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11-15-2005, 08:42 PM
AUDIO: (http://www.answering-christianity.com/vagina_wine.wav) Women's vaginas taste like "wine" (Song of Songs 7:1-4, 8-9)
The Good Book of Love: Sex in the Bible documentary film. (available here (http://store.aetv.com/html/search/index.jhtml?search=The+Good+Book+of+Love%3A+Sex+in +&x=9&y=10)) Listen to the narration (audio file). (http://www.answering-christianity.com/vagina_wine.wav) (91 seconds)

Interpretation Voice of:
Carole Fountaine
Professor of Biblical Studies
Andover-Newton Theological School


More elaborations and proofs are further down in the article

http://www.answering-christianity.com/why_pornful.htm

Why do I use "pornful" instead of "porn-full"?
http://www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_kissed_mary_magdalene.htm

Jesus lusted after Mary Magdalene
(According to the Gospel of Philip)

ÄÆÈÃÈÒ
11-15-2005, 08:49 PM
1- X-Rated Pornography in the Bible:


Some Jews and Christians claim that the praised graphical pornography in the Bible is actually a conversation between a husband and his wife. They know well that claiming otherwise would bring total shame to the gospel of porn, because of the (literally) x-rated and low-life graphical pornography. There is ample evidence that prove their claim to be bogus and desperate. Let us look at this example from the many below:

Song of Songs 8:1-3 "If only you were to me like a brother, who was nursed at my mother's breasts! Then, if I found you outside, I would kiss you, and no one would despise me. I would lead you and bring you to my mother's house-- she who has taught me. I would give you spiced wine to drink [i.e., her vagina's semen!], the nectar of my pomegranates. His left arm is under my head and his right arm embraces me."

She wished if he was her brother so that she wouldn't have to take him home in secret. Now if he was truly her husband, then what would prompt her to wish that he was her brother? Were husbands back then not allowed to live with their wives? If so, how did they then consummate and have children and raise generations and societies? Were they allowed to live with each others for a while?

The obvious answer, that only the ashamed people from the Jews and Christians would deny, is that the "lover" was NOT her husband, and she was not his wife.

Further more, according to "Sex in the Bible" documentary film, the two were "a maiden (virgin) and her lover" and not husband and wife. Listen to this for yourself. (http://www.answering-christianity.com/vagina_wine.wav)

"maiden" means virgin; an unmarried woman; a single girl, etc...

From http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=maiden%20 (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=maiden%20):

maid·en
n.


<LI type=a>An unmarried girl or woman.
A virgin.
A machine resembling the guillotine, used in Scotland in the 16th and 17th centuries to behead criminals.
Sports.

A racehorse that has never won a race.
A maiden over.
The bottom line is:


The graphical pornography in the gospel of porn (the bible) is quite devastating and unjustifiable. The book's followers have to literally resort to lying in order to minimize the moral damage and denigration that this corrupt book teaches and causes.

ÄÆÈÃÈÒ
11-15-2005, 08:54 PM
2- Women's breasts are important sexual objects:

The Bible in numerous places teaches us about women's breasts and talks about them at the same time it is talking about sexual fantasies and intercourse.

Comparing the sister's breasts to the size of the towers:

Let us look at the following verses:"We have a young sister, and her breasts are not yet grown. What shall we do for our sister for the day she is spoken for? (Song of Songs 8:8)" and later about the sister....."I am a wall, and my breasts are like towers. Thus I have become in his eyes like one bringing contentment. (Song of Songs 8:10)"

Let us look at Song of Songs 4:5 "Your two breasts are like two fawns, like twin fawns of a gazelle that browse among the lilies."

Let us look at Proverbs 5:19 "A loving doe, a graceful deer, may her breasts satisfy you always, may you ever be captivated by her love." Could it be meant to say "may her breasts sexually satisfy you"?

Let us look at Song of Songs 1:13 "My lover is to me a sachet of myrrh resting between my breasts."

Praising the bed that they had sex on: Let us look at Song of Songs 1:16 "How handsome you are, my lover! Oh, how charming! And our bed is verdant"

Having sex all night long: Let us look at Proverbs 7:18 "Come, let's drink (i.e., perhaps it includes drink and swallow semen) deep of love till morning; let's enjoy ourselves with love!"

