari Jihodga chiqishda qurqib turganda, musulmonlarga bizga bu urushda 2 ta yahshilik bor, yutsak - yengilsak baribir bizni foydamizga deb targ'ib qilganlar.

O'zlari eng oldingi safda turib Islom Bayrog'ini baland kutarib, jang qilganlar, rivoyatlarga kura dushmanlar bayroq kutargan on'g qullarini qilich bilan chopib tashlashgan, shunda bayroqni chap qo'llariga olganlar, chap qo'llarini ham kesib tashlashganda bayroq yerga tushmasligi va boshqasi kelib olishi uchun qo'ltiqlariga qistirib olgan ekanlar. Jihodning birinchi kuni shahid bo'lganlar RaziAllohu Anhu.

1. Zayd b. Harisa. Adashmasam Qur'onda ismi zikr etilgan bittagina sahoba ham shu. Aslida paygambarimizga (sav) Xadicha onamiz tomonidan sovga qilingan qul bulgan, keyinchalik paygambarimiz ozod qilib, keyin ugil qilib olganlar. Keyinchalik bir jangda Islom qushiniga qumondonlik ham qilgan.

2. Mayli, uning unchalik ahamiyati yuq. Shokirbek aytganiday, "akkuratniy" yeyishmaydi deb quya qolaylik. Ham u yeyish hazmni tezlashtirishi qiyin, shunday emasmi? :)

infolife
12-02-2005, 05:02 AM
ha bu so'zlarni Abu-Bakr as Siddiq aytgan payg'ambarimiz SAWga. Lekin Muhammad SAW kimga aytgan? Savolni ozgina noto'ri tushunibsiz. Shokirbek, chunmadim boshqacha javob beribsiz, men buni rosa istab ahiyri bir kitobdan topdim. Muhammad saw Bilolga ham aytgan ekanku.
After the Eid Prayer, all women were about to go. Bilal stood up there and recited the verses from the Quran 60:12 and it was about giving sadaqah. Then he put his cloak off and went around while women taking their jewellery off and putting it in Bilal's cloak. Muhammad saw was so impressed by this and said 'May my father and mother be sacrificed to you'. Keyin aytibdi hozir imamla shu sunnahni qilishmay qoygan, imam namoz tugagandan song Namozni birga o'qiganlarni sadaqaga undab ashetta sadaqah yig'ilishi kere ekan.
Gareeb, siz oziz aytingchi qaysi biri to'ri javob to'ri, Bilalmi siz aytgan sahaba:rolleyes:
Abu Bakr Siddiq radianlohu anhu shu sularni aytgan. Paygambarimiz Rasululloh (pbuh) muborak ruhi poklari tanalarini tark etgandan sung, Abu Bakr r.a. honalariga kirib Rasulullohning (pbuh) muborak peshonalaridan upib "Otam va onam sizga fido bulsin Rasululloh" deb aytadi. Shu yerini uqiganimda juda ham yuraklarim galati bulib ketgan edi....

infolife
12-02-2005, 05:09 AM
Arslanchik, thank you, it was very interesting and a bit addition.
Huzayfa r.a knew all the munafiqin who were mostly jews. After the death of the noble Muhammad saw, Umar r.a went to Huzayfa asking Huzayfa r.a to tell him all the muhafiqin which Huzayfa never did. "Bu Allah, I shall not tell you this". Yet the only way Umar knew who was munafiqin, who would always ask if any muslim passes away "Did Huzayfa turn up for the janazah?" if the answer was "No" then he simply knew that muslim who died was one of the munafiqin. However, even after the deat of prophet saw Huzayfa did never tell anyone the names of any munafiqin.
Thank you so much Infolife, just a little bit addition.,
Huzayfa r.a. was known as "Keeper of Secrets". Prophet (pbuh) entrusted him with the names of the Munafiqin, and had informed him in chronological order all the facts, which Muslims were to face till the last day. He gave him full details about the incedents that were going to effect 300 or more people. Huzayfa r.a. says " other people used to ask the Prophet (pbuh) about good things, while I always asked him about bad events so that I might guard against them. One day he said he had a conversation with the Prophet of Allah:
Huzayfa r.a. "O Prophet of Allah! Shal we revert to evil after the good you brought us?"
Prophet replyed " Yes, The evil is coming." Huzayfa r.a. "Shal we have good again after that evil?" Prophet (pbuh) "Huzayfa, go and read Qur'an, meditiate on its meaning and follow its commandments." But Huzayfa r.a. wanted to know more, and he was very anxious. He kept asking about the evils that will fall on Muslims. He asked again "O Prophet of Allah! Tell me if good will come after the evil?" Prophet (pbuh) responded, yes good will come, but the hearts of the people will not be so clear." Huzayfa r.a. asked again will there be any evil after this good?" Prophet (pbuh) responded there will be such people who will misguid people and take them to Hell." Huzayfa r.a. asked again "what should I do if I witness that time?"
Prophet (pbuh) responded, "If there will be a group under one Amir, then join them, otherwise dissociate yourself from such factions and be secluded in a corner, or take a refuge in the forest un til you die." When Huzayfa r.a. was leaving this world he wept so much, and people asked him "O Huzayfa, are you weeping because you are leaving this world?" Huzayfa responded "No, I am weeping because now I am leaving this world and I do not know if Allah is pleased with me or not." He was a very close friend of Prophet (pbuh) and he loved Allah so much, but still fear of Allah was with him at the time of his death because of his Iman.
Thanks,

P

infolife
12-02-2005, 05:16 AM
U know what's Aqabah??? The first Aqabah only 12 people made a pledge to Muhammad saw to be in his service in spreading Islam. The second Aqabah, 72 people made a pledge in the outskirts of Yathrib(Madina). How many years were between 1st and second Aqabah???

Also, during which khaliphate the noble Quran was compiled as a book??? Name the four sahabas who were appointed to do so??

To'g'ri javob berganlaga 1savolga 10000 savob;2 savolga 5000 . Kelinar buni o'yinga aylantiramiz? Savol qo'ygan odam savoliga savaab qo'ydi,kim to'ri javob bersa savobni oladi i ko'ramiz ohirida kim eng ko'p savaoblani olarkin.:)

Alouddin
12-02-2005, 05:21 AM
usmon r.a. "during which khaliphate the noble Quran was compiled as a book"

infolife
12-02-2005, 05:34 AM
Alouddin, ho'nuv(uzr siz o'zimizikisiz bu so'zzi chunasiz) signaturangizdegi Al-Ahzab sur'asi qachon va nima sabab b/n tushganini bilasmi?:rolleyes: bilganga 20000 savaab.

a tak sigza yuk hozircha savab(hapa bo'p yurmen yana) to'liq javob aytmabsizku, 4 sahaba nomini aytsez 5000 savaab siziki:)

usmon r.a. "during which khaliphate the noble Quran was compiled as a book"

Alouddin
12-02-2005, 05:51 AM
hizb ut tahrirdan ogoh bo'lishimiz uchun! :D

infolife
12-02-2005, 05:57 AM
Chunmadim nima demoqchiligizzi? Menga ashi Ahzab clani b/n bogan eventti aytin savobla siziki:)
hizb ut tahrirdan ogoh bo'lishimiz uchun! :D

Gareeb
12-02-2005, 06:16 AM
Gareeb, siz oziz aytingchi qaysi biri to'ri javob to'ri, Bilalmi siz aytgan sahaba:rolleyes:
Shokirbekning jawobi to'gri.:)

