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Prince

11-15-2005, 09:41 PM

Ҳижоб ёпинишга расмий таъқиқдан илгари ҳам норасмий таъқиқ мавжуд эди. Мактабда биринчи бўлиб ошкора ҳижоб ёпинишга журъат қилган 16 ёшли Дилноза Муҳсинзода кўп ўтмай шу ҳаракати боис ўқишдан четлатилган биринчи ўқувчига айланди.

Дилноза ҳижобини ташлашдан кўра мактабга бормай қўйишни афзал кўради...

Ўқитувчиларнинг ҳижобдан чиқиш ҳақидаги ундовларига қарамасдан, намунали ўқувчи ва аълочи Дилноза мактабни ташлаб чиқишни афзал билди.

"Қуръонга кўра аёл киши ҳижоб ёпиниши керак. Бу менинг ҳам бурчим. Мени мактабдан ҳайдашса ҳам майлига. Мен ўзимнинг диний эътиқодим боис шу каби азобга гирифтор эканлигимни яхши тушунаман",-деб ҳикоя қилади Дилноза.

Бу қиз Тожикистон шимолидаги Хўжанд шаҳрида оддий мактабда ўқир эди.

Ўтган йили ҳижоб ёпинганлари учун Дилноза билан бирга яна бир неча қиз дарслардан четлатилган. Мактаб директори Муҳаббат Бобожонова ушбу қарорини тўғри деб билади.

"Биз демократик, дунёвий жамиятда яшаяпмиз. Мен ўз раҳбарларимга бўйсунишга ўрганганман. Муайян мактаб либоси деган гаплар бор, аммо қоидаларда ўқувчилар ҳижоб ёпиниб юрсин дейилмаган",-дейди мактаб директори.

Link (http://www.bbc.co.uk/uzbek/news/story/2005/11/051110_tajikhijab.shtml)

uzbeque

11-15-2005, 11:27 PM

Assalamu Alaikum.

Bu singlimizga havas qilsa arziydi. Allohning buyurganini boshqa buyruqlardan ustun qo'ygani uchun unga Allohning rahmatlari bo'sin. Bizning qizlarimiz ham shunaqa bolishlarini nasib qisin.

Hijob - Hristianlarning cherkovda kiyadigan kiymidan farqli bo'lib, diniy libos emas, bu doimiy libos, ya'ni, musilmon inson doimiy kiyadigan kiymi. buni ta'qiqlash dinga ochiq oydin qarshilik qilishdir.

Bu ****** ni etishicha hamma qizlayam chin dildan o'ramas emish... bu gap hozirgi kundagi ba'zi yurtdoshlarimizning bema'no gaplariga oxshab ketadi. huddi ula odamni ichini biladigandek.

Alloh to'g'ri yo'ldagi bandalariga sabr bersin. Jamiyatimizga hayo digan hislarni qaytarishimizni Alloh nasib qisin. Zolimlarga jazosini berishini chin dildan Allohdan so'riymiz.

Assalamu Alaikum

Aus

11-16-2005, 12:43 AM

Prince

11-16-2005, 01:04 AM

Aus

11-16-2005, 01:10 AM

Aus , ugu...
Unaqalarni uyda xam korganman , Uzbekistanda bunday muammolarga duch kelganlar kop.... 1-2 tasiga yordam xam qilmoqchi boganimda bitta kishi maslahat bergandi "Bek , ehtiyot bol , uzini xam tortib ketmasin bu mehribonchiliging" degandi......
Bandamizde baribir , kuchsiz bir bandamiz.. qorqoq bandamiz , mol mulkim , ota onam deb , xaqiqatti korib turib kozimizani yumushga majburmiz....., May Allah forgive us ...
Peace ,

aga Princ ......
turi gaplarin .....eslasam ushandi voqealani he mayli ...hammasi yahshi mana endi
lekin bilasanmi ....nohaqlikni kura turib.....indamaslik...bu odamni yomon qiynaydi
Ha kupni kurganla doim maslahat beradi...lekin ulani gapida ham jon bor
mayli hayrlisi bo'lsin...

p.s suyunchini katga junati birinchi bulish uchun

infolife

11-18-2005, 06:21 AM

Central Asiada hokimiyat odamlari jinni bo'p qoganku bilmasmidila:lol: :rolleyes: O'zlaricah muslim countries,no rasmiymas aholisini ko'pi muslim lek odammi tepa sochi tikka bo'latta shunaqa jinnicha qarorlarini eshitib Uzbda hoz oq duppi kiyib maktab-institutga borish ban qilinibdi.
Eh o'rgildim, aholisi ko'p muslims bo'sa ham dinni practise qigani westchalik sharoit qip bermagan CA leaders:x
Save me from HellFire............:?