Let us look at Song of Songs 1:2-4 "Let him kiss me with the kisses of his mouth-- for your love is more delightful than wine. Pleasing is the fragrance of your perfumes; your name is like perfume poured out. No wonder the maidens love you! Take me away with you--let us hurry! Let the king bring me into his chambers. We rejoice and delight in you; we will praise your love (i.e., semen) more than wine. How right they are to adore you!"


I don't think this would be appropriate for a kid under 18 to read. Also, I don't think it is appropriate to have such open sexuality in a divine book anyway.


His right arm sexually feeling her body: Let us look at Song of Songs 2:6 "His left arm is under my head, and his right arm embraces me."
Let us look at Song of Songs 3:4 "Scarcely had I passed them when I found the one my heart loves. I held him and would not let him go till I had brought him to my mother's house, to the room of the one who conceived me." So in other words, she was not married to him, and when she found him, she took him back to her bed room to have illegal sex with him? If she were married to him, she wouldn't take him to her "mother's house". She would take him to their house.

Let us look at Song of Songs 3:10 "Its posts he made of silver, its base of gold. Its seat was upholstered with purple, its interior lovingly inlaid by the daughters of Jerusalem." Why does the Bible teach young men to spend all of their time and effort to try to impress all of the girls in their town so they can possibly end in bed with them?

ÄÆÈÃÈÒ
11-15-2005, 09:06 PM
3- Fantasizing about a girl he calls his "sister". Her vagina tastes like wine for him. And they had sex all night long. After he satisfied her really good, she wished if he were her brother (her biological brother nursed by her "mother's breast" as she said) so she doesn't have to take him home secretly:

Note: Even though she may not be his biological sister, but calling her a "sister" in a pornographic and sick situation as shown in details below is not proper, and may suggest that the sick pervert would fantasize about his biological sister if he had one.

Let us look at Song of Songs 4:9 "You have stolen my heart, my sister, my bride; you have stolen my heart with one glance of your eyes, with one jewel of your necklace." Fantasizing about his sister? at least he shows in this verse that he would!.

Let us look at Song of Songs 4:10 "How delightful is your love, my sister, my bride! How much more pleasing is your love than wine, and the fragrance of your perfume than any spice!" Making love to his own sister? "pleasing is your love (making???) than wine"?

Let us look at Song of Songs 4:12 "You are a garden locked up, my sister, my bride; you are a spring enclosed, a sealed fountain."

Sleeping with his sister: Let us look at Song of Songs 5:4 "I slept but my heart was awake. Listen! My lover is knocking: 'Open to me, my sister, my darling, my dove, my flawless one. My head is drenched with dew, my hair with the dampness of the night.' I have taken off my robe (i.e., he showed his penis to her. Underwears didn't exist back then!) must I put it on again? I have washed my feet, must I soil them again? My lover thrust his hand through the latch-opening; my heart began to pound for him." What a disgusting way for someone to talk so pervertly about his sister like that!!.

Let us look at Song of Songs 5:8"O daughters of Jerusalem, I charge you-- if you find my lover, what will you tell him? Tell him I am faint with love." Teaching women to be sexually too open.

His sister's vagina tastes like "wine":
"How beautiful your sandaled feet, O prince's daughter! Your graceful legs are like jewels, the work of a craftsman's hands. Your navel is a rounded goblet that never lacks blended wine. Your waist is a mound of wheat encircled by lilies. Your breasts are like two fawns, twins of a gazelle. Your neck is like an ivory tower. Your eyes are the pools of Heshbon by the gate of Bath Rabbi.
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I said 'I will climb the palm tree; I will take hold of its fruit.' May your breasts be like the clusters of the vine, the fragrance of your breath like apples, and your mouth like the best wine. (The NIV Bible, Song of Songs 7:1-4, 8-9)"

According to the documentary film "Sex in the Bible" on A&E TV Station, the Hebrew translation to "Your naval" is referring to the woman's VAGINA. This was sent to me by my dear brother in Islam Mike who embraced Islam just recently; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him.

ÄÆÈÃÈÒ
11-15-2005, 09:25 PM
King David, the Begotten Son of GOD and X-Rated Pornography:

First King David is GOD's Begotten Son: "I (David) will declare the decree: the LORD had said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee. (The King James Version Bible, Psalm 2:7)" In this verse, we clearly see how GOD Almighty loved King David so much, that he chose him to be His begotten Son.