Shokirbek
12-02-2005, 01:58 PM
ha bu so'zlarni Abu-Bakr as Siddiq aytgan payg'ambarimiz SAWga. Lekin Muhammad SAW kimga aytgan? Savolni ozgina noto'ri tushunibsiz. Shokirbek, chunmadim boshqacha javob beribsiz, men buni rosa istab ahiyri bir kitobdan topdim. Muhammad saw Bilolga ham aytgan ekanku.
After the Eid Prayer, all women were about to go. Bilal stood up there and recited the verses from the Quran 60:12 and it was about giving sadaqah. Then he put his cloak off and went around while women taking their jewellery off and putting it in Bilal's cloak. Muhammad saw was so impressed by this and said 'May my father and mother be sacrificed to you'. Keyin aytibdi hozir imamla shu sunnahni qilishmay qoygan, imam namoz tugagandan song Namozni birga o'qiganlarni sadaqaga undab ashetta sadaqah yig'ilishi kere ekan.
Gareeb, siz oziz aytingchi qaysi biri to'ri javob to'ri, Bilalmi siz aytgan sahaba:rolleyes:

Rosululloh (s.a.v)ning Sa'd (r.a)ga o'sha gapni aytganliklari saheh kitoblarda mashhur, buni Marg'iloniy ham batafsil keltiribdilar. U zot (Sa'd ibn Abu Vaqqos) dan tashqari Zubayr ibn Avvomga ham aytgan ekanlar (Saheh Buxoriy 3/1362 (arabcha) ), lekin Bilol (r.a.) haqidagi siz keltirgan hadis (ayollarga "sadaqa qilinglar" deb mav'iza qilgan hadis) yo'llarini ko'rib chiqib bu iboraning saheh bir rivoyatini (hatto zaif yo'lini ham) topa olmadim, inglizchaga o'girilganda xato bo'lgan bo'lishi mumkin.

Iqbol
12-02-2005, 05:41 PM
Prophet sav said: Every prophet has his hawariy, and my hawariy is.....

Who was this blessed sahaba?

ÄÆÈÃÈÒ
12-03-2005, 01:40 AM
A SECRET REVEALED TO BARNABAS

Having said this, Jesus said: `Ye needs must seek of the fruits of the field the wherewithal to sustain our life, for it is now eight days that we have eaten no bread. Wherefore I will pray to our God, and will await you with Barnabas.'

So all the disciples and apostles departed by fours and by sixes and went their way according to the word of Jesus. There remained with Jesus he who writeth; whereupon Jesus, weeping, said: `O Barnabas, it is necessary that I should reveal to thee great secrets, which, after that I shall be departed from the world, thou shalt reveal to it.'

Then answered he that writeth, weeping, and said: `Suffer me to weep, O master, and other men also, for that we are sinners. And thou, that art an holy one and prophet of God, it is not fitting for thee to weep so much.'
Jesus answered: `Believe me, Barnabas, that I cannot weep as much as I ought. For if men had not called me God, I should have seen God here as he will be seen in paradise, and should have been safe not to fear the day of judgement. But God knoweth that I am innocent, because never have I harboured thought to be held more than a poor slave. Nay, I tell thee that if I had not been called God I should have been carried into paradise when I shall depart from the world, whereas now I shall not go thither until the judgement. Now thou seest if I have cause to weep. Know, O Barnabas, that for this I must have great persecution, and shall be sold by one of my disciples for thirty pieces of money. Whereupon I am sure that he who shall sell me shall be slain in my name, for that God shall take me up from the earth, and shall change the appearance of the traitor so that every one shall believe him to be me; nevertheless, when he dieth an evil death, I shall abide in that dishonour for a long time in the world. But when Mohammed shall come, the sacred messenger of God, that infamy shall be taken away. And this shall God do because I have confessed the truth of the Messiah; who shall give me this reward, that I shall be known to be alive and to be a stranger to that death of infamy.

Then answered he that writeth: `O master, tell me who is that wretch, for I fain would choke him to death.'

`Hold thy peace,' answered Jesus, `for so God willeth, and he cannot do otherwise: but see thou that when my mother is afflicted at such an event thou tell her the truth, in order that she may be comforted,'
Then answered he who writeth: `All this will I do, master, if God please.'

www.barnabas.net (http://www.barnabas.net)

Alouddin
12-03-2005, 03:37 AM
Prophet sav said: Every prophet has his hawariy, and my hawariy is.....

Who was this blessed sahaba? Rosululloh saw'ning haworiylari kim bilmadimu, lekin u zot saw o'z sahobalariga "Alloh swt Ibrohimni as'ni xalil qildi. Keyin meni xalil qildi, lekin ummatim orasida xalilim yo'qdir" degan hadisni bugun o'qidim... :)

SHOHRUHM1
12-03-2005, 04:15 AM
goooooooooooooooooooooood

Shokirbek
12-03-2005, 05:09 AM
Rosululloh saw'ning haworiylari kim bilmadimu, lekin u zot saw o'z sahobalariga "Alloh swt Ibrohimni as'ni xalil qildi. Keyin meni xalil qildi, lekin ummatim orasida xalilim yo'qdir" degan hadisni bugun o'qidim... :)

Rosululloh (s.a.w) ning haworiylari Zubayr ibn Avvom (r.a) bo'ladilar.

infolife
12-03-2005, 05:18 AM
Mana qarang 2 si ham ishonchli manbadan topganman

The Ideal Muslimah by Muhamma Ali Al-Hashimi, page 47-48:We find this in a hadith narrated by Bukhari and Muslim from Ibn Jurayj, After the Prophet saw finished Eid prayer Bilal recited from Quran:
O prophet when beleiving woman come to you to take the oath of fealty to you, thet they will not associate anything whatever with Allah....(Quran 60:12) Bilal finished tha ayah and asked 'Are u adhering to that?' Someone said YES(later it was said she was Asma). Bilal said "Then give sadaqah" and spread out his cloak. The prophet Muhammad saw said"Come on, May my father and mother be sacrificed to you"
2. Companions of the Prophet by Abdul Wahid Hamidpage page 202:
At the battle of Uhud, 14 people were chosen to defend the Prophet saw. Some deserted and Sa'd was vigourosly fighting in defence of Him SAW. Muhammad saw said "May my father and mother be your ransom(Irmi Sad..Fidaka abi va Ummi)" Abi Talib said Muhammad saw had never said this to anyone before.

Endi uzbekchada ota-onam qurbon deganiga 1chi misol kupro mos keladida. Ransom bu qulni yo asirni ozod qilish uchun to'lanadigan pulku. Sa'd ibn Waqqasga aytilgan shunde deb.

Kim shu 2 gappi farqini chintirib bersa(Yani May my parents be sacrificed to you va May my parents be your ransom) 20000 savob beraman:)

Rosululloh (s.a.v)ning Sa'd (r.a)ga o'sha gapni aytganliklari saheh kitoblarda mashhur, buni Marg'iloniy ham batafsil keltiribdilar. U zot (Sa'd ibn Abu Vaqqos) dan tashqari Zubayr ibn Avvomga ham aytgan ekanlar (Saheh Buxoriy 3/1362 (arabcha) ), lekin Bilol (r.a.) haqidagi siz keltirgan hadis (ayollarga "sadaqa qilinglar" deb mav'iza qilgan hadis) yo'llarini ko'rib chiqib bu iboraning saheh bir rivoyatini (hatto zaif yo'lini ham) topa olmadim, inglizchaga o'girilganda xato bo'lgan bo'lishi mumkin.

infolife
12-03-2005, 07:02 AM
brothers and sisters, qadasila hammela? Shokirbek aloqaga chiqing:rolleyes:
Javob berinar savollargayey:)

mana yana 1 savol:
uhud jangida Muhammad sawni himoya qilayotgan 14 kishi orasida 1si female bo'ganiykan. Ashi female sahabani ismi nima?

infolife
12-03-2005, 07:20 AM
"If only..." deyish..........
The Messenger of God had taught Muslims that none of the should say "If.........." "If......." implied the lack of will and determination and wishing that situation might have been different not the characteristic of a firm beleiver.

Eh, men 1 ishni qilay deb keyin "if only i had..." deb yuruvdim qachandan beri, kecha shuni o'qib qoldimay, yahshi yordam berdi:)

Madalio'g'li
12-03-2005, 12:46 PM
mana yana 1 savol:
uhud jangida Muhammad sawni himoya qilayotgan 14 kishi orasida 1si female bo'ganiykan. Ashi female sahabani ismi nima?