Ҳижоб ёпинишга расмий таъқиқдан илгари ҳам норасмий таъқиқ мавжуд эди. Мактабда биринчи бўлиб ошкора ҳижоб ёпинишга журъат қилган 16 ёшли Дилноза Муҳсинзода кўп ўтмай шу ҳаракати боис ўқишдан четлатилган биринчи ўқувчига айланди.

Дилноза ҳижобини ташлашдан кўра мактабга бормай қўйишни афзал кўради...

Ўқитувчиларнинг ҳижобдан чиқиш ҳақидаги ундовларига қарамасдан, намунали ўқувчи ва аълочи Дилноза мактабни ташлаб чиқишни афзал билди.

"Қуръонга кўра аёл киши ҳижоб ёпиниши керак. Бу менинг ҳам бурчим. Мени мактабдан ҳайдашса ҳам майлига. Мен ўзимнинг диний эътиқодим боис шу каби азобга гирифтор эканлигимни яхши тушунаман",-деб ҳикоя қилади Дилноза.

Бу қиз Тожикистон шимолидаги Хўжанд шаҳрида оддий мактабда ўқир эди.

Ўтган йили ҳижоб ёпинганлари учун Дилноза билан бирга яна бир неча қиз дарслардан четлатилган. Мактаб директори Муҳаббат Бобожонова ушбу қарорини тўғри деб билади.

"Биз демократик, дунёвий жамиятда яшаяпмиз. Мен ўз раҳбарларимга бўйсунишга ўрганганман. Муайян мактаб либоси деган гаплар бор, аммо қоидаларда ўқувчилар ҳижоб ёпиниб юрсин дейилмаган",-дейди мактаб директори.

Link (http://www.bbc.co.uk/uzbek/news/story/2005/11/051110_tajikhijab.shtml)

Gareeb

11-22-2005, 07:54 AM

HIJAB: Fabric, Fad or Faith?

“Yeah, I just got on the bus and I’m on my way home. Okay, Mum, Wa’alaikum Assalam.”

I slip my cell into my bag. A girl in a yellow tank top and dark blue cut-offs plops into the seat beside me.

“Ugh, I hate taking the bus, especially in this heat,” she says.

I nod and smile.

She raises her eyebrows at my full-length dress and the cloth wrapped around my head. “Aren’t you hot in that?” she asks.

I contemplate my answer. The girl shoots another question. “Why do you wear that thing on your head anyway?”

I fiddle with the clasp on my bag. I wonder what I should say. Why do I wear Hijab?

Why the Hood?

It’s tough to explain, isn’t it? Hijab relates to the basic faith that there is only one God worthy of worship. As Muslim women we want to submit to God and obey all His commands. Since Hijab is a clear commandment of God (see Quran 24:31), we choose to do it to please Him. If we wear Hijab for any other reason, we may fulfill an obligation without gaining the reward for it.

Aisha (The wife of Prophet Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon him) said, “May Allah have mercy on the immigrant women (from Makkah). When Allah revealed ‘that they should draw their veils over their juyubihinna*,’ they tore their wrappers and covered their heads and faces with them.” [Bukhari]

The female companions of the Prophet gave up the traditions and norms of their society and covered up immediately to respond to Allah, before they knew the proper method.

Only a Head Covering?

“And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what (must ordinarily) appear thereof; that they should draw their veils over their Juyubihinna* and not display their beauty except to…” [Quran 24:31]

The word *Juyubihinna, according to most scholars, refers to the head, ears, neck and chest. To fulfil the minimum requirements of Hijab, a Muslim woman covers her entire body, except her face and hands. Once Asma, daughter of Abu Bakr, entered upon the Prophet wearing thin clothes. The Prophet turned his attention from her. He said, “O Asma, when a woman reaches the age of menstruation, it does not suit her that she displays her parts of body except this and this,” and he pointed to his face and hands. [Abu Dawud].

Proper Hijab means loose and opaque clothes. Clothes should not be alluring or similar to the clothing of men. What about guys? Islam outlines a modest dress code for men and women. The requirements are different based on the obvious physiological and psychological differences between the two genders.

Hijab does not apply only to clothes. It is a state of mind, behaviour, and lifestyle. Hijab celebrates a desirable quality called Haya (modesty), a deep concern for preserving one’s dignity. Haya is a natural feeling that brings us pain at the very idea of committing a wrong. The Prophet said: "Every religion has a distinct call. For Islam it is Haya (modesty)." [Ibn Majah].

