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Delf
11-18-2005, 07:40 PM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/story/0,3605,1645418,00.html

Guardian is reporting on lab tests of genetically modified organisms that live six times longer than normal.

"A genetic experiment to unlock the secrets of the ageing process has created organisms that live six times their usual lifespan"
...
"We're not too far from being able to exploit this understanding to at least start thinking about drugs that can put humans in an anti-ageing mode."


Amasing...

Delf.

Bonik
11-19-2005, 01:12 AM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/story/0,3605,1645418,00.html

Guardian is reporting on lab tests of genetically modified organisms that live six times longer than normal.

"A genetic experiment to unlock the secrets of the ageing process has created organisms that live six times their usual lifespan"
...
"We're not too far from being able to exploit this understanding to at least start thinking about drugs that can put humans in an anti-ageing mode."


Amasing...

Delf.

One would hope that one of the hardliners from Rel Board would not see your post :) about new drug :)

Delf
11-20-2005, 08:04 PM
One would hope that one of the hardliners from Rel Board would not see your post :) about new drug :)

Ko'rsa shaytonlab qolishi hech gapmas :)


Delf.

Hamid
11-21-2005, 06:08 AM
One would hope that one of the hardliners from Rel Board would not see your post about new drug


Ko'rsa shaytonlab qolishi hech gapmas :)


Delf.
I think you should both appologise for your words, among all users not only Religious board users, as you are insulting people here.

About the drug, it is just an experiment, and single cell organisms can never be compared to a life mechanism of complex living creatures.
And say they even managed to get this kind of drug and lenghten the lives of people? What is next?
If you look around to the research going on across the capitalistic world, you see one tension, people spending a lot of money so they can escape from earth or live longer, why?
A lot of people in science world know that the end of life on earth will come, so they are looking for alternatives, to escape, to live longer, to mutate.
I was watching a documentary about the future wild world about 200 million years from now, they don't claim it is goign to be exactly the same, but say these are the trends, it has high possibilty to be so. Are we going to be interested in it, as they claim there will be no man left, people will extinct. Is it going to bother us? Why to spend vast amounts of money in something that will not even affect us.
It is the same with all these kind of research, which will not brign any use to the humankind.
And to the topic, let us see, what they will achieve, probably somebody in the world is proving them wrong right now, this is science, lots of things are based on theories. And why don't they let the organisms to their natural habitat and see if they survive long enough, as lab conditions are usually perfectly controlled.

P.S. and some members of rel board know a lot more in scientific research than you both do, so never try to be smart.

hh

Bonik
11-21-2005, 07:14 AM
I think you should both appologise for your words, among all users not only Religious board users, as you are insulting people here.


And I think you should learn English !

where in the whole World did you see insult in my post?

One would hope that one of the hardliners from Rel Board would not see your post about new drug


This is a simple one sentence in english language. Please refer to the word "hardliners"!!! By this I meant the ones who were against medical drugs in Rel Board.

Tama nekotorie byli protiv vaktsin. Esli oni protiv vaktsin pustx ne prinimayut tabletki toje kogda prostujayutsya!!! OK-?

Vozxmem k primeru Vaktsinu protiv tuberkuleza. Nu chem ona ploha?
Nu i ne pyut pustx analxgin togda toje... :lol:

PainKiller
11-21-2005, 06:51 PM
It would've been amazing. That means, that in someday, people will be able to see their not grand-grand children like now, but grand-grand-grand...-children. Isn't it amazing? Life experience, emotions, memories all those play a great role in developing human brain, Can U imagine how intelligent will people be if they they get the chance to experience 6 time more events than they do now? Jesus, this is amazing. Humans will get so much more advanced. Jesus...I really hope they will be able to finish the researches before those assholes from Conservative Party or some sort of ethics group will try to stop them.

Hamid
11-22-2005, 01:55 AM
I don't remember where, but i saw a very funny caricature today: two 80-90 year old men with walking stick, very wrinkled face, speaking to each other, one is asking: what does your dad do for living?

hh

P.S. Bonik my appologies, I did not read the hardliners part, but still it is everybody's right to decide and openly announce if they want vaccines or not.

Tokugawa
11-23-2005, 11:56 AM
Is there any research on changes of life expectancy in different periods throughout the history of humankind? What was it in 15th, 16th, 17th ... 20th centuries? I think it should be in increasing trend...

Tokugawa
11-23-2005, 12:03 PM
Ko'rsa shaytonlab qolishi hech gapmas :)


Delf.

"Using drugs" degan qismiga teginmayman, lekin "uzoq yashash"ga kelsak, No'h (Noah) Payg'ambarimiz 900 yil umr ko'rganlar deb o'rganganman. Bu insoniyat uchun uning umri naqadar uzoq bo'lishi mumkinligini ko'rsatadigan yorqin misol. Bunga "using drugs" bilan erishadimi yoki ilmdagi yangi yutuqlar bilan erishadimi - imkoni bor. :cool:

PS: hatom bo'lsa tuzatib qo'yinglar iltimos. :D

chicagoan
11-23-2005, 01:55 PM
"Using drugs" degan qismiga teginmayman, lekin "uzoq yashash"ga kelsak, No'h (Noah) Payg'ambarimiz 900 yil umr ko'rganlar deb o'rganganman. Bu insoniyat uchun uning umri naqadar uzoq bo'lishi mumkinligini ko'rsatadigan yorqin misol. Bunga "using drugs" bilan erishadimi yoki ilmdagi yangi yutuqlar bilan erishadimi - imkoni bor. :cool:

PS: hatom bo'lsa tuzatib qo'yinglar iltimos. :D



Qiziqarli masala. Butun dunyoda hozir insonni hayotini uzaytirishgina asosiy maqsad bolib qolgan. Etibor bering, sermazmun qilish emas, uzunroq qilish.