Ümmü Umare Nuseybe binti Ka’b (radiyallohu anha)

erkak#1
12-03-2005, 02:35 PM
Ümmü Umare Nuseybe binti Ka’b (radiyallohu anha)
Shu sahaba haqida ko'proq ma'lumot bera olmaysizlarmi?

Shokirbek
12-03-2005, 11:38 PM
Shu sahaba haqida ko'proq ma'lumot bera olmaysizlarmi?

Nasiba (Nusayba deb tasg'ir shaklida aytganlar ham bor, biroq ko'pchilik ulamolar "Nasiba" deyishgan, shulardan biri Ibn Hajar al - Asqaloniy (hijriy 852 yil vafot etgan) "al - Isoba" kitobida) binti Ka'b ibn Amr ibn Avf al- Ansoriyya an-Najjoriyya.

Kunyalari - Ummi Umora.
Ibn Ishoq (hijriy 150 v.e.) ikkinchi Aqaba bay'atini hikoya qilib shunday deydi:
"Xazraj qabilasidan erkaklardan 62 kishi, ayollardan ikki kishi bor edi. Aytibdirlarki, ikki ayol Payg'ambar (s.a.v)ga bay'at qilibdilar, odatlari ayollar bilan qo'l ushlashib bay'at olmas edilar, faqat ulardan ahdu paymon olar edilar, ayollar ko'nsalar, Rosululloh (s.a.v): bay'atlaring bitdi, endi boraveringlar, der edilar.
Bu ikki ayol Nasiba va uning egachisi (singlisi) edilar (shundan so'ng Ibn Ishoq bu ayollarning nasablarini to Najjorgacha aytib chiqadi).
Nasiba bilan birga (bay'atda hozir bo'lgan kishilar orasida) eri Zayd ibn Osim, ikki o'g'li: keyinchalik Musaylima (Kazzob) qo'lida qatl etilgan Habib va mashhur "tahorat qilish sifati hadisi"ni rivoyat qiluvchi Abdulloh ham bor edi.

Siyra va g'azavot to'plovchi ulamolardan biri al-Voqidiy (207 hijriyda v.e.)ning aytishicha (o'zining "al-Mag'oziy" kitobida), Nasibaga o'g'li Habibning halok etilganligi xabari yetib kelganda Musaylimaga qarshi jihodda qatnashmoqqa ahd qiladi, so'ngra Yamoma urushida Xolid ibn Valid sarkardaligi ostida qatnashadi, Musaylima qatl etiladi, Nasiba esa urushda bir qo'lidan ayriladi.

Abu Umar Ibn Abdul Barr (463 hijriyda v.e.) (al Istiy'ob degan kitobida) bu ayolning Uhud jangida qatnashganini aytib o'tadi, Ibn Hishom esa o'z "Siyra" kitobida Ummi Sa'd binti Sa'd ibn Rabe'dan shunday rivoyat qiladi:
"Men (Ummi Sa'd aytib bermoqda) Ummi Umora (ya'ni sahobiyya Nasiba) huzuriga kirdim va: ey xola, menga hikoya qilib bering, dedim. SHunda Ummi Umora aytdilar: "Uhud jangida qo'limga suvli mesh bo'lgan holda jangga chiqdim, Rosululloh va sahobalar g'olib kelib turgan payti ekan, qachonki musulmonlar mag'lubiyatga uchrab boshlagach, Rosululloh (s.a.v) ga yaqin joyga o'tdim, urushda musulmonlarni mudofaa qilish uchun qilich bilan jang qilar edim, kamondan otar edim, nihoyat men ham jarohatlandim.
Men (rivoyat qiluvchi Ummi Sa'd) xolamning bo'yni bilan yelkasi orasida chuqur jarohat izini ko'rdim va: Bu jarohatni sizga kim yetkizgan? deb so'radim. "Ibn Qami'a (hamza bilan o'qilsin) deb javob berdi.

Yana Abu Umar Ibn Abdul Barr (al Istiy'ob degan kitobida) aytadilar: "Bu ayol Rizvon bay'atida, Yamoma jangida qatnashgan, Yamomada bir qo'li kesilib ketgan, o'n ikki joyidan jarohat olgan. Rosululloh (s.a.v)dan "Ro'zador kishi oldida ovqat tanovul qilinsa ro'zadorga farishtalar salavot aytib turadi" degan hadisni shu ayol rivoyat qilgan".

infolife
12-04-2005, 06:12 AM
shu toppa tori. rahmat sizga. qiziq narsa topvoldim:)
Asharatu-l mubashshirun- the Promised Ten
The prophet promised paradise to ten of the sahabas for their outstanding servise in Islam: Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman, Ali, Abdur-Rahman inb Awf, Abu Ubaydah,Talhah, az Zubayr, Sa'd of Zuhrah, Said ibn Zayd.

in giving advise to his companions The prophet saw said:
"Learn the Quran from 4 persons: Abdullah Ibn Masud, Salim mawla Abi Hudayfa, Ubay ibn Ka'b, Muadh ibn Jabal."

E'tibor berseyla, Salim Mawla abi Hudayfa deyilgan yani Mawla-protected person degani, Salim otasini ismini bilmaga qul, Abu Hudayfa tomonidan asrab olinga ugil bo'lgan. They both seeked martyrdom and were so in the battle of Yamamah(Muhammad sawdan song paygambarlikni davol qilgan Musaylamahga qarshi bolgan jang).They were closer than brothers. Of them sahabas said: "Together they had entered Islam, together they had lived and together they were martyred".

Of Salim Umar ibn Al KHattab said"If Salim were alive I would have appointed him as my successor".

Ümmü Umare Nuseybe binti Ka’b (radiyallohu anha)

satik
12-04-2005, 06:26 AM
Balki ketyatkan bahsni oqimiga mos emasdir, lekin ahloq uchun bilish juda zarur bir hadis:
Rasululloh S.A.W demishlar:"Kim mo'minning o'g'zini so'ksa, bas u kofirdir". !!!
Kunimizda "Otayni o'g'ziga...", "o'g'zingga..." wa shu kabi boshqa ko'plab halq og'zaki ijodi namunalari bo'lib, ular dinimizga, iymonimizga juda zararli ekan.

P.S. Habarlarni yozayotganda bitta tildan foydalansa bo'meydimi????

Shokirbek
12-04-2005, 07:02 AM
Balki ketyatkan bahsni oqimiga mos emasdir, lekin ahloq uchun bilish juda zarur bir hadis:
Rasululloh S.A.W demishlar:"Kim mo'minning o'g'zini so'ksa, bas u kofirdir". !!!
Kunimizda "Otayni o'g'ziga...", "o'g'zingga..." wa shu kabi boshqa ko'plab halq og'zaki ijodi namunalari bo'lib, ular dinimizga, iymonimizga juda zararli ekan.

P.S. Habarlarni yozayotganda bitta tildan foydalansa bo'meydimi????

Manbani ko'rsatsangiz yaxshi bo'lar edi, to'g'ri, bunday so'kishlarning harom ekanligida shubha yo'q, biroq "Kim mo'minning o'g'zini so'ksa, bas u kofirdir" degan hadisni haligacha uchratmagan ekanman.

"Mo'minni la'natlash uni qatl etish bilan barobar" degan mashhur hadis bor lekin (Imom Buxoriy 5/2247, 2264, Imom Muslim 1/104, 4/2029 va boshqalar rivoyat qilishgan).