The importance of King David in the Bible and to Christians and Jews:

1- King David was called "God's begotten son" in psalm 2:7 as shown above.

2- Christians call Jesus "Son of David", not meaning a biological son, but rather a son in a respectful way. To respect Jesus, they call him "son of David" i.e. David is good and respectful. See Matthew 1:1, Matthew 9:27, Matthew 12:23, Matthew 15:22, Matthew 20:30-31, Matthew 22:42, and many other verses.

3- David's Star is the Jews' holy symbol just like the Cross is the Christians' holy symbol.

Knowing the above facts, let us examine King David and fornication in the Bible:


X-Rated Pornography from the "Begotten Son of GOD":
Please be advised that I am not claiming that GOD Almighty agreed with the pornography of King David in the Bible. In fact, I don't even believe that King David did any of this. I proved below that the Books that claim this about King David are corrupted and unreliable and full of man-made doubts and lies.

David watches a women bathe, likes what he sees, and "goes in unto her." Let us look at 2 Samuel 11:2-4 "One evening David got up from his bed and walked around on the roof of the palace. From the roof he saw a woman bathing. The woman was very beautiful, and David sent someone to find out about her. The man said, 'Isn't this Bathsheba, the daughter of Eliam and the wife of Uriah the Hittite?' Then David sent messengers to get her. She came to him, and he slept with her. (She had purified herself from her uncleanness.) Then she went back home." This Holy Figure in the Bible is a pervert!.

So what happened to "If a man commits adultery with another man's wife--with the wife of his neighbor--both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death. (From the NIV Bible, Leviticus 20:10)"????
The woman was not only another man's wife, but also the wife of his neighbor! Double deadly crimes had been committed by the King against GOD Almighty!

How come Leviticus 20:10 was compromised in the Bible and never applied to King David?! Didn't King David know about this law? Yet, the Jews use his star as their holy symbol; the David Star, and the Christians call Jesus his son; "Son of David".

It seems to me quite clearly that the Bible is nothing but a compromised corrupted Book as Jeremiah 8:8, 2 Samuel 11:2-4 and Leviticus 20:10 above suggest.

If the strong eats the weak in the Bible, then what moral and wisdom are we to learn from this book?
Further more....

GOD supposedly inspired King David's men to get some heat for King David by having a beautiful virgin minister unto him. Let us look at 1King1:1-4 "When King David was old and well advanced in years, he could not keep warm even when they put covers over him. So his servants said to him, 'Let us look for a young virgin to attend the king and take care of him. She can lie beside him so that our lord the king may keep warm.' Then they searched throughout Israel for a beautiful girl and found Abishag, a Shunammite, and brought her to the king. The girl was very beautiful; she took care of the king and waited on him, but the king had no intimate relations with her."

Is the Bible a porn-full man made book? or is it an inspired Divine Book from GOD Almighty? Did GOD Almighty inspire David's men to bring him a young virgin so he can sleep with her without marriage? What kind of morals are we teaching our kids here?

Let us look at Esther 2:2-4 "Then the king's personal attendants proposed, 'Let a search be made for beautiful young virgins for the king. Let the king appoint commissioners in every province of his realm to bring all these beautiful girls into the harem at the citadel of Susa. Let them be placed under the care of Hegai, the king's eunuch, who is in charge of the women; and let beauty treatments be given to them. Then let the girl who pleases the king be queen instead of Vashti.' This advice appealed to the king, and he followed it."

So what we call today illegal prostitution and sex according to the "laws of the Bible" is actually allowed in the Bible? Here we see that GOD Almighty in His Divine Book, the "Holy Bible", inspired the King and his men to bring young bosomed virgins to sleep with the King, and the best one of them would replace Vashti.

(Website author)
Assuming that the above lies in the Bible about King David are true, which I as a Muslim by the way don't believe that a Prophet from GOD Almighty would do these things, and Allah Almighty in the Noble Quran did talk about King David in the best way, but as to Jews and Christians, it is a must for them to believe in what's written in their corrupted and porn-full Bible. So my questions to them are:

For the Jews, after reading the above verses about King David, why do you use "King David's Star" as your holy symbol that represents Judaism?
For the Christians, why do you call Jesus "Son of David"?