What’s in it for Me? Five Advantages of Hijab

I can’t be messed with! Hijab protects me – Hijab identifies a Muslim woman as a person of high moral standards to reduce her chances of being harassed.
“O Prophet! Tell your wives and daughters and the believing women, that they should cast their outer garments over their persons: that is most convenient, that they should be known (as such) and not molested.” [Quran 33:59]

As Dr. Katherine Bullock (a Canadian convert and community activist) observes, “The point to covering is not that sexual attraction is bad, only that it should be expressed between a husband and wife inside the privacy of the home. A public space free of sexual tensions is seen as a more peaceful place for human beings, men and women, to interact, do business, and build a healthy civilization.”

I am liberated from slavery to ‘physical perfection’ – Society makes women desire to become ‘perfect objects’. The multitudes of alluring fashion magazines and cosmetic surgeries show women’s enslavement to beauty. The entertainment industry pressures teens to believe that for clothes, less is better. When we wear Hijab, we vow to liberate ourselves from such desires and serve only God.

I don’t let others judge me by my hair and curves! – In schools and professional environments, women are often judged by their looks or bodies—characteristics they neither chose nor created. Hijab forces society to judge women for their value as human beings, with intellect, principles, and feelings. A woman in Hijab sends a message, “Deal with my brain, not my body!”

I feel empowered and confident – In contrast to today’s teenage culture, where anorexia and suicide are on the rise, as women attempt to reach an unattainable ideal of beauty, Hijab frees a woman from the pressure to ‘fit in’. She does not have to worry about wearing the right kind of jeans or the right shade of eyeshadow. She can feel secure about her appearance because she cares to please only Allah.

I feel the bond of unity – Hijab identifies us as Muslims and encourages other Muslim sisters to greet us with the salutation of peace, “Assalamu Alaikum”. Hijab draws others to us and immerses us in good company.

Gareeb

11-22-2005, 07:55 AM

Heard These Before? Three Misconceptions About Hijab
Hijab is a symbol of ‘male dominance’
If you think Hijab is an act of submission, you are right! It is a way to submit to God. Like any other act of worship, the rewards of Hijab come only when it is done for Allah alone.

Hijab is a ‘cultural thing’
From remote villages to cosmopolitan mega cities, women all across the world, from every ethnic background, wear Hijab. Do all of these women cling to old cultural practices? Hijab, the internal and external aspects, take understanding, training and determination. Since the purpose of Hijab is to please Allah, doing it for tradition is wrong.

Hijab is a ‘challenge to the political system’
While Hijab may have political implications, as evident in the banning of Hijab in certain countries, Muslim women who choose to practice Hijab are not doing it to challenge the political system. Islam encourages men and women to observe modesty in private and public life. Hijab is an individual’s act of faith and religious expression.
Are you Ready? Six Obstacles to Overcome

Thinking about wearing Hijab? Here are some tips to help you overcome obstacles that may get in your way:

Yourself –Not sure if you’re ready? Remember that Iman (faith in Allah) includes submitting to Allah’s will. Research, understand the reasons and talk to girls who have gone through it. Ask Allah to help you put your beliefs into action. Prophet Muhammad related that Allah said, “if [My servant] draws near to Me a hand’s span, I draw near to him an arm’s length; if he draws near to Me an arm’s length, I draw near to him a fathom’s length; and if he comes to Me walking, I go to him running.” (Bukhari and Muslim)

Your Friends – Worried about how your buddies will take it? Your friends should accept your decision and be proud of your courage. Give them time and be patient. Be conscious of Allah, not the girls or guys.

Your Parents – It’s difficult to do things when the people closest to you oppose it. As Muslims, it’s our duty to please our parents, unless their wishes go against the command of Allah. As much as your parents do for you, their love and mercy could never compare to that of your Creator. Ease your parents into your decision and pray that it becomes easy for them to understand.

At School –It takes courage to be different. You are likely to hear, “what is that thing on your head?” or “who made you do it?” Questions aren’t bad. Know your reasons and explain why you chose to wear Hijab.

At Work – The United Nations states that, “Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion” (Universal Declaration of Human Rights, Article 18). Most countries in the world abide by this declaration and have their own laws that protect an individual’s freedom of religious practice at work.