Akhee-Abdullah
12-04-2005, 10:04 AM
Assalam alaikum wa rahmatullah;

English:

Who is this person the ayats are referring to as "he", if we confirm this to Ibrahim alayhissalam, would not we be saying he was of the mushrikeen then he came to the Islaam, naudhibillah??:

When the night covered him over with darkness he saw a star. He said: "This is my lord." But when it set, he said: "I like not those that set." (Al-An'am 6:76)


When he saw the moon rising up, he said: "This is my lord." But when it set, he said: "Unless my Lord guides me, I shall surely be among the erring people." (Al-An'am 6:77)


When he saw the sun rising up, he said: "This is my lord. This is greater." But when it set, he said: "O my people! I am indeed free from all that you join as partners in worship with Allâh. (Al-An'am 6:78)

Ozbek;

Ushbu Oyati karimalarda "U" deb kim nazarda tutilyapti? Agar Ibrohim alayhissalam desak, biz u kishi qachonlardir mushrik bulgan ekan deb qolmaymizmi, naudhibillah?..: ) Jawobini iltimos tafsir kitoblaridan qidiringlar inshaAllah topasizlar:

6.76 . Óíè òóí ¢ðàá îëãàíèäà þëäóçíè ê¢ðèá: «Ìàíà øó Ðîááèìäèð», äåäè. Ó áîòèá êåòãàíèäà ýñà: «Áîòóâ÷èëàðíè ¸kòèðìàñìàí», äåäè.


6.77 . ×èkà¸òãàí îéíè ê¢ðãàíäà: «Ìàíà øó Ðîááèìäèð», äåäè. Ó xàì áîòãàíèäà: «Àãàð Ðîááèì ìåíè ò¢rðè é¢ëãà áîøëàìàñà, àëáàòòà, àäàøóâ÷èëàðäàí á¢ëàìàí», äåäè.

6.78 . ×èkà¸òãàí kó¸øíè ê¢ðãàíäà: «Ìàíà øó Ðîááèì. Áó êàòòàðîk», äåäè. Ó xàì áîòèá êåòãàíèäà: «Ýé kàâìèì, ìåí ñèç øèðê êåëòèðà¸òãàí íàðñàäàí âîç êå÷äèì», äåäè.

Ulug'bek
12-04-2005, 12:44 PM
Assalam alaikum wa rahmatullah;



English:

Who is this person the ayats are referring to as "he", if we confirm this to Ibrahim alayhissalam, would not we be saying he was of the mushrikeen then he came to the Islaam, naudhibillah??:



Ozbek;

Ushbu Oyati karimalarda "U" deb kim nazarda tutilyapti? Agar Ibrohim alayhissalam desak, biz u kishi qachonlardir mushrik bulgan ekan deb qolmaymizmi, naudhibillah?..: ) Jawobini iltimos tafsir kitoblaridan qidiringlar inshaAllah topasizlar:

Shak-shubhasiz oyatda nazarda tutilgan shaxs Ibrohim as dir, buni ko'rish uchun mana shu oyatlardan oldingi bir necha oyatni oq'sih kifoya.
U kishining shu so'zlarni haqiqy manoda va yoki faqat o'z qavmining aqllarini ochish uchungina aytganliklari haqida olimlar turli qarashga egadirlar; aksariyat olimlar U kishi bu gaplarni haqiqiy manoda aytmagan degan qarashda. Bu qarsh egalari o'z fikrlarini 'U mushriklardan bo'lmagandi' kabi manodagi oyatlarga va payg'ambarlar shirk va kufrdan masumlar degan 'dalil'lar bilan quvvatlaydilar. Qarshi fikrdagi ozchilik esa, bu manoda rivoyat qilingan ko'plab isroiliyot va oyat siyoqining va zohiri bilan quvvatlaydilar. Men bular qatoriga bu qissada voqeaning juda uzoq chuzilganligi (kun botgandan kun chiqqunga qadar) haqiqiy manoda aytilganligi quvvatlashini, (albatta bu payt U kishi yosh bola bo'lganlar), hamma olimlar ham payg'ambarlar kabiradan masum demasliklari, tavba gunoh bo'lmaganga tenglashtirishini va yana bu kabi holat hali payg'ambarlik berilmasdan oldin bo'lishi (masalan, Yunus as ni baliq yutishi qissasida bazilar bu payg'ambarlikdan oldin bo'lgan deyishgan) ehtimoli borligini ham qo'shgan bo'lardim.

satik
12-04-2005, 03:04 PM
Manbani ko'rsatsangiz yaxshi bo'lar edi, to'g'ri, bunday so'kishlarning harom ekanligida shubha yo'q, biroq "Kim mo'minning o'g'zini so'ksa, bas u kofirdir" degan hadisni haligacha uchratmagan ekanman.

"Mo'minni la'natlash uni qatl etish bilan barobar" degan mashhur hadis bor lekin (Imom Buxoriy 5/2247, 2264, Imom Muslim 1/104, 4/2029 va boshqalar rivoyat qilishgan).
Aka uzr, men unaqa kitob ko'rgan olim odammasman. Sizga aniq manba'ni ko'rsatolmayman. O'zi shuni so'rashadi deb o'ylovdim.
Bu hadisni men qo'qonlik bir olimning ma'ruzasida eshitganman, o'zlari Shayh Muhammad Sodiq hazratlarining yaqin shogirdi. Sanadlarini eslab qolmaganakanman.
Arabchasi "Man shatama famal mu'mini, fahuwa kafirun."
Keyin, sizni bilmaganiz Hadisni mavjud emas deyishga hech asos bo'lolmaydi.
Albatta, sizning Hadis ilmidagi aniqlikka rioya qilish haqidagi fikringizga 500% qo'shilaman.

Ulug'bek
12-04-2005, 04:10 PM
Balki ketyatkan bahsni oqimiga mos emasdir, lekin ahloq uchun bilish juda zarur bir hadis:
Rasululloh S.A.W demishlar:"Kim mo'minning o'g'zini so'ksa, bas u kofirdir". !!!
Kunimizda "Otayni o'g'ziga...", "o'g'zingga..." wa shu kabi boshqa ko'plab halq og'zaki ijodi namunalari bo'lib, ular dinimizga, iymonimizga juda zararli ekan.
P.S. Habarlarni yozayotganda bitta tildan foydalansa bo'meydimi????

Haqiqatdan ham, tillarini buzub gapiradigan bazi ruslar tasirida shakllangan ko'cha qo'llanuvidagi buzuq 'o'zbekcha'da shunaqa so'kishlar juda ko'p!

Hozir izlab, eng so'nggi mash'hur hanafiy olimlardan biri Ibn Obidin hazratlari (العقود الدرية في تنقيح الفتاوى الحامدية) kitoblarining 'Riddah va Ta'zir' bobida mana shu masalaga oid 1 qiziq va men uchun yangilik (va ayni paytda shubhali) malumotni aytib o'tganlarini uchratdim!
U yerda, xotini yuqorida ko'rsatilganidek so'kkan (ammo er qilmishlarining davomi ham bor ) kishi hukmi haqida so'ralganlarida Ibn Obidin 'Jomeul Fatowo' (556 h. da vafot etgan Muhammad ibn Yusuf al-Samarqandi - hanafiy faqih ) kitobida : Hamma olimlar nazdida musulmon kishining og'zini so'kkan kishi kofir bo'lishi va uning sababi musulmonning og'zi iymon va Qur'on o'rni ekanligi ekanini tayanib aytib o'tganlar.
Bu yerda 1-tug'iladigan savol bu bunday gunoh bilan qanday qilib dindan chiqib ketilishi bo'lsa, 2- savol, Ular 'hamma olimlar' deganlarida faqat hanafiy olimlarni nazarda tutishgani yo tutmaganlaridir.
Shokirbek aytganidek, bu so'kishning haromligida xilog yo'q, ammo bu ish kishini dindan chiqarishgacha borishidir!
Agar bu so'z (alsida masala sababchisi) hadisda bo'lganda, Alloh SWT ne'matiga kufronalik va yo shunga o'xshash ta'vil qilish imkkoni bo'lishi mumkin edi, ammo bu yerdagi muammo bu 2 buyuk olimning bu masala olimlar hammasining fikri deyishidir.