Shogird
11-18-2005, 08:54 PM
AUDIO: (http://www.answering-christianity.com/vagina_wine.wav) Women's vaginas taste like "wine" (Song of Songs 7:1-4, 8-9)
The Good Book of Love: Sex in the Bible documentary film. (available here (http://store.aetv.com/html/search/index.jhtml?search=The+Good+Book+of+Love%3A+Sex+in +&x=9&y=10)) Listen to the narration (audio file). (http://www.answering-christianity.com/vagina_wine.wav) (91 seconds)

Interpretation Voice of:
Carole Fountaine
Professor of Biblical Studies
Andover-Newton Theological School


More elaborations and proofs are further down in the article

http://www.answering-christianity.com/why_pornful.htm

Why do I use "pornful" instead of "porn-full"?
http://www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_kissed_mary_magdalene.htm

Jesus lusted after Mary Magdalene
(According to the Gospel of Philip)

Djigit, odam bu siz yaratgan threadni o'qishga ham uyaladi. Qaerdan topdingiz bu narsalarni, QIP QIZIL YOLG"ONku. Sharmanda.

"Song of Songs" kitobi buyuk Sulaymon podsho tomondan yozilgan. Bu er va hotin orasida bo'lgan muhabbat haqidadir. Shu bilan birga bu Sulaymon sherida chuqur Ruhiy mano bo'r. Agar siz buni "PORN" desangiz nima uchun islom dinshunoslari bu Sulaymon asari deb qabul qilishadi va Muhammad P. haqida u yerda oldindan aytib o'tilgan deyiladi. Mana quyidagi narsalarni o'qing:

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In this passage Muslims claim that the Hebrew word machmad ("altogether lovely") can be translated "praise" or "Ahmad." Following is the text of the passage as translated in the Bible (NIV):
Song of Solomon 5:16: "His mouth is sweetness itself; he is altogether lovely. This is my lover, this my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem."Song of Solomon is a poetic love story between the Beloved and her Lover. It is a piece that explores the beauty of a marriage relationship between a king and his wife.
Muslims believe that the adjectival clause "altogether lovely" can be changed to a proper noun, "Muhammad." The text, they state, should then read, when translated into English:
"His mouth is sweetness itself; he is Muhammad. This is my lover, this my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem."This rendering, however, begs a number of difficult questions according to the context of the entire book.
Who are the daughters of Jerusalem? Did Muhammad ever court one of his many wives in Jerusalem?
If this is Muhammad, which of his wives is speaking? Was Muhammad ever married to a dark woman he wooed from Lebanon?
Did Muhammad ever claim kingship?What, then, is this prophecy saying? The stressed words in the text above are the English renderings of the Hebrew word, machmad. Strong's concordance defines machmad as: desire, desirable thing, a pleasant thing.

Shogird
11-18-2005, 09:21 PM
Carole Fountaine KIM? WHo is Carole Fountaine?

http://www.ants.edu/academics/faculty/images/fontaine.jpg

Djigit, Bu ayol Liberal va Feminist olimaku. Bular Muqaddas Kitob to'liq ishonishmaydi, balkim o'zlari bilagnicha liberal mulohoza yuritadi. Agar bilsangiz G'arbda g'irt imonsiz ham Din bo'yicha professor bo'la oladi.

Taylor Professor of Biblical Theology and History
B.A., Florida State University
M.A.R., Yale Divinity School
Ph.D., Duke University

An internationally recognized feminist scholar in biblical wisdom traditions, Carole Fontaine brings her expertise into the classroom with lively use of digital and art resources to make the Bible come alive. She has done extensive editorial work, and her new book is called Smooth Words: Women, Proverbs and Performance in Biblical Wisdom. She is an Artist-in-Residence and has appeared on television extensively on the A & E, History Channel and the Hallmark Network.
A human rights activist working on issues of violence against Muslim women in Southern Asia, she sits on the boards of interfaith NGOs (non-governmental organizations) and represents the UUA at international human rights events. She is also on the Editorial Boards of Women in Judaism and the Catholic Biblical Quarterly.
Fontaine is faculty director of the St. Lawrence Foundation Grant for UU Theological Education at Andover Newton. She joined the faculty in 1979.

Keyin bu ayol Unitarian Cherkovi bilan boghliq.
What is UNITARIAN UNIVERSALIST CHURCH? UNITARIAN CHERKOV NIMA?