At the Gym – What about swimming or basketball for sporty sisters? Obeying Allah and wearing Hijab does not limit your physical activity. Organize sisters-only sports events. This encourages true sports-womanship. When you play, it’s about the love of the game, not the glory (or the guys watching!).
For Further Reading & Research:
Woman’s Dress in Islam by Jamal Badawi
The Lawful and Prohibited in Islam by Yusuf Al-Qaradawi
Rethinking Muslim Women and the Veil by Katherine Bullock
http://www.youngmuslims.ca/publications/hijab.asp

Abu Hurayra

11-23-2005, 07:04 AM

Women in the Qur'ân and Women in the Bible
By Sultana Yusufali (a 17-year-old high school student)
Published in Toronto Star Young People’s Press

Qur'ân: "And the believers, men and women, are protecting friends one of another; they enjoin the right and forbid the wrong, and they establish worship and they pay the poor-due, and they obey Allâh and His messenger. As for these, Allâh will have mercy on them. Lo! Allâh is mighty, wise." (9):71
Qur'ân: "And they (women) have rights similar to those of men over them in a just manner" (2):228
Qur'ân: "Whoso does an ill deed, he will be repaid the like thereof, while whoso does right, whether male or female, and is a believer, (all) such will enter the garden, where they will be nourished without stint." (40):40.
Bible: "Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression." (1 Timothy 2:11-14)
Bible says: "Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church." (1 Corinthians 14:34)
Bible says: "Wives, be subject to your own husbands, as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, as christ also is the head of the church, he himself being the savior of the body. But as the church is subject to christ, so also the wives ought to be to their husbands in everything." (Ephesians 5:22-24)
Qur'ân: "And of His signs is this: he created for you spouses from yourselves that you might find tranquillity in them, and he ordained between you love and mercy. Lo, herein indeed are signs for folk who reflect." (30):21
The Prophet Muhammad sallallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam said: "The best believers are the best in conduct, and the best of you are those who are best to their wives." (Tirmidhi) narrated by Abû Hurayrah

Bible: "A bad wife brings humiliation, downcast looks, and a wounded heart. Slack of hand and weak of knee is the man whose wife fails to make him happy. Woman is the origin of sin, and it is through her that we all die. Do not leave a leaky cistern to drip or allow a bad wife to say what she likes. If she does not accept your control, divorce her and send her away" (Ecclesiasticus 25:25).
Qur'ân: "...But consort with them in kindness, for if you hate them it may happen that you hate a thing wherein Allâh has placed much good." (4):19
Bible: If a father / husband does not endorse his daughter's / wife's vows, all pledges made by her become null and void, in other words a woman cannot make any contract on her own without the permission of a husband or father: "but if her father forbids her when he hears about it, none of her vows or the pledges by which she obligated herself will stand ....Her husband may confirm or nullify any vow she makes or any sworn pledge to deny herself" (Numbers. 30:2-15)
In Islam a woman's wealth is her own and her husband has no rights over it:
Qur'ân: "...and covet not the thing in which Allâh has made some of you excel others. Unto men a fortune from that which they have earned, and unto women a fortune from that which they have earned. (Envy not one another) but ask Allâh of his bounty. Verily! Allâh is knower of all things." (4):32.
Bible says: "A virgin who is raped must marry her rapist (if they are "found")- (Deut 22:28-29) "if a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, he shall pay the girl's father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the girl, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives" Deuteronomy 22:28-30
Qur'ân: "And those who launch a charge against chaste women, and produce not four witnesses (to support their allegations) - flog them with eighty stripes; and reject their evidence ever after: for such men are wicked transgressors" (24:4)
The Bible blames Eve for the original sin: (genesis 3:12-16) "and the man (Adam) said, the woman (Eve) whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat. And the Lord god said unto the woman, what is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, the serpent beguiled me, and I did eat..unto the woman He said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee."
In the Qur'ân, both Adam and Eve share the blame for eating from the tree. This can be seen in the Qur'ân in such verses al-Baqarah (2):36, al-A'raf (7):22-24. They were also both forgiven by God Almighty for this sin.
Qur'ân: "O Adam dwell with your wife in the garden and enjoy as you wish but approach not this tree or you run into harm and transgression. Then satan whispered to them in order to reveal to them their shame that was hidden from them and he said: 'your Lord only forbade you this tree lest you become angels or such beings as live forever.' And he swore to them both that he was their sincere adviser. So by deceit he brought them to their fall: when they tasted the tree their shame became manifest to them and they began to sew together the leaves of the garden over their bodies. And their Lord called unto them: 'did I not forbid you that tree and tell you that satan was your avowed enemy?' They said: 'our Lord we have wronged our own souls and if You forgive us not and bestow not upon us Your mercy, we shall certainly be lost' " (7:19-23).
The Bible says that giving birth to a female child makes a woman more "unclean" than if she had a male child. Leviticus 12:2-5 "Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, if a woman have conceived seed, and born a male child: then she shall be unclean seven days; according to the days of the separation for her infirmity shall she be unclean. And in the eighth day the flesh of his foreskin shall be circumcised. And she shall then continue in the blood of her purifying thirty three days; she shall touch no hallowed thing, nor come into the sanctuary, until the days of her purifying be fulfilled. But if she bear a female child, then she shall be unclean two weeks, as in her separation: and she shall continue in the blood of her purifying sixty six days."
Ecclesiastics 7:26-28 "and I find more bitter than death the woman who is a snare, whose heart is a trap and whose hands are chains. The man who pleases God will escape her, but the sinner she will ensnare....While I was still searching but not finding, I found one upright man among a thousand but not one upright woman among them all."
Qur'ân: "And their Lord has heard them (and he says): Verily! I suffer not the work of any worker, male or female, to be lost. You proceed one from another." (3):195.
Qur'ân: "And whoso does good works, whether of male or female, and he (or she) is a believer, such will enter paradise and they will not be wronged the dint in a date stone." The Noble Qur'ân, an-Nisâ (4):124.
Qur'ân: "Whosoever does right, whether male or female, and is a believer, him verily we shall quicken with good life, and We shall pay them a recompense in proportion to the best of what they used to do." (16):97.
"A man asked the prophet Muhammad sallallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam: 'whom should I honor most?' The prophet replied: 'Your mother'. 'And who comes next?' Asked the man. The prophet replied: 'Your mother'. 'And who comes next?' Asked the man. The prophet replied: 'Your mother'. 'And who comes next?' Asked the man. The prophet replied: 'Your father' " (Bukhari and Muslim).