Ayni paytda, bu 2 olim fikriga qarshi dalil sifatida mash'hur hadis (Uni rivoyat qilganlar orasida Buxoriy va Muslim ham bor) da 'Musulmonni so'kish fosiqlikdir va uni qatl qilish esa kofirlikdir' degan hadis va uning sharhida olimlar aytgan gaplarni eslash kifoyadir (Bular ichida Tahoviy va Saraxsiy kabi hanafiy olimlar ham bor), ular bu hadisni sharhlayotib, musulmonni o'ldirish hamma vaqt ham musulmonchilikdan chiqarmasligini aytadilar, so'kish haqida gapirayotib kofirlikka olib borishi haqida gapirmaydilar ham, demak so'kish dindan chiqarmasligi aniqdek. Bu qarash ahli sunnaning boshqa mazhablari kabi hanafiy olimlarning ham qarashi ekanligini yodga olsak, Ibn Obidin va Jomeul Fatovo egasi naqliga kuchli shubha bilan qarashga haqqimiz bor.

Endi, masalaga to'g'ridan-to'g'ri bog'liq joyi: Bu hadisni minglab jild kitoblarni ichiga olgan CD lardan topolmadim, ammo yuqorida atib o'tganim malumot shunaqa hadis bo'lishi ham mumkinligiga ishoradek tuyuladi, chunki yuqoridagi 2 olim aytgan qarash bejiz bo'lmasa kerak:rolleyes: .

Shokirbek
12-04-2005, 10:47 PM
Aka uzr, men unaqa kitob ko'rgan olim odammasman. Sizga aniq manba'ni ko'rsatolmayman. O'zi shuni so'rashadi deb o'ylovdim.
Bu hadisni men qo'qonlik bir olimning ma'ruzasida eshitganman, o'zlari Shayh Muhammad Sodiq hazratlarining yaqin shogirdi. Sanadlarini eslab qolmaganakanman.
Arabchasi "Man shatama famal mu'mini, fahuwa kafirun."
Keyin, sizni bilmaganiz Hadisni mavjud emas deyishga hech asos bo'lolmaydi.
Albatta, sizning Hadis ilmidagi aniqlikka rioya qilish haqidagi fikringizga 500% qo'shilaman.

Albatta, hech asos bo'lolmaydi, buni men ham da'vo qilmadim, lekin Ummahotul kutub (Islomdagi eng asosiy manbalar) bo'lgan kitoblar ichida uchramasligi meni shubhaga soldi.

"Ridda va ta'zir" bobida bizning mazhabimiz boshqa mazhablarga qaraganda kuchliroq, buni shu bobda kelgan masalalarni solishtirgan kishi ochiq-oydin his qiladi.

Alloma Ibn Obidin hazratlari aytib o'tgan fatvoda o'zlarining hukmlariga dalil sifatida "musulmonning og'zi iymon va Qur'on o'rni ekanligi ekanini" aytib o'tishlarining o'zi ham bu fatvo chuqur aqliy dalilga tayangan fatvo ekanligini ko'rsatib turibdi, chunki, Ibn Obidindek faqih va alloma bir zot havzasida bunga mos dalil hadisda bor bo'lganida (bo'lib ham u kishi gapirayotgan masalaga "g'isht qolipidek" mos keladigan hadis mavjud bo'lganida) albatta buni zikr qilmasdan o'tmasdilar.

Ulamolar o'zlarining keng qamrovli ilmlaridan kelib chiqib turli masalalarda Kitob va sunnat asosida rangbarang bebaho fatvolar chiqarganlar, bu fatvolarning barchasi Islomdagi mashhur to'rtta tayanch (Kitob, Sunnat, ijmo' va qiyos) asosida ekanligida hech shak-shubha yo'q.

Yuqoridagi masalada ham bu fatvo (mening nazarimda qiyos asosida chiqarilgan fatvo) kishilar qulog'iga hadis bo'lib yetib borgan bo'lsa ajab emas.

Shundoq bo'lsada biror kishi kelib: "Mana, falon kitobda falon sanad orqali Rosululloh (s.a.v)dan rivoyat qilingan ekan, sanadi ham saheh (yoki hasan, yoki qabul qilsa bo'ladigan sanad bilan) ekan" desa, bizga vojib bo'lgan narsa bu hadisni qabul qilmoqdir.

Marg'iloniy
12-05-2005, 12:19 AM
Savol: Rasululloh (SAV) Handaq jangida qaysi sahobani maslahatiga ko'ra handaq qazdirganlar??

satik
12-05-2005, 01:03 AM
Albatta, hech asos bo'lolmaydi, buni men ham da'vo qilmadim, lekin Ummahotul kutub (Islomdagi eng asosiy manbalar) bo'lgan kitoblar ichida uchramasligi meni shubhaga soldi.

"Ridda va ta'zir" bobida bizning mazhabimiz boshqa mazhablarga qaraganda kuchliroq, buni shu bobda kelgan masalalarni solishtirgan kishi ochiq-oydin his qiladi.

Alloma Ibn Obidin hazratlari aytib o'tgan fatvoda o'zlarining hukmlariga dalil sifatida "musulmonning og'zi iymon va Qur'on o'rni ekanligi ekanini" aytib o'tishlarining o'zi ham bu fatvo chuqur aqliy dalilga tayangan fatvo ekanligini ko'rsatib turibdi, chunki, Ibn Obidindek faqih va alloma bir zot havzasida bunga mos dalil hadisda bor bo'lganida (bo'lib ham u kishi gapirayotgan masalaga "g'isht qolipidek" mos keladigan hadis mavjud bo'lganida) albatta buni zikr qilmasdan o'tmasdilar.

Ulamolar o'zlarining keng qamrovli ilmlaridan kelib chiqib turli masalalarda Kitob va sunnat asosida rangbarang bebaho fatvolar chiqarganlar, bu fatvolarning barchasi Islomdagi mashhur to'rtta tayanch (Kitob, Sunnat, ijmo' va qiyos) asosida ekanligida hech shak-shubha yo'q.

Yuqoridagi masalada ham bu fatvo (mening nazarimda qiyos asosida chiqarilgan fatvo) kishilar qulog'iga hadis bo'lib yetib borgan bo'lsa ajab emas.

Shundoq bo'lsada biror kishi kelib: "Mana, falon kitobda falon sanad orqali Rosululloh (s.a.v)dan rivoyat qilingan ekan, sanadi ham saheh (yoki hasan, yoki qabul qilsa bo'ladigan sanad bilan) ekan" desa, bizga vojib bo'lgan narsa bu hadisni qabul qilmoqdir.

Ha endi , ajab emas, shunaqangi ilmiy bahslar natijasida, sekin sekin zarur masalalarni o'rganib borsak.

infolife
12-05-2005, 05:59 AM
Kofirdir degan jayi yolgon ekan shekilli. Manba Companions of the Prothet saw.
Payg'ambarimiz saw Madinaga ko'chib kelganda yer bo'linga ekan hammaga. Sahabalardan biri at hoz esimda yuq, juda ham kambag'al, payg'ambarimiz uylab quyaymi deb 3 marta surgan ekan undan, ashi kishiga Abu-Bakr as Siddiq r.aning yanidan jay berilipti. Ikkovini yeri tutashgan jayda bir darahtni Abu-Bakr r. a bilan usha Sahaba talashib qogan ekan, Abu-Bakr As Siddiq uni sokvoribdi,yomon gap bilan. U sahaba esa indamabdi, keyin Abu-Bakr "Oh, my brother, please say to me what I've said to you" deb rasa yalinsa ham u sahaba men unaqa gapni aytmayman debdi. Jahli chiqqan Abu-Bakr payg'ambarimiz Muhammad sawga borib aytibdi bogan voqeani, va talab qilibdi"Meni ham so'ksin deb". Ine payg'ambarimiz aytgan ekan"Never say what he said to you. Instead say"May Allah forgive you" and Abu-Bakr make your repentness in public" Abu-Bakr rosa yig'lagan ekan va u darahtni boshqa hech eslamabdi. usha sahabaga qolibdi.

Siz aytgan "og'zigalar" albatta zararda, u obviousku.