Djigit, bu cherkov (Unitarian Universalist Church) Liberal Cherkovdir, bular faqat nomiga Xristian nomiga ega lekin Hudo Amrlaridan uzoq. Masalan ular buddist va har hil falsafiy yo'larni qabul qilishadi. Shu bilan birga ular Besoqolbozlikni (Homosexuality-Gays & Lesbians) normal deb hisoblaydi.
Misol: http://www.uua.org/obgltc/wcp/wc20uuanswr.pdf (http://www.uua.org/obgltc/wcp/wc20uuanswr.pdf).

Martingale
11-18-2005, 10:06 PM
another colorful thread:)

Pinkie
11-18-2005, 10:11 PM
another colorful thread:)
And you just made this thread more colorful:P

Ok, so now addressing Shogird and DJIGIT: can you both turn to Genesis 19 "The Origin of the Moabites and Ammonites" and tell me what's that??:shock:

ÄÆÈÃÈÒ
11-18-2005, 11:13 PM
Djigit, odam bu siz yaratgan threadni o'qishga ham uyaladi. Qaerdan topdingiz bu narsalarni, QIP QIZIL YOLG"ONku. Sharmanda.

"Song of Songs" kitobi buyuk Sulaymon podsho tomondan yozilgan. Bu er va hotin orasida bo'lgan muhabbat haqidadir. Shu bilan birga bu Sulaymon sherida chuqur Ruhiy mano bo'r. Agar siz buni "PORN" desangiz nima uchun islom dinshunoslari bu Sulaymon asari deb qabul qilishadi va Muhammad P. haqida u yerda oldindan aytib o'tilgan deyiladi. Mana quyidagi narsalarni o'qing:

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In this passage Muslims claim that the Hebrew word machmad ("altogether lovely") can be translated "praise" or "Ahmad." Following is the text of the passage as translated in the Bible (NIV):

Song of Solomon 5:16: "His mouth is sweetness itself; he is altogether lovely. This is my lover, this my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem."Song of Solomon is a poetic love story between the Beloved and her Lover. It is a piece that explores the beauty of a marriage relationship between a king and his wife.
Muslims believe that the adjectival clause "altogether lovely" can be changed to a proper noun, "Muhammad." The text, they state, should then read, when translated into English:

"His mouth is sweetness itself; he is Muhammad. This is my lover, this my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem."This rendering, however, begs a number of difficult questions according to the context of the entire book.

Who are the daughters of Jerusalem? Did Muhammad ever court one of his many wives in Jerusalem?
If this is Muhammad, which of his wives is speaking? Was Muhammad ever married to a dark woman he wooed from Lebanon?
Did Muhammad ever claim kingship?What, then, is this prophecy saying? The stressed words in the text above are the English renderings of the Hebrew word, machmad. Strong's concordance defines machmad as: desire, desirable thing, a pleasant thing.

No way that muslim umma accepts that as Muhammad sallohllohu alayi vasallam, moreover it says he is my lover???, tell me who told you this crap. Prophet Muhammed s.a.w. is mentioned in Bible as Ahmad and also Shogird you'd better answear to those posts in If Jesus was God thread questioning your core belief. I'm sure a wise man will get a lesson and ask for forgiveness from God for Blasphemy, not beating around the bush and discussing issues that have no connection to the core belief. You have been really challenged given enough proof from Bible itself in that thread, if still claiming your old Greco-Jewish "super-human" doctrine like Hercules, then no doubt you are Blasphemer!

Shogird
11-19-2005, 12:46 AM
No way that muslim umma accepts that as Muhammad sallohllohu alayi vasallam, moreover it says he is my lover???, tell me who told you this crap.

You could not believe that some Islamic scholars claim that Muhammad's name was mentioned in in your "X-Porn" Song of Songs. Here is the islamic link, check it out: http://www.convertstoislam.com/Articles/christian.html

"...Muhammad is mentioned by name in the Bible as well as his birthplace, the place where he received the beginning portions of the revelation and his relation to Abraham. Let’s begin with his name and where it can be found in the Bible. One of the most obvious places, among the many others, can be found in Songs of Songs (5:16). “His mouth is altogether sweet, yea, he is altogether lovely, and this is my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem.” From the original Hebrew manuscripts the word “Muhammadim” is translated as “altogether lovely.”