Albatta, bizdan avvalgilar ancha Uzunroq yashaganini eshitganmiz. Ibn Sino "agar chang bo'lmaganida inson 1000 yil yashay olardi" kabi so'zni aytgan. Biz nafas olayotgan changni asosiy qismi, inson terisining qoldiqlaridan iborat. Etiboringiz uchun, insoniyatning tarihida barcha yashagan insonlarning 4/10 qismi atrofidagi qismi hozir tirik - bu juda ko'p chang degani.

Ovrupa va Amriqolarda isitish issiq havo purkash bilan amalga oshiriladi ko'p joylarda, bu esa havoni doimiy changitib turadi.

Iloji bolsa, oddiy suvli isitgichlar afzalroq, va changdan inson o'zini saqlashi kerak.

Tamakida 4000 atrofida zararli elementlar bor - eng kop rak tamakidan kelib chiqadi.

Hayotni uzaytirishni yoli ko'p. Genlar bilan o'ynashga hojat yo'q.

:lol: mr

Queen
11-23-2005, 06:29 PM
It would've been amazing. That means, that in someday, people will be able to see their not grand-grand children like now, but grand-grand-grand...-children. Isn't it amazing? Life experience, emotions, memories all those play a great role in developing human brain, Can U imagine how intelligent will people be if they they get the chance to experience 6 time more events than they do now? Jesus, this is amazing. Humans will get so much more advanced. Jesus...I really hope they will be able to finish the researches before those assholes from Conservative Party or some sort of ethics group will try to stop them.
I think no matter how long life would be, it's going to be the same. Life expectancy was very short before, because of all these infectious diseases, no vaccines. Now, we live about two times more. What happened? Are we happier? still lots of problems. Still we die in the end. yeah probably people will become more intillegent relative to the past as they have more time to learn, but still there are going to be smarter ones, and it ends up just like life the current world. I am happy to live to my hundredth.

PainKiller
11-23-2005, 06:40 PM
I think no matter how long life would be, it's going to be the same.
LOL.
Life expectancy was very short before, because of all these infectious diseases, no vaccines. Now, we live about two times more. What happened? Are we happier?
lol lol lol.
where did u see the connection between lenght of life and happiness? still lots of problems.
Accept my deep condolences.
Still we die in the end
Yes. What is the point of giving birth to a Baby, if they all die at the end?
yeah probably people will become more intillegent relative to the past as they have more time to learn, but still there are going to be smarter ones
looool
and it ends up just like life the current world.
Allah Akbar!!

I am happy to live to my hundredth.
well, if you've looked at the average death age, you would've been more careful :lol:

Delf
11-23-2005, 06:48 PM
Science is advancing at a spectacular speed and it's speed is accelerating.
The chances are, if you live another 50 years you have good chances to live indefinitely. Yes, I think within 50 years science will advance enough to make people live more than 200-300 years. And by those 200-300 years there will already by research to reverse aging.

Actually, science is accelerating at an exponential speed, so there are good chances that Singularity will occur withing 30-40 years. And everuthing beyond that time frame is impossible to describe.
See http://www.forum.uz/showpost.php?p=290510&postcount=27


Sincerely,
Delf.
P.S. I beleive in 50 years machine intelligence will make human intelligence to look like that of ameuba's. Machines will be infinitely more intelligent than humans. Read Ray Kurzweil:http://www.kurzweilai.net/meme/frame.html?m=1

PainKiller
11-23-2005, 06:57 PM
Я возможно и оптимист, но я ожидаю от науки очень многого через 100 или каких-то 200 лет.
Надеюсь, пересадка сердца уже не будет столь сложной по своей сути процедурой. Надеюсь, найдут вакцину от Рака, или хотя-бы определят главные составляющие которые имеют роль в возникновение рака. Найдут вакцину от СПИДа. Органы не будут отрвергатся телом реципиента))
Старение можно будет приостановить. Плодов с нарушениями можно будет лечить пока они ещё находятся в утробе матери. Эх, как жаль что я этого всего не увижу)

Queen
11-23-2005, 07:04 PM
LOL.

lol lol lol.
where did u see the connection between lenght of life and happiness?
Accept my deep condolences.

Yes. What is the point of giving birth to a Baby, if they all die at the end?

looool

Allah Akbar!!
well, if you've looked at the average death age, you would've been more careful :lol:
what was so funny? u seem to be very happy of life. Good for you, laughing a lot endures life. u think anybody who wrote against your opinion is funny? u can't argue on some topic.
I did not say there is no meaning of living or to be born on this world, as we all die in the end. I said, enduring life is not going to make changes. Longer life may seem different relative to shorter, but as a whole it would be same. I don't have to look at the average of death age. It's obvious that ppl died much earlier before because of many diseases and other natural disasters than now. U just don't wanna agree on this basic thing.

PainKiller
11-23-2005, 07:11 PM
what was so funny? u seem to be very happy of life. Good for you, laughing a lot endures life. u think anybody who wrote against your opinion is funny? u can't argue on some topic.
.
Honey, Smile, Smile.
U are all about smiling