Abu Hurayra

11-23-2005, 07:05 AM

Bible says that a woman must cover her head as a sign of man's authority over her:
"And every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonours her head - it is just as though her head were shaved. If a woman does not cover her head, she should have her hair cut off; and if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut off or shaved off, she should cover her head. A man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God; but the woman is the glory of man. For man did not come from woman, but woman from man; neither was man created for woman, but woman for man. For this reason, and because of the angels, the woman ought to have a sign of authority on her head" (1 Corinthians 11:3-10).
Bible: 1 corinthians 11:5-10: "But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head."
Bible: 1 corinthians 11:13: "Judge in yourselves: is it comely that a woman pray unto god (with her head) uncovered?"
The Qur'ân teaches that a woman must be covered out of modesty and to protect her from harassment:
Qur'ân: "Say to the believing men that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty......And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what ordinarily appear thereof; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms...." (24:30,31).
Qur'ân "O prophet, tell your wives and daughters and the believing women that they should cast their outer garments over their bodies (when abroad) so that they should be known and not molested" (33:59).
According to the Bible (Numbers 27:1-11), widows and sisters don't inherit at all. Daughters can inherit only if their deceased father had no sons.
Qur'ân: "Unto the men (of a family) belongs a share of that which parents and near kindred leave, and unto the women a share of that which parents and near kindred leave, whether it be little or much, a legal share." (4):77.
Bible: Leviticus 15:19-30 "And if a woman have an issue (her period/menses), [and] her issue in her flesh be blood, she shall be put apart seven days: and whosoever toucheth her shall be unclean until the even. And every thing that she lieth upon in her separation shall be unclean: every thing also that she sitteth upon shall be unclean. And whosoever toucheth her bed shall wash his clothes, and bathe [himself] in water, and be unclean until the even. And whosoever toucheth any thing that she sat upon shall wash his clothes, and bathe [himself] in water, and be unclean until the even. And if it [be] on [her] bed, or on any thing whereon she sitteth, when he toucheth it, he shall be unclean until the even.....(It goes on and on)."

sources: are given inside of text...

Abu Hurayra

11-24-2005, 03:03 AM

Dear People!(Christians, Muslims and other parties!)

Recently I received some messeges Regarding this thread. Do not Missunderstand me. Here I did not want to hurt somebodys feelings and beliefs neither want to make a Debate accusing one another,bringing multiple links.
I checked many times before opening this thread, and approached to the topic Neutral, making conclution or etc is up to you!
As you noticed this thread and its material consists of Verses from Bible,Verses from Quran and Hadithes. There is No third party Provocative opinion!

hope for your understanding!,

sincerely Mazlum...