ÄÆÈÃÈÒ
11-20-2005, 11:42 PM
You could not believe that some Islamic scholars claim that Muhammad's name was mentioned in in your "X-Porn" Song of Songs. Here is the islamic link, check it out: http://www.convertstoislam.com/Articles/christian.html

"...Muhammad is mentioned by name in the Bible as well as his birthplace, the place where he received the beginning portions of the revelation and his relation to Abraham. Let’s begin with his name and where it can be found in the Bible. One of the most obvious places, among the many others, can be found in Songs of Songs (5:16). “His mouth is altogether sweet, yea, he is altogether lovely, and this is my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem.” From the original Hebrew manuscripts the word “Muhammadim” is translated as “altogether lovely.”


The coming of Muhammad to ...

Muhammad was born in Mecca...

Muhammad is mentioned by name in the Bible as well as his birthplace



If you would like to know more about the truth of this matter please feel free to email me at SupermanJihad@yahoo.com


Shogird, I hope you are not a a youngster or teenage boy, or one could judge by your assertions that you are some unserious guy. Please pay attention to what "scholar" you are reffering to, who doesn't have a name, just some bogus email and no name??? Moreover, not even once that "scholar" has mentioned ayat from Qur'an, looks like he is illiterate about Qur'an?:lol: Also NONE of muslim scholars, will dare to say Mohammad, not adding s.a.w. it is prohibited in Islam, even beginner in islam saysy Mohammad s.a.w. (sallollohu alayhi wasallam), let alone scholars!!!!!!!! But that "scholar" you are referring to is not actually a scholar, he is not even a muslim possibly, just because he knows nothing even elementary things in Islam, not a single verse from Qur'an???!!!

No wonder, it is a lie article written by christian liers. Shogird, don't be hypocrite. Kulguni ostida qolib ketvossiz Shogird.

Walter
11-21-2005, 06:10 AM
I'd prefer reading something good about Islam, not bad about Christianity. I know Islamists as wicked and cruel people. I only know them as terrorists. I know it's untrue. Tell me more good about this religion.

Shogird
11-21-2005, 11:14 PM
And you just made this thread more colorful:P

Ok, so now addressing Shogird and DJIGIT: can you both turn to Genesis 19 "The Origin of the Moabites and Ammonites" and tell me what's that??:shock:

Pinkie, I don't know why you are asking this question. I guess you want to point to that shameful event in the cave. I was perplexed myself when I read this story first time but later I understood that Lot's daughters understood that they would never get married and have children because their Dad wanted to stay away from people. He was the only male in cave. You know the rest of the story.:shock:
Well, Bible is clear about these kind of life events. You can also read about David. He was King and prophet. He was "man after God's own heart" but yet He sinned with Bathsheeba and killed Uriah. This shows that everyone is capable of sinning.

Here is the story from this link: http://www.keyway.ca/htm2002/lot.htm

Lot, from the Hebrew word pronounced lote, was the son of Haran, grandson of Terah, and nephew of Abraham (Genesis 11:27). He is one of the more controversial characters of Bible History.
When Lot's father Haran died in Ur of Chaldeans, Lot joined with Abraham in a series of family migrations. First, from Ur to Haran, where Terah died (Genesis 11:28-32). It was in Haran that The Lord (see Rock Of Ages) appeared to Abram (before He renamed him Abraham), and told him to go to the land of Canaan (Genesis 12:1-4). The stepping-stone movements continued from Bethel (Genesis 12:8), to the Negev (Genesis 12:9), to Egypt to escape a famine (Genesis 12:10), then back to the Negev (Genesis 13:1), and once again to Bethel (Genesis 13:3). See Bible Places.
It was in Bethel that the split between Abraham and Lot occurred in a dispute over grazing their flocks (Genesis 13:3-13). Given the opportunity to go either direction, Lot made a fateful choice - to the east, near the then-infamous city of Sodom (Genesis 13:10-13). It's destruction, and how Lot survived it, is covered in Remember Lot's Wife and The Destruction Of Sodom.
An incident just before the destruction of Sodom has caused many to look at Lot with revulsion - his offering of his two young daughters to the evil mob:
"Look, I have two daughters who have never slept with a man. Let me bring them out to you, and you can do what you like with them. But don't do anything to these men, for they have come under the protection of my roof." (Genesis 19:8)
Did Lot really mean it? Would he really have handed his two daughters over to the mob? Or, was it intended as some sort of a diversionary tactic, an offer that would not be accepted, because he knew that those men had no interest in women? That could be a possibility to consider, in view of the mob's response - they continued to ignore the two daughters, and decided to assault Lot along with the two men/angels. (Genesis 19:9)
After their escape from Sodom, Lot and his two daughters took refuge in a cave. It was there that another controversial chapter in Lot's life occurred, although the record states that he was an unknowing participant:

"Lot and his two daughters left Zoar and settled in the mountains, for he was afraid to stay in Zoar. He and his two daughters lived in a cave. One day the older daughter said to the younger, "Our father is old, and there is no man around here to lie with us, as is the custom all over the earth. Let's get our father to drink wine and then lie with him and preserve our family line through our father." That night they got their father to drink wine, and the older daughter went in and lay with him. He was not aware of it when she lay down or when she got up. The next day the older daughter said to the younger, "Last night I lay with my father. Let's get him to drink wine again tonight, and you go in and lie with him so we can preserve our family line through our father." So they got their father to drink wine that night also, and the younger daughter went and lay with him. Again he was not aware of it when she lay down or when she got up. So both of Lot's daughters became pregnant by their father. The older daughter had a son, and she named him Moab; he is the father of the Moabites of today. The younger daughter also had a son, and she named him Ben-Ammi; he is the father of the Ammonites of today." (Genesis 19:30-38)

Bonik
11-22-2005, 12:14 AM
To'g'risini aytsam Shogirdni ayol kishi deb o'yladim boshida... chunki nickini "Showgirl" deb o'qibman :)

JOUBERAR
07-06-2008, 04:42 PM
3- Fantasizing about a girl he calls his "sister". Her vagina tastes like wine for him. And they had sex all night long. After he satisfied her really good, she wished if he were her brother (her biological brother nursed by her "mother's breast" as she said) so she doesn't have to take him home secretly:

Note: Even though she may not be his biological sister, but calling her a "sister" in a pornographic and sick situation as shown in details below is not proper, and may suggest that the sick pervert would fantasize about his biological sister if he had one.

Let us look at Song of Songs 4:9 "You have stolen my heart, my sister, my bride; you have stolen my heart with one glance of your eyes, with one jewel of your necklace." Fantasizing about his sister? at least he shows in this verse that he would!.

Let us look at Song of Songs 4:10 "How delightful is your love, my sister, my bride! How much more pleasing is your love than wine, and the fragrance of your perfume than any spice!" Making love to his own sister? "pleasing is your love (making???) than wine"?

Let us look at Song of Songs 4:12 "You are a garden locked up, my sister, my bride; you are a spring enclosed, a sealed fountain."

Sleeping with his sister: Let us look at Song of Songs 5:4 "I slept but my heart was awake. Listen! My lover is knocking: 'Open to me, my sister, my darling, my dove, my flawless one. My head is drenched with dew, my hair with the dampness of the night.' I have taken off my robe (i.e., he showed his penis to her. Underwears didn't exist back then!) must I put it on again? I have washed my feet, must I soil them again? My lover thrust his hand through the latch-opening; my heart began to pound for him." What a disgusting way for someone to talk so pervertly about his sister like that!!.

Let us look at Song of Songs 5:8"O daughters of Jerusalem, I charge you-- if you find my lover, what will you tell him? Tell him I am faint with love." Teaching women to be sexually too open.

His sister's vagina tastes like "wine":
"How beautiful your sandaled feet, O prince's daughter! Your graceful legs are like jewels, the work of a craftsman's hands. Your navel is a rounded goblet that never lacks blended wine. Your waist is a mound of wheat encircled by lilies. Your breasts are like two fawns, twins of a gazelle. Your neck is like an ivory tower. Your eyes are the pools of Heshbon by the gate of Bath Rabbi.
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I said 'I will climb the palm tree; I will take hold of its fruit.' May your breasts be like the clusters of the vine, the fragrance of your breath like apples, and your mouth like the best wine. (The NIV Bible, Song of Songs 7:1-4, 8-9)"

According to the documentary film "Sex in the Bible" on A&E TV Station, the Hebrew translation to "Your naval" is referring to the woman's VAGINA. This was sent to me by my dear brother in Islam Mike who embraced Islam just recently; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him.