Fatimah onamizni o'qippan kicha yiglab yiglab, 29 yoshida olamdan utgan ekan, eng sevimli qizi bogan ekan. Va payg'ambarimizni avlodi ham faqat shu Fatimah onamiz orqali davom etgan ekan. Noshqa qizlaridan bogan farzandlar yoshligida o'lib ketgan ekan.:(
Balki ketyatkan bahsni oqimiga mos emasdir, lekin ahloq uchun bilish juda zarur bir hadis:
Rasululloh S.A.W demishlar:"Kim mo'minning o'g'zini so'ksa, bas u kofirdir". !!!
Kunimizda "Otayni o'g'ziga...", "o'g'zingga..." wa shu kabi boshqa ko'plab halq og'zaki ijodi namunalari bo'lib, ular dinimizga, iymonimizga juda zararli ekan.

P.S. Habarlarni yozayotganda bitta tildan foydalansa bo'meydimi????

Madalio'g'li
12-05-2005, 10:18 AM
Savol: Rasululloh (SAV) Handaq jangida qaysi sahobani maslahatiga ko'ra handaq qazdirganlar??


Assalomu alaykum

Handaq uchun maslahat bergan sahobi Salmoni Forisiy (r.a)...Ansor va muhajir Salmonni "Bizdandir!" deb bo'lib olishmaguncha Rasululloh (sav) "Salmon bizdandir. U ahli baytimdandir." buyurdi...

Akhee-Abdullah
12-05-2005, 04:52 PM
Shak-shubhasiz oyatda nazarda tutilgan shaxs Ibrohim as dir, buni ko'rish uchun mana shu oyatlardan oldingi bir necha oyatni oq'sih kifoya.
U kishining shu so'zlarni haqiqy manoda va yoki faqat o'z qavmining aqllarini ochish uchungina aytganliklari haqida olimlar turli qarashga egadirlar; aksariyat olimlar U kishi bu gaplarni haqiqiy manoda aytmagan degan qarashda. Bu qarsh egalari o'z fikrlarini 'U mushriklardan bo'lmagandi' kabi manodagi oyatlarga va payg'ambarlar shirk va kufrdan masumlar degan 'dalil'lar bilan quvvatlaydilar. Qarshi fikrdagi ozchilik esa, bu manoda rivoyat qilingan ko'plab isroiliyot va oyat siyoqining va zohiri bilan quvvatlaydilar. Men bular qatoriga bu qissada voqeaning juda uzoq chuzilganligi (kun botgandan kun chiqqunga qadar) haqiqiy manoda aytilganligi quvvatlashini, (albatta bu payt U kishi yosh bola bo'lganlar), hamma olimlar ham payg'ambarlar kabiradan masum demasliklari, tavba gunoh bo'lmaganga tenglashtirishini va yana bu kabi holat hali payg'ambarlik berilmasdan oldin bo'lishi (masalan, Yunus as ni baliq yutishi qissasida bazilar bu payg'ambarlikdan oldin bo'lgan deyishgan) ehtimoli borligini ham qo'shgan bo'lardim.

Assalam alaikum,


Taqsir...tafsir kitoblaridan bir iqtibos bersangiz...jamoaga foydali bularidi inshallah. Jawob uchun oldindan tashakkurlar.


Wassalam alaikum wa rahamtullah.

infolife
12-06-2005, 03:16 AM
Salman al Farsi, originally from Ishafan in Persia the village of Jayyan. His father was dihqan,the chief of the village and had the biggest house.

Father loved him greatly and kept him in house fearing sth might happen to him. He sent Salman out one day to his estate cos he was so busy. Salman went past the Christian church and went in. He was so driven to what they'r saying couldn't leave till night. He came back home and told his father'Their religion is better than ours.(his religion was Magian-worshipping fire)'. Father became angry and kept him in house again.

He managed to join the caravan and headed to Syria. There He stayed with the bishop of the church, soon enough he saw it was corrupted. Then he stayed there untill he heard the news of Islam. He gave all his money to join the caravan going to Madinah. But they sold him to a Jew on the way.:(
A jew sold him to a nephew in Madinah, and he was in Madinah on the palm tree when Muhammad saw arrived. He couldn't participate in the Battle of Uhud and Badr as he was still slave and had to work his head off. He couldn't pay the amount either to set himself free. He went to the Prophet saw and asked help. prophet promised to help with the price - 40 ounces of gold and 300 date palms. This prophet saw did with the help of Sahabah.

Battle of Khandaq-great alliances of Quraysh army joined by jewish Khaybar and Banu Asad and Banu Ghafatan-there was no way on to win them. Salman al-Farsi said"O Messenger of GOD, in Persia when we fear attack of cavalry, we would surround ourselves with a trench, let's dig a trench". The suggestion was accepted and finished in 6 days, on a whole plan of Salman. in its depth and width. When Abu-Sufyan the leader of Makkans saw the trench he said"This strataegy hasn't been employed by Arabs before".

Question: The battle of Trench who threw threat among Quraysh alliences and led to the ultimate victory? One of the men from enemy side? He was watching stars outside the camp and suddenly had faith in the Messenger of God and went straight up to him and accepted islam that night. Porphet sent him back with a task as none among his ppl knew he became a Muslim over that night. Who was tha sahaba?

Savol: Rasululloh (SAV) Handaq jangida qaysi sahobani maslahatiga ko'ra handaq qazdirganlar??

Marg'iloniy
12-06-2005, 04:27 AM
While the Muhammad(SAV) and sahabas where fighting in Khandaq with Quraysh and Jews, Nu'aym ibn Mas'ud from the Ghatafan came up to him to say that he became Muslim.

Muhammad (SAV) said that he was the only Muslim in the enemies side, and he should stay among the enemies and try to help Muslims in whatever way he can.

Nu'aym ibn Mas'ud then went to the Banu Qurayzah and aroused doubts in their minds about their position. He mentioned their alliance with the Quraysh and Ghatafan who were distant tribes, and their antagonism towards the Muhajirun and Ansar who were their close neighbours. He suggested they should not fight alongside the Quraysh and Ghatafan until they had taken some leaders as hostages for security. Then he told to Quraysh that the Jews were regretting what they had done and would be asking for some of their leaders to be held hostage as security that the treaty would not be broken. He also said that when they handed them over to the Prophet and his Companions, they would strike off their heads. Then he told the Ghatafan the same story as he had told the Quraysh. The seeds of distrust that he planted in their minds put the two groups on their guard and made them angry with the Jews. A split developed between the allies as a result, and each of them feared the others. When Abu Sufuyon and the leaders of the Ghatafan were ready to fight a decisive battle with the Muslims, the Jews put it off, demanding hostages from both sides first. The Quraysh and Ghatafan were convinced that Nu'aym ibn Mas'ud had told them the truth so they refused to grant the Jews' request. The Jews were also convinced that he had told them the truth. Thus their distrust of each other broke their unity and they split up

Salman al Farsi, originally from Ishafan in Persia the village of Jayyan. His father was dihqan,the chief of the village and had the biggest house.

Father loved him greatly and kept him in house fearing sth might happen to him. He sent Salman out one day to his estate cos he was so busy. Salman went past the Christian church and went in. He was so driven to what they'r saying couldn't leave till night. He came back home and told his father'Their religion is better than ours.(his religion was Magian-worshipping fire)'. Father became angry and kept him in house again.

He managed to join the caravan and headed to Syria. There He stayed with the bishop of the church, soon enough he saw it was corrupted. Then he stayed there untill he heard the news of Islam. He gave all his money to join the caravan going to Madinah. But they sold him to a Jew on the way.:(
A jew sold him to a nephew in Madinah, and he was in Madinah on the palm tree when Muhammad saw arrived. He couldn't participate in the Battle of Uhud and Badr as he was still slave and had to work his head off. He couldn't pay the amount either to set himself free. He went to the Prophet saw and asked help. prophet promised to help with the price - 40 ounces of gold and 300 date palms. This prophet saw did with the help of Sahabah.

Battle of Khandaq-great alliances of Quraysh army joined by jewish Khaybar and Banu Asad and Banu Ghafatan-there was no way on to win them. Salman al-Farsi said"O Messenger of GOD, in Persia when we fear attack of cavalry, we would surround ourselves with a trench, let's dig a trench". The suggestion was accepted and finished in 6 days, on a whole plan of Salman. in its depth and width. When Abu-Sufyan the leader of Makkans saw the trench he said"This strataegy hasn't been employed by Arabs before".

Question: The battle of Trench who threw threat among Quraysh alliences and led to the ultimate victory? One of the men from enemy side? He was watching stars outside the camp and suddenly had faith in the Messenger of God and went straight up to him and accepted islam that night. Porphet sent him back with a task as none among his ppl knew he became a Muslim over that night. Who was tha sahaba?

Ulug'bek
12-06-2005, 04:35 AM
Assalam alaikum,
Taqsir...tafsir kitoblaridan bir iqtibos bersangiz...jamoaga foydali bularidi inshallah. Jawob uchun oldindan tashakkurlar.
Wassalam alaikum wa rahamtullah.

Akhee-Abdullah, yozganingizga yaxshi tushunmadim, nima haqda tafsir kiroblaridan iqtibos yoki manbalarni ko'rsatishim lozim?
Bu oyatda u haqda gap borayotgan kishi aynan Ibrohim alayhis-salom ekanligi haqidami yoki bu yerda men ikkilamchi masalalar tarzda to'xtalgan mavzularga oidmi?
Payg'ambarlar qanaqa gunohlarni qilishi mumkin yoki emasligi juda qizg'in bahsli masala bo'lib 1 postda bu haqdagi hama qarash va dalillarini tushunarli qilib qamrab olish mushkulov :).

infolife
12-06-2005, 04:48 AM
Hade Nuaym ibn Mas'ud rosa boplagan ekana ularni:) Bu Allohni mo'jizasi, hamma hypoctretlar usha kuni Muhammad sawga "Alloh granted ultimate victory for those who beleive in Him" Where is the victory for us deb rosa davo qilgan ekan. Muhammas saw yig'lab Allohga duo qilgan paytda Nuaym yulduzlarni tomosha qilib yotgan ekan i payg'ambarimizzi duolaridan keyinla dushman tomonda urushayotgan odam o'zicha uylab qopti "Nega men to'g'ri yo'lga boshlayotgan insonga qarshi kurash qilay deb".:) SubhanAlloh yomon boplagan ekanda mushriklarni oma,voh mazza qippan o'qib :lol: Bu kimmi hikoyasi:
"One day my hunger became so severe that I placed a stone in my stomach. I then sat down in the path of companions. Abu-Bakr passed by and I asked him about and ayah of the Quran. I only asked him so that he would invite me to eat but he didn't. The Umar ibn-Al-Khattab(qandey musulmon bo'gani rosa qiziq ekan:) ) and I asked him about an ayah but he didn't invite me. Then the Messenger of God,peace be on him, passed by and realized I was hungry and said my name. 'At your command' I asnwered. we went to his house he found a bowl of milk and invite Ahl-As Suffan and we all drank from that milk".
Kim shuni hikoya qilyapti?
While the Muhammad(SAV) and sahabas where fighting in Khandaq with Quraysh and Jews, Nu'aym ibn Mas'ud from the Ghatafan came up to him to say that he became Muslim.

Muhammad (SAV) said that he was the only Muslim in the enemies side, and he should stay among the enemies and try to help Muslims in whatever way he can.

Nu'aym ibn Mas'ud then went to the Banu Qurayzah and aroused doubts in their minds about their position. He mentioned their alliance with the Quraysh and Ghatafan who were distant tribes, and their antagonism towards the Muhajirun and Ansar who were their close neighbours. He suggested they should not fight alongside the Quraysh and Ghatafan until they had taken some leaders as hostages for security. Then he told to Quraysh that the Jews were regretting what they had done and would be asking for some of their leaders to be held hostage as security that the treaty would not be broken. He also said that when they handed them over to the Prophet and his Companions, they would strike off their heads. Then he told the Ghatafan the same story as he had told the Quraysh. The seeds of distrust that he planted in their minds put the two groups on their guard and made them angry with the Jews. A split developed between the allies as a result, and each of them feared the others. When Abu Sufuyon and the leaders of the Ghatafan were ready to fight a decisive battle with the Muslims, the Jews put it off, demanding hostages from both sides first. The Quraysh and Ghatafan were convinced that Nu'aym ibn Mas'ud had told them the truth so they refused to grant the Jews' request. The Jews were also convinced that he had told them the truth. Thus their distrust of each other broke their unity and they split up

infolife
12-07-2005, 06:09 AM
Qayerda tuhtagan payg'ambarimiz sawning tuyalari?:)
It stopped in an open space in front of the House of Abu-Ayyub Al Ansari.
His house was 2 stored. He emptied the upper store but prophet prefered th lower saying that sahabas would visit him very often and it would disturb them. First night, Abu-Ayyub and his wife couldn't sleep at all, worrying that they would walk on top of the Messenger of God! They only walked on the outer parts of the floor and moved to the side to sleep. They couldn't sleep at all. In the morning Abu-Ayyub went to the prophet saw and said "we didn't sleep a wink last night" Prophet asked why? He explained how terrified they were to sleep on top of the Messenger of God! They changed floors.
Muhammad saw lived in his house for almost 7 months untill his mosque next to Abu-Ayyubs hous was completed. Muhammad saw moved to the rooms built around the mosque and became a neighbor to Abu Ayyub.

Muhammas SAV Makkadan Madinaga hijrat qilib shaharga kirib kelayotganlarida ansoriylar u kishini hammalari uz uylariga joylashtirishni orzulab qoldilar, shunda payg'ambarimiz ansoriylarni har birini hafa qilmaslik uchun, ihtiyorni tuyalariga berdilar va "u topshiriq olgan, u qayerga borib tuhtasa usha yerga masjid va menga uy quramiz",- dedilar. va ushbu oyatni uqidilar:

- Robbi anzilni munzalan mubarokan va anta hayrul munziliyn.

Ma'nosi: Robbim, meni qutlug' muborak, o'ringa tushurginki, sen tushurguchilarning eng yahshisidirsan.

Shundan beri biror joyga safarga borilganda, joy tanlashda ushbu oyatni uqish musulmonlarga sunnat bulib qolgan.
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Alesser
12-07-2005, 06:53 AM
Hade Nuaym ibn Mas'ud rosa boplagan ekana ularni:) Bu Allohni mo'jizasi, hamma hypoctretlar usha kuni Muhammad sawga "Alloh granted ultimate victory for those who beleive in Him" Where is the victory for us deb rosa davo qilgan ekan. Muhammas saw yig'lab Allohga duo qilgan paytda Nuaym yulduzlarni tomosha qilib yotgan ekan i payg'ambarimizzi duolaridan keyinla dushman tomonda urushayotgan odam o'zicha uylab qopti "Nega men to'g'ri yo'lga boshlayotgan insonga qarshi kurash qilay deb".:) SubhanAlloh yomon boplagan ekanda mushriklarni oma,voh mazza qippan o'qib :lol: Bu kimmi hikoyasi:
"One day my hunger became so severe that I placed a stone in my stomach. I then sat down in the path of companions. Abu-Bakr passed by and I asked him about and ayah of the Quran. I only asked him so that he would invite me to eat but he didn't. The Umar ibn-Al-Khattab(qandey musulmon bo'gani rosa qiziq ekan:) ) and I asked him about an ayah but he didn't invite me. Then the Messenger of God,peace be on him, passed by and realized I was hungry and said my name. 'At your command' I asnwered. we went to his house he found a bowl of milk and invite Ahl-As Suffan and we all drank from that milk".
Kim shuni hikoya qilyapti?

Bu Sahaba haqida men ham yaqinda uqigan edim, lekin negadir hozir ismlari yodimga tushmadi. Adashmasam, Abu Hurayra Radianlahu Anhum, u kishi juda ham nochor yashab utganlar. Ushanda Sarvari Olam Rasululloh (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) usha yarim kosa sutni bir necha Sahobalar bilan birgalikda baham kuradi. Rasululloh (pbuh) boshqa bir necha Sahobalarni ham taklif qilganini kurgan Sahoba (adashmasam Abu Hurayra r.a.) birinchi hayron buladi, yarim kosa sutga shuncha odam deb, lekin keyin aytadiki hamma ichib bulgandan sung Rasululloh ul kishiga kosani tutqazadi. Sahobani qorinlari tuyib yana kosada sut oshib qoladi. Mana shuni baraka deydi, yarim kosa sut bir necha Sahobani qornini tuygazdi......
Infolife, ushbu post uchun rahmat!

infolife
12-07-2005, 11:44 AM
Rahmat sizga ham. Hada, shu Abu-Hurayra r.a juda ham kambagal bogan ekan:( yeyishga ovqatiyu kiyishga kiyimi yuk bogan ekankopincha, lekin bilmi togdey:)
Avval ismlari Abu-Shams, Quyoshni quli bogan. Islomga kirgandan song paygambarimiz saw ning maslahati bilan Abdur-RAhman-Allohning quli deb yangi ism olibdi. Lekin negadir hamma Abu-Hurayra deb chaqirib urgangan ekan undan keyin ham.
Payg'ambarimiz saw ning aytgan barcha sunnatlari, hadislarining eng ko'pi 2 kishi orqali bizga yetib kelgan. Biri Aisha onamiz va ikkinchisi Abu-Hurayra r.a.
Muslims owe an enourmous debt of gratitute to Him for his help to preserve the legacy of the Prophet Muhammad saw. He died in 59 AH, when he was 78 years old.

Bu Sahaba haqida men ham yaqinda uqigan edim, lekin negadir hozir ismlari yodimga tushmadi. Adashmasam, Abu Hurayra Radianlahu Anhum, u kishi juda ham nochor yashab utganlar. Ushanda Sarvari Olam Rasululloh (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) usha yarim kosa sutni bir necha Sahobalar bilan birgalikda baham kuradi. Rasululloh (pbuh) boshqa bir necha Sahobalarni ham taklif qilganini kurgan Sahoba (adashmasam Abu Hurayra r.a.) birinchi hayron buladi, yarim kosa sutga shuncha odam deb, lekin keyin aytadiki hamma ichib bulgandan sung Rasululloh ul kishiga kosani tutqazadi. Sahobani qorinlari tuyib yana kosada sut oshib qoladi. Mana shuni baraka deydi, yarim kosa sut bir necha Sahobani qornini tuygazdi......
Infolife, ushbu post uchun rahmat!

Gareeb
12-07-2005, 12:51 PM
infolife , nima uchun aynan Abu Hurayra deb atalishini bilasizmi?Buyam qiziq.

Madalio'g'li
12-07-2005, 02:07 PM
infolife , nima uchun aynan Abu Hurayra deb atalishini bilasizmi?Buyam qiziq.

Qardosh, aytavering iltimas.... O'zbekchasidan :) ham maza qilsin ahli dil.

infolife
12-08-2005, 03:35 AM
Cendel, nima siz inglizcha chunmeysizmi?:rolleyes: shuncha poydali postlarni chunmey qopsizda unda:?

Ha Gareeb bilaman. Abu-Hurayra asli "Mushukchaning otasi" yoki mushuk dusti degani. kitten man in english. Shu sahaba payg'ambarimiz saw uhshab rosa mushuklarni shaydosi bolgan ekan va yoshligidan doim mushuk b/n uynab yurgan kean. Shundan hamma kitten man-mushuk otasi-Abu-Hurayra deb chaqiribdi:) he-he,zura!

Qardosh, aytavering iltimas.... O'zbekchasidan :) ham maza qilsin ahli dil.

infolife
12-08-2005, 03:40 AM
shunga hich kim javob ham bermabdi:?
Firavn paytida Muso alayhissalom yillab davat qilsa ham hich kim unga ishonmagan ekan. Fir'avnning hotini shohona qasrda yashasa ham Allohga duo qilgan ekan "Meni bu dunyoda emas u dunyoda shunday qasrga quygin. Men sen junatgan payg'ambarga ishonaman" dip.
Muhammad saw ham hadislarida aytib utgan ekan keyinchalik dunyoda 4 great women bor deb. Sahabalar surabdi kimlar dep. Payg'ambarimiz aytibdi:
Khadija, Mariam the virgin, Fatimah and Asia.
Sahabalar u nomni eshitmagan ekan kim deb surashibdi. Shunda aytgan ekan "The beleiver wife of Firawn" deb.

Did u know that Frawn's wife Asia was among 4 women metioned by Muhammad SAW and in the Qur'an. 4 women Qur'an mentions:
Mariyam-prophet's mother
Asia- Firawn's wife
Hadeecha-prophet SAW's wife
Fatima- Prophet SAW's daughter.

U know why Firauns wife was among them???

Iqbol
12-08-2005, 10:50 AM
Hindiston fotihi Mahmud G'aznaviyning Muhammad ismli hizmatchisi bo'larkan. Har doim shu hizmatchisini ismini aytip chaqirar ekan.
Lekin bir kuni, shu hizmatchisini ismina aytmasdan yoniga chaqripti. Shunda hizmatchisi, qiziqip, shohim nimaga har doim ismim bilan chaqirasizda, hozir meni nomimni aytmasdan chaqirdingiz dep so'rapti.
Shunda Mahmud G'aznaviy: Men seni oldin chaqirganimda har doim tahoratim bo'lardi. Lekin hozir tahoratim sinip qolgandi, shuning uchun sening ismingni tahoratsiz aytgim kelmadi; degan ekan...

Madalio'g'li
12-08-2005, 02:53 PM
Cendel, nima siz inglizcha chunmeysizmi?:rolleyes: shuncha poydali postlarni chunmey qopsizda unda:?

Ha Gareeb bilaman. Abu-Hurayra asli "Mushukchaning otasi" yoki mushuk dusti degani. kitten man in english. Shu sahaba payg'ambarimiz saw uhshab rosa mushuklarni shaydosi bolgan ekan va yoshligidan doim mushuk b/n uynab yurgan kean. Shundan hamma kitten man-mushuk otasi-Abu-Hurayra deb chaqiribdi:) he-he,zura!


Ingilizcha bilmayman* shukur mana biroz O’zbekcha tushunayapman :) . Lekin O’zbekcham Ebu Hurayrani tushuntirmak uchun kifoya emas. Turkcha yazmamoq uchun ham chor-nochor Gareeb so’zlasin istadim…Uf, charcab qoldim….. Mushuk, ul muborakning (Alloh undan rozi bo’lsin) jubbasining etakiga o’tiribdi va u yerda uxlabdi. Ebu Hurayra ham mushukni uyg’antirmamak uchun -balki toq kiyimi- jubbasining ostini kesib olibdi…Mana Latofat, mehr-shafqat, mana riqqot……Bizni musulmon yaratgan Allohga hamd u sanolar bo’lsin.

Boqiy salom va muhabbat bilan…


* Turkchada bir gap bor:”Asılacaksan İngiliz sicimiyle asıl!” ( O'zbekchasi -Dorga barganda İngiliz bog’i bilan bor- kabi bir gap ehtimol…uzr...faqat ehtimol....) Shunday ingiliz bog’idan boshqacha narsa kaminaga kerak emas deb o’ylayman :)

Unutmay so'zlamoqchimanki O'zbekchani xarob qilganim uchun forum aholisidan uzr so'rayman.

Gareeb
12-08-2005, 03:06 PM
Ingilizcha bilmayman* shukur mana biroz O’zbekcha tushunayapman :) . Lekin O’zbekcham Ebu Hurayrani tushuntirmak uchun kifoya emas. Turkcha yazmamoq uchun ham chor-nochor Gareeb so’zlasin istadim…Uf, charcab qoldim….. Mushuk, ul muborakning (Alloh undan rozi bo’lsin) jubbasining etakiga o’tiribdi va u yerda uxlabdi. Ebu Hurayra ham mushukni uyg’antirmamak uchun -balki toq kiyimi- jubbasining ostini kesib olibdi…Mana La