YOU HAVE GOT REAL PERVERTED MIND MAKING UP YOUR LIES ABOUT THE BIBLE IF SEX IS THE ONLY THING YOUR TWISTED BRAINS THEN YOU MUSN'T MAKE UP YOUR OWN SATANIC STORIES.BECAUSE IT DOESN'T STAND LIKE THIS IN THE BIBLE.DO NOT MAKE UP YOUT OWN ITERPRETATION ABOUT WHAT STANDS IN THE BIBLE.


Song of Solomon 4


1Behold, thou art fair, my love; behold, thou art fair; thou hast doves' eyes within thy locks: thy hair is as a flock of goats, that appear from mount Gilead.
2Thy teeth are like a flock of sheep that are even shorn, which came up from the washing; whereof every one bear twins, and none is barren among them.
3Thy lips are like a thread of scarlet, and thy speech is comely: thy temples are like a piece of a pomegranate within thy locks.
4Thy neck is like the tower of David builded for an armoury, whereon there hang a thousand bucklers, all shields of mighty men.
5Thy two breasts are like two young roes that are twins, which feed among the lilies.
6Until the day break, and the shadows flee away, I will get me to the mountain of myrrh, and to the hill of frankincense.
7Thou art all fair, my love; there is no spot in thee.
8Come with me from Lebanon, my spouse, with me from Lebanon: look from the top of Amana, from the top of Shenir and Hermon, from the lions' dens, from the mountains of the leopards.
9Thou hast ravished my heart, my sister, my spouse; thou hast ravished my heart with one of thine eyes, with one chain of thy neck.
10How fair is thy love, my sister, my spouse! how much better is thy love than wine! and the smell of thine ointments than all spices!
11Thy lips, O my spouse, drop as the honeycomb: honey and milk are under thy tongue; and the smell of thy garments is like the smell of Lebanon.
12A garden inclosed is my sister, my spouse; a spring shut up, a fountain sealed.
13Thy plants are an orchard of pomegranates, with pleasant fruits; camphire, with spikenard,
14Spikenard and saffron; calamus and cinnamon, with all trees of frankincense; myrrh and aloes, with all the chief spices: 15A fountain of gardens, a well of living waters, and streams from Lebanon. 16Awake, O north wind; and come, thou south; blow upon my garden, that the spices thereof may flow out. Let my beloved come into his garden, and eat his pleasant fruits.


Song of Solomon 5


1I am come into my garden, my sister, my spouse: I have gathered my myrrh with my spice; I have eaten my honeycomb with my honey; I have drunk my wine with my milk: eat, O friends; drink, yea, drink abundantly, O beloved.
2I sleep, but my heart waketh: it is the voice of my beloved that knocketh, saying, Open to me, my sister, my love, my dove, my undefiled: for my head is filled with dew, and my locks with the drops of the night.
3I have put off my coat; how shall I put it on? I have washed my feet; how shall I defile them?
4My beloved put in his hand by the hole of the door, and my bowels were moved for him.
5I rose up to open to my beloved; and my hands dropped with myrrh, and my fingers with sweet smelling myrrh, upon the handles of the lock.
6I opened to my beloved; but my beloved had withdrawn himself, and was gone: my soul failed when he spake: I sought him, but I could not find him; I called him, but he gave me no answer.
7The watchmen that went about the city found me, they smote me, they wounded me; the keepers of the walls took away my veil from me.
8I charge you, O daughters of Jerusalem, if ye find my beloved, that ye tell him, that I am sick of love.
9What is thy beloved more than another beloved, O thou fairest among women? what is thy beloved more than another beloved, that thou dost so charge us?
10My beloved is white and ruddy, the chiefest among ten thousand.
11His head is as the most fine gold, his locks are bushy, and black as a raven.
12His eyes are as the eyes of doves by the rivers of waters, washed with milk, and fitly set.
13His cheeks are as a bed of spices, as sweet flowers: his lips like lilies, dropping sweet smelling myrrh.
14His hands are as gold rings set with the beryl: his belly is as bright ivory overlaid with sapphires.
15His legs are as pillars of marble, set upon sockets of fine gold: his countenance is as Lebanon, excellent as the cedars. 16His mouth is most sweet: yea, he is altogether lovely. This is my